₦airaland Forum

Msteeew.

They know what they do/did.
As for me, I am not not afraid because I don't/didn't steal.
What about you?
Jonathan is best ignored because he is bound to become a non entity after may 29th
How much could he and Mama peace have stolen.
$10 billion?
It is the corrupt goons around him that Buhari is going to have to shake down for the location $500 billion earnings.
Half a trillion us dollars vaporised just like that.

Obasanjo should stop giving excuses.
The Corruption of Northern leaders and lack of leadership is responsible.
The northern conservative elites are the most heartless set of people in Nigeria.
Their poverty is the heartless version of the poverty you find all over Nigeria.
The states are responsible for primary and secondary education. The bulk of the SW spending goes towards education and health spending and remains the only place where you find such with many regions piggybacking on the SW social services It is therefore laughable when some people are celebrating the fact that salaries have been fully paid.
It simply tells me that they do not responsibilities in terms of education and health.

Much ado about Nothing.
8 billion Naira for a ceremony!
the money is enough to build a mini gas fired power plant to power all the street lights in a small city.
All that money for 2 hours of nonsense.
Why not just handover in aso rock with something small without all the razzmattaz( inauguration ceremony, inauguration ball, inauguration thanksgiving, inauguration jumat etc

Money for shepke.

before writing, the least you can do is to consider the historical perspective of the the subject matter.
We did not have Subsidy fraud under Obasanjo even though he tried to remove it under pressure from Iweala masters( imf and world).
The idea was to increase the amount of money for developmental purposes.
However, we all know that the problem has never been money or lack. It is the morbidly corrupt nd incompetent leaders and politicians who steal everything in sight.
There was no Subsidy on kerosene or diesel yet they created one.
Waiver which Obasanjo introduced to allow for the importation of telecommunications equipments to hasten the development of GSM was turned into a bazaar for the importation of pots, pans,candles,cutlass.

This man is the worst ever. They do not even bother to hide the corruption. It is "in your face" corruption.

I am not deluding myself at all. It is not pessimistic to say that Jonathan has taken Nigeria beyond the precipice.
It will take a miracle.
Everyone is after easy money. Very few are creative

buhari should simply look at all the ghost companies created after and take back the cheese from the rodents

Send this rubbish to the scrap heap

Through our arrogance, loudness and stupiidy( leadership and Followership), we have developed a stupid reputation.
Even with stupid people, the leadership are mostly to blame.
Else, our stupidity would have been restricted to Nigeria without needing to export it around the world ( because Nigeria would have been a livable place)

Food for thought : the Sikhs have earned themselves a reputation of being peaceful even though they carry knives as part of their religious rites.
Talk of packaging.

woodcook:
Anyone with info on distribution center in each states?

Are you a learner.
Go to your closest market with your money. No be PDP.

woodcook:
Anyone with info on distribution center in each states?

Are you a learner.
Go to your nearest market with your money. No be PDP.

We see hospital in akwa ibom
We see eko atlantic in lagos
We see kwankoso underpass
We see ogun emergence as a manufacturing hub
But Jonathan is sharing stoves after sinking good projects like
Olokola LNG
brass LNG
These two projects could easily have created local hubs for domestic gas production and bottling.
So instead of free useless stoves, people would have been rushing to buy gas cookers.
You cannot buy what you do not have.
VISION AND COMMON SENSE.

Nice.
First project in a long time to really make sense.
Necessities first.

lastpage:
Sorry, l hate it when some people quote a "ten page" paragraph, just to reply a poster, its a waste of bandwidth hence my decision to quote only the part of your post l want to respond to, brilliant post though!

Now, on the 4th Mainland Bridge, l think you are wrong.

IMO, l think it is a project that needs IMMEDIATE COnstruction and Completion:

1.) EKO Atlantic City is not for the poor masses who make up over 95% of the State's population. These 95% over still need somewhere to live, ways to commute to work and back

2.) The Lagos Mainland and the Island/Ikoyi/Lekki are very congested and land-locked hence the only area for "cheap land" expansion is in the hinterlands of Ikorodu, Epe and/or Badagry, e.t.c

3.) Ikorodu and Epe are actually going to be the source of "manpower' and white collar job workers who will power the EAC on a daily basis. It is not likely that someone will commute from Egbeda or Alakuko, to work in the EAC;.....
..... though it is "possible" but it will be at a "comparatively" heavier cost.
The Cheaper and sensibly-likely option is to live as closest as possible, to where you work or at least in a way that you experience less stress and less cost, going to work daily.

4.) With the above in mind, l think depending on only the "revamped" but still very narrow "Lagos-Ikorodu road", for these hoard of workers to commute to the Island/EAC is just not sensible.
I have done that journey a few times and l know its an "extreme waste" of "manpower and resources". Health-wise, its a killer!

5.) I also have looked at the option of Ferry Services along that axis but that is still in its infancy and better left to private investors for now.

Thus, the only "viable option" left, to MAXIMISE AND SUSTAIN the possible benefits of the EAC is to ensure there is a viable, free, rapid and cheap means of commuting between the "source of labor/manpower" (Epe, Ikorodu and environs) AND THE DESTINATION CITY (EAC) .


This is where the 4th Mainland bridge comes in.

6.) It has the power to open-up and enhance the value of these "border areas" at a very minimal cost.

7.) It has the ability to reduce pressure of "slums" forming in-and-around the model city as such folks can live afar but be easily accessible to the Model City.

8.) The Bridge is a very capital intensive project such that no PPP is ready to fund it or can even afford to do so and as such, Projects of this nature are "reserved" for the federal Govt with contribution from the State.
In light of the above, l think TODAY is the right opportunity for Lagosians and the APC to "cash-in" on their past efforts, to make the APC the ruling party at the centre.
If this opportunity is lost, it may take another 50years to come around again.
The Govt in Lagos must quickly push for the building of the 4th mainland Bridge TODAY, TODAY.

(I know "haters" who dont want well for the S/West will try to justify why it is not necessary though we know their real intention and their judgement is beclouded by their hate, so we can just ignore them)

9.) Finally, Constructing and completing the 4th mainland Bridge ASAP, will reduce the pressure, ensuing accidents/deaths and the Traffic gridlock, on the Onipanu-Anthony-Ojota-Ketu-Ikorodu Express road axis.

Peeps will spend less time in the vehicular traffic and hence become more productive, live longer with a balanced lifestyle and the bridge might implement a "very small token" as Toll-Fee (emphasis on very small) so as to recoup some of the cost and make money available for other projects.
As someone who was 'born and bred' in Lagos, l know "whatzup" on this matter of traffic congestion in that axis.

A healthy population is a Productive population!
Its a win-win situation for everyone and the EAC project especially.

These are the reasons why l think the 4th mainland Bridge should be the first and most prioritised project of Lagos State, from the Federal Govt.
Opportunity once lost may never be regained again.

Eko o'ni ba'je!



Lastpage!

Read my stuff properly and digest it.
Lagos does not have unlimited resources. In fact, lagos is one of the poorest states per capita.
Now I will give a little lecture here.
Lagos is constrained by funds.
Fashola has thousands of thing he would like to do.
If I am a member of a murder board to select projects from a portfolio, I will murder that fourth mainland bridge and drop it to the bottom of the pile. The money would be better spent on rail link and instituting a congestion charge ( like the city of London) between the island and the mainland. The objective being reducing the number of private vehicles and thus, the need for a new bridge every 30 years.
Back to the point. I said that the business case is not ripe because the components are not there yet bearing in mind that there are more important things to do with money today. It does not mean it is not feasible but the benefit to cost ratio is low today.

Make u tell your shoes to begin trek back.

mrmetoo1:
Smh!! Again it's not only when you can afford to live there that it's beneficial to you. Tell me what you do and I'll tell you how this project will be beneficial to you. Just because everyone in a nation cannot live in a particular neighborhood doesn't mean that neighborhood shouldn't be created. So you think because the school district in one part of a city is bad, it should stop projects going on in other more affluent parts of the city. Please step out a little bit and see how things work, how wealth is created.

Nigerians love instant gratification. Most pay no taxes but want free stuffs.
They tell you we have free oil.
As if the oil is free.
As if it does not cost the oil producing areas( not states) in terms of pollution,rampant insecurity and health damage.
You say the government should do stuffs. I agree but someone has to pay it.
Most of you spend N200,000 getting the latest iphone, spend N100,000 for private schools, N5 million naira on weddings but pay not one penny in taxes.
Can you imagine what would have happened to schools, road, bridges, playground if all taxable adults only pay just 10% of their undeclared taxable income.
In other countries , people pay
Capital gains
Income tax
Sales tax / VAT
Stamp duty
Inheritance tax
Dividends
Tax on
Taxes on Interest,rents etc
MOT, congestion tax, road tax etc.
Corporation tax
That is why they have all those stuffs.
If you have no skin the game, expect nothing.
This will not make any sense to most but those who live overseas understand what I am talking about.
The average Nigerian in Europe or America only starts earning money for himself in April.
The equivalent of January to March incomes are taxes
In other words, you are the government's biiitchhh for the first 3 months of the year.
The fact is that many do not know their responsibilities as citizen and the leadership most often than not are chosen from this group.
Fashola and tinubu are simply anomalies. It is like lightening striking the same place twice.

ddami:
I understand wot u are saying I think Ogun z also trying 2 come up as well buh whatever region it is,,,it z for d benefit of Nigeria z a whole,we all are craving 4 a Nigeria we will brag about.. I think we are coming up but just at a slower pace oda states need to put in more efforts,electricity and a performing central govt and we will b unstoppable

I do not know what amosun is still waiting for. The Abeokuta central business district is very important to transition ogun from a manufacturing hub into a place with white collar jobs

Ezenwammadu:
lf we listened to GEJ and allowed fuel subsidy to be removed this mess would have nevet happened

That did not seem to have stopped him from manufacturing kerosene Subsidy. 7 billion dollars stolen. Sorry your Jonathan is exactly the problem. People will always take advantage whenever you find incompetence

aresa:
NL is fast becoming comedy central I swear....

Dumbotron
A vice is chosen to complement the principal and to polish off his rough edges.

luvinhubby:
Opulence in the midst squalor...the irony of my homeland.

Nothing opulent about it.
Lagos is simply playing to her strengths.
Lagos has little land for agriculture and few natural resources.
This is where we go back to the saying. Lagos has the largest population in the country but still out performs them all.
For instance, lagos government has more tractors available for farmers than most states.
Benue state, kogi, Niger,taraba,cross river, and Ondo are some of the states that can easily outperform lagos.but most of them are beggar states today.
the NW which is chronically dependent can turn the desert into a sea of green houses if they have a visionary leader and reduce that emphasis on that Arabic thing.
If that is not enough to shame them all....

Legend

Ilu Eeko.
Simply pump in electricity and see the SW rise up.
In order to criticise this project, I had to enter the mind of tinubu and Fashola. At the end of the day, I had to give up on the criticism once I discovered it.
Unlike many here, i asked the question, why is the money not being spent in ikorodu or other rundown neighbourhoods?
Then you realise that in order to fund those neighbourhood regeneration, the money has to come from somewhere.
The state is already maxing out on its capacity to generate revenue

The vision is beyond the comprehension of most people.
This is a direct play for leadership on both the West African sub regional level but also on the continent against south Africa.
This is a play to make lagos the commercial, financial, manufacturing,shipping and air traffic hub of Africa.


If you doubt, look at the project for which funding is being sourced or are already complete

1) lekki airport ( funding being sourced and private sector being discouraged by the attempt by some unscrupulous people to wrestle MMA2 from a private investor) air traffic

2 lekki sea port ( started). shipping

3 lekki free trade zone( completed, tenant already in and vacancies still available ) trade and manufacturing

4 lekki oil and gas free trade zone ( ladol and dangote refinery already there, expect to see more players) . oil and gas, ship building, services etc

5 eko Atlantic banking, retail, insurance, hospitality & tourism, law

6 fourth mainland bridge ( to enhance transportation between the mainland and the islands. I believe that the business case for it is not ripe yet.)

All these projects are inter-linked by a common strategy. To make lagos a world city.
Being done in a different way but this is exactly how many countries develop.
Be it dubai or Singapore.
By doing interlinked projects. One project in a portfolio leading to the necessity(business case) for another project.
Not the rubbish other governors and presidents do. Just build rubbish all over the place without any vision

The 100,000 tree seedlings being bred to line the streets, avenues and boulevards.
Credit : eko atlantic

Ilu Eeko

Lagos incurs debt to build stuffs in much the same way Nigerian abroad incur debt to buy their houses or furniture.
In fact, many use chase credit card to make purchases once in a while even when they have the money just to improve their credit rating.
Unless you want to wait until you have enough money to do so when inflation would have made it more expensive.
For instance, the money which Peter obi claimed to have saved in anambra state in spite infrastructural challenges, is smaller today than it was last year when he was boasting.That is based on the devaluation of the naira alone.
That is before we start talking about the increase in inflation and cost of labour.
So whenever any clown talks about lagos debts, I laugh because the lagos state debt management is as good as anywhere on the planet.

Labour leaders?
When our so called profs are incapable of making an argument.
There was never a Subsidy. The government should simply cut off all the middle men

ken4jj:
Exactly, this is what i have been saying. There is a fundamental problem with the black man. Show me that black dominated nation that can stand shoulder to shoulder with the so called third world countries in europe and asia. Each time i travel and walk in the streets of Europe, i get bitter not because i dont appreciate good things but because i keep wondering how my country Nigeria cannot even give her citizens common basic amenities that are taken for granted even in third world European country like Romania.

Blacks are just too greedy for my liking, tufiakwaa. Now our politicians are all millionaires and billionaires with houses and investments all over the world but their homeland is poo, no shame yet the gallivant around with their ill gotten wealth.They travel abroad like it is VI to lekki yet they cannot replicate half of what they see over there.

most times i wonder how these our so called leaders feel when they are with their counterparts abroad. Now they have announced to us how they will go on vacation abroad after may 29. i ask, how many other government official abroad come to nigeria to buy houses and have vacation? Low self esteem at its peak.

To tell that there is something wrong with the black race, instead of the citizens to fight the government and hold them accountable, they will still be the ones doing the defence of the government by fighting each other instead of they common enemy. I dont know how a battered nigerian youth will be fighting for a politican, is this not a height of stupidity? We deserve all the insult we get as a nation and i wish the Europeans and Americans will bar all Nigerian politicians from stepping into their country. They are very useless to us as citizens.

That exactly is the problem with Nigeria. Most simply travel to developed countries for the easy life. Nigeria has the worst of almost everything

Jonathan's Nigeria that is where a first lady commands the police and the military like house boy and house girl.

Like someone said, Nigeria has run out of money.

I do not know why people are bothered with yale.
Like I said before anyone can give any title as long as she is kept as far away as possible from where she can cause damage.
As much as soludo erred in fraternising with the banks and not regulating them properly, no one has ever disputed the fact that he can do better and do a job.
But Iweala is your typical world bank /IMF agent sent down to do an heist job in her own homeland.
Nothing upstairs apart from the packaging and the list of damaging economic theories given to her by her imperial paymasters.

People like her typically see their countrymen as less than human.

Mogidi:
The money to import the petroleum comes from where?

You can pose that question to the north and south-east.
The SW earns her keep and can adjust quickly in case of a break up
Learn about the sources of foreign exchange.

Not only oil brings in forex
The so called dead cocoa brings in $ 2 billion dollars annually. Money which can be used to buy products.
SW Reparation will covers forex.
Dmoestic manufacturing will cover imports.
VAT and corporate taxes would easily change cover the cost.
That is before we talk oil.
Let the break happen you would know who owns what continental shelf and thus territorial waters.
What many of These guys do not know is that the many of the oil blocks being operated falls within odua states territorial waters.