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analice107:
OgundeleT. You have a brian and I can see how you are using it. Dejideji1 is messing you up Upandan, use your big brain an wriggle yaself out of hi questions. Incoherent Muslim.

this is why i said u no get sense. how does argument means messing, me and deji has not even make any point or conclusion so far but u are there typing gibberish. typical senseless xtian

analice107:
And I asked you when you stopped being a Muslim? O wait!!!. Atheists and Muslims are under the same Influence. The spirit of the Antichrist.

please use this brain now. it is for u and not for ur pastor

Dejideji1:
Bro you are confused, so can't make a clear distinction between the two? Anyway we all know that only one God caused the universe and the things in it and that is the God I'm talking about.

god is a deity whether Yahweh, Zeus, Allah, Ogun or anyone they are all gods. also u and who know one god create a universe? what experiment did u carry out to draw such a conclusion? i am an agnostic atheist bro

Dejideji1:
You seem not to get my style, I'm not one of those Christians that you guys accuse of not reasoning outside the box.

if u are u wont claim there is one god

Dejideji1:
I'm a science student and also have a very curious mind like you guys but as for me
everything that i learn about nature and the universe at large, makes me to appreciate God the more for his greatness and vast superiority.

so u learn that universe was from one deity? clap for urself u are a real curious science student

Dejideji1:
I'm not one of those religious people that are against science or research because science will only make you appreciate God more.

scientific research make me appreciate nature more and not any deity

Dejideji1:
Scientists can't get to the bottom of everything

i concur

Dejideji1:
till the end of time as long as the word "infinity" exists. They can keep on making research and they will keep on being marveled by their discoveries only that they won't
appreciate God that is behind it.

some like you will

Dejideji1:
the mysteries of life are very deep, if you unravel one, another one is waiting for you and it goes on like that infinitely until the end of time.

ur research reveal to u there is end of time or u are told and u believe? abi who told u there is end of time?

Dejideji1:
I watched a documentary recently, A cardiologist said in his 20yrs of experience, he keeps learning new things about the heart every time, that it's the most amazing pump someone could ever imagine. I know it intrigues him but he didn't appreciate the creative mind(God) behind it.

which god? allah or yahweh or zeus

Dejideji1:
Bro where did you get your own information from? because Gregorian calendar is the western calendar and also the Christian calendar according to many sources online. Even Wikipedia. Pls do your research again.
Bro what are you saying? Pls you are the one that is mixing things up here, where did i say Atheism is a religion and that it has anything to do with calendar? Pls highlight that part for me in my previous post.

the way u use the word atheist I mean some atheist look as if their religion group were not comfortable with it because it is of xtian origin, that shows they are against it because of religion? and i said no because u can even be an atheist without been a scientist. any atheist that stand against it can only do that based on his/her research if he/she happen to be a scientist and not in atheist point of view because there is nothing like atheist point of view.

Dejideji1:
I said some Atheists are not comfortale with the calender and I stated the reasons why. I saw a forum online (not Nairaland) where Atheists were arguing over the calendar.
Bro what are you saying and how is it related with what is in my last post? I was only trying to point out the issue of the calendar, I didn't talk about civilization starting with Christianity and other things you are claiming up there.

Pls ensure you read my posts carefully and comprehend before replying me, because i have noticed a lot of incoherence in this your reply.

ok. what do u want to bring out of calendar because u av not really made the points that u said will make ur argument supreme as u av stated earlier

analice107:
What happened? Why are you denying Islam today? Aw, I think this guy is abandoning Islam.

abeg park somewhere. i said am not a Muslim but if u seize to believe that is ur own problem

Dejideji1:
Lolz you got me laughing here Bro. You mean sango, obatala etc? How many people are aware of your gods? I believe only the yoruba people. Even some modern day yorubas don't know about them. And in this modern day of civilization, the people that still worship or believe in them are referred to as Idol worshipers. So pls they do not have a place in this argument. We are talking about God here and not gods. Or Idol worshipers.

all of them are gods, whatever u idolise is ur god or God. whichever they are all the same.

Dejideji1:
You disappointed me greatly here Bro and you failed to decode the message i was trying to pass with that hint. I know other smart guys reading that will easily decode it. Anyway let me help you out.

According to scientists, the age of the universe is put at 13.7 billion years. and we are just in 2016 i know you will want to debate this further like when civilization started, before men started counting etc but that is not where I am going

are u taking me to science or religion? please clarify that so that we wont mix things up

Dejideji1:
The fact is that the current calendar we are using and that is widely accepted is the Gregorian calendar which is also called the Christian calendar. That is the message I encoded in that hint.

NO. gregorian calendar is different from xtian calendar Gregorian is for scientist

Dejideji1:
Some Atheists are not comfortable with this calendar because they feel it's incomplete as we cannot use it to go way back in time. And also because it's of Christian origin.

u are mixing things up. atheist is not a religion group. so it may be some scientist. calendar or no calendar has nothing to do with atheism

Dejideji1:
Alright i will quote you again and post it. I'm typing on phone and its not easy putting all this text together especially when it's very lengthy

sorry bro don't waste ur time by mixing things up here civilisation never started with xtian even some philosopher was charged for heresy just because their claim contradict bible, example is Galileo, in fact church and xtian are against civilisation. west is different from xtian get that right

Dejideji1:
Let me start with why did you assume that value above? that's very unprofessional of you in an argument like this. if you keep on assuming like this we won't arrive at anything meaningful at the end of the day.

Pls let's deal with facts here. Another person can come now and also assume 10, and that will rubbish your earlier assertion, because 1/10 is much more significant than 1/10000

there is nothing wrong if we assume on something, just let people know u are assuming but if u think my assumption is wrong then u can bring out the fact. gods that i know within Yoruba alone is up to 10 so the issue of 10 cant work. u can only invalidate my assumption if u can name up to 10001 gods. but as it still stand now my assumption is not wrong because i can give more than 5000 gods people claimed to exist

Dejideji1:
You said thousands of "gods" i quite agree with that but there is only one "God" note the difference.

Again you keep refuting the idea of a superior argument, why are you rushing to conclude? You have no idea of what I have in mind.

Now what if I tell you about something that the whole world currently depend on/generally accepted that was actually influenced by my religion will you still consider my argument superior?

u can name it.

Dejideji1:
Let me give you an hint to stop you from guessing. How old is the universe and what is our current year?

i dont know and u dont know as well, but if u know present the fact so that we can see

Dejideji1:
Anyway that is not the basis of the argument, i repeat, that is not the basis for my superior argument I have further points to prove.

prove the points so that we can bury everything for once

winner01:
Yeah. But i just wish your scrutiny was a bit intelligible.

did i insult u?
share ur believe and i will scrutinise it... lobatan

Dejideji1:
Bro I'm glad you admit yours is zero. Now where did you get the 10000 from? because the main contenders are no way near that figure.
By the time i finish my analysis you will find out that majority of them are not even main contenders/not even contenders at all and your probability will become 1/2.

Then with the support of a superior argument, you will be able to decide for your self on who the odds favour between the two major contenders that will be left.

it seems u don't get me? all i mean is that there are thousands of god human being claimed to exist but u choose one out of it, but i just assume they are 10000.
sorry there is nothing like superior argument in religion u only choose the one ur parent give u or u take from the society, the same way u think ur argument is superior is the same way others think theirs is superior, the same way u look others who dont profess ur religion with pity because u believe av presented a valid point is the same way they also look u with pity because they also think they are on the right path while u are wrong

winner01:
This is a religion section where religious people are meant to share their beliefs among themselves.

You cant take the heat, then leave the kitchen.

did i ask u to stop sharing ur believe? no. but i will always scrutinise ur claims.

Dejideji1:
Bro we are not almost the same, his odds of being right are far far higher than yours. The odds doesn’t favour you at all in this matter, because you are sitting on the fence in this matter.

From what you wrote up there, i can deduce that out of the thousands of gods you claim, u believe that one must be the right one.

bros the probability of mine is zero while the probability of urs is 1/10000 or whatever, do the maths it is almost zero so we almost the same. btw i never believe anyone exist

Dejideji1:
So you see the whole thing as a game of risk, but even as it is, logically do you know that your risk is more higher?

Now out of the thousands of gods and religious practices that you claim, do you know that he has a superior argument? question me on this and i will give you more details.

superior argument? lols. bros nothing like that, u are just a product of indoctrination and nothing more.

4everGod1:
So your acceptance of Islam is simply a gamble all along like you guys do with bet9ja and all that... Has muhammad been reduced to a gamble? Amazing!

Well as for me my choice is a certainty JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

When you graduate from gambling with your beloved islam to being sure about it you can come and preach to me.

sir, please reread my post again i never said am a Muslim, i am not and i will never for once be. but whether muslim or xtian or Buddhist or whichever, u people only choose one out of many so it is a gamble the same way u think Jesus is the way is the same way others of other religion think

winner01:
You know the right one bro, you talk about Him daily.

you people are the reason we talked about it daily now. if u people can for once stop rubbing absurdity on our face here. at least we have other gods that people never mention here on nairaland

KingEbukasBlog:
OgundeleT:
u people don't normally know how u sound whenever you are quoting that ur babble to atheist. bro stop quoting a thrash to prove inexistence

OgundeleT:
that is just to tell u it cant stand as evidence. or can u take a book full of discrepancies and errors as evidence?

A while ago , you just ridiculed the acts of posting bible verses to an atheist and when proven the response was foolish , the latter was your reaction ?


Hehehe ...

yes

winner01:
I think he just replied you.

Maybe i'm not.

Anything for you bro.



Amen. And May the good Lord be with you now and forever. I was also at a time irreligious. But i came to terms with the truth. I'm more than convinced that God is God...And He has truly been good to me.

we are almost the same. i choose non out of thousands gods claimed to exist but u just choose one. do the maths we are almost same and if u happen to choose the wrong one we are all heading to hell fire

KingEbukasBlog:
But when atheists want to point out supposed discrepancies and depravities condoned in the bible , they quickly post bible verses .

that is just to tell u it cant stand as evidence. or can u take a book full of discrepancies and errors as evidence?

KingEbukasBlog:
I hope you are smart enough to make a rational conclusion from this

Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

u people don't normally know how u sound whenever you are quoting that ur babble to atheist. bro stop quoting a thrash to prove inexistence. Satan is just a claim like ur god, Satan is just an excuse to ur god incompetence

winner01:
Welcome home!!! I praise God for your life my brother. Which church do you attend my brother, which part of Nigeria do you stay, we can discuss on email. God bless you.
Now I also pray and hope that Loj Blackjewelry Sirwere RobinHez FrancisTony donnffd Antiparticle Krystalzkris freecocoa OgundeleT TheDauraMallam, thehomer K9blunt ( f ), joywendy( f), herald9 , MarieSucre reallest PAGAN9JA krattoss hahn Queed, dabosuker Johnydon22 realtem sorextee Dekatron djdoxxx kolajamesjnr Liekiller SIRANDREWS , seun plaetton , menesheh wiegraf , finofaya Redlyn , Longstride, Rainess rinrin23 tangled Misogynist2014 Pr0ton , davien teempakguy dorox Joseph1013 cloudgoddess sweetcocoa dalaman hahn menehsheh frank317 plaetton ifeness realmindz lilbrown007 et al. will follow.

continue praying, but please had dry fast join

KingEbukasBlog:
Well , Im just back from a 3-week-ban .. so you know

lols
na me pray make god let dem ban u and now that u are back u are still crossing ur lane

KingEbukasBlog:
Taa sharap

ok sir.. but u know ur god will be useless without Satan now..

STPEACE10:
but sir do atheist believe that Satan exist? I mean do you believe that devil is in existence??

Satan don't exist just like god don't. both are just a figment of human imagination

4everGod1:
Mr Loopholes....please itemise the loopholes in my stories. Abeg help us.

if i should go by how u asked questions on others experience i can as well ask u many questions on ur post which u may answer but i may still claim am not satisfy with the answer u may provide and the fact that i don't believe ur story doesn't make it false or true, it is just my own choice to choose to disbelieve it. let's understand that calamity or good can befall anybody irrespective of one's religion so stop thinking your god is treating u special. the richest man in Africa is a Muslim and the richest man on earth is an atheist. u just believe what has happened to you is of ur god doing because u are a christian, non christian also experience what u tag as miracle and they also give it the name they like, be it miracle or magic whichever name u tag it depend on what u believe

KingEbukasBlog:
[size=16pt]1. There is no proof the story is true .

2. There are fake pastors who say lots of things to finagle cash from people . Pick that brain up wherever you left it [/size]

but u believe in op story despite the loopholes there? that is why u people can believe in ur religion book and call other's thrash. that is hypocrisy bro

idealtailor:
[color=#770077][/color] Edo state is divided into 3 senetorial district. (1) Edo North- 75% APC, 25% PDP. Adams Oshiomole is from here. (2) Edo Central- 40% APC, 60% PDP. (3) Edo South 54% APC, 46% PDP. Both governorship aspirants are from here. With an incumbent APC governor and an APC controlled FG, sincerely who do you think will emerge victorious come November? #EdoDecides2016

pdp cant win edo central. 2015 presidential election was rigged by pdp and that was the reason the margin between the winner and runner up was lower than the vote cancelled. i dont like arguing anyhow but let's wait till the election day

though iyamu will try compare to airvabere, he will secure more votes than him but he cant still win

4everGod1:
So to you the universe is disordered and probablistic and this makes its occurrence random right?

Then kindly answer these questions to further buttress your random theory


Question: if I put 10000 Atheists in a room andi ask them to tell me the Origin of the wind and where its going to..would they be able to?

Question: Do you know where you are going when you die?

Question: How did the planets form when the Big Bang explosion all of a sudden happened? After all, you don’t see round objects form when something blows up.

Question : if evolution is real, how can it explain gravity, angular momentum, human emotions, and why we worship God?

Question:Why do we not see half trees and half carrots, fronkeys, and crocoducks if evolution is real?

Question:Why do we not see black people come from white people?

Let me even cut it short.

What explains the fine tuning of the universe?
Why is the universe rational?
Where did the genetic code come from?
How is independent thought possible in a world ruled by chance and necessity?
How do we account for self-awareness?
How is free will possible in a material universe?


I decided to meet you on your own turf since you are n Atheist to ask you these questions based on your belief.

Make me an Atheist believer by answering just one of those questions.

u always get it wrong on atheist, atheism is not a religion, it has no doctrine or believe system. if u ask some atheist the questions u asked above may be they can give u the answer if they know but if u ask somebody like me i will tell u i don't know rather than filling a gap of ignorance, but if u can give me a satisfactory answer i can agree. atheism has nothing to do with evolution of big bang, they are all for scientist

felixomor:
"Unverified" yet best selling books. over 5 billion people who believe, and still counting must be less intelligent.
Wow, there are geniuses here.

how does that prove it was verified? beside, what is world population that 5billion will believe in your babble. some Christians can lie

KingEbukasBlog:
Blame Catholicism Satanism for the deaths and not Christianity . Atheism has killed over 250 million in the past century . Like winner01 said sometime , if terrorist groups keep killing at this rate , in the next 50 years it wont even be close to the despicable acts carried out by atheists .

Gosh you guys are wicked ! Dangerous ! evil !

Tufiakwa !

u just keep on regurgitating rubbish, what do u mean by atheism? go and check ur dictionary and know the meaning a?then try to get a better English text book so that u can know how to make use of the word "atheism". whether catholicism or Pentecostalism all i know is that religion has killed more human than any other thing

KingEbukasBlog:
You can't be an atheist and be rational - it is impossible to be both . Atheists are worse than m0rons .

the irrationality in u and ur likes is to believe god has pre planned everything and still watch before crossing the road. i know u people only open this thread to attack and that will never changed anything. atheist is not a religion group, it has no system of believe, so nothing an atheist can do that will imply it was done because he was an atheist. if anybody is bad, he/she is bad and not because he's an atheist and if he/she is good it is not because of atheism. atheist is one man show and the reason why we have some atheist group is not to share any doctrine but to fight against people like you who will want to force the portion of your unverified book on others.

KingEbukasBlog:
Dont be deceived bro . The atheists garnished your post with likes because you do not support the intents of the OP or purpose for the thread .
Atheists associate religion with murder , foolishness , irrationality , stupidity even depravities . Some even stated that atheists are good people - you are good simply because you don't believe in God .

This thread is to disprove those ludicrous accusations , mendacious claims and delineate atheism what it is !

u too dey lie. nobody ever claimed atheist are good people and if anyone has ever made such a claim post it and let's see. though i agree on murder and irrationality and if you are a good student of history you wont argue that. religion has killed more human than any other thing.

winner01:
I dey your back my brother.
Johnydon22 also thinks religion is a mental illness. I'm not sure his followers think differently.

Loj Blackjewelry Sirwere RobinHez FrancisTony donnffd Antiparticle
Krystalzkris freecocoa OgundeleT TheDauraMallam, thehomer K9blunt ( f ), joywendy( f),
herald9 , MarieSucre reallest PAGAN9JA krattoss hahn Queed, dabosuker
realtem sorextee Dekatron djdoxxx kolajamesjnr Liekiller SIRANDREWS ,
plaetton , menesheh wiegraf , finofaya Redlyn , Longstride, Rainess rinrin23
tangled Misogynist2014 Pr0ton , davien teempakguy dorox Joseph1013

that is it, though not all atheist are rational but u cant be religious and be rational.

freegaza:
Very slim chance...Because of preparation for Sallah, banks will close by 2:00pm where I am...The chances of getting alert before 2pm is very slim

it is CBN that will pay directly and not ur bank and that is why we are not taxed, so they can pay at anytime of the day. i received feb allawee around 12am

OjukwuWarBird:
God forbid.

Yorubas betrayed the unity of the South for a plate of Vice President.

We the people of SE/SS say no to any unification with the Yoruba people.

who betrayed who? there will be betrayer if there had been any agreement