₦airaland Forum

HydraFeeds:
you’re contradicting yourself by saying he related with elites during his campaigns but getting worried how he will relate with international individuals.intentionally neglecting that Time just considered him number 19 most influential man in the world .

Tinubu of 5 years ago is not different from Tinubu of now ,old wine taste sweeter ,recently ,he beat the cabals ,beat traitors,beat fuel and cash scarcity,beat Obidient mob blue black and all opposition joined to become the president elect . I think he’s better than 5years ago . In 2014 or so ,PDP media said he was sick and down with stroke but we all know that that same Tinubu beat them with kungfu kick during the 2015 election .

In his campaign,he spoke about loan for students ,FDI ,subsidy removal ,tech and other Industrial Revolution projects ,he also spoke about his achievements as a governor and these are better than someone campaigning based on ethnicity and religion or on invisible statistics from Egypt . Every sensible people knows that Lagos economic achievements can be replicated in the federal level .

I have mentioned how he engaged in several media outings,Tinubu is not your regular politician that wail on national tv instead of working on the field .

Related, more like he visited, not that he discussed anything media worthy.

Few times he tried to address the public, he was speaking gibberish.

The human body is not a wine. That's a poor analogy. The older you get, the weaker you become.

HydraFeeds:
which electoral umpire was bought ? Do you have any evidence or deductive reasoning for that claim ?

Engagements with press is only important to discuss your achievements,projections and for interactions to modify your projections but not to appear just because of need for attention.

Tinubu held various town hall meetings,stakeholders meeting and had engagements with neutral media like BBC and NESG . He floored Obi in the latter .

Tinubu engaged with foreign leaders that birthed PPP projects like Lekki deep sea port and Eko Atlantic . He appeared in Chatham house several years ago even before Obi opened eyes to international media .

Tinubu of 5years ago is not the same Tinubu of today. Can you tell me one thing Tinubu said or did during the campaigns that makes you think he deserves a single vote from ordinary Nigerians?? Tinubu related more with elites during his campaign and his campaign team shielded him as much as they can from the eyes of the masses.

You are only trying to downplay the importance of communication skills for any leader because you know your Tinubu is handicap in that region. I don't know how you guys intend to fool an entire nation with that.

FreeStuffsNG:
It is not funny. What is funny today is watching same Edo and PANDEF today begging the same Asiwaju you mock to support your quest for Senate Presidency. What is funny today is that the Yoruba of today no longer care about Edo and can get the Presidency without you guys minority alliance.

The Yoruba you think was opposing Asiwaju just ethnic baited you and in private, he or she is happy that the Yoruba triumphed. We do not opppse you for your democratic choice, it is the hate, mockery, criminal defamation and bigotry against Asiwaju that we found objectionable. Asiwaju Tinubu was not respinsible for the break down of family values in Edo such that boys who were being stopped from yahoo plus and girls stopped from going to Italy by Buhari now hate the Yoruba.

Like I stated, we defeated you all. We do not have time to hate anyone. Our next task is cut out for us; support Asiwaju to succeed phenomenally as a patriotic Nigerian President of Yoruba extraction.

If I were you, I will be more bothered about knowing if anyone from your place can ever be the President of Nigeria. That is the answer you need and except you see far you will envy the Yoruba who keep winning strategically. Do not hate Yoruba, learn from the Yoruba.

Sorry, I don't do tribal stuffs. I assess people based on my conscience and make my choice. I don't really care who becomes senate president.

If we can't get it right at the top, everything else would flop. Just like in this Buhari regime. A Nigeria that works for all, is what I want.

HydraFeeds:
1) Tinubu is from the south .

2) The east was chasing Biafra and are not really committed to the Nigeria project . There were rallies for Biafra nation after the loss of their son and one of them just released their map and government in exile portfolios.

3) Engagements with press does not determine fitness to lead ,especially when the engagements is more of ethnoreligious bigotry. Winning the heart of certain masses does not means winning the heart of majority of the masses (majority carry the votes) . Also engagement/talking with people does not mean you’re making sense ,imagine when you can’t answer questions on green energy ,KPI,Oil theft prevention,fight against corruption. Etc

4) a sinner is a sinner ,wether he stole 1 Naira or 1million Naira . Not to talk of multiple allegations against him

5) what’s open about saying you saved money but there’s no evidence for it and your successor disputed it ? What about cronyism like awarding state contracts to family and friends? What about tax evasion and money laundering to tax haven countries?

6) what indices are you talking about ? Is it the ones that can’t be felt by common man or a man with hero beer as greatest achievement and leaving the state as erosion capital of the world or the investment made becoming next to nothing ?

On the contrary, engagements with press determines mental fitness to lead. As the number citizen of your Nation, how would you communicate with other leaders of the world, how would you negotiate, strike deals that would be beneficial to your people? How would you mediate between warring parties or win the heart of agitators? Ability to communicate is a non negotiable skills for any leader.

If Tinubu was so confident of winning the majority votes, why did he have to buy the electoral umpire??

FreeStuffsNG:
You are not Yoruba so just quit Yoruba affairs to wean yourself of the hate you have for Yoruba.

If Asiwaju Tinubu has been contesting and winning election in Yorubaland since 1992 till date and you saw or pretend not to see how his fellow Yoruba stepped down for him at APC presidential primaries ,except one of his political sons PYO, and how all the Traditional rulers in Yoruba endorsed him and engaged with Northern Emirs then you are dabbling into what you do not know beyond the hate you have for the Yoruba.

If the clear victory map does not convince you , go get an interpreter to interprete what Asiwaju said to the Yoruba race in Abeokuta to declare in Yoruba that emi lokan, watch the open declaration the late Alaafin made and left as an instruction to us Yoruba to stand by Asiwaju Tinubu.

Quit hating Yoruba, we are not responsible for failure of your political leaders.

Anywhere you mention hate for Yorubas, it always sound funny to me. There are lots Yorubas that do not support Tinubu. Does that mean they hate their tribe?

Maybe in the next election, my preferred candidate would be a Yoruba man. As for Tinubu, it is a NO, NO for me.

TakeNigeriaBack:
Of course you're Edo. When it comes to HATRED for Yoruba people, Ibo carry gold, Edo carry silver. Both of u na go collect wotorwotor. We don scope u na finish. Gone are the days of not knowing. Now, we know. God go punish both of una. But before then we go do our own. U na go collect wotorwotor.

I am a 3rd generation lagosian. My Dad, all my uncles and aunties speak Yoruba. I have a family house in Orile. My uncles married Yoruba women.

In secondary school, I had Yorubas and Igbos as friends, that I am still in touch with till today. So, why should I hate Yorubas.

All this hatred for Yorubas you guys are always blabbing about is just a social media thing. Politicians are only taking advantage of it.

FreeStuffsNG:
I am sure you did not look at that victory map again so I will post it again.

I will suggest that you look at the region of Yorubaland from the atlantic to the North central states of Kwara and Kogi, where apart form Lagos where most Yoruba failed to come out on election day to vote thereby giving a little above 6k votes difference against Asiwaju and Osun where the sitting Gov had already been sacked by the tribunal and needed to work extra hard for Alhaji Atiku, please how else and louder do you want the Yoruba to tell you that Asiwaju Tinubu is our most preferred choice.

Did you also forget the leaked audio where one of his opponent was confessing to Bishop Oyedepo that Yorubaland all the way to Kwara, Kogi and even Niger do not know him or accept him? If Mr Obi was begging frantically for Yoruba votes, who do you think was the Yoruba choice that made him not to be acceptable to the Yoruba?

You must really have nothing but hate for the Yoruba if you are suggesting that our choice is not our choice. This is the hate you are struggling to come to terms with. As you can see, Yoruba does not care about Edo unlike before so if we are advocating that Senate Presidency goes to North Central today, it is because we really do not care whether you stop hating or not. Yoruba have called you out and we know those standing with us.
Like Oonirisa once declared, if you hate Yoruba and do not want to have anything to do with Yoruba, we no send. We do not have time to hate, hating those who hate you is like casting your pearls before swines.

We revenged by succeeding massively. Inspite of your hate, we stood by Asiwaju and protected him against his haters and today he is the President-Elect. We are grateful to God and all our political allies. We defeated you haters. All of you who hate Asiwaju because he is Yoruba and he is our choice among several of our Yoruba leaders.

If Yorubas were to make a choice for president of Yoruba Nation between Tinubu, Osinbajo, Fashola, Makinde, Afebabalola, Fela Durotoye, you are telling me, you guys would pick Tinubu

TakeNigeriaBack:
If you're not Ibo what's your tribe? Are you ashamed of your useless tribe?

If you like accuse Tinubu of having gonorhhea and syphillis all over his body. On the 29th of May, he will be sworn in as President of the ENTIRE Nigeria. If you don't like it, you can hug transformer, dive inside Lagos lagoon or japa to Indonesia. Na you sabi.

Proudly (Oviedo) Edo.

But why is your username sounding contradictory, or are you confuse with you stand.

HydraFeeds:
tell me ,who’s more fit to rule than Tinubu among the contestants ?

Base on these indices - Peter Obi.
1) For the sake of equity, it is the turn of the south.
2) For the sake of inclusiveness, it is the turn of the east.
3) For winning the heart of the masses through debates and engagements with the press.
4) For being the one with the least character flaws
5) For openness and transparency.
6) For his above average performance in development indices as governor.

FreeStuffsNG:
You must really think the Yoruba are naive by placing those who hate Asiwaju Tinubu because he is Yoruba in their right place.
You all hate him because he is Yoruba and his religion as a Muslim. Fortunately for Asiwaju Tinubu, most of the voters in Yorubaland, core North and North central gave him the victory.

Okonkwo is not different from Chimamanda, Kenneth Okonkwo, Chief Ezeife etc and if they had not added lies, mockery, criminal defamation and bigotry to their hate for Asiwaju because he is Yoruba, nobody will even bother.

All of them will be tried and prosecuted one after the other. Mr Bayo Onanuga has promised each of you cyberbullies, slanderers and criminal defamers of Asiwaju

Just like many other Nigerians, we do not hate Tinubu. We simply do not see him fit enough to lead this country at this time when there are better candidates out there. Yes, we might mock him, make caricature of him, emphasize his flaws. It is all in a bid to demarket him so that better candidates can stand a chance.

If it was Yoruba Nation alone, I don't think you guys would consider him fit to be the president of a Yorubas Nation. So, why do this to Nigeria?? Besides I am Edo and not Igbo.

omohayek:
There are at least 2 problems I can see with what you say, namely

(1) without sharing a verbatim copy of what you actually wrote, it's impossible for the rest of us to judge whether something in the manner of your response violated the forum's rules,

(2) how can you know for sure the identity of whoever banned you? Last I checked, Nairaland doesn't divulge that information.

For what it's worth, I too was banned for several days not long ago, for pointing out to a troll slandering Wole Soyinka that the man had spent nearly 2 years in solitary confinement on behalf of people whose descendants now insult him at every opportunity. My comment was deleted, but the troll's tribalistic insults were left to stand. From the context it seems fairly clear what the likely background of that flagrantly biased moderator was, but I didn't see any info that would have allowed me to blame anyone in particular for certain.

The point I'm getting at with the above is that you can't simply jump to the conclusion that Mynd44 (or anyone else in particular) is to blame anytime you experience what you consider a bad moderation call. What I've seen you and many others on here engage in is what's known as brigading - acting in concert to focus all your discontent on Mynd44 in particular in the hope your campaign will push Seun to get rid of him regardless of the full facts (which you can't possibly have).

Given how badly so many "Obidients" react whenever someone says something they don't like - even when the person has openly campaigned and voted for Peter Obi - I find it hard to believe that any moderator would seem "unbiased" to you unless s/he was allowing you all to run riot while suppressing any critical voices. All of the irrelevant accusations on this very thread certainly feed into that well-justified suspicion.

I was careful with my choice of words. I didn't say Mydn44 was the one that banned me.

TakeNigeriaBack:
Your hatred for Tinubu is just a proxy for your deep seated hatred for Yoruba people. Yorubas don ALREADY scope u na well well. U na go collect wella. Just dey watch

I am not Igbo.

Money aside, does Tinubu look sound enough to lead a family meeting??

TakeNigeriaBack:
Okonkwo?! I'm not surprised. Ibos and deep hatred for Yoruba people like benson and hedges.

You guys are just having imaginary enemies. Nobody hates Yorubas. Tinubu is simply not fit to rule this country.

If there was something like Yoruba Nation, Yorubas would not pick a Tinubu as their leader. Someone that doesn't look sound enough to lead a family meeting.

Because Tinubu is your tribes man, you don't care if he destroys Nigerian, as long as the president is your tribes man.

omohayek:
How exactly has he suppressed, deleted or banned dissenting opinion here? How does his merely stating facts constitute any of those things? This may shock you, but someone saying something you don't want to hear doesn't mean they are in any way "suppressing" you.

I got banned by the mod for replying a Tinubu supporter, saying obidients owns the internet, obidients owns the street, while Batist owns the rig.

If this is not suppression, tell me what is? People have experience of what they are talking about.

In the physical realm, flies are attracted to faeces. It is likely someone has poured faeces on you spiritually.

You need to seek deliverance.

Christistruth03:
Apart from Labour party being Anti Muslim according to Peter Obi who thought he was fighting a Religious War
Obidients went Full Tribal long ago

They have been badly infiltrated by Ipob Terrorists


Tinubu Won the Elections

Tinubu and APC Produced 22 Governors

Peter Obi Couldn't even Produce only 2 Governors

Labor Party is not anti Muslim. Peter Obi loves the Muslims as well, this he proved as governor when he feasted with the Muslims during Ramadan. He only applied Pareto's principle during campaigns, which states "use 80% of your efforts where you would likely get 80% reward".

Peter Obi has cult followership in every tribes in Nigeria. Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Jos, Portharcourt, Kaduna, Benue, Nassarawa, just to mention a few. Tinubu's cult followership are only from the Yoruba race.

The North only follow their elites, they don't follow Tinubu, neither do they believe in him.

Christistruth03:
That was the attitude that lost Elections

Obi did not insult people or called anyone names. Obi campaigned properly, made his promises and related with ordinary Nigerians which they chose to give him their mandate.

Now, tell me one thing Tinubu said or did during the campaigns that makes you think he deserves a single vote from ordinary Nigerians?

Tinubu only related with the elites during campaigns and not with ordinary Nigerians.

Oba Elegushi = 1vote
Danfo driver = 1vote

All the elites put together how many votes would they give you

Tinubu had no plans of winning the elections by getting majority votes. That was why he confidently avoided debates and press throughout his campaigns. When his political opponents were strategizing how to win the peoples heart, he was busy strategizing how to steal the peoples mandate.

This form of politics is what sensible young Nigerians that identify themselves as obidients wants to put an end to.

Politicians should learn to win the heart of electorates.

Christistruth03:
You lost Elections

It is not the end of the World

Stop hating,deceiving and insulting People and Try again in 2027

You cannot force People you hate and call names everyday to vote for you

It was those who you hated and called Cows everyday for 8 years that made you loose the Elections

You did not win in any of their States ,

They were not Stupid

Offpoint

Ireportlive:
Tinubu won a primary defeating Ameachi and others

Tinubu remains the only marketable product to Muslim and Christian, North and South

We are all aware how Tinubu bought that primaries, using his criminal style of sharing dollars.

Mean while good men like Osinbajo who does not have criminal idealogies like Tinubu allowed only his popularity speak for him.

How would our Nation progress, if the highest seat of power can be bought?? This is what Obi supporters are against. However, I know you and every Tinubu's supporter would not understand.

Happy Slaves.

It is difficult to control a crowd of slaves in a slave farm but the slave master knows what to do. He targets a few slaves and makes them happy, at least, relatively happier than their counterparts. Make a few slaves happy and they will be loyal to you. They will be happy to defend you with their lives. They will go any length to do so.

Yes! They will defend you at the expense of their own. They will forget that they are slaves too. They will fail to see that they are also having the short end of the stick. They will bring you tales about other slaves. They will snitch on them. They are your loyal foot soldiers and they will help you foil any attempts by other slaves to be free.

Friends, if you are conversant with aspects of the defunct transatlantic and trans-saharan slave trades of yore, you will recall there were such nomenclatures as the "house negro" and the "field negro". The house negro lived in the house, same house with the master, may be in the attic or the basement. Unlike the field negro, he didn't work on the plantation. Neither was he exposed to the full extent of the harsh realities of a slave.

The House negro ate the left over food on his master's table. While his counterpart in the field walked barefoot, the house negro wore his master's used and abandoned clothes and shoes 👟. He became completely assimilated into his master. He saw himself as an extension of him. However, this was only in his head. He was still a slave and had no real path to freedom or an inheritance in the house of his master. His master knew this but the house negro didn't know it.

Whenever the master bought a horse 🐎, the house negro would say "we have a horse". If the master was sick, he'd say "we are sick'. Whenever the master said "it is my turn", the house negro would say "it is our turn'. Hence, he totally forgot his own reality. He worked at cross-purposes with other slaves who were yearning for freedom. He foiled their attempts to be free. Essentially, the house negro forgot he was still a slave simply because of the relative comfort and privileges that could easily be taken away from him.

Friends, from the foregoing, my message ought to be clear. Happy slaves are the greatest enemies of true freedom. They labour to maintain the status quo. As long as they are able to "eat" from it, no matter how bad a system is, they are good. There is nothing as heavenly as having a good system. A bad system beats good people. It makes everyone a victim in the long run.

Interestingly, the happy slaves among us are few but they are sufficiently animated or motivated by the crumbs that fall on their laps from their master's table. Please don't allow any happy slave to gaslight or silence you. Keep making your demands known until we have a better society that works for all and not for a few leaders who have gone rogue.

It is a new day!

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NovusHomo:
Are you a drug baron? You seem to know a lot about the trade.

I am not. If you have watched movies like Power produced by 50cents, you would have lots of ideas about their module's operandi.

As an Obidient, I believe in honesty and truth. So, I believe Tinubu to an extent.

Tinubu said he wasn't involved in drug dealing.
However, I doubt he is not aware where the money came from. Which make him equally culpable. Or, how did he come about having 1.8million dollars in his bank account. What was his job, what was his businesses?

My guess is, Tinubu must have been on top of the food chain for initial suspects in the drug case not have mentioned his name. You know, drug dealers go to any length to eliminate snitches. The US government must have also been waiting for more evidence and witnesses to nail him, which they obviously didn't get.

In this election petition tribunal, Tinubu might as well get off the hook like in previous court cases.

Jaapu:
Odikwa you are a very stupid person.

I am a bit curious, what did I say that warrants the insult.

You only insulted without pointing out your grievance.

Your actions seems like the product of a wasted sperm.

Wike is the one joking.

Dino as any one else is qualified to contest the governorship election of Kogi state. He is a one time senator, he has also been in the house of assembly.

Though I am not a fan of Dino, but I see him doing better than Kogi state current governor.

notobiafrababe:
Obidient will avoid this thread like plague.

If the election is reconducted today, Obi will lose scandalously in all the Northern states and South West. Infact he won't get up to 4 million votes. That tape really exposed the Pandora miscreant. Yes daddy

Obidient ipob mob will disagree with me

During campaigns, what did Tinubu say or do that make you think he deserves a single vote from ordinary Nigerians. What promise did Tinubu make during campaigns

In all major cities Tinubu was rejected.

The only thing that makes APC and Tinubu's supporters brag about winning elections, is their ability to rig. Nothing else.

Note this, before any rerun would be sanctioned, the INEC chairman would first have to be replaced and voters intimidation and suppression brought to a bearest minimum. Let me now see how Tinubu would win.

Ordinarily, I thought APC would be more eager to go to court to defend their victory.

What's the cause of the unnecessary delay? Or is the CJN not giving them enough assurance?

IniAkpanMorgan:
How can Peter Obi think that he can win Nigeria's Presidential election because he is cheered about everywhere he goes? To win Nigeria's Presidential election, Peter Obi needs to move from photoshoots with people he attempts to impress, like giving up his seat in a plane for an impatient lady, and his involvement of a child in his political campaigns, to building national bridges. He is a deplorable local champion, ethnically and religiously. He has caused the discrediting of vagabond-preachers who are more politicians than they hear from God.

Even if Nigeria's Presidency is a beauty pageant, Peter Obi would not be beautiful enough to win it. He lies and he is resistant of, and to process. He is inciteful and unreasonable. An hypocrite who put a sore-knife through Nigeria's unity and religious tolerance.


Ini Akpan Morgan writes from Abuja-Nigeria

Democracy is all about winning the heart of the masses and not about building criminal structures, which Obi understands perfectly well. At least that is what the westernals who introduced us to democracy taught us.

How can a man like Tinubu, who refused to face the press, participate in debates, share his ideas with the masses get votes. What exactly did Tinubu do during the campaign that make you think he deserves a single vote from Nigerians apart from sharing stolen money??

African leaders have corrupted democracy for years and that has to changed. What PDAPC is doing right now is resisting the change. With a new generation of educated and enlightened African people, that change would happen sooner than the criminal APC wants.

Jack500:
Most hated individual with over 8million votes, just listen to yourself.

The only way Tinubu/APC would have lose the election is if Atiku and Peter obi have worked together, I don't expect your brain to understand that Sha.

No be only dwindled in the north, na dudu, if election hold again today, Tinubu would still beat obi blue black in the north and southwest.

8million indeed. Votes he stole in connivance with FraudNEC chairman Mr Yakubu.

Lai Mohammed has finally woken up. He does not want FFK and Keyamo to take his place now they are lobbying for positions in Tinubu's cabinet.

News flash! Obidients can't wait to see Obi-Datti arrested. Please they should hurry up.

Jack500:
You are just fooling yourself,it is only a mad man that think divided opposition can win over a ruling party, all of you go dey alright last last.

You are the one fooling yourself thinking an unpopular candidate like Tinubu would have won the election.

Tinubu is the most hated individual in Nigeria right now. Before the elections 70% Nigerians don't consider him as a option how much more voting for him. After the election, his popularity has dwindled significantly up North.