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Jokerman:
According to Barca and Pessi fans, Ronaldo flopped at Juve because he didn't win UCL, so I'm waiting for Pessi at PSG

You said Beckham performed despite scoring 13goals in more than 100 appearances…..same you labeled Messi a flop despite his 22 goals and 26 assists in 50 appearances.

We no be hypocrites like you and your fellow penaldians….. we go use the same yardstick judge both players cos they were signed to win UCL for their respective clubs.

Jokerman:
Apart from Owen in the EPL list, the rest are average.

You just confirm Wetin I dey think since….. you no sabi ball

Hope you know if Pessi no win UCL, he will be considered a flop at PSG?

Have you finally accepted Ronaldo flopped at Juventus?

Jokerman:
Apart from Owen in the EPL list, the rest are average.

Hope you know if Pessi no win UCL, he will be considered a flop at PSG?

Hazard and Coutinho average too?

Song was one of the best dm at the time

Unless you know no Hleb…… you think Barcelona would have signed him if he was average?

Jokerman:
I dey pay back una coin...

How far uefalona scores

which coin again?

I no be Barcelona fan ooh but Shebi una say Barcelona na one of the favourite for UCL this year cos Lewandoski dey do Wetin Messi been dey run that year.

2 seasons and counting, Barcelona no fit cross group stage without Messi

Jokerman:
Players that from EPL that performed in Laliga

Ronaldo
Bale
Beckham
Nistelrooy
Forlan
Modric
Calvarho

Beckham with 13goals in more than 100 appearances performed and you get mind call Messi flop for scoring 11goals in 30 appearances. You smoke kush?

EPL players that flopped

Coutinho
Hazard
Song
Hleb
Owen
Martial
Januzai

Players that performed in EPL from La liga
Kun Aguero
David Silva
Alexis Sanchez
Xabi Alonso
Santi Cazorla
Cesc Fabregas
Mesut Ozil and many others

GeneralPula:
All these Barca fan self..

La Liga has always been a three-horse race as compared to the EPL, where no one could predict what might happen.

For the past few years, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manu have all won champions league, unlike laliga wey be way nah just Barca / Madrid..

Chelsea for example has always defeated laliga, SerieA, Bundesliga teams in champions league, Including Barca, though our head stats is Draw. We even defeated you guys with 10 against 11 when Barca was still Barca with all their players on pitch..

Any match involving Epl teams in Euro cups is always tough. Y’all knows that but can’t just admit the fact!

You wan dey compare them set of defenders that have played in Epl to Laliga? Even serieA used to be a very tough league than La-Liga..

EPL is predictable. In recent times, Man City have been the red hot favourite to win the league every season. By your logic, we can as well say French league is stronger cos Lille, Montpellier, PSG, Lyon and Bordeaux have all been champions in the last 12-15years.

Should we now say French league is stronger than EPL cos as far as I can remember Lyon knocked Man City out of UCL. Monaco did same to Man City out. PSG flogged Chelsea home and away.

Mention one la liga team top team chelsea have eliminated from UCL that have not done same to them.

E never tey Bayern knack chelsea 7-2 ooh

Abeg mention the defenders wey don play for EPL and tell me which of them better pass Alves, Ramos, Carlos, Marcelo, Puyol…..no forget to include their achievements of your overrated EPL defenders.

Bigchristo:
that’s because English premier league is the most difficult league where bottom line team will beat a team topping the league, in Spanish league or Budisliga or Italian serie A n French league you can easily spot who will win the league from January and there are mostly only 3 or four contenders while premiership Leceister city can come out from know where and win league, individual football in premier league they can give you one season after then next one when defenders mount guard on the player he won’t even score like thr previous season, Give Kudos to Manchester United for being the only team that has produced world best in premier league, I am red

One miraculous season wey Leceister take win league naim you dey talk as if na regular thing for EPL. Apart from Leicester, mention another team wey don win league like that.

Which defenders dey mount guard when Salah, Henry and Ronaldo dey win back to back to back golden boot?

Jokerman:
Well, only haters rescind the known fact that Cristiano is the goat of EPL... no other player has ever won both Ballondor and FIFA Best, even Blatter couldn't steal if for Pessi as usual that year....

Man utd legend
Epl legend
Madrid legend
Laliga legend
Juventus legend
SerieA legend
Portugal legend
Ucl legend
European legend
World legend
GOAT of all time, just a little bit below Pele and Maradona

You still dey blame Blatter till now?

Abeg na Blatter be FIFA President when Messi win 2019 FIFA Best & Balon D’or?

How about 2021 Balon D’or?

I just dey pray make you no run mad for this pain Messi dey put you through everyday.

Stats no dey lie

50 Appearances for PSG
22 goals
26 assists
48 goal contributions(goals+assists)


And they still say niqqa flop cos it’s MESSI

Treasure17:
Welcome back. The fact is, United Is going no where without Ronaldo's contributions.

Man United is still occupying the exact position they ended with his contribution. However, there’s a huge difference between their current position and where they ended last season.

There’s tremendous improvement in their general gameplay and you can’t deny the fact that Man U play more like a team now. One good thing is nobody can attribute their victories to a single player.

With or without his contribution, Man U may end up playing UCL next season and real Man U fans are happy with their all round improvement under Ten Hag.

Mrfixitt:
Good for them. They should have allowed him leave last summer. It's not right holding a player against his Wish. Ronaldo should have gone to City instead of going to struggling Man united

It would have been fair to say Man U stopped him if they had rejected official bid from any club.

He was linked and offered to Chelsea, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Marseille, AT.Madrid, Roma, Napoli and Dortmund but they all denied/rejected the chances to sign him and as a matter of fact, neither of these clubs made official bid after denial.

If Man City wanted Ronaldo, they would have paid Juve the asking price. Do not forget Man City was ready to splash £150 million to sign Kane few weeks before Mendes offered Ronaldo to City……24million asking price is small for Man City and it’s certain Ronaldo will guarantee the amount of goals they would likely get from Kane.

ThierryJay:
I'm in the middle of it brother and it's going fine. How's ur side holding up too?

it’s going well bro

ThierryJay:
E be like say d guy dey take too much Cappuchino cos his cappings are on another level. It's pointless trying to make him see reason and I was just laughing at the energy Sagamite was using to engage him cos it's like he's not aware of his antecedents here.

How work bro?

Beverlyjean:
U keep on posting trash .... where did i ever say Fabregas has the EPL all time record.... I said a season record ... just like salah has the record for goals but shearer has the all time record

Biko, don’t mistake me for the Person you had that argument with on this thread.

You are still wrong…… Fabregas never crossed 18 assists in a season.

Henry did 20 in 2003/2004 and that’s the highest in EPL history.

Like I said before, the highest Fabregas did was 18.

Ozil did 19

KDB equalled Henry’s record of 20 assists in a season last year.

You stat is wrong

ThierryJay:
BeverlyJean your arguments are devoid of logic and inconsistent, so it is pointless going back and forth with you.

For example in one case up there, you said Messi did not have any real input in 2014 world cup cos he did not have G/A in the knockout stages (even though he actually had an assist in the second round), in your next point you said assists have no value that bossing the midfield like Xavi and Modric is more valuable (which Messi does a lot).

Again, on what you put up there, Ronaldo has scored more goals against the likes of Estonia, Faroe Island, Lithuania, Andorra, Luxembourg etc, than Messi has against Honduras, Jamaica et al. The absolute fact out there is that Ronaldo has benefited more from playing unrated national teams than Messi, yet you still bring it up to slander Messi. It's like Femi-Fani Kayode accusing Peter Obi of party disloyalty.

Can you now see how very unintelligent you sound in many ;Dof your posts? It's almost like engaging with a challenged kid. And it seems you don't care whether what you say is coherent, so long as it's targeted at pulling down Messi, even if it's mumbo jumbo it's fine.

I know you will put up yet another brain-cringing response to my comment but I sincerely do hope you don't express poor judgement like this in real life.

Cc: Sagamite Ojeemah Jokerman Bouncing2

The bolded

It’s like you missed the part where he said, Fabregas has more assist in EPL when record shows Fabregas is behind Giggs in all time assist in EPL. Fabregas is also behind Henry in highest assists recorded per season. Henry did 20. Fab and Ozil did 18 & 19 until recently that KDB equalled the record after many attempts but bros say na fabregas get the record

Na laugh full my belle as I dey read comments today.

Jokerman:
I like Ten Hag. Although I love Ronaldo, but I think I'll support Ten Hag on this... I supported Pochettino and Scaloni when Pessi disrespected them...

Your hypocrisy stinks……defend Ronaldo but don’t drag Messi into his mess.

When you guys were busy dragging and rubbing Messi in mud, nobody ever used Ronaldo as defence to score cheap points.

I see how some of you even said Ronaldo is bigger than the coach and even the club because he won 5 UCL while Man United is on 3…… and so many other rubbish written by his fans to exonerate Ronaldo for his indiscipline and unprofessional display.

By the way, what did Messi do to Pochie and Scaloni?

Source?

Jokerman:
How can you deny you boyhood club... or didn't you support Barca during Ronaldinho, Deco etc

Lol... no player ever played with Pessi and won ballondor.

Modric did with Ronaldo

Was Modric ever mentioned before his heroic in 2018 World Cup?

Town crier, why attribute his victory to Ronaldo?

I can’t count the number of times I have said this……Ronaldo fans are hypocrites by nature and Evra just proved it once again.

Last season, Messi was under fierce criticism and attack from critics especially Ronaldo fans. They never hesitated to malign and abuse Messi on and offline. We met stiff resistance in our bid to even put up a defense. They even used different label on us but we no send. We carried on as usual.

This same Evra did absolutely nothing to shield Messi from slander by critics and media. He even added fuel with his Balon D’or rant.

Now Ronaldo dey face the same shit Messi went through without rancour, Ronaldo sister, Roy Keane, Evra and many others dey accuse Messi fans…… they should simply accept the fact that Ronaldo is finished. It’s hard but na true.

I been no believe in Karma but from the look of things, karma dey exist.

Ronaldo contributes little or nothing without goals and that’s the reason Ten Hag has been benching him in key games. Messi on the other-hand will playmake and assists his teammates even if he’s scoring.

Last season, Messi scored 11goals and contributed 14/15 assists in 30games

Ronaldo 24goals and 3 assists in 30+ games

With this, you will understand why the coach is benching him. no goals and no contribution without goals.

Beverlyjean:
Being fit is part of being a great player

it’s an unfortunate occurrence cos I don’t think any player wants to be injured

Beverlyjean:
Averaging 35 goals a season for the past 20 years ... Ronaldo is not normal

2002-2022?

This stats is wrong…… he started scoring 35goals in 2007/2008

Ade1177:
even at his Age he is phenomenal

Lets see if Haaland can do this for 15yrs then come back

Even Ronaldo r9 didn't stay past 10yrs at the top

no need for comparison…..If CR7 had the kind of injuries De Lima experienced, he would have retired long ago.

If he doesn’t renew with PSG, he will definitely rejoin Barcelona but be rest assured he will still play 2 more seasons before he leaves Europe.

alabo1:
I am speechless. Where you not the one that asked the question of what Ronaldo was doing when Messi was between 20 & 22? THIS IS WHY SOME OF YOU CAN NOT PASS SIMPLE LOGICAL EXAMS. Who said the debate was between you and Ronaldo? My point which you did nit decipher was this - You comment made it seem as if Ronaldos's achievements compared to Messi's at that age period was inconsequential. Hence my question. The inference here if you understand that is that you had possibly achieved much more by that age to be in a position to Judge. I had not so I can make such a statement and never have in similiar analysis. Get it?

Also I am not interested in the earlier post. I am responding to yours. You cany draw me into personal insults please. I cant stoop to your level. ANSWER AGAIN - YOUR COMMENT MEANT THAT RONALDO HAD NOT ACHIEVED ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT WHEN HE WAS BETWEEN 20-22. SIR ACHIEVER FROM YOUR EXALTED POSITION PLEASE TELL US WHAT YOU HAD ACHIEVED BETWEEN AGE 20-22. PERIOD. I DONT SEE WHY THAT IS SO HARD. OUT OF HERE AS YOU CONTINUE TO PLAY DIRTY WITH YOURSELF

You don’t care about the earlier post but you do about mine?

Can you see the hypocrisy?

Messi’s achievements at 35 is considered inconsequential cos Ronaldo won golden boot at the same age. Same logic was applied to dispute the earlier claim about who did better when they were much younger, you turn am to personal attack.

Does that make sense?

Your intention was to ridicule me cos this discussion was never about me.

Like it or not, you were out of line.

alabo1:
It's a pity you lack comprehension. You were the one that brought up what was Ronaldo doing at 20,21,22 when messi was being nominated and winning. I don't bandy insults with people of lower comprehension.

Where and how did you even inherit this dumbness that has made your comprehension ability very weak?

It’s very easy to spot the comment you quoted was just a response to someone who that used age as a factor. I even went further by attaching screenshots but your retarded brain still dey find am difficult to grasp simple logic.

To break down your statement further in case you don't understand the implementation clearly - Ronaldo had done nothing by 20,21,22 compared to Messi right? Fine. My question remains what had you achieved by THEN please.

I never denigrated Ronaldos accomplishments so I won't even stoop to answer your infantile question relating to that. You who consider his accomplishments at the age period inconsequential please enlighten us on yours within the same period.

Dumbo, the debate is between Ronaldo and Messi not Ronaldo and myself. However, when ret*rds have little or nothing to say, they switch to personal attacks. You shouldn’t have quoted me if you can’t raise a superior argument or atleast highlight Ronaldo’s achievements to buttress the point raised by the person whose comment I replied. You decided to go personal. You should have started by telling us what your father had achieved at 20, 21 & 22.

I hope you understand now. I log out and leave you to get dirty with yourself.

What can a brainless goat possibly teach.

alabo1:
Now its top three finosh. Where in the original post was that stated.. He won at 22, Ronaldo won at 23! what is the difference like their is a 10 year gap.

Now a typical Ronaldo has suddenly realized there’s no difference between 22 & 23 but when una start “Ronaldo did this and that at Messi’s age,” you didn’t bother to check the age gap/difference.

You guys tire me. I did not bring the age comparison up so I wont bother with what I was doing at that age

You didn’t bring up age comparison? Who did? If you had taken time to read through, you would not have displayed this level of ignorance. Mbok, look at the screenshots to cure your ignorance about the age comparison.

You that brought it up I REPEAT WHAT WERE YOU DOING OR HAD ACHIEVED AT 20,21, 22. RUBBISH ONCE MORE

I ask again, is “rubbish” your father’s achievements at 20, 21 & 22?

If you cannot state your point without going personal, I am ready to play dirty with you.

Nonsense!

CBR100:
It all about the club dey are playing for, if your club is performing winning trophies u get the award, if not u are out

I guess Rinaldo is the only one to have won it without any major trophies

Same will pan out btw mbappe and haallaand ......na who club win trophy, go end up superior (not about wetin dey there leg)

You don’t get. He came up with this “Ronaldo did this and that at Messi’s age,”

Trying to tell him the things Messi also achieved before he got to the age Ronaldo won his first Balon D’or

Jokerman:
Kaka was on another level thag year.

stop the excuse Abeg

What was he doing at the same age Messi got nominated and won?

He competed with Kaka at 22, won at 23….. Wetin him dey do at 20 & 21?

ugwuadudave:
sweet reply

Like wetin concern personal life with football banter. If you no fit respond to football banter, just waka pass...

I wonder ooh

Some of them are broke and wretched yet they try to broke shame people

If that idiot know how much I make a month, he won’t even spill that trash.

Jokerman:
Ronaldo was also nominated... the first time Pessi was nominated was 2007... Ronaldo was second then.

As at 2004, great players like Zidane, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko etc, was still or nearing their prime.

Even Pessi won't have been nominated

Messi been enjoying top 3 finish since he was 20…..

why didn’t pendu finish top 3 at 20 & 21?

Why did he not win at 22 since u sabi use age judge?

alabo1:
He won his first Ballon D Or at 23. For your information he was first nominated when he was 19 years old then it was called European Footballer of the Year. You guys just hate with 100 mb on this platform. Appreciate greatness so you too can be appreciated if you attain same. The question I now ask is what were YOU doing at 20,21, and 22 please. Rubbish

Before you quote a post you’ve got little or no knowledge about, you should learn to follow from the very beginning.

Oga, we dey talk of top 3 finish….. stop telling me he was nominated at 19 abeg.

At 20, Messi alongside Kaka and Ronaldo finished in top 3

At 21, he finished behind Ronaldo.

He won Balon D’or at 22!

Everytime there’s a debate between these 2, Ronaldo fans will bring up the age factor. How Ronaldo did this and that at Messi’s age…… Apply same logic, a simple question was asked instead of answering logically, you dey attack me like the usual Ronaldo fandog.

Maybe, you should ask your father what he was doing at 20,21 & 22….. we dey talk football you wan go personal. Are you okay?

Beverlyjean:
Benfica is now a top club cos the fraud scored ... he saw juve but melted like ice on steam ... at messis age , Ronaldo was blasting top teams

You don change mouth ooh…..no be you talk Messi go only score against Maccabi?

Be like you don forget say Benfica fuc Juve up in Turin