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kenzysmith:
psg kw he is d one carrying d team all along. Ur messi did nothing 4 psg. When mbappe leaves ur messi who hide under d pretence of playing deep to give assits of playing the ball to hit d woodworks.

You should be praying for Mbappe to stay cos the moment he leaves, Messi will resume next season as their top or false 9.

When Messi resume as PSG no 9, make I no hear farmers league ooh cos na you dey yabb am and still dey pray make Mbappe join Madrid.

One thing, you guys don’t know is everybody supplies Mbappe in that team and the moment he leaves and Messi begin play center forward, na him go begin enjoy those passes from midfield and both wings

You don’t need a soothsayer to tell you what Messi can do as a top or false 9

Jokerman:
If na laliga now, na person wey get 4 goals in 30 games them go give....

Chief Town Crier

Jokerman:
If na laliga now, na person wey get 4 goals in 30 games them go give....

Town crier

Jokerman:
Iniesta is not even better than Ronaldinho, and you want him to be on the GOAT list.

What the hell, Maradona legacy is bigger than Pessi, Ronaldo or iniesta, only Pele stands better.

GOAT status is not by Goals alone... is what a player has achieved through the course of his career as well

sorry but do you have amnesia?

Cos I can’t seem to remember when I said Iniesta should be on the GOAT list.

Secondly, by saying Maradona happen to be the only player on the GOAT list who isn’t judged by goals was simply to show you the role goal scoring played in the whole GOAT debate.

And that’s the exact reason Penaldo is on the list and Dinho isn’t cos you and I know, Ronaldo is not a better player than Dinho.

I agree GOAT status is not just by scoring goals but what I still don’t get is, why Zidane and Ronaldinho are not sitting comfortably with other greats cos whatever you are using to judge, Dinho & Zizou have as well.

Ofunwa111:
Lol.. "not really a comparison but an expression". I am supposed to believe that ? You think say na small pikin u dey talk to ? . Guy go sleep ..

I don’t think I wrote that to convince you in the first place. You can twist it to suit your narrative as long as it makes you feel good.

I write something but na you dey give am meaning…… funny!

Jokerman:
If iniesta is so good, he should be in the Goat list, so stop typing trash.

Goals
Assists
Freekicks
Headers
Dribbles

Ronaldo has the greater percentage over iniesta, the only things we can say iniesta has over cr7 is playmaking and passes, which the percentage though is not much.

With Iniesta’s abilities and outstanding performances over the years, don’t you think he would have been in the GOAT debate, if his goal scoring stats was average or a little above average?

Maradona is the only player in the GOAT debate who isn’t judged on goals.

Meanwhile, you just shot yourself in the foot using this parameters cos you and I know, Messi is clearly ahead of Ronaldo in 3 out of the 5 parameters you mentioned

Goals……. This is debatable considering the number of games they have both played.
Assists
Free Kick
and Dribbles, Messi leads.

But people like you, somehow think Ronaldo is better……as e reach Iniesta, you begin use same stats you have always considered inconsequential.

Hypocrisy dey smell

Ofunwa111:
. When we talking GOAT status, Iniesta is not even talked about. For your information it's not even just goals CR7 surpasses him with .. Assist that you lots kill yourself about, he's still far higher than Iniesta.. So what the Bleep is the comparison about ? .. smh

Who is even talking about GOAT status here?

For fuc sake, my earlier post was not really a comparison but an expression of how good Iniesta is/was.

Downplay it or not, assist remains a crucial part of the game. You lots would never admit it cos Messi is Miles ahead but whenever Ronaldo is compared to other players, it becomes a yardstick.

You and your likes have been try so hard to rubbish stats like goals, dribbles, passes, assists, tackles, saves and many other key stats. As if, Messi and Barcelona paid Opta Joe to track key statistics.

Ofunwa111:
Don't be silly, you and I know you are the unintelligent one here. It's very easy to see.. he doesn't need to ask for my input, because just like I saw what you wrote and was about to write, he was faster to ask, so I just made it easier for him by letting him see the broader picture of you and your likes...

You have just proven to be unintelligent and insecure once again. At the sight of Ronaldo’s name, I knew you and your likes would not hesitate to display your insecurities instead of disputing my points with facts.

Ofunwa111:
Ignore him.. that's how insecure and un-intelligent people write .

see how you have proven to be insecure and unintelligent.

Where in the post, did he ask for your input??

BannedLarge:
Was Zidane even a better player than Iniesta Please don’t insult king andreas

This your question hard aswear

Iniesta was a genius……. If he had played in another generation, I doubt if any player would be compared to him.

paulolee:
I agree with you bro...what u admire the most about him is his bond with his players asif dey are all co-workers...
I gave him more accolade with d way he managed dt starting mane n sallah beef n quickly quenched d fire unlike some coaches dt would choose sides n start benching d other...
he simply said he isn't worried bcox both players are bounded by blood (Africans) he cant make or break them bcoz dey both know dey need each other to succeed..

True…. He’s very matured in handling issues that’s why I said he’s very good at man management.

Pep Guardiola shares similar bond with his players too but Klopp is extraordinary in that regard.

I and my friends prayed fervently for Wenger’s resignation so Arsenal could hire him when he left Dortmund but the old man no gree go that year…… before I know Wetin dey sup, Liverpool don hire am.

Murphyenemuwe:
Please how old are you? Or better still when did you start watching football? Your statement is utter disrespect not to Ferguson alone but to the world of football as a whole

Truth is bitter

ojaysam25:
Pep is good and he is probably the best coach in the world right now but he is not on fergie level yet.
Since he left barca and Bayern they have won more league titles than any team in their respective league. His true test has come in the premiership and he has done well. But he should never be mention in the same category as Ferguson, no one should. From a Chelsea fan.

because he spent 25years coaching Man U or what?

HedwigesMaduro:
If a coach won 13 league titles in another league it will be "that league is not good. How could a coach won 13 titles" blah blah. But since it's the EPL, best coach in history blah blah. The hypocrisy that flows from the utterly brainwashed minds of EPL fanbois is astounding. Before it was "Pep can never dominate in the EPL as all the teams are rich and competitive". Now it's "boo hoo he spends on players boo hoo". Especially since a teamlike Man U is flying high too as they spent similar amounts, right?

Leave the guy with him myopic point of view

Vinnie2000:
Ogbeni, Stop sentimental Arguments.

Guardolia has spent Huge Amounts of pounds on players more than any Coach in Europe!
Cancelo, Walker, Ruben Diaz, John Stones, Jack Grealish, even to the Sex offender Mendy were bought by him for Outrageous fees!

As for the 2 UCL's he won, Both were by FRAUD!
He cheated against Chelsea in 2009 semi finals and against Arsenal in 2011 round of 16 when Van Persie was biasedly sent off @Camp Nou by the compromised Ref!

Face it, Pep is overhyped! He might even go Trophiless this season!

And Fergie didn’t spend?

Do you know he broke British record for Rooney and Ferdinand?

Tell me one coach that outspent Fergie during his reign in England

The man started spending at the time clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and even City couldn’t compete financially.

Why do you think he dominated EPL??

Do not also forget the referee factor ( Howard Webb, Mark Clattenburg, Chris Foy, Gallagher and many others.

Abrahimovic bought Chelsea in 02/03 and they started competing in financially.

Pep joined the league at a time when almost all the top clubs could compete financially and the man still dominate the league by winning 3 in the last 5years.

Pep has just been unlucky in the last few years and over sabi dey kill am atimes like last season against Chelsea in UCL final, against Lyon 2 seasons back and this season against this dangerous Madrid that escaped PSG and Chelsea

If not, how can you start a UCL final without a Defensive midfielder and a traditional no 9?

Abeg go watch Telemundo…… which kind of beer parlor talk be this.

There’s a huge difference between assembling an expensive team and a talented one.

Man city is a mixture of both……..Cancelo, Foden, Bernardo, KDB and Diaz talented and gifted players.

Just so you know, no team can conveniently bench these guys.

The only overrated player on your list is Grealish……The likes of Cancelo, Mahrez and Walker may be expensive but it doesn’t change the fact that are a very good players.

And how dare you call Camavinga and Rodrigo average?

Camavinga was cheap because he turned down an improved deal that could have fetched Rennes good money from his sale.

Rodrigo may not be too expensive but he’s a very talented footballer.

Valverde is underrated but he’s good too…….far better than many overrated English boys.

Every team get their bad day…… you simply can’t use one game to judge Pep and his players

They may not have won the UCL yet but nothing can be taken away from them as they have proven to be consistent with their quest to win the UCL and also dominate the EPL.

Hate or like him, Pep is better than Ferguson and Wenger.

Fergie…….13 league titles(EPL) and 2 UCL in 25years

Pep……….. 9 league titles (La liga, Bundes liga and EPL) and 2 UCL in 13years

And no still forget say na Fergie him beat to win the 2 UCL.

Enjoy the argument wey you wan start with this screenshot

Aonkuuse:
Leave trophy matter, can Messi meet up with Ronaldo's goals These are personal achievements man

This should be enough for your likes

Kingcalls:
Then by ur analysis, Messi dint deserve 2010, 2012, 2019 and 2021

You are right

Case closed!

Fragility6:
Epistle ontop benzema. I mention 2019 balon dor win for anywhere? I no even know who win am and the years that followed coz e no mean anything. Every year new top performer go come but fanatic guys like you wey hawk Messi n Ronaldo matter for head no wan hear. Two established players wey no matter how you decieve yourself to belittle one over the other,thier names don dey entrenched in record books already n they are billionaires but you, nothing you dey get from the messi n Ronaldo argument other than making thier brand more popular. Use your head. Argue less about this guys dem don make am go find your path

You are even more confused than I thought.

Are you sure, you are okay? Was the post you quoted initially not about 2019?

Where in my write up did I say a new performer won’t emerge??

You just dey digress….. for crying out loud, why are you even making a straight discussion complex?

So everyone that discusses about Ronaldo and Messi online does not have a path??

Your sense of reasoning shaa

Abeg try broaden your horizon a little

Kingcalls:
@ bolded... did u make any sense there??

individual stats( goals & Assist) Individual achievements is not limited to goals and assists……. He’s all round performance cos Modric cannot be judged on goals in this case

Kingcalls:
Was modrics individual stats better than Ronaldos in 2018??

Ronaldo had better individual stats but Modric edged Ronaldo on individual achievements by winning UEFA Player of the Year & World Cup Golden Ball

He won la liga and UCL with Ronaldo but he got to the World Cup final

In that same year, Messi had better individual stats but didn’t make top 5.

Fragility6:
� Ominiknowest Messi had 48 goal contributions season never end Benz has 42 why body dey scratch you. Madrid win league but you bring Messi inside the convo. Insecured Messi fans

Did you not see, it was a response to someone that said Benzema should win Balon D’or ?

Benzema deserve Balon Dor with his current stats but people like you castigated Messi in 2019 for winning with a better stats.

Benzema is not leading the hunt for European Golden Boot. Messi won it

Benzema won La liga. Messi did.

Benzema is UCL Top scorer. Messi was too

If you think Benzema deserve the award, why criticize Messi’s win?

If you can’t counter me with a valid point on why Messi should not have won 2019, then you must be a hypocrite for thinking Benzema deserve what you all criticized in 2019.

I also think Benzema deserve it too but my write up is for y’all that criticized Messi in 2019

As a matter of fact, Messi had close to 60goals

I didn’t add assists and his goals in cup games

Kingcalls:
Things changed after cannavaro
2007 Milan kaka
2008 man u Ronaldo
2009 barca Messi

2010 ( when wayo start) Inter messi
2011 barca messi
2012 ( another wayo) chelsea messi
2013 due to the previous 2 way for messi , they had to give CR7 despite bayern winning it

2014 madrid Ronaldo
2015 barca messi
2016 madrid Ronaldo
2017 madrid Ronaldo
2018 madrid modric
2019 Liverpool ( another wayo ) messi
2020 bayern ( anoda wayo) cancelled
2021 Chelsea ( anoda wayo ) messi

See how you manage to justify Ronaldinho’s win

All the past winners had good individual stats and club/national team success to back their wins except 2013 that Ronaldo didn’t win any trophy.

2014 was a World Cup year. Therefore, Neuer should have won based on your analogy

In summary, Ronaldo should not have won 2013 & 2014 by your logic

We’ve had this argument Severally…… I don’t intend to continue this back and forth

Kingcalls:
He dint deserve it...van deserve deserved it...and if real madrid is knocked out and City or Liverpool wins the CL, it will go to either a Liverpool player or City player....whenever someone wins champions league, the winner of the balon dor usually comes from that team... thats y messi dint deserve it in 2019 and last year...

Ronaldinho 2004 & 2005 without UCL

Fragility6:
U just answered yourself. Benzema has 42goals already this season so he deserved it not comparing it with someone that used 36goals to win his own

42 league goals?

Do you guys even read to understand or you are just in a hurry to respond

36 league goals
12 UCL goals

Faller:
When Messi won it, you didn't think of The fact that Lewandowski has more goals, now people are hyping Benzema to win, all of a sudden you remembered that Lewandowski has more goals.


Pessi Fans Tueeeeehhhhh

Your comprehension skill is no different from a toddler

Kingcalls:
Benzema scattered France and Spain... the penguin has been trash in France

We are talking about 2019 that you guys said he didn’t deserve

Realists:
Is Lewandoski still playing in Champions league?.
Is Lewandoski a hat trick holder in this finals ?.
Is Lewandoski a holder of leadership by carrying his club alone?.

Did you ask all these last year??