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Sucre6:
Bro you shouldn't have made that comparison to start with, it threw your beautiful argument off balance

The reason I did is to make everyone’s attention see the double standard each time Messi wins the award

Malory:
I understand where you are coming from but irrespective of everything Karim Benzema deserves the award more than any other player this season

I didn’t dispute that

I am simply exposing the double standard each time Messi wins

Ximenez:
Did you read the latest gists about Lewa moving to Barca and Javi Martinez comments about it?
The award is now strictly for La liga, and they will twist the narratives to favour the players there over other leagues.

I don’t know the particular article you are referring to but I read a few tho

Meanwhile, joining a team in la liga is not a guarantee

Sucre6:
When has messi performance became an yardstick for measuring who gets to win Balon Dor

Read without sentiment and you’ll see the point am making here.

Ximenez:
Na you wan give am?
They will never consider giving any team from premier league.
The goals and La liga title is enough for them to give it to Benzema as that's their favourite league for the now useless ceremonial award.

And stop calling Mane and Salah, they are Africans.

There’s nothing like favourite league bro

And don’t forget Salah was nominated for FIFA awards not long ago

So it’s very possible

LutherSanchez:
Y dey aren't mentioning lewa is because of their hatred for messi.

Exactly, my point

Dazall:
One thing you don't realise is

There is one thing to score goals and another thing to score vital and crucial goals... take away Benzema goals and tell me where real Madrid will be this season.

Majority of his goals have been crucial this season

If you take away Messi’s goals in 2019, Barcelona would not have won la liga neither would they have reach UCL semi final.

Just like Benzema destroyed PSG, Chelsea and City, Messi also destroyed Man U, Chelsea and even Liverpool in the UCL semi final first leg

preciousademc3:
Before world cup, are you sure?

Very sure

preciousademc3:
But my fear is that without winning champions league or world cup they would not give him.even though, I want him to win base on recent performances.

If Man City wins UCL and EPL, Balon D’or goes to KDB.

But if it’s solely on performance, Big Benz deserves it.

Don’t write off Mane and Salah as well

Meanwhile, it will be awarded before the World Cup.

Malory:
Coming from a Chelsea fan, Benzema deserves the world footballer of the year

I still can’t comprehend how Benzema sudden deserves the award.

If you compare Messi’s 2019 stats with Benzema’s current stats, you would realized Messi outperformed him in all parameters.

In 2019, Messi won la liga and was also European Golden Boot winner with 36goals & UCL Top Scorer with 12goals.

Yet, some group of people said, he should never have won Balon D’or with that abysmal performance.

Today, the same group of people are saying Benzema deserves Balon D’or

Don’t get me wrong, i totally agree with their claim that Benzema deserves Balon D’or.

Meanwhile, why is nobody is talking about Lewandoski like they did a few months ago??

Have they forgotten, Lewandoski is still leading Europe with goals for the second consecutive season??

Kingcalls:
Euro 2004?? Not even Euro 2000 when Figo was hot.... even in FiFa 99 , if u played it, Figo in that game was in reserve, despite being their captain...thats cos he was injured around that time and these stuffs capture current squad .... Iniesta was like pedri presently at Barca , will u say he's not a regular.... I first watched Iniesta in 03 just like pedri today ... he was a first team player... how did xavi get number 6 as that time if he wasn't a first team player.... van Bommel that only played one season at barca and according to Google, he only played 24 games( sub inclusive) Edmilson played 71 times in 4 yrs averaging 18 games a season ( sub inclusive) and u say they were regulars at barca .... anyone that watched barca then on TV knows that Iniesta and xavi were first team players ahead of van bommel and Edmilson

You don’t get. It’s not like I didn’t support them in Euro 2000 but Euro 2004 was when they had the best opportunity and I wanted them to win at all cost cos Figo was already in the twilight of his career and could retire at any point.

The discussion was not about the entire Barcelona career of Van Bommel and Edmilson but 2005/2006 season when they won UCL

Like Fabregas was considered a replacement for Vieira. Xavi was also regarded as a direct replacement for Guardiola that why he was given jersey number 6.

I never said Iniesta and Xavi were not first team player…… my point is, they both had guaranteed place under Pep.

Kingcalls:
What u just posted simply shows u had not started watching football... maybe 20 yrs from now , one small pikin online will say pogba or varane were not starters for man u simply just cos he checked Google... u can never understand it like those that regularly watched those games ... u wudnt know if it was tactics or Injury or fatigue or suspension....

U can never know it like those of us that watched it... I hv been a real madrid fan since 1998 , and I hv been interested in watching Spanish teams since the 90s cos I hv supported Spanish and Portuguese national teams since 98 and 2000 respectively.... I had been watching barca games live on Eurosports evn b4 real madrid in the mid 90s... if u were a regular in football, u will know why they stated airing la liga on DSTV

I shouldn’t be doing this cos it’s not even related to the topic of discuss but just so you know, i have consistently watch football from 1999 till date.

I started supporting Arsenal after Kanu was signed cos he was my favorite player in the national team.

In most cases, I use google to back up my points by dropping facts not because I don’t know..................Meanwhile, everybody uses google but that’s not even the case here cos it’s something I know for a fact and I still stand by my assertion until you can convince me beyond every reasonable doubt that Xavi and Iniesta were regulars under Frank Rijkaad.

I insist they became regular after Deco and Ronaldinho were sold by Pep.

I was a very big fan of the Spanish team but I supported Portugal in Euro 2004 cos of Figo.

Kingcalls:
The thing shock me sef... players that were first team players in 2006 world cup for Spain... small boys thatvuse Google search to argue with men that watched games live....

starters for Spain mean they were regular for Barcelona??

Kingcalls:
Na now I know say u b pikin for football...

This is laughable

Mention Barcelona starting eleven 2005/2006

I wan see where Edmilson, Van Bommel and Deco operate

Even their run to ucl, how many games Xavi and Iniesta play??

They were untouchable under Pep after he had succeeded in selling Ronaldinho and Deco

Dmacqh:
You are right . Though I judge players based on importance to team .
A player like Kovasic , Ververde, Pullisic, Gavi , Di Maria , etc are established and important players in their teams but aren’t First 11 guaranteed.
So they are as good as starters .

Exactly

Truth is, Xavi and Iniesta became something else under Pep.

Dmacqh:
For the UCL final , both didn’t start. Iniesta was a half time sub. Xavi recently returned from 4 months injury in April 2006.
As of 2005-2006 season , Xavi and Iniesta are established first team players .

Established first team players does not mean they were starters

Neither of them had a guaranteed place in the team

Bluebrain101:
Please research well before you come here to disgrace yourself.. Which team won 2020/2021 Copa Del Rey?? How many of them helped Messi to score the 2 goals in this final??

You missed the part where he said Xavi and Iniesta were starters in 2006??

Xavi sat on the bench for Deco while Iniesta couldn’t displace Ronaldinho

So how they manage to start still surprises me

All these boys wey begin watch football in 2010 sef

Dmacqh:
Which team did Messi improve ?

Those Barca players ( Iniesta, Xavi, Villa , Pique , Busquet, Puyol, Pedro ) were so good that they won World Cup and Euro x2 without Messi .

He won every trophy with them .
Since Iniesta and Xavi left Barca ( 2016,2015) how many La Liga , UCL did he win for Barca ?

Iniesta , Xavi, Puyol, Valdes won UCL ( 2006 ) as starters when Messi was coming up.

Wow…….. Iniesta and Xavi starters in 2006?

Where Dinho and Deco play

Benny6944:
Bleacher report isn't a credible tabloid lol..
I'm done with you.

Is bleacher report in the class of Goal, Espn and Skysports??

bergs2:
That's a strong argument you put out here.

Not a strong argument bro

His argument is flawed and full of errors.

No sane person would use Pele and Maradona not winning Balon D’or as a yardstick in their time knowing full well, non-europeans were not eligible contenders at the time.

And If Ronaldo goal scoring record is he reason he’s called goat then it’s safe to say Maradona should not be in the GOAT debate

bergs2:
That's a strong argument you put out here.

Not a strong argument bro

His argument is flawed and full of errors.

No sane person would use Pele and Maradona not winning Balon D’or as a yardstick in their time knowing full well, non-europeans were not eligible contenders at the time.

And If Ronaldo goal scoring record is he reason he’s called goat then it’s safe to say Maradona should not be in the GOAT debate.

Benny6944:
Another OP. go and read...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/535952-ballo-dor-2010-wesley-sneijder-snubbed-by-comic-fifa-in-favour-of-barca-trio


https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/sports/feb8c48f33a116505dc77ed3fa2da887


The disgraceful snub of Wesley Sneijder and the 2010 best player award, would go down in history as the most controversial award ever made. It also highlights the pathetic flaws of FIFA voting and award process, a body who preaches fair play.


LOL I hope you can see how obvious its?




2019 Balondor Robbery

https://www.cricketsoccer.com/2019/12/03/ballon-dor-2019-lionel-messi-did-not-deserve-to-win/



2021 Balondor Robbery


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/lionel-messi-2021-ballon-dor-robert-lewandowski-snub/1bqiba9scxbzt1np4tgonesm7e




Ronaldo in 2013


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1922175-cristiano-ronaldo-is-rightful-winner-of-2013-ballon-dor

You and I know these are not credible sports tabloids

Benny6944:
Shut down jare.. you have no points here. where's it in football is balondor recognized as the most prestigious individual honor?

How did modric win it in 2018 over Ronaldo?
How did messi win it in 2010 over sneijder? what did modric do in 2018, Sneijder didn't do x10 in 2010? Even won treble, became the best in UCL, best in Italy, finished runer up in the world..
greatest football robbery of all time.


How did messi win it ahead of VVD in 2019? can you compare his season to canavaro who won it in 2006?
maybe if all this robberies existed back then, canavaro, kaka and co wouldn't have won it.


how did messi win it ahead of Lewandoski in 2021?

So shameful. you can now see how useless and inconsistent the award have become so far.


One thing is certain here, Ronaldo will always be the greatest in big stage take it or leave it.

He dominates in world cup ahead of messi, dominates in international level, dominate in all records you can think of in the best European tournament UCL.. both trophies, assists and goals. so shut down and hibernate in shame. you think its all about being carried by some calibre of players lol.. he has every squad in PSG, let him do the same over there. always searching for a comfort zone. leaving clubs to thrive in another is not meant for everyone. that's the challenge RONALDO is talking about.

The bolded, you lied.

Sneijder was not the best in UCL and Seria A in 2010.

As a matter of fact, Sneijder had just 3 goals in UCL and 4 in the league with less than 10 assists to his name.

Sneijder was not the best player in any of the tournament he participated

The guy had a poor stat to be a balon d’or candidate

You guys overflogging below average performance.

If he was that good, why did Milito beat him to UEFA Best Player Award and Seria A Player of the Year??

In 2018, Modric was UEFA Player of the Year.

I'm ashamed at the fans of Ronaldo who are actually defending and justifying this callous behaviour. Imagine if it was your kid/bro who was meted out this treatment!

Kazeem47:
Messi can't do this.Sue his ass ASAP.

Messi can but he won’t do it

He has proven to be a better loser as much as he is a better winner.

This isnt the first first he's acted immature this season.
Is he the first person to lose?
Why smash the kid’s phone?
Dude, be acting immature and still dey form say media dey against am
Like most of his fans, he is emotionally unintelligent

BlackSheriff:
It happens

To the point of smashing someone's phone??

Dude, criticize when its necessary.

its a very stupid and childish act

That was how he kicked Jones cos Liverpool dey beat am 5-0 and his blind followers stayed mute about it

hybridblood07:
Apologies for insulting you bro. Anyway, I am into handmade footwears. You can patronize me

It’s fine bro…… I will check them out in IG

[quote author=kingjizz post=111106708][/quote]From your first comment, parental stupidity and gross foolishness was already on display…….. I do not need to reiterate.

Capernum:
Argue with records.
They shouldn't not be in the goat discussion sincerely. Because trophy number matters.

Be delivered from innate hatred in the name of the lord. I command sense to fall into your head now in Jesus name.

You just realized trophy number matters?

Awards
Trophies
European Golden Boots

Messi surpass Ronaldo in Awards both in (int’l tournaments and club competitions), Trophies and European Golden Boots but you guys still think Ronaldo is better

Even goal scoring, remember Ronaldo played about 150games more with less than 50 goals but you guys still consider him a better goal scorer

kingjizz:
Poverty is really disturbing you
Cr7 is richer and better than you in everything ..He's also better than your two million generations to come

Poor people like you hate

Amadioha strike you and your entire family!!

You compound fooooooool………..How is this related to the topic of discuss?

You no criticize Messi when they knock PSG out last week?

You are just an emotionally unintelligent idiot and a bloody hypocrite.

You can criticize Messi but slowpoke like you no fit stand to watch Ronaldo criticism

Poverty must have eaten the better part of your brain for you to have type this crap in the first place.

Everyday jobless mofo like you go come nairaland broke shaming people wey dey better than you and your entire generation.

blowjohn:
But social media wise, Ronaldo has more fans

Messi is not really a social media person. Go to his Instagram page and check how many times he has posted compare to Ronaldo.