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phreakabit:
Well, with the way some of the posters here make posts joking about the situation and blaming FELLOW Nigerians stuck in Libya, its apparent there is absolutely[b] NO[/b] future for Nigeria or wherever we end up if Nigeria . . . . .(clears throat) You get my point. We just dont have value for our fellow Nigerian. Its  pathetic.

Very right. That is actually the saddest part of this whole issue for me. It seems Msny of us don't really know how to be concerned for our own people anymore. Very weak sense of sympathy or comradeship. How do you even build a society on that?


It's sad really.

kabukabu:
You are one delirious chat barnacle,aint'cha .

Seems like you are clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.Your phrase "You are too young", did have a direct correlation with age, gramps.

Must be close to your naptime.

When you finally realize how Young and slow your mind is, i'm afraid it might be too late to correct it.

Stop embarrassing me kiddo. I want to be proud of you one day, work on your mind. You can do it

Now don't derail this thread anymore it's a serious topic. OK?

@OP

The sad thing is that nothing will come out of these wikileaks revelations.

All of our leaders are so Corrupt that the downfall of one will be the end of the others. They are all connected in their looting and evil.

That's why IBB cannot take his fight with OBJ to the end. They both have too much dirt on each other.

The same reason why GEJ and his EFCC will never probe Yar'adua or his so called family and Turai Cabal associates.

Unfortunately, most Nigerians don't read newspapers, use the internet or have the Electricity to watch TV well enough to be thoroughly informed.

If not for visionary and dedicated new generation young Nigerians like Seun Osewa(Nairaland) and Omoyele Sowore (sahara reporters) most of the folks who now come on NL will still be extremely ignorant about what happens daily in Nigerian politics or even about our history.  BTW, I really wish I can help solve whatever disagreement Seun and Sowore seems to have. I digress.

Even most of us with "good" access to internet will be barely aware of anything. I appreciate both of them and others like them.


Nigerians talk politics a lot but those of us living in Nigeria lack the sustained access to information and facts to force to us get angry and act. Government owned media and their payed private journalist agents determine what we hear and the analysis we get. Even that comes in trickles because NO ELECTRICITY to enjoy anything and no robust or cheap broadband Internet access for the majority. 

On another wikileaks thread, I told a small story about a cousin of mine who did not hear about the UN Bomb-blast until 48hrs after the blast, his reasons; NO ELECTRICITY to watch news. He didn't know until I told him, and he lives in Lagos o 

I bet millions of Nigerians still don't know about that bombing. Thanks to twitter, BB and Facebook, few now have access, but they are too few and the access is too limited. It might surprise Nigerians living abroad to learn that many of us can't even view the YouTube videos they post online except we browse from work or view from friends or family with very expensive connections.

So we still have a long way to go before all these kind of revelations will start having mass impact on our politics or influence how we vote. We are mostly in the dark in Nigeria.

Very sad.

Kowtowing to America became central to policy, and from the most junior official to the highest, invitation to dinner in the American ambassador’s residence became a mark of recognition and an opportunity to sing without let about Nigeria, thus providing vital pieces in the tapestry of American domination of Nigeria and the world.

This is not trivial; recall that the late President Yar’adua described his invitation to the White House, by President George Bush, as the greatest thing that ever happened to him! Groveling servitude to imperialism manifests in even the most insignificant situations, to the utter embarrassment of the individuals concerned.

Last year, the controversial sports chieftain, Amos Adamu, fell for a sting operation laid out by British journalists. He sang like a bird and fell into a trap, which ended his controversial sports career. The same man would have treated Nigerian journalists with contempt, but facing Oyibo journalists he lost it, and like Humpty-Dumpty, fell off the hill of his carefully-constructed, money-spinning li

Exactly!

The Americans concluded thus;

6. (C) Without any further corroboration, we view these charges with a dose of skepticism. However, we relay them in the interest of conveying information received about any possible Al Qa’ida presence in Nigeria.

There are a few points in this tale that tend to make it suspect. Both Atiku and Tinubu have ample political war-chests; they would not need Al Qa’ida or any other entity to give them 2 million dollars to fund a local group. Second, they can communicate directly with the OPC or other such militant groups throughout the country. Bringing in an exogenous agent like

Al Qa’ida adds little value except the risk of global opprobrium. Also, the linking of Atiku and Tinubu, two of Obasanjo’s biggest political headaches, in such a terrible scheme is almost too neat politically.

They were not fooled, they know Nigeria more than our leaders.

kabukabu:
and you are nothing but a senile,deranged old timer who needs to take his medication.

Mumu, I was referring to your mind not your age

kabukabu50:
JJC, where have you been all thses years when china and indonesia have been killing Africans in their country over minor drug offenses.

I don't know how you can pull a question like that out of your A.s.s as a response to what I wrote. So because I questioned people's fixation on the politics of Libya, then I'm ignorant and new to the fate of Nigerians or dark skinned people all over the world?

You are too Young.

I don't see why the argument over who is legitimate between ghaddafi or the Rebels concern Nigerians, who cares 

The IMPORTANT THING to care about is how to relieve the pain and stop the oppression of Nigerian citizens anywhere they choose to work on planet Earth!!

If we are not killing foreigners in our country despite our own crisis, then we should demand and expect the same considerations from others.

Who cares about ghadaffi or his Rebels. Mtcheeeew!

Mods

This thread should be stickied on the Politics section. Not moved to "crime"

I don't understand why it's in the less trafficked crime section, this is an important issue an act of war and international agression against Nigerians.

It also speaks volume about our leaders, please move it back to politics where more people will see it. MODs

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-754613.0.html

This thread should be stickied on the Politics section. Not moved to "crime"

I don't understand why it's in the less trafficked crime section, this is an act of war and international agression against Nigerians.

It also speaks volume about the quality of leadership please move it back to politics, where more people will see it. MODs

This is a reply to Somze and the other DOOOOOOFUSES on this thread who are blaming poor Nigerian migrant workers for this problem, when we clearly have a government with the capacity to do more.

How do you guys expect people caught in a conflict to travel out of dangerous war Zone? Without Govt help? Without security, especially when they are dark skinned and under attack right from the start of the war because one side assumed they are all mercenaries.

Please tell me how you expect them to accomplish that James Bond, Rambo-like feat of getting out of the country.

Some of us have posted tons of information showing how Nigerians are attacked while trying to escape from Libya here on Nairaland, there is another thread with news showing the indiscriminate shelling of Aftican refugees at the misrata sea port, while trying to get on a ship sent by Turkey, some lost their lives right there -- "Trying to get out" And that was months ago.

Some of you ignorant idioots keep typing "they should get out get out" like programmed Idioots, have you tried escaping from a war before

Early in this conflict, We were all witnesses to the several cries and call that went out to the Nigerian government before they even sent a plane at all  -after Bash Ali cried out, then we sent a few flights to pick him and others but still abandoned thousands in Libya. You can google or check past Nairaland threads if you don't believe me.

Yet some slow idiooots who mostly read newspapers upside down will come online to " type they should leave jor" "they should die there nah"     "they refused to come back"    "they don't like Nigeria"   "why not stay in your country" and other simply Reeeeeetarded lines.

And some of you IDIOOOOTs have family and friends working their Bottom off to send you money from abroad o

Nigerians like you are being violated and killed simply because of the color of their skin and that is all you FOOOOLs can come up with ? WTH is wrong with you people

This is a list of responsible countries and their evacuations early in the conflict;

If anyone has information that Nigeria evacuated up to 5,000 people they should post it.

Libya evacuations by country


Following are details of countries evacuating nationals and employees from Libya or closing operations because of the political turmoil.

COUNTRIES:

BOSNIA: Evacuation of Bosnians continued on Friday with 150 leaving Libya on Turkish boats from Benghazi and a number by air. Some 1,500 Bosnians lived in Libya.

BRAZIL: Malta harbor authorities said on Friday 3,000 Brazilian workers on a cruise ship were set to arrive overnight.

BRITAIN: Britain was drawing up plans to pull out British oil workers stranded in desert camps, Prime Minister David Cameron said on Friday. Six flights had left Libya in the past 24 hours carrying Britons, and the frigate HMS Cumberland had evacuated Britons and other foreigners from Benghazi, he said.

UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said the last British government-sponsored charter plane would leave Tripoli on Saturday. The HMS Cumberland will return to Benghazi, possibly on Sunday, to pick up any remaining Britons there, he said.

BULGARIA: Around 100 Bulgarians living in Benghazi are expected to leave on a Turkish ship which docked in Benghazi on Thursday but has not left because of bad weather. Earlier, 10 Bulgarian citizens were evacuated on a Romanian aircraft.

CANADA: Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon said on Thursday nearly 200 Canadians had been, or were about to be, evacuated on planes and ships arranged by other nations. He said a C-17 military transport plane with 156 seats was on its way to Italy from Germany and would fly to Tripoli as soon as Libyan authorities gave permission.

-- He also said a charter plane from Amman would arrive in Tripoli early on Friday. So far, 213 Canadians have said they want to leave Libya.

CHINA: China had evacuated almost 16,000 of its citizens by Saturday, Xinhua news agency quoted the Foreign Ministry as saying.

China's Ministry of Commerce has said 75 Chinese companies have operations in Libya, including the state-owned energy giant CNPC, parent company of PetroChina Co Ltd.

More than 3,000 Chinese nationals working in Libya boarded two chartered Greek vessels Friday evening at Benghazi port. They would be taken to Greece before returning home. (See Greece section for further details from Athens.)

China's Eastern Airlines will send eight chartered flights in the coming days to evacuate the Chinese from Malta, and the first two planes will arrive in the Mediterranean island nation on Saturday afternoon, according to the Chinese embassy.

CROATIA: Croatia said 28 Croatian workers have left Benghazi on an Italian military ship bound for Malta. A plane from Zagreb landed in Tripoli and Croatian officials were trying to reach the remaining workers at three different sites. There are around 125 Croat workers still in Libya.

GERMANY: Military sources have said Germany is sending three ships to the Libyan coast to help evacuate German citizens. The military is sending a supply vessel "Berlin" and the frigates "Brandenburg" and "Rheinland-Pfalz," with about 600 soldiers aboard. They are currently anchored off Valetta.

The Foreign Ministry said on Saturday that up to 150 Germans were still in Libya.

GREECE: Greece has evacuated 227 Greeks and Cypriots from Tripoli and Sabha aboard three C-130 military aircraft. It has also sent two frigates off Libya and the Greek island of Crete.

Two ships with a total of 4,500 evacuees, mainly Chinese, arrived in Crete from Libya on Thursday. Greeks, Russians, Romanians, Ukrainians and Italians were also among the passengers. Another ferry, with 2,900 evacuees on board docked at the port of Heraklion on Saturday morning.

About 15,000 Chinese in total will be evacuated from Libya on Greek ships, the government has said. They will return home from Greece on chartered flights, officials said.

INDIA: The foreign ministry said it has sent a ship to Benghazi to evacuate at least 1,200 Indians and is seeking permission for its planes to land in Tripoli for other evacuations. There are 18,000 Indians in Libya, mostly in the oil, construction and health sectors.

IRELAND: Ireland is to try again to get a plane back to Tripoli. Irish media said an Irish air force plane returned to Malta from Tripoli with no passengers on board. There are around 70 Irish people in Libya, 54 of them Tripoli.

 Ireland confirmed on Friday that members of the emergency civil assistance team are on the ground in Tripoli airport and are making contact with Irish nationals at the airport and elsewhere in Tripoli.

ITALY: Italy's foreign ministry said it planned to send a C130 aircraft on Friday to evacuate remaining Italians in Libya. A naval operation was underway to evacuate 150 Italians in Misrata and another 1,100 have left Libya in the last few days. The rest were expected back within the next 48 hours.

NETHERLANDS: The Dutch foreign ministry said on Friday 50 Dutch nationals remained in Libya, 25 of whom were looking to leave. However, communication with them was tough and sometimes impossible as they were spread out throughout the country.

PHILIPPINES: President Benigno Aquino said on Thursday his government was making preparations to repatriate about half of the 26,000 Filipino workers in Libya, most of them working in the medical and oil and gas sectors.

--The government has also set aside 100 million pesos ($2.3 million) to lease planes to ferry Filipinos from Libya.

--ROMANIA: Romania's Foreign Ministry said on Saturday 270 citizens had been evacuated from Libya. Another 50 are being evacuated by air and 44 more by sea.

SOUTH AFRICA: South Africa said on Thursday it was arranging for a flight to evacuate some embassy staff and 30-40 nationals from Libya.

SOUTH KOREA: A chartered plane carrying about 200 nationals took off from Tripoli on Friday for Cairo and another is scheduled, the Foreign Ministry said. A total of 1,300 South Koreans were in Libya working for construction companies.

SPAIN: A Spanish armed forces plane carrying 124 people evacuated from Tripoli, landed in Madrid on Friday, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said. The evacuees included 40 Spaniards as well as Mexican, British, Canadian and Portuguese nationals. Spain is planning the evacuation of a small number of Spaniards from outside Tripoli, the spokesman said.

SYRIA: Syria has sent vessels to pick up Syrian nationals from different areas in Libya, in addition to continuing

TUNISIA: Tunisia had at least 30,000 nationals in Libya. At least 7,000 have been able to leave. Tunisia sent five flights to Libya on Wednesday and two before that. Tunisia has scheduled a ferry to travel to Benghazi.

- International Federation of the Red Cross, the world's largest disaster relief organization, said on Saturday 25,000 people had crossed from Libya to Tunisia.

"The number of arrivals has already reached 25,000 -- of which 5,000 are foreign nationals -- in five days since last Monday," it said in a statement.

- TURKEY: Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Saturday that Turkey had evacuated 14,776 people, including 579 foreigners.

UNITED STATES: A U.S.-chartered ferry, Maria Dolores, carrying more than 300 passengers, more than half of them U.S. citizens, arrived in Malta after being delayed by high winds and choppy seas. Another catamaran carrying more U.S. citizens was due to dock later in the day.

-- Separately, the State Department said a chartered aircraft would leave a Tripoli airfield on Friday for Istanbul.

VIETNAM: Vietnam has evacuated about 1,300 of its citizens from Libya out of 10,482 living and working there. The first 300 evacuees will reach home late on Friday.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/116648/20110226/libya-evacuations-by-country-political-turmoil.htm

^^^^^

See plans, flights, ferries, cruises, boats, ships, tens of thousands evacuated, agreements with neighboring countries. That is responsible governance and patriotism right there!!! Those are countries from faaar off continents o!

Somze the Village clown said we sent 4 planes, and he's happy with that? Walahi, that poster and others like him need to be jailed just for coming online. What an embrassing fellow

Somze said:

Totally false!!! Foreign affairs sent a plane Four (4) times and the last one came back almost empty.

That being said the Govt is doing the right thing by demanding security of our citizens by TNC. Since the issue is GEJ's recognition of TNC, if he didn't would it have prevented this? You Buharians should stop being dull.

somze:
Let me get this straight, do you want us to invade Libya? What makes you think we are scared of Libya? TNC is the govt on ground now and it was a good decision to recognize them. Even Russia does and China has communication channels with them. Saudi recognizes them. War crimes like violation happens in most wars. Our government tried to evacuate our citizens but some refused to leave. Now Foreign affairs has sent a strong message to TNC about the safety of Nigerians in Libya and also they remain in communication. This is possible because we recognized them as the new govt.

You are really silly for trying to politicize an issue like this. You called people criticizing government failure on this issue Buharistans? Are you for real?

Do you think you are the only GEJ supporter in Nigeria? Even beaf has wisely towed a very quiet very honorable line on this Libyan attack issue.

You cannot be more pro GEJ than Beaf on this forum, last time i read his post on it, he admitted that mistakes were made, he never claimed that people refused to board evacuation flights (even the Nigerian government has not used that line as an excuse yet) because he knew that is simply a LIE.

Yet you and the other mis- informed, callous and IDIOOOOOTIC posters here keep repeating that same LIE.

Because you saw one or two foolish people on YouTube (who are probably trying to get UN passage to Europe) saying they want UN help does not mean the vast majority of Nigerians decided not to board the "4" evacuation planes sent.

Nigeria abandoned the bulk of her citizens in Libya -- FACT

The Nigerian Ambassdor RAN away without completing the evacuation plan( that is if there was a plan at all) - FACT

Thousands of willing Nigerians were left at the Tripoli airport --- FACT

Thousands more were stranded in other far flung cities both in Ghaddafi and Rebel controlled areas and the Nigerian Govt did nothing to get them safe passage -- FACT

Nigeria did not evacuate more than 4,000 people despite our geographical proximity (closeness) to Libya compared with other countries that evacuated tens of thousands --- FACT (I'll post details soon)

You are a wicked, silly, inhuman, UN-informed character with a dumb sense of right and wrong -- FACT

A lot of these stranded, murdered and violated Nigerians come from the SS, SW and SE and their families probably voted happily for GEJ, you on the other hand probably reside outside Nigeria and never voted.

Based on your posts on this issue so far, you are really an Animal sir -- FACT ( I'll advice you check that out)

BTW, I don't give a damn about Libyan Rebels and Ghaddafi can go to hell anytime he wants, I care about oppressed Nigerians, shikena!

Libya: Nigerian envoy flees
On March 3, 2011 ·

*Abandons 7,000 stranded Nigerians

By VICTOR AHIUMA-YOUNG

NIGERIAN Ambassador to Libya, Ambassador Isah Mohammed Aliyu, has reportedly fled the country to Malta with his family, abandoned more than 7,000 stranded Nigerians at the Tripoli airport.

This came as the embittered Nigerians accuse the government of abandoning them and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of completely showing no interest in what was happening in Libya.


They said that in a bid to prevent the world from knowing actual situation of things in the country, the Libya security agencies did not permit entry with memory cards, camera and laptops into the airport, adding that the Nigerian government should emulate other countries that value their citizens, and initiate a massive evacuation of Nigerians in Libya now.

Rights activists
Meanwhile, rights activists, under the umbrella of the Campaign for the Rights of Nigerians in Diaspora, CRND, have raised alarm that over 7,000 Nigerians were still trapped in Tripoli Airport in Libya, while many more were yet to find their way to  either the airport or other exit ports.

The group faulted the Federal Government and its Ministry of Foreign Affairs for its attitude towards Nigerians in Diaspora, especially when other countries were working day and night to evacuate their citizens from Libya.

CRND said Nigerians or relatives of Nigerians still stranded in the North African country, should reach  one Mr. Solomon Okoduwa in Libya on +218923369805 or +218917266997 for assistance.


In a statement by CRND’s Secretary, Mr. Frank Malcom, the group claimed the stranded Nigerians planned to protest yesterday to draw the attention of government to their plight.

A Nigerian woman with two kids at the Tripoli airport was quoted in the statement as crying for help from Nigerians, human rights groups to appeal to the Nigerian government to evacuate them from Libya.
She said: “I have two kids with me here, and I have been in this airport for three weeks, no food to eat, we sleep on the floor everyday waiting for plane to come and evacuate us. Please beg Nigerian government to come  with bigger planes to evacuate us.”


Another [b]Nigerian, Mr. Solomon Okoduwa, who is the senior elder of Nigeria community in Libya, said “so far the Tripoli airport as at the time of call has recorded seven thousand Nigerians awaiting evacuation, aside those trapped in Benghazi and other states outside Tripoli. Most of them have been at the airport for several weeks; watching other countries coming with cargo planes and ships to evacuate their citizens almost every two hours, while Nigerians starve at the airport as there are no provision for food, water or place to sleep, even pregnant and nursing mothers [/b]are not excluded from the pains and suffering”.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/libya-nigerian-envoy-flees

Here is another one - they want to fight terrorism, but don't even know who is in the police force:
 
“The Nigerian Police Force does not even have a database of its own members, let alone a sophisticated, networked, electronic criminal or watchlist database. Officials at the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission and police have admitted to INL Off that no criminal database in fact exists within the country.”

LOOOOOOL

And we want to dash out 7 Billion dollars to poor countries ?


We don kolo

I thought Fomer President Gowon once called Nigerian children worthless compared to US children, right?

So nothing new

htajz:
hahahahahahaha abeg make they carry us do whatever they want after all we are already finished.

ROFLMAO

Very sad sha

Nothing New!!

Funny thing is that Only Internet Nigerians are aware of all these Wikileaks thing, and just a few.

Most regular Nigerians on the ground here don't even know what Wikileaks is, it took a cousin of mine almost 2 days to learn that Boko Haram bombed UN building in Abuja

He lives in Lagos o, I told him on the second day. 


His reason? --> NEPA has failed to fix their busted transformer so no light for 3weeks and counting. They only use their i-better-pass-my-neighbour Generator at night to watch home videos and charge phones (phone with no money to buy recharge card)
before sleeping.

Only a few percentage of people read newspapers and Many are borderline illiterate, so these things carry little weight.

Ignorance is killing my people. And politicians use that against us.

Sorry.

Minister of Information, Mr Labaran Maku, who briefed newsmen disclosed that the fund is part of an International Development Fund, being packaged by OPEC to assist poorer nations that are trailing behind OPEC members.

It's more blessed to give than to receive 

Seriously, based on 2010 GDP numbers and the position we occupy among our OPEC counterparts in almost all indices of development. especially GDP. I fail to see the wisdom in this kind of spending.

The sad thing is that we have a shitty foreign policy which does not benefit us and our people, that's not how great countries do it.

You give money and support to get something back. I don't know what we got for supporting Libyan Rebels besides the killing and r.a:pi:n.g of our citizens, I'm not sure what we got for spending billions on anti-apartheid movements across Africa and for peace keeping since the 1970's. Definitely not RESPECT.

I hope they will tell us what we stand to gain from this.

Anyway here is a list of where we stand among our OPEC counterparts ---> LAST!! on GDP:

Algeria 
Capital: Algiers
Population: 33,769,700
GDP per capita:  $7,100

Angola
Capital: Luanda
Population: 12,531,400
GDP per capita:  $9,100

Ecuador 
Capital: Quito
Population: 13,927,600
GDP per capita:  $7,700

Indonesia
Capital: Jakarta
Population: 237,512,000
GDP per capita:  $3,900


Iran
Capital: Tehran
Population: 65,875,200
GDP per capita:  $13,100

Iraq 
Capital: Baghdad
Population: 28,221,200
GDP per capita:  $4,000

Kuwait
Capital: Kuwait
Population: 2,596,800
GDP per capita:  $60,800

Libya
Capital: Tripoli (Tarabulus)
Population: 6,173,580
GDP per capita:  $14,900

Nigeria
Capital: Abuja
Population: 146,255,000
GDP per capita:  $2,200.    <---- see as we carry LAST 

Qatar
Capital: Doha
Population: 824,789
GDP per capita:  $101,000

Saudi Arabia 
Capital: Riyadh
Population: 28,146,700
GDP per capita:  $21,300

United Arab Emirates 
Capital: Abu Dhabi
Population: 4,621,400
GDP per capita:  $40,400

Venezuela 
Capital: Caracas
Population: 26,414,800
GDP per capita:  $14,000

Algeria
Capital: Algiers
Population: 33,769,700
GDP per capita:  $7,100

Maybe it's actually better to give the $7Billion to starving Somalis than allow Bode George and Alamiesegha fill up their big tummy with it 

The sad thing is that the beneficiaries might attack Nigerians living in their country tomorrow and we will do nada about it.

I really feel sorry for future Nigerians.

[quote author=X-factoria link=topic=753915.msg9101511#msg9101511 date=1315422591]If you say so. I also dare you to prove me wrong. Go and check PDP murders, they are never clinical and they are always lousy, something like "We did it and nothing will happen. You will only shout and keep quiet" LOL!!![/quote]Prove you wrong? Wetin I know about PDP killing methods. I nor sabi anything.

But if you can post a manual on how to avoid getting killed by PDP it will be very helpful for ordinary folks and their future opponents.

You know we cannot operate a one party state for ever. Unfortunately, many naive opponents will surely continue to challenge PDP. I know, tbey are dumb to think they can defeat PDP, Abeg help them stay alive.

It will be a good public service if you can let us know how to avoid getting killed by PDP. You will be saving lives LOL

haboosa:
for your info u may not be in practice but when u ask people in practice we know how things they go, even the people on TARMA when they come for Tax Audit in your company they will still ask for little cut so that they can reduce your tax liabilities talk less of those LIRS staffs( i mean all what am saying). so watch what u will say here 

So this is what Nigerian accountants do? huh?

Taking bribe to help compannies avoid paying their taxes?

Next time now, they will come on NL to blame Goodluck Jonathan and Governors for not fixing roads or increasing minimum wage.

How do you except your government to make money when you've already blocked their revenue stream because of your greed and long throat?


Yeye people, na only silly grammar and abbreviations dem sabi, no foresight at all. 

pinkrex:
I cannot take this anymore

Why are all the cables released in recent days frequent than others?

This is what the westerners are doing,

1)Create confusion to make their agencies look weak and vulnerable.

2) Cover up trace by affecting few of their own people(UN bombings)

3) Make the countries leadership in high positions look incompetent

4) Provoke for a division or a revolution

5) prepare for a take over and help campaign.




Why didn't we know of all these until now

Don't get too excited it's not a conspiracy against Nigeria.

Wikileaks was recently hacked so Assange decided to release all the remaining cable at once. He released them all on August 30. Hence the new rush of info you are getting.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14765837

[quote author=X-factoria link=topic=753915.msg9100672#msg9100672 date=1315413504]As for PDP folks being the masterminds, I doubt it. PDP killings have always been with a trace or let me say always leave a pointer unlike the case of Williams.[/quote]This man, are you some kind of authority on PDP murder methods?

People sha!

remark D:
why should i defend GEJ if his action has no personal impact on me?As an unbiased human being, all i want to do is judge him fairly, hence why i said.

You are so young

Anyway let me give you a few reasons why some defend Jonathan (yes even when they don't physically live in Naija and are therefore automatically "unbiased" lol

Thank me later.

1. Their Daddy works for him.

2. They heard he's from the same village as their mummy.

3. Their Daddy is a corrupt PDP looter or contractor and he pays their School fees abroad. (I heard foreign student tuition is expensive)

4. Similar to (1) and (2): Their Boyfriend or Aristo is a PDP or GEJ insider (aide) and he takes them on Paris shopping every month. He also bought their BB.

5. They used to have corrupt family members in government who stole to the max, so they know how it feels, just call it "guilt induced empathy"

6. They actually believe leaders are appointed by God, therefore infallible.

7. They were born naive and dumb plus they really enjoy oppression. (can't blame them for being "natural" )

8. Related to (5): They hope to get to power one day and do nothing but steal public funds and share the loot with their cronies.

9. They are actually stvpid enough to think GEJ won fairly.

10. Like me, they are just bored and felt the need to type and troll.

A top source in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who spoke in confidence, said: “The Minister is away in Sweden for Nordic Ministers meeting. But he is on top of the situation, even from his base abroad.

WTH!!?

So a Nordic ministers meeting is more important to Gbenga Ashiru than the health, safety and welfare of his people who are suffering in the hands of racist wicked Arabs?


When will Goodluck Jonathan fire Gbenga Ashiru? When?

dayokanu:
Armed police are scared yet they post unarmed corpers

Touché!

buzugee:
you know you right Chief. i need to come home. been too long gone. home is a calling. sometimes i am scared that i have become too eccentric for nigeria though. like my plans when i enter naija is not to own a car but to ride around on a bicycle. i also plan to shun overt materialism but to live in a house full of african arts and unplastered brick wall, hardwood floors. all earthy stuff. see am scared folks may think i have lost it  

Hmm, bro, I'll advice you stay in OMERICA or JAND then, this ya eccentricity will amuse and confuse the neighborhood kids to no end. I can already see your local nickname.

But if you are still enjoying Eba + ponmo and orisirisi, then no wahala. You are Still connected to us spiritually then. Food na spiritual material you know, that's why a big lump of Pounded yam can produce liquid piss in a few hours.  

We need the eccentric ones though, too many pretenders and conformist dey Naija already.

buzugee:
who is funsho williams ? RIP

I told you buzuge, you need to come back home. When will you buy your ticket? Give up the great Satan's food bro, come back to Isi-ewu


The Gentleman of Lagos Politics

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Funsho Williams (May 9, 1948 – July 27, 2006) was a Nigerian civil servant and politician.

Born Anthony Olufunsho Williams in Lagos, he attended the St. Paul's Catholic school at Ebute Metta and later St. Gregory's college, Lagos. In 1968 he started at the University of Lagos, attaining a degree in civil engineering. He then went on to attend the New Jersey Institute of Technology for his Master's degree.

In 1974 Williams returned to Nigeria and joined the Lagos State civil service. He spent the next 17 years working on construction projects in Lagos State. Approximately 70% of the roads and bridges were built under his stewardship. Williams was a Permanent Secretary by the time he left the civil service in 1991.

He went into business for himself, but he shortly returned to public service, as a Lagos state Commissioner under Colonel Olagunsoye Oyinlola's Military Administratorship.


In the mid 1990s, Williams decided to enter into politics for himself. In order that he could formulate policy, rather than just carry it out. He first joined the United Nigeria Congress Party (UNCP), but after the suspicious death of its leader General Sani Abacha he moved to the Alliance for Democracy (AD).

After a short time Williams again switched parties, this time to the People's Democratic Party (PDP).They had won the 2003 elections under the leadership of President Olusegun Obasanjo.

Williams had stood twice before in the Lagos State Governorship (Gubernatorial) election. At the time of his death he was hoping to be nominated as the PDP Gubernatorial candidate for Lagos State. He had vowed to wrest control of the wealthy state from the Alliance for Democracy Party.

On July 27, 2006 Williams' body was found at his home. He had been tied up stabbed and strangled. On July 28, 2006 two people were arrested in connection with his death. One being his campaign manager, the other being a Senator and former Works Minister Kingsley Adeseye Ogunlewe. Ogunlewe was also hoping to be the PDP Gubernatorial candidate. Williams is survived by his wife, Hilda, and four children. -Wikipedia

Gentlemen nor dey last for Naija politics, too much gra gra, too many thugs around, funny thing is the people seem to like the thuggish uncouth ones. The baba "i dey laughs" 

Even the devil will confess that Funsho's Murder was political, na who kill am we nor know.

Bode George?

They all ran to the US ambassador. In actual fact, Sanusi here showed more self respect, and was more restrained than many of the other wikileakers and bewitched Nigerian fools I've read so far on these cables. Let's not forget that our own President called himself "unqualified" before the US ambassador in these same cables.

Gbawe said

To be honest, he reminds me , positively, of those who are aware of their own self-worth. That is not common amongst Nigerian leaders who are mainly given to kissing b.u.tt to gain favours or move up the ladder. Nonetheless , it is embarrassing our Senior Government officials , including Sanusi, do not wish to be circumspect in speech to a Nation with a streak of manipulative deceit in its natural make up. The USA

This is the take away point for me. We have leaders who are willing to cough out deep opinions, sing like canaries and confess like a petrified accused standing before the Spanish inquisition, but they will never speak the same way to Nigerian newspapers, or accord the Nigerian people the same consideration, even when they are out of office. They mostly talk when they are senile and about to die.

Sanusi displayed rare character. Although i'm suspicious of the man's fundamental motives, I still see him as a brave technocrat with self-pride and the sense to stand for what he believes in.

If more Nigerian politicians and public officials can embrace that kind of ideology or character, strive to delay gratification and avoid placing the ideology of self enrichment over societal progress, then we might just succeed as a great nation.

And yes we really need to get with the program on world geo-politics and elect more concious leaders. All these lickers of foreign Bottom we elect will always sell us out. I can imagine what they tell corrupt and brutally manipulative foreign company officials like Shell, Mobil, Chevron and co, especially after receiving bribes and gifts from them.

I seriously can't imagine Castro, Lula, Chavez or Chinese officials singing like bewitched fools before foreigners like these unconscious Nigerians do.

We need leaders with stronger ideological pride in their africanness/Nigeranness and less disdain for their own people.

If you have ever been with an oyinbo or westerner in the same place in Nigeria before: Airports, Restaurants, Hotels, Government offices, e.t.c you will know what I'm driving at ---> there is a fundamentally flawed Nigerian mentality that automatically forces us to treat and respect westerners or foreigners waaaay better than our Own people. we actually treat each other with more disdain when foreigners are around.

Nigeria and much of Africa is very unique in this foreign Bottom licking attitude, we really need to snap out of it, if we want to progress.

[quote author=peter_tosh link=topic=445804.msg9093940#msg9093940 date=1315336616]Guardian have already deleted that article - "http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/editorial_opinion/article02/140510?pdate=140510&ptitle=Hurry%20up,%20Jonathan"
You can only run, but you cant hide[/quote]Of course they will delete it. Bunch of conniving pretenders.

This is why Discussion Forums like Nairaland are very vital in a democracy. Well done Seun Osewa.

We don’t understand Hausa language.”

Shikena!

State police is the reasonable thing to have.

^

He's not in an easy situation but honestly that was the job he signed for.

The regular Nigerian option is to manage the situation and not embarass powerful local elites, even when they are blocking your moves, these elites tip toe around each other and settle things hush hush, but they will never address fundamental issues because it brings in uncertainties and demands some radicalism. Radicalism that can mess up their investments.

They know each other's dirty deals, it's not wise to act like a cowboy in front of people who know your secret and weakness. You have to either be clean or not give a damn about nothing but radical change to succeed.

Jonathan can call the sultan's bluff and go hard on extremists, including anyone linked to them in the upper religious or political echelon, but it will have short term repercussions and I don't think he's ready for it. So the management continues.

Until we get a radical leader, we can't fix these things, except oil dries up and we all become desperate.

Count me in.

If you need help, let us know who the planners are and what kind of help you need. I'll advice you add a bit of competition marketing twist to it. Let people vote on presentations, videos and other things on social media and promise the winners a stage on D-Day.

Also try to apply for civil society/NGO grants if you can. Or just appeal for partnership funding from the NBA, NMA and NLC, NUJ, ASUU and other labour groups, you don't need to pay too much for venue and logistics If you can sell the vision well. Just don't collect political money.

I wish you Goodluck.