AuschwitzPrefec:



They are not Nazis not fascists but Zionist Marxists.

Ibos can never be classified as fascists because they don't believe in nationalism nor are they committed to an Ethno State rather they are the fiercest advocates for multiculturalism and internationalism which are all the opposite of fascism .

Or rather, they have no political ideology; so far, they are on the winning side.

- They hated Peter Obi in 2009 but see him as a saviour in 2023
- They hated Buhari for 7 years 6 months but loved and supported him during the monetary re-design policy because they believed it would favour their candidate
- They loved the invasion of Ukraine by Russia but hated the proposed intervention of ECOWAS in Niger
- They loved Yoruba Pastors who supported Peter Obi but hated those who did not support him.

They are just a bunch of sore losers who should not be taken seriously. There is no political ideology, just Nzogbu, zogbu politics of "either I win, or we destroy the contest podium". They are in no way Zionist Marxists; they are too confused to have any political ideology. Their best description is closer to fascism.

Kumuyi statement is not a prophecy but a prayer. Let's get the difference.

The megalomaniacs and deranged elements in Niger, Mali, Guinea and Burkina Faso, who overthrew democratically-elected governments, should be flushed out by force of arms. By now, the Nigerian armed forces, armed to the teeth, should have massed at the borders between Nigeria and Niger waiting for the orders from President Bola Tinubu, the Commander-in-Chief, to produce in Abuja, dead or alive, the power usurper in Niger, General Abdourahamane Tchiani.

ECOWAS should lead the battle to restore democratically-elected government of President Mohammed Bazoum of Niger with deliberate speed. However, since the coup in Niger threatens our security, in all ramifications, Nigeria is protected by international law to act alone. Pre-emptive strikes are justified in international law.

When the first military coup in West Africa took place in Togo in January, 1963, we believed it could never happen in Nigeria. But it spread like a wild fire in a scorching sun across West Africa. Nigeria was hard hit by the destructive tsunami. Another wild fire of coups set off in Mali in August, 2020 by some misguided officers has consumed Guinea, Burkina Faso and now Republic of the Niger. If it is not put out, it is bound to consume more countries in the sub region.

In virtually all the cases, whether in Nigeria, Mali, Guinea, Burkina Faso or Niger, no military officers seize power on behalf of the people. The military usually cashes in on the frustration of the public to stage a coup in order to satisfy the lust of its officers for power. Hence one military coup usually leads to another.

When Col. Assimi Goita first seized power in Mali and pressured by ECOWAS not to head the transition government, this writer predicted he would still overthrown the Bah Ndaw-led interim government in order to satisfy the coupists’ lust for power. And when that came to pass, this writer urged the then President Muhammadu Buhari to lead a coalition to force the Goita-led coupists out of power.


“Military officers do not grab power on behalf of the masses. The coup in Niger threatens Nigeria’s security, in all ramifications. Tinubu must not allow it to stand”


He also cast a reflection on the Nigerian President hosting the new military ruler from Chad. “Beamed live to the world, it underscores the exaggeration of the role of the military in any political community,” I submitted.

Military officers do not grab power on behalf of the masses. When Lt. Moussa Traore seized power by force of arms from the civilian President Modibo Keita in 1968, the Malian citizens welcomed the ‘saviour’ from the barracks!

Traore had cashed in on the economic hardship of the masses. But what did the Malians get in return for their embrace of the unelected ‘saviour’? Brutal dictatorship that lasted for 22 (twenty-two) years until another military putsch swept Traore from power! It was the same story in Nigeria, Guinea and other West African countries.

A former Chief Justice of Nigeria, Alfa Belgore, once lamented how military rule stifled Nigerian development. He recalled the many development agreements with the German government in critical sectors of the country’s economy in the early 60s, which had to be abandoned because of army rule.The strong economic foundation laid by our founding founders began a gradual plunge from the period of military take-over in January 15, 1966, notwithstanding the oil money that came later, which was largely mismanaged.

Martial rule signalled the premature death or decimation of hundreds of flourishing industries, many of them multi-nationals. Even those established during the heyday of the army rule did not survive the depredations of the subsequent military governments, as one coup succeeded another.

The then flourishing private/ mission schools were taken over by force, progressively decayed and destroyed. Today, the carcasses of these schools are being returned to their original owners! The public corporations too collapsed under the mismanagement of military regimes – Nigerian Railway, Nigeria Airways, Nigerian National Shipping Line, etc., etc. Indeed, things became so bad for the country that national aircraft and ships were seized in foreign countries on account of unpaid debts!

No government could match military regimes in the art of corruption. Indeed, it can be argued that the civil governments accused of corruption by coup-makers could actually pass for saints. General Abacha alone is credited to have looted about $5 billion (five billion dollars)!

Consequently, my snorts of contempt could be heard on the streets of Bamako when on the 18th day of August, 2020, news filtered to the world that many Malian civilians had welcomed the military putsch against the embattled President Ibrahim Boubacar Keïta. The same uninformed masses have trooped out or have been prodded to welcome another junta in Niger. Coups after coups, the African populations have failed to learn from history!

The concept of sovereignty and non-interference in the internal affairs of independent nations has never stood the test of practice. Sooner or later, a restive state erupts into crisis or full-scale war and its neighbours, willy-nilly, have to share in the negative consequences. Timely intervention in the domestic affairs of other nations could help save the world from the horrors of this age and make it a better place to live. The more reason why we must deal with the coup cancer before it spreads to destroy the entire West-African body. Under the doctrine of self-defence and prevention of crime Nigeria has a duty to deal with the coup in Niger and prevent its spread to its territory.

No government could match military regimes in the art of corruption. Indeed, it can be argued that the civil governments accused of corruption by coup-makers could actually pass for saints. General Abacha alone is credited to have looted about $5 billion (five billion dollars)!

Consequently, my snorts of contempt could be heard on the streets of Bamako when on the 18th day of August, 2020, news filtered to the world that many Malian civilians had welcomed the military putsch against the embattled President Ibrahim Boubacar Keïta. The same uninformed masses have trooped out or have been prodded to welcome another junta in Niger. Coups after coups, the African populations have failed to learn from history!

The concept of sovereignty and non-interference in the internal affairs of independent nations has never stood the test of practice. Sooner or later, a restive state erupts into crisis or full-scale war. Timely intervention in the domestic affairs of other nations could help save the world from the horrors of this age and make it a better place to live. The more reason why we must deal with the coup cancer before it spreads to destroy the entire West-African body. Under the doctrine of self-defence and prevention of crime Nigeria has a duty to deal with the coup in Niger and prevent its spread to its territory.

The coup in Niger is another slap in the face for Africa, ECOWAS, Nigeria – the most populous and powerful nation in the sub regional bloc and President Tinubu – the leader of the largest democracy in West Africa. The President must not allow it to stand. We must all support any action taken by the President to crush the unconstitutional takeover in Niger and destroy the coup cancer once and for all. We reject any recrudescence of military rule in West Africa.

Soyombo, a media practitioner, writes via densityshow@yahoo.com



https://independent.ng/coup-in-niger-tinubu-should-use-force/

An influential Malian woman was sentenced on Wednesday to a year's imprisonment after speaking out against the ruling military and its "failure" to deal with insecurity and inflation, according to her lawyer.

She must also pay a fine of one million Francs cfa (1,500 euros). "We have appealed," Rokia Doumbia's lawyer, Kassoum Tapo, told AFP by telephone.

Under the colonial regime that has been in power in Mali since 2020, it is difficult for dissenting voices to make themselves heard without the risk of being worried. This Sahelian country is confronted with multifaceted violence, including jihadist attacks.

Rokia Doumbia, known in Mali for her commitment to fighting the high cost of living and with a strong following on social networks, was charged with "insulting the Head of State", "inciting revolt" and "disturbing public order through the use of information and communication technologies".

"In March, she launched a "live" message on TikTok addressed to the head of the junta, Colonel Assimi Goïta, before being imprisoned.

"This transition is a failure with 0% (of results). I wouldn't even give 1%, but 0%", she had declared, referring to the period of military government that was supposed to precede the return, announced for 2024, of civilians at the head of the country.

"No Malian lives in peace", she added, even though the authorities regularly claim to have regained the initiative against the jihadists. "Insecurity is gaining ground everywhere", she said.

A person close to Rokia Doumbia, who spoke on condition of anonymity like many of her interlocutors, said that she had been reported to the authorities by the Collectif pour la défense des militaires (CDM). Appeals from this organization, one of the junta's most offensive supporters, are often followed up.






https://www.africanews.com/2023/08/03/mali-influencer-sentenced-to-prison-for-denouncing-the-juntas-failure/

Cuba, Venezuela, Belarus, North Korea etc had Russia presence but they did not get better.

When will we start to take responsibility rather than swap masters in Africa?

AfricanColumbus:




https://easternconsigliereblog.com/simon-ekpa-deceiving-auto-pilot-mugus/

I just glanced over the table in your write-up: "Should Biafra be a Country?"

It made an assumption that the relationship will remain the same.

No, it wouldn't remain the same as the dynamics will be very very different.

A Biafra carved out at this time will be built on a sandy foundation.

Highways:
She's still a girl child... Even if she committed the crime, it's unprofessional to come at her in public and call her fraud.... Her image deserves to be hidden.... JAMB needs to be sued

You know she's 19 years old, right?

MasterJayJay:
Observation: Less views, less comments because the culprit is not from southeast.

No, because his/her people will not support such fraud blindly!

mtngloetiartel:
You don't know what you are dragging about. It is already in the public domain to know if there is glitches or not. The Lady has just shown the court that there was no glitches on Feb 25th as claimed by INEC. Do you now think Amazon would now say otherwise? Dey play. Amazon can't afford to stoop so low by rubbishing thier reputation Unless INEC has something to blackmail AWS.

The same lady that is an Outsourced Staff of Amazon? An LP candidate in the just concluded election? The same one that does not have an Amazon ID? The same lady that has a court case with INEC?

She seems like a discredited witness.

elipheleh:
INEC will be exposed at last. Stealing and corruption must stop at this time or never.

If an illegitimate government is allowed to stay, it encourages evil in the land.

For all our information, Amazon does not issue any staff ID card based on the name Amazon or AWS. All identification cards are tagged Employee Resource Center.

So Madam Ogar is right and I pray with all these, the principalities and dark powers holding this nation captive will be exposed and swept about of our polity once and for all.

Amazon does issue IDs to its core staff.

IamV2:
Meanwhile,

There are group of people you should never argue [longer ] with:

1-people that won't admit their initial opinion[s] in an argument is wrong.

2-people that just want to engage in argument just to talk all day.
They are very fond of changing narratives to waste everyone's time & energy.

3-People that intentionally create a narrative,mostly false,and expect you to engage them in it all day.

They are many bots in nairaland that fits either one or more of those categories,and they will soon invade this thread,you will do everyone of us good by not engaging them.

They are not here for constructive engagement,they are here to represent one or more of the above listed categories.
Just watch them crawl out from the holes they have been hiding all day just to derail this thread & and insult everything we do here.

Actually, you should not set out to do the first item on your list with any adult; don't go about expecting adults to accept they are wrong; not even you can accept that. This is because of our varying perspectives on life.

Secondly, your third point might need to be re-worded; humans are a being of narrative than anything else. Even you created this thread as a narrative, you want to promote the narrative that Obi truly won, and in case the court rules otherwise, you'll reference it as your truth in years to come.

Humans hate to think they are wrong and also have a narrative when engaging with others.

Sakamaje Pastor

If these are the type of people some folks rely on for their lives, then they are the most miserable folks on earth!

Trust in the LORD (not Pastors) with all your heart and might and lean not on your understanding.

mildteddy:


Oh, I was only responding to the part about withdrawing the case. We will pursue it to a logical end. That's how leaders with guts operate.

About Tinubu's "interim" administration, we could already see the handwriting on the wall that he does not care about poor Nigerians. The student loan he signed is impossible to get by any common student ( go and read the requirements). On top of that he has taken away free tuition from Federal schools at the time when fuel has gone up to 550 Naira in some parts of the country due to subsidy removal.

"Let the poor breathe, don't suffocate them"

Kontinuu, s'ogbo...

mildteddy:


Ask people how Ngige performed in Anambra within the 3 years he was a governor before PO reclaimed his mandate. PO will challenge the election until we arrive at a logical conclusion. We need to keep the records straight for posterity.

Are you seriously comparing Ngige to Tinubu?

You must be joking about making that comparison...

A tenth of Tinubu is stronger and more rooted than the best of Obi. Obi only reaped the years of mismanagement of Buhari. With performances from Tinubu, Obi will be relegated to the history textbook (a populist who lost in the Nigeria presidential election despite the online noise)

XY23:
Be deceiving yourself about the unimaginable low your tribe has descended to during the last elections. It is a seed sown against time. The worst of the bigotry is the general classification of all non-yorubas IBOS. Even the Hilda issue on twitter. Many other tribes are beginning to see the yoruba tribe for what its progenitors didn't intend for it to be. All because of politics. Dey play

If Yorubas exhibit the same tendency of a megalomaniac, they'll be worst treated.

Do you think no Yoruba communities want Tinubu in the South East? There are. But after he was declared, they did not taunt their host. That could have spelt consequences of the intended magnitude if they painted any tribal supremacy. In Yoruba culture, you must read the room well before your move. I think the Igbo culture lacks such social awareness.

Hopefully, the Igbos will mature socially and know that actions have consequences.

Of course, some Igbos know this, but a majority are still grappling with that reality.

Yorubas did not make snide remarks at Hausas because Abiola won in Kano!

That does not mean I support the whole fiasco, but sometimes actions have consequences.

For example, Tinubu supported Buhari in 2015 and chose a Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2023 (actions), so many Igbos hated him for that (consequences). Are they justified in hating him? No, but it makes sense because he was making an incursion into their interests.

So, when the victory of Obi in Lagos was announced, rather than celebrating wisely, the majority of the Igbos took it for tribal supremacy and focused on their megalomaniac tendencies. This action pissed many Yorubas (actions) and made them behave foolishly during the gubernatorial election (consequences). These never happened in Kano.

As long as most Igbos continue to make every conversation about them (actions), they will continue to receive hostile reactions. While it is a cultural thing to self-praise, please don't make it all about you only (you'd make enemies quickly). Also, when you are at the receiving end of a defeat, stop making it all about yourself and shouting blue murder (victim mentality).

I hope to help most Igbos understand social intelligence; they'll always be trusted with every opportunity.

But, hey, if an Igbo man doesn't oppress you because he makes a small gain, his low self-esteem will not be satisfied. Yet, when he loses, it's because you hate him. That must be some disease!

DOptical:
Imagine. And Nigeria produces more oil than USA, don't they? Not to mention the fact that it's in their own rate over there, which is the minimum at 0.55 dollars.

Nigerians are Nigeria problems!

Meanwhile, I learned that Dangote built his refinery at 10b dollars while Nigeria government pay more than 10b dollars for subsidy yearly! Imagine the bullshit!

No, the US produces more oil and gas than Nigeria.

The US produces about 20 times of our current production.

Nmeribe17:
Actually i thank God today for what ndigbo is going through nowadays in Nigeria, do you know why?

It's because ndigbo is their own problem.

In this life, one has to know what belongs to him/her and what belongs to us(generally)

Ndigbo does not know what belongs to them especially their leaders, to them everything is based on personal interests which amount to selfish interests.

Some few years back, i recalled when Sunday igboho was locked up in Benin Republic, Yoruba leaders both traditional and Yoruba governor's went to visit and support him, and also reached an agreeme with him. Even before that , Yoruba governor's created amotekun after nnamd kanu raised alarm about the Fulani herdsmen future attacks.

Now on the part of the igbos, what did the so-called ohanaeze Ndigbo and their evil south easten governor's did about nnamdi kanu's revelations, i guess you know.

I have never see Igbo leaders working together before, but this time they all worked against nnamdi kanu with all their might, mind and resources just to pull him down.

Now, believe this or not, The rest of Nigerians ( Yoruba, hausas, fulanis, etc) has noticed one thing about the igbos and that is lack of "unity of purpose" which is the igbos greatest undoing. And that is why no Igbo man will be allowed to rule Nigeria anytime soon or in the nearest future, ndigbo please hear my voice and listen carefully to my words, a house divided against itself cannot stand

Tinubu is president today because there is unity amongst the Yoruba which made them convince the northern cabals and power brokers that he can do the top job, not only that he worked for it both financially and diplomatically, you see!!!

What is ohanaeze and south east leaders doing about uniting the igbos? Absolutely nothing than living in Abuja and Lagos begging for contracts and crumbs that belongs to them and their kinsmen, whenever easterners are killed or humiliated in Nigeria they only condemn and complain and does nothing about it, just give them contracts and watch them fight themselves dirty, they complain of being slaves but does nothing about it. In their abundance and blessings they got of someone like nnamdi kanu begging is their favorite. None of them live in South East, if they are equal to the task someone like hope uzodinma shouldn't have be there, i hope the people's anger doesn't consume them anytime sooner because they are not for the igbos rather against them.


The igbos have no place in Nigeria, because nobody expected such resistance and intelligence from the igbos during the civil war both nationally and internationally.

My candid advise to the Igbo nation is this, UNITE, UNITE UNITE FOR A PURPOSE... FOR YOUR ENEMIES ARE MANY,...WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT NNAMDI KANU IS RELEASED IF NOT THE IGBODPS ARE DOOMED FOR LIFE..

You missed a part of your narrative! If Sunday Igboho made a quarter of Kanu's provocative statements, the Yoruba will gladly give him away.

Nnamdi Kanu does not deserve any pity from the political leaders of the South East based on his comments on arrogance.

Spiritscience:
The Prophet that saw 2023 election clearly

…what he said about May 29 (Part 1)




Congratulations to Angel Network News. This was the only news medium that published the words of the only prophet that saw the outcome of Nigeria’s 2023 presidential election clearly.

Recall that prior to the 2023 presidential election, there was a lot of reluctance by self acclaimed seers to predict what the outcome of the election would be.


One of the few that spoke up, especially the celebrated ‘men of Good’ goofed as their predictions turned out to be mere hallucinations after February 25 general elections.

But one prophet, though unsung and still in the trenches, proved that he truly time travelled to the D day from the prophesy he shared with ANN correspondent which was both published and broadcasted on their media platforms.

Prophet Daniel from Nnewi, ANAMBRA State revealed what God showed him about the outcome of the election, which account was published on February 9th, 2023 and it read thus in part;

“…I am calling on my big brother Peter Obi on what God wants him to do. I have seen the result. I was crying when this result was released. God now said I should not cry, that I should release this prophesy...”

What struck me about how accurate this prophesy was was that it captured exactly the mood of members of Obidient Movement that morning when people woke up to realize that the INEC chairman had hurriedly announced Bola Tinubu of the APC as the winner of the election, amidst glaring evidences of foul play.

Speaking on the final outcome of the election, Prophet Daniel said;

“Peter Obi should work very hard and that the church should come together and work very hard to deliver Peter Obi because what I saw…but God said that it was not yet late. The first few states that were announced did not favour Peter Obi. When I was crying in the spirit, God told me to stop, that it was not yet over. That they still have many states to mention their result.

So as it stands, the game is not ordinary. God said I should release this prophesy and stop. That I will come back to make a concluding prophesy. God said that Heaven is highly interested on that seat but we must do our own part.
In 2022, around August after so many things God had told me about Buhari, God told me that Buhari from his heart was not interested in the outcome of the election. In my trance, I saw Buhari seated, Peter Obi was seated beside him and Tinubu was seated too but Atiku was nowhere to be found in that meeting. I was there too, and what I saw Buhari do there showed that he was a sincere man and so many things that went wrong during his administration were not his fault. God was trying to show me that his heart is not the way we are seeing it. That is why God gave him second chance to live again. God showed me that Buhari’s heart is pure towards this election. What happened there showed that Buhari has conscience. Buhari called on Police in the spirit realm to arrest anyone that would interfere with a free and fair election. When the police came, he did not even care that the person the police was after was his party member. He was after doing the right. Buhari was eager in the spirit to see that the masses get the best president after him. My message to Nigerians is to please support our president. Our president has a good heart but people around him are the ones God is fingering that are fighting to see that the election does not favour Peter Obi. So, the church needs to come together with one mind and make sure that the best man wins. Let us know that God loves Buhari and nothing will happen to him. I am praying for Buhari that he will enjoy his old age more. Stand on that your heart. God has chosen me to be a prophet, not by my education or height. The same way God chose you to be our president not by your education. That is God for you. He does not want to know what the masses are saying.”

Peter Obi never got to meet with this young seer. He has however been working hard since the announcement of President-elect Tinubu to regain his allegedly stolen mandate. I believe it is not yet late for him to seek out this young man and maybe Prophet Daniel is the Joseph whose Grace will help deliver the mandate to Peter Obi.

By O’star Eze
@ostareze

Is the young prophet a Balaam or a Daniel?

A Balaam is a type of pay-for-vision seer and not a part of the New Covenant brought by the resurrection of Christ and the pouring of the Holy Spirit. A Daniel is a minister of divine mandate without a quest for personal gain or aggrandizement.

If you seek attention, then you do not matter in the Kingdom of God but a Thief who comes in through the window.

The seal of the New Creation realities is not being displayed in the write-up above.

Dotherightthing:


Abroad is definitely not for you.

Some people would rather in live in a studio abroad than in a duplex in Nigeria.

Also, many people equate Nigeria to Lagos which is wrong.

Where I stay, I don't have a generator because I don't need it. I could leave home for work sometimes 7:45am and still get to work before 8am. And occasionally I do 80-100km/h on the road.

Life is easy here...

Fortunately, I stay in the Capital of the US; so your assumption about me is uninformed, and I am speaking from my observation based on my travelling to some states and engaging with Nigerians there.

Yes, some people might choose to stay in a studio in LA or New York than stay in a mansion, but this person here is seeking an informed opinion, and I have given mine. It might be great to share an informed view based on evidence, data or induction rather than rely on your sentiment and perception.

@Op, Abroad is not everything about life and leaving your people has its own prices; are you willing to pay it.

overseasnbeyond:
After japa to another country, I realized it is not easy to survive aside from money you make.
missing family and friends.
Don't get it twisted I make the money but have to put the time in.
but it is so boring.
Should I return to Nigeria?

It depends...

(a) If you're just hustling to survive in the US and your family (e.g. wife, parents, siblings etc) is not there and you have skills/jobs that can pay you at least 500k in Nigeria, moving back might be better. In Maslow's hierarchy of needs, your mental health will come next after survival. With 500k, you'll always survive in Nigeria, and you can always be with your family. I perceive that 500k in Nigeria will give you a similar power purchase of $75k yearly in the US. With missing your family, friends etc, the conversion rate doesn't matter that much.

(b) If you are doing great work that is sponsoring your working visa in the US, you might want to have international experience and think of marriage with someone that you can bond with (Nigerian, American etc.) or bring one of your siblings that you can bond with over (if your Visa is that powerful). After getting your US Green Card/Citizenship, you might still move back to Nigeria (if you want) and evolve your own brand/career.

I understand most people that think everything is great about japaing. Some are struggling economically, and their best bet is to 'japa'; others are falling for the bandwagon effect ('me-too wan do am'), yet others want the experience of living abroad. What they fail to know is that:

- You spend much of your money on living costs (tax, house rent, insurance, health, car, etc.)
- The communal life is not here (everyone is running around to survive), and this can induce depression
- The weather can be very wicked, and natural disasters are common in some cities ( think the US and New Zealand)
- Marriage is under threat here, and depending on your values, you might be affected
- Depending on your family setting, the Black man tax can set in easily because there is a legend of some trees dispensing cash in Abroad. In Nigeria, even if you make more money than Abroad, that expectation is low.

I hope you look at your dynamics and make the right decision.

optimusprime2:


Are you implying that INEC basically wrote the Electoral act?
And they can do and undo even if it goes against the Electoral act...




Just to remind you on how the Judicial arm of Government works, whatever the supreme Court dictates, "becomes the law" and once again this issue was interpreted by a dictation of the supreme Court in 2008... meaning it stood as the law until an ammendment...

Trust me, if this wasn't a case, then there would have been no petition on this regard.

INEC is assumed right until proven wrong.

As for 25% FCT issue, we have never had such a case, and we will wait on the Supreme Court to decide if Abuja now have veto votes. This will help strategies to shift.

optimusprime2:


I am not in any way going against "The Law"
All I stated was;

1- The Supreme Court already interpreted this in 2008.

2- It's clear enough to understand without bias

Once again I conclude that we await the court...

But note this, if this 25% issue needed further interpretation, why did INEC go ahead and announce results in such an instance of ambiguity? Shouldn't this interpretation have been done before announcement of the winner?

You assume that INEC agrees with you about Abuja's votes being supervotes. INEC does not believe you need 25% in Abuja to be declared the presidential election winner.

The 25% in the FCT debacle is Peter Obi's argument, and our law states that INEC is correct by default until proven otherwise. So, INEC does not need any court pronouncement because none was before the courts (as at the time of the vote counting), nor were INEC accepting Abuja voters as being 'more' than other Nigerian voters.

So, INEC had no grey understanding and did not need a court to clarify anything.

optimusprime2:


Bros if we go that direction, in 2008 the supreme Court already interpreted this 25% in FCT when Buhari took INEC to court, so there's no need to cross reference interpretations, when Nigeria's judiciary already did it.

https://www.arise.tv/supreme-courts-judgement-in-2008-mandated-a-candidate-to-score-at-least-25-in-the-fct-aondoakaa/

However we are waiting for the court to interprete in this case.

The Supreme Court can rule against it's earlier stand (an example was in the US abortion case of Roe v Wade.

Will you take it if the Supreme Court, in its wisdom, rules against the Abuja 'Super vote' reasoning?

optimusprime2:

No it means the software can efficiently interprete English without bias

Can you reference 3 countries that rely on such to interpret its constitution?

Maestro23:
Me:
I need more clarity on section 134(2) of the Nigerian constitution

Chatgpt:
Section 134(2) of the Nigerian Constitution sets out the requirements for a candidate to be duly elected as the President of Nigeria. The section states that where there are more than two candidates running for the presidential election, the candidate with the highest number of votes cast at the election will be deemed to have been duly elected if he or she meets two additional criteria.

The first criterion is that the candidate must have not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the states in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja. In other words, the candidate must have a broad base of support across the country to be considered duly elected.

The second criterion is that the candidate must have the highest number of votes cast at the election. This means that even if the candidate meets the first criterion, they will not be deemed to have been duly elected if they do not have the highest number of votes cast at the election.

It is important to note that these criteria only apply where there are more than two candidates running for the presidential election. If there are only two candidates, the candidate with the highest number of votes will be deemed to have been duly elected.

Me:
Can Abuja in anyway be exempted from the first criterion?

Chatgpt:
No, Abuja cannot be exempted from the first criterion as set out in Section 134(2) of the Nigerian Constitution. The Constitution specifically requires that a candidate for the presidential election must have not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the states in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja. Therefore, the candidate must obtain at least one-quarter of the votes cast in Abuja as well as in at least two-thirds of all the other states in the country to be considered duly elected as the President of Nigeria.

It is worth noting that the Constitution is the supreme law of Nigeria, and its provisions are binding on all persons and authorities in the country. Any attempt to exempt Abuja or any other state from the requirements of the Constitution would be unconstitutional and invalid.

Me:
What if a candidate gets 25% of valid voted in all 36 states but doesn't get 25% in the FCT, can they be constitutionally declared winner?

Chatgpt:
No, if a candidate gets 25% of the valid votes in all 36 states of Nigeria but does not get 25% of the valid votes in the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Abuja, the candidate cannot be constitutionally declared the winner of the presidential election.

This is because the requirement as set out in Section 134(2) of the Nigerian Constitution is that a candidate for the presidential election must have not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the states in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja. The phrase "each of at least two-thirds of all the states" means that the candidate must obtain the minimum required votes in all the states that make up at least two-thirds of all the states in Nigeria, which is 24 states. Abuja, as the Federal Capital Territory, is also included in this requirement.

Therefore, if the candidate does not meet the requirement of having at least one-quarter of the votes cast in the FCT, Abuja, the candidate cannot be deemed to have been duly elected as the President of Nigeria, even if they meet the requirement in all other states of the federation.

So, Chatgpt is now the interpreter of the law of the country?

Some of you do have acute low self-esteem to think that a technology still in a learning phase should be the guidance of over 220 million people. Wake up

aikyg:
Wow! Igbo people and Ijebu people don suffer for this Lagos. An average Lagosian envies the Ijebus and the Igbos because they are never found slacking. They succeed where others failed to succeed and people wonder how they did it.

Or maybe because they are the most likely to give their landlords headache most.

Chimok:
Political wisdom by Nigeria standard is about winning elections by whichever means and that's unfortunately is what kept Nigeria where she is today. Politicians and the elites are the only beneficiaries of the system living majority (95%) of Nigerians gasping for salvation.
Nigeria has the resources both human and natural that will transform the country to be one of the leading countries in the world but because of the shortcomings and limitations of the electoral process, bad leaders have continued to control the system of governance. The leadership has arrogated to themselves the power to recycle themselves in government that the masses barely have a say in how they are been governed. Politicians have usedthe instrument of religion and majorly ethnicity to perpetuate themselves in governance and the Nigerian masses have become the major tools in sustaining the unfortunate system.

Igbo people of the southeast have since 1993 had a different perspective when it comes to leadership. There voting pattern have continued to be about the best candidate. There collective votes go to the better or best candidate contesting. In 1993, Igbos massively voted Abiola who at that time believed to be the better candidate. Igbos again in 1999 massively voted Obasanjo and did again in 2003 against their very own Ojukwu who failed to get a reasonable votes even in his home state Anambra.
In 2007, Igbos massively voted for Yaradua and Jonathan who respectively were the better candidates among those contesting. In 2015, Igbos again even with the shortcomings of the Jonathan's regime in the southeast he failed to cite any meaningful project still voted him because Igbos know a Jonathan's government would be better than Buhari's. Other regions shared their votes and Buhari emerged eventually and Nigeria was taken 100yrs back.

Now in 2023, Obi obviously remained the best candidate and Igbos again gave him their total votes but other regions ofcourse continued in their religious and ethnic considerations and sentiments.

If we can't follow the Igboman's selflessness and sacrifices, Nigerian masses will continue to live in hell in their own country.

All your opinions here have no basis and also with some untruths. For example, Abiola did not win in the South East in 1993, and in 1999 went to Obasanjo because most Nigerians did not want anyone from the NADECO group as president. 2003 and 2007 were arguably rigged. 2011 victory for GEJ was to bring an outlier. Yorubas were massively looking for an outlier. The Igbos' stand so far has nothing to do with understanding what political leadership mean otherwise the whole of South East will be an El Dorado that we all want to relocate to by now.


By and large, like any Nigerians, the Igbos have a right to stake their political bet on candidates they believe in but there is no evidence that they know how to make a sound judgement on the matter than other Nigerians judging by the over 100 various election specimen in their enclave (from 1999 to 2019) and the result of those they voted into office compared to other geopolitical zones of the country.

So, let's stop encouraging the delusion of grandeur by those who have no result to make the assertions. All Nigerians have made a poor political judgement (mostly) to date and the Igbos' reality is in sync with the facts on ground.

It mean that whoever wins will usher in a new Nigeria

kingsways:
NIGERIA's founding fathers in their wisdom enshrined federal character in the constitution because they realised the need to always carry all the diverse elements that make up the country along

In this 2023 election, it clearly the turn of South East and to support Tinubu will not only be unjust but will directly contravene the vision of Nigeria's founding fathers

Nigeria's respected elders - Obasanjo, Edwin Clark, etc - all know this. This is the reason they are all supporting Peter Obi

Kingsways strongly enjoins all Nigerans in the interest of the country to follow the path of the elders

Nigeria founding fathers you say?; Nigeria's founding founders were mostly tribalistic and nepotistic. They never defined what Nigeria mean before they died.

So, the problem is our conscience as a nation rather than all these politicians.

MsJackson:
Good morning house. I need your opinion on this issue.

Around May last year, my husband and I went with my 4 year old daughter to visit my sister in-law (hubby's elder sister). They insisted they wanted her to stay some days with them, that I should return for her in two or three days time.

After much persuasion from my oga, I left her. But my heart wasn't settled because I've never stayed away from her for that long.
I just noticed that when we called her on video call the very next morning, she looked and sounded depressed, telling us to come take her home. I just thought she was missing me.

I returned the next three days to pick her up. It was even the oldest cousin, a 15 year old girl, who was actually very fond of my daughter that helped me carry her on her back and saw us off to the bustop.

Two or 3 months later, at the end of a Bible study I had with her, my baby said she wanted to tell me something. Hubby was lying on the couch. My baby said the period I took her to that house, the 15 year old girl was always sucking her vagina. My brain shut down immediately. Her dad jumped from the couch and told her to repeat what she just said. She did. She also said that the girl usually holds her mouth close during the act, and that she beats the girl on the head to stop what she was doing, but the girl refused and beat my daughter back.

I broke down. Hubby had never become so mad at his family to the extent of turning his back on them, to the extent of shutting his dad up, but he did all these because his only child was involved.

The family, they all said my daughter was lying. My question is: can a four year old lie about such? The nature of this supposed lie. I don't think so. But all the family members said my daughter lied. And even the girl denied it.
They are totally refusing to address this. They even after some weeks have codedly believe such happened and have called my husband to beg, hubby said so, I don't know if it's true or not. But me the wife, NOBODY, I REPEAT, NOBODY CALLED ME. Like I am nothing in their eyes. Not even the evil mother that insisted my daughter spent some days with them. It's not like if they called me to apologize it would change the past, no, but I might have some tiny relief.

My daughter talks about that experience till date. Even up till yesterday. I am beyond heartbroken. I can't forgive.

The family all turned their face away. Nobody cared to address it, even his parents. I'm thinking of going to their church to expose her because I hear the 15 year old girl is getting baptized next week. Hubby told me to forget about it, his brother told me not to try it. But anytime my daughter remembers this incident and brings it up, I become very disturbed. I don't know what to do.

Please advise me.

This is a very sad case and should be treated with the utmost attention and dispassionately (I know it's a bit difficult to ask a mother to do that). I will suggest the following:

- Ensure you do a thorough finding to know the truth. Our first instinct is to believe a 4-year-old because we assume they can't lie or are not yet as sophisticated in lying. However, children are sometimes sophisticated when they lie. (https://www.wklaw.com/reasons-why-children-may-lie-about-sexual-abuse/). The link I shared might be able to help you to know how children see such lying. Please, validate your daughter's confession. Some children are sophisticated, especially if they know you'll believe any claim they make. (3 months for a child to keep such abuse and start repeating it shows your daughter might be precocious and deep)

- If it turns out true, ensure you seek PTSD treatment for your daughter and yourself. Also, pray for her always and don't let her be popular with such a tag (you need to salvage your daughter's mental health despite the event)

- Step back from your in-laws for now. If your daughter's claim is true, the 15-year-old girl is also damaged and dragging her will give you no closure but tension. A girl that can do that was most likely molested and has been initiated into Lesbianism! We can now see that most Lesbian and Gays had a history of abuse that was not addressed

- In all these things, don't let this experience destroy your marriage. Your husband has shown that he can fight for his daughter, and you should help him during this very strain on his life (strain between one's family of procreation and origination is the most difficult thing for anyone!) Some family will never abandon their own no matter what, while some spouses don't mind divorcing their husband or wife. Destroying your marriage for it will give your daughter so much power over your life that you might regret it.

In all this, I pray you heal (if this story is real)

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