₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
You made a claim about exclusivity. Everything you have done is to answer a question about Jesus by telling me about Mohammed.

Back to topic : "Exclusivity and Terrorism". Can you back this up ? If not please stop bluffing.


The idea of exclusivity is simple. Both the state and federal legislature can enact laws on the same matter EXCEPT for those items that appear in the Exclusive Legislative List. There are 68 items by the way
http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#ExclusiveLegislativeList

Terrorism is not on that list.

Indeed the word ; Terrorism does not appear in our constitution.

So do not make a habit of using the wrong evidence for the wrong argument.

Whatever may be the problem with this law the exclusivity argument is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT

There are laws against murder at state and federal level. Some states have made laws against kidnapping as has the FG so what are wwe talking about?

I will try to make this very simple ....Ekiti house of Assembly cannot legislate on what National Assembly had earlier legislated on . There's really no point going back and forth ....to each his own . Sooner or later, the Ekiti State Govt will arrest erring herdsman.... We will wait for the decision of the court. The Law is the Law...there are no sentiments attached. Till then . Ire ooo

aribisala0:
So what you are offering is YOUR OWN opinion. There is nothing anywhere that says there is exclusivity on TERRORISM legislation so please spare us the bluff and bluster and save it for ignorant villagers.

Any of the federating states may make legislation about terrorism. In this case Fayose is wrong because he has not define terrorism in this particular legislation but that can easily be amended

My Lord, to think I went to the troubles of responding with statutes, case laws and constitutional provisions.

The Nigerian Terrorism (Prevention) Act, 2011 was enacted by the National Assembly. (Which provides the offence is a federal offence)....and I went further by pointing out "covering the field" doctrine covered in Section 4(5) of the constitution. Conclusively, section 251 of the same constitution vest such offences in the jurisdiction of the Federal High Court.

So what are you saying pls??. Pls I'm done.

aribisala0:
How do they relocate in Germany or the US or France. Even in Nigeria they use trucks and we have heaard stories of truckfuls of cows suddenly arriving a village and being offloaded so nothing new there

How will they meet the "challenge" you ask. Well tell us what is the challenge first?

How do the rest of us meet the challenge of kidnapping and armed robbers and so on? Yes there is a security challenge in Nigeria for EVERYONE. not just them.
I agree that the terrorist clause is perhaps unwise but laws can always be amended . Terrorism is just sensationalism simply because terrorism is not defined in the law but NOTHING stops Ekiti making a terrorism law. All they need to do is amend the law and make it aggravated conspiracy with severe penalties. The other regulations are within the power of government to make. Our constitution is not much different from that of the US and there they have a way of "relocating" without trespass. That is the fundamental issue here; TRESPASS .
Please tell us where you get the claim about "exclusivity" on the offence of terrorism.( no argument just source)

The combined effect of Exclusive Legislative List in the SECOND SCHEDULE (List 1) and Section 251 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (As amended).

The common law doctrine of Covering the field is provided for in Section 4(5) and section 1(3) of the constitution.

The constitution is the fons et origo upon which the validity of other laws are traceable.
(A.G Abia & ors vs A.G Federation).


The Nigerian Terrorism (Prevention) Act, 2011 was enacted by the National Assembly.

fosch:
I can't believe Nigeria is battling with issues like this in 21st century, when the world has gone far. Is Dubai,UAE talking about this? The herdsmen and the farmer are business people. Now tell me why the herdsmen would graze on another man's business,then you later sale your cattle and pocket the money leaving the farmer impoverished. Let the herdsmen farm in his ranch to feed his cattle...thatz d solution.lets keep politics aside.

We are a 3rd World Country.....what do you expect?

I'm yet to see a comment that considers the weighty logic of his point. How will they relocate.... Is it by magic, the lawyer proffered a solution of seeking authority but it wasn't considered. Are we saying herdsmen should permanently located in a single location.


As for the issue of carrying weapons or otherwise ....I thought we all grew up with the tales that Malams have dagger ....have we considered the activities of cattle rustlers. Can a rod meet up to the challenge?

Over and above ....I think we are merely getting ahead of ourselves. Because as much as laudable as Mr Fayose 's law is .... It will be ridiculed when it gets to the Superior appellate courts for determination in light of the Exclusivity of the offence of terrorism and the concept of covering the field.

I fear this is not the last on this thorny issue.

blueseacats:
Your post sounded perfect until the end, how can you mention tinubu where there is a discussion about business leaders, your comments on jidenna is right on point, mark as a global IT investor and a business man who has earned the respect of warren buffet , Carlos slim helu and the likes of them, it would have been perfect if you mentioned dangote, yes that is one of the business leaders that can be in marks league, pls I want to believe that name tinubu in this discussion is a typo, pls correct it.

I do think he's entitled to his choice ....if you can agree with him from the Start, I do think you should respect his preference. The thrust of his comment lies in the extant provisions of Section 39 of the CRFN.


I will love to meet OBJ .

People will never detect SARCASM even when it barges into their room. I fail to detect any iota of truth from the convo. Though I wonder the interest people have on someone's love life.

BoneTackle:
'Borders' not 'bothers'

You dey even share the comment sef

Is it with this kind of 'hingrish' that you will make your business ideas presentations?

All these buhari supporters sef...SMH

Lmfao...Haba.... KNOCKOUT. He can always enlist the help of an interpreter. Idea is key

Pardon me sir, but it's the other party that should get a court order/relief in form of an injunction. You don't need an injunction to demolish ....You only need it to stop them ...Be it interim/interlocutory or perpetual.

As for the resort to self-help ...... One cannot fully dissect it without verifying facts in issue.

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Alocia:
And you're Nigerian? If you start failing in all aspects of like you'll say its your village people not knowing its your bad wishes for the country hitting you hard!

Please shut up already .

. As in ....It's so disheartening. I wonder if she was expecting some sort of salute or adoration. Sad fellow

claremont:
Nigeria should prepare for the bronze medal, this game is lost already with this lazy style of play.

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veekid:
Not too far

Mr Clown ....How far, How can I reach you

veekid:
typical Ibadan boy; you can pm me for any questions that you might need answers to

how far

Alki:
You should read this Thanks

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/536245/Paul-Pogba-passes-Man-United-medical-deal-announcement-soon

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/08/paul-pogba-passes-medical-manchester-united

Sure...thanks for the peremptory heads up ....my point is the picture in question has no correlation whatsoever with the completion of the medical. It was stated that it was taken at a launderette. In any case, tomorrow will put a rest to it.

THE CYBERCRIMES (PROHIBITION, PREVENTION,ETC) ACT,2015 was signed into Law by outgoing President Goodluck Jonathan in 2015 ....so the mudslinging is a tad unnecessary. Having stated that .....allow me to attach a snapshot of the section that punishes the offence of "Cyberstalking" in the said Act. Then you endeavour to juxtapose it with Sidiq's recent encounter with Doyin Okupe. (in doubt?....Google that)

It's not just enough we raise issues....we should also be seen taking sound legal positions on those issues.

weblord1900:
The list is incomplete without PHISHING
it's creating a fake copy of a popular site to attract users and hack them when they drop their detail.

Back in the days when we hack 2go accounts

You are smart . Phishing is provided in the CYBERCRIMES(PROHIBITION,PREVENTION,ETC) ACT,2015

Achorise:
Please most yahoo boys don't even know where they fall in, please where do they fall in ?

They fall into so many categories...depends on the elements/circumstances of each specific case.

Xbursta:
u can lie for Africa blackberry has muched or screen grab

Give him a benefit of doubt sir, a BlackBerry 8530 curve 2 does not have a dedicated screen grabbing key OR some set of fancy keys you press together. To munch, you will have to download an app for that, I duly stand corrected though. So, cut him some slack.

martinsadnan11:
sir,does that mean I shouldn't apply for the screening?

No sir, I darenot .... Times have changed....what obtained in my admission seeking days are different from now. There are so many factors, indices et variables involved in the whole thingy now that one gets truly confounded. I can only advise you to be open minded about it, dont be overly optimistic ...at the same time, try not to be jaded. My wishes are with you .... I pray you find favor.

buckyfof:
for real Madrid to say that they can't compete with man utd for pogba's fee.....

shows that man utd Na d nos 1 maga for the market presently

So long Ed Woodward is sure he can recoup the outlay in a short time. I will like to think the money is reasonable from a business perspective as Paul Labile Pogba is rated the most marketable football player by sportpromedia (second only to NBA's Stephen Curry), and it has rumoured amongst media circles already that Manchester United has well over 80% of his image rights. So apart from his on field contributions which must be stated, his off-benefits is equally endearing.

We should not assume that we know more than a commercial spinning club like Manchester United, nobody runs to break a world transfer record on a whim.

Alki:
Source http://www.forumspotz.ng/photo-paul-pogba-all-smiles-as-he-passes-his-medical-at-manchester-united/

Nairaland and It's overly sensational bloggers are like 5 and 6 ...... This picture was taken at a launderette earlier today. It has no correlation whatsoever with his having medical. This picture was posted by an enthusiastic tweep. Mind you ...the official shirt sponsor isn't AON.

We expect official picture by tomorrow or next. Admins here are just for fun ....No due diligence.

Tobyshegz:
Hehehe...That's money from Zlatan Ibrahimovic's shirt sale talking.

Lol ...people assume United will take home the proceeds from shirts sales.

GEJ2019:
Am United,BT Money Was too msh

Yea, when did you receive the debit alert? The outlay affected us all.

OP, you have played yourself

What I'm I seeing here ..... THIS THREAD IS A JOKE .....To think someone went to the extent of making false findings that has been bursted. I think the acknowledgement of the US institute pretty sums it up ....unless someone alleges the verified Facebook/Twitter is compromised. Can we drop all these and get constructive with the criticism. I'm honestly dissapointed....OP started with so much venom. #SoSad

KIKO720:
To Nairaland Mod's and Mr. Seun... you want to ban me, Feel free, Are u guys Okay? Seemz u fellaz reason with no brain, WHY IS THIS ON FRONTPAGE, He passed his waec and so Fhuckin what? No distinction nothing, It not that his d best or so. Feeling so pissed at the rate at which Seun employ TEENAGERS and IMMATURE adult child, To Operate Nairaland.. You wanna hear a little bit of pride, I wrote my waec wit 4 A's back then in 2009, Mtchew. Linda Ikeji will always stand out, Becuz she takes on interesting topic. Nairaland Frontpage is equivalent to linda's site too.

Dont mind these people ....they seem to have lost the zeal ..... Why celebrating mediocrity.... of all exams in a student's life , WAEC seems so inconsequential (I daresay it's harder to fail). FrontPage is full of trash nowadays, the appeal to visit this site is fast dwindling. As for the poster .... Your chances are not so bright. I say this cos I'm an alumnus of the same faculty.

Can someone help me here .... Is NURTW a legal body empowered by law to collect dues from transporters....or is it that a norm have been ignored so long that it's termed normal ...Or is it cos of obvious political considerations that we have allowed this anomaly to fester.

That been said .... The antics used by these overzealous and terribly uncouth thugs is worth stating. It's only normal that one day (or the other ).....the unlucky ones will meet their comeuppance.

MizCharm:
Too many logs in your eyes,I cnt even...!
1. You wrote this,"...I take solace in the fact that I didn't insult you , albeit directly."
Me: ITS CONTRADICTORY. AND WRONG

2."That been stated"
Me: this should be "HAVING SAID THAT".
Ephasis on the modular verb being in the present continous tense!!!

3." I also do not set"
Me: you should ve used the past tense and the sentence should read:I also DID not set...

(Jst felt like taking you down a pin or two...Dnt act so full of urself, no one is above mistakes e.g you! Lol)

Alright lad. Cheers

edbor:
albeit directly? . . you wanted to spite me right?


"That been stated" ?


And not long ago, you were feeling like bat man?
I hate to think you are a law or English student, else your lecturer should be disappointed.

N.B if you want to correct someone don't mock the person.

Lol bro, like I espoused earlier...I bear you no illwill ....having said that, I take solace in the fact that you are interested in my educational background (I pay no mind to the offensive approach...any one in your position will likely do the same). Bro, as you rightly generalized in the former post, no one is above mistakes. Every being has been there. Allow me to reiterate...Go in Peace.

edbor:
prediction issue with phone, also if you check the time of that post it was early (3:32AM) so i didn't even read my post. .


then again no one is above mistakes, and because you are ignorant and chose to spite me I'll not modify my initial post.


you can as well hit your head against the wall since i don't need a method.

Lool bro .... I take solace in the fact that I didn't insult you , albeit directly. That been stated, I also do not set out to make you modify your words, the deed has been done. I bear you no ill-will, go in peace.