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Romance › Re: How To Save A Dying Relationship by olisaokere(m): 11:29pm On Jul 02, 2013
Unfortunately if there isnt any more genuine love,care and affection in the relationship either from the man or the lady,no jupiter will save the relationship and if any of the two in the relationship should try to save it,be ready to be absorbing the trash coming out of your efforts.SOLUTION:if your relationship is dying,simply let it die off(cos all love is lost)and move on..you dont need your pastor to tell you that your partner doesnt really give a damn bout you any more.
Romance › Re: Lamentations Of A Battered Husband by olisaokere(m): 2:28pm On Jun 28, 2013
merciie: I suggest they both go for theraphy/counselling, incase it doesn't work, he should leave that marriage before she kills him!
What is sauce for the goose is also for the gander
NA WA TO YOU OHH.WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THEY BOTH GO FOR A THERAPY/COUNSELLINGhuhCANT YOU SEE THAT HIS WIFE IS A MAD WOMAN?..THIS MAN NEEDS NONE OF THOSE YOU SUGGESTED.WHAT THIS MAN NEED IS ABSOLUTE DISSOLUTION OF THE MARRIAGE
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: The Beer Parlour by olisaokere(m): 12:01pm On Jun 28, 2013
Adrenaline: theres a very thin line between a normal chic and a prostitute nowadays, so sad
I keep telling dudes who trust girls so much this same thing.There is no difference between a normal chick and a prostitute.A girl might be your normal girlfriend but to the next man she is simply a prostitute simply because he has seen her in the act with other men severally but which obviously you have failed to see.Another thing here is,if a girl who happens to be in a relationship with a dude but still have other dates simply defines herself a prostitute or should i say promiscous.Exchange of money for sex doesnt really define whos a prostitute.I can authoritatively tell you all that no girl in this country who doesnt have more than one relationship.Thats the simple truth and dont shy away from that.Married women these day dey shag these days outside marital home not to talk of single ladies.Abegi!
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2013
Sonya4all and Agbotaen,i still strongly disagree with you two.Remember i am from delta and i have heard many opinions from indigenes of these ika areas and they dont think as you two do and thats a very good sign.I still maintain,dont say we but say i okay.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 6:40pm On Jun 27, 2013
Agbotaen you have been advised to use I and not We...YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
Politics › Re: Policemen Of Squadron 38 Killed In Nasarawa Armbush by olisaokere(m): 1:15pm On May 17, 2013
“Apart from the 61 MOPOL officers that were deployed from Akwanga, we have yet to see many others mobilised from the MOPOL base in Lafia, including the men of the State CID. So the claim that only 56 policemen died cannot be true,” an officer confided in our correspondent"

Police Recruitment 2013 forms will be available soon.
Culture › Anambra Is Ancestral Home Of The Igalas by olisaokere(op): 1:15pm On Jan 03, 2013
By C.EYUTCHAE

It was Professor Anta Diop of Senegal who observed that ethnic groups often do not realize the extent to which they share kinship with the language, culture, traditions and historical socio-political structures, evolved by communities they have come to view as rivals. Indeed ethnic groups tend to see themselves as self-enclosed communities. But as an example are the Luluas of Kenya aware of their kingship with the Luluas of Senegal?
By the same token how many of us in Nigeria are aware that Anambra State is the ancestral home of the Igalas, Ngwas, Jukuns and Binis? Yet it remains historically true that Anambra State is the birth place of the founding fathers of Bendel, Imo and Benue States. Hence in language classification these separated people speak a common language which forms part of Kwa group of West African languages.

From Archeological discoveries at Ugwuele near Okigwe dating their existence to some ages follows that the Igbos were descendants of the first men of earth now traced to the Oduvai Gorge in East Africa. In historical literature, the Igbos, originally known as Iduus had their territorial distribution covering South west of the African continent later converging at the whole of the low lying land mass North and South of the Niger and Benue river confluence, down the Niger and Anambra River basins right down to the Niger Delta and westward to River Okpara beyond Lagos as shown in Rev. Johnson’s map in his history of the Yorubas. Later the low land dwellers were characterized as the Olu and the highlanders as the Igbo.

Tradition
Waves of migratrants led by Eri settled at Anambra River basin, establishing the ancient Iduu Ime KINGDOM at Aguleri. Historical traditions relate that his progenitors included Agulu and Menri (from who were descended the Nri), Igbo, Igala, Oba (whose descendants were the Binis) Enuike and a daughter, Ulu-uwa.
Igbo, an itinerant missionary acquired large Iduu followers who became known as Igbo people thus losing their Iduu identity just as followers of Christ are called Christians whether they came from Rome, London or Bonn.
Eris other descendant Menri established a priestly kingdom at Nri known for purification ceremonies and coronation of tributary of Iduu Ime kingdom. Hence, the Eze Nri Obalike (Nri kings (1989-1935) in the first decade of the 20th century told the Government Anthropologist, Northcote Thomas, that the area subject to him was Iduu.

On the same matter Lawton wrote:
“A marked feature of this (Nri) tribe is its hostility to the European, natural enough, when it is remembered that prior to the British, the Obalike was Eze Nri and crowned the kings of Benin and presided over all the religious observation of surrounding peoples”.

It was the tradition that coronation titles were usually conferred on tributary kings by the ancestral Iduu Ime kingdom which also assigned to each a General as head of the palace guards. Hence in honour of their ancestor, Atta the ruler of Igala was titled Atta of Igala. The founders of Benin were the descendants of Oba Eri whose habitation was UgwuOgodo where exists today, the Ogodo spring in Umuleri, near Aguleri. Hence the Binis in modem times still trace their ancestry of “Igodo” a corruption of Ogodo, an Igbo word for elevated place. Hence the first king of Benin, Iweka (anglicized to Eweka) was titled Oba in honour of their ancestor, Oba Eri. Eweka is English spelling of Iweka just as the letter E in England is pronounced I, This name Iweka an Igbo name in full means Iweka n’uno. It reflected the internal feud at the time the-would-be king was born. His second name was Edoziuno, Edo for short, meaning peace maker, thus was derived Edo Kingdom.

The name Benin itself was a corruption of the Igbo words. 'llo obi inu', meaning a place of bitter mindedness, again reflecting the quarrelsomeness of the people at that time over kingship disputes. To the first Benin king was assigned General Ado from Iduu Ime as head of his palace guards. According to the tradition of the people, Egbunike, the founding father of the Ogbunikes has three brothers, Awkuzu, Umuleri and Nando and a sister, Nwonicha. General Ado who was assigned to the Oba of Benin, married Nwonicha and the marriage resulted in such progenies as Onitsha Ado, Ado Ekiti etc.

Background
The Marriage formed the basis of the link between Ogbunike and Onitsha, thus giving the historical background to the Igbo adage which says: “Afuzi Onicha, Ogbunike ewelu,” meaning in the absence of Onitsha, Ogbunike takes its turn. When therefore Eze Chima, a descendant of General Ado in his flight with others, first from Benin, then from Agbor, named his son Onitsha, in honour of their maternal ancestors, and established Onitsha Ugbo and Onitsha Olona and the entire Umu Ezechima being referred to as Onitsha Ado, the origin of nomenclature cannot therefore be in serious doubt.

The Igalas who are descendants of Atta Eri had their ancestral home in Aguleri in the area of Ama Atta (Atta-in-the-fields). Igala was said to be the father of Ikem and was reputed to have such descendants as Omor, Omasi and Umuneke. The Ikems had sometimes settled in Umukete Agukeri, whose descendants were supposed to be the Ikem of Nando, Ikems in Nsukka, Ikems in Onitsha and other areas.

It is relevant to note that in a preliminary statement on the excavation made in Aguleri by the Department of History and Archaeology, University of Nigeria, Nsukka, Dr. F.N. Anozie said that the excavation took place at a site known as “Okpuno Igala”; and that is known to everybody including school children in Aguleri as a deserted Igala settlement. He said, there were sites with walls, one deserted and the other still inhabited by a group of Aguleri people, who during the author’s filed work in the area said they had blood relations with the Igalas. At the approach is the Ama Atta which seemed to have once been a village square. Almost at the centre of the enclosure is a mound known as “Ukpo eze” (kings throne” and North –East of the mound is the Owelle Atta (toilet area) and Ajo Agu Atta (cemetery).

The present Umukete people in Aguleri who claim blood relationship with the Igala people have their village walled, and traces of the wall could still be seen today. When an elderly man from this group was asked by excavators from the University the relationship between them and the Igalas, he said that the father of Igala and Igbo were sons of the same parents and that whenever anybody from Umukete went to Idah he normally would go to greet the Atta or the King. The greeting usually went as follows: “Ata abikibo bie takata bie Igala” which translates the lgbo saying that “Igbo is senior to Atta and Atta begot lgala. This is also reflected in the lgbo saying that: lgbo mulu Atta, mana Atta mulu lgala.” This oneness of lgbo and lgala is also reflected in lgbo adage which says “Alusi lgbo jebe mbana, obulu, alusi obodo lgala” which interprets that the spirits of lgbo-land in transit constitutes the spirit of lgalaland. Those who still doubt the common ancestry of lgbo and lgala could refresh their memory with this popular lgbo adage which says, “ Egbusia lgbo nine, lgbo afodukwa na lgala”, meaning even if all lgbos are wiped out of existence, the lgbos still remain in lgalaland. As with lgala, so is ldoma, who still have remnants of ancestors of ldoma community in Aguleri.

Aku was the fourth son of Agulu whose pregnancy were the Jukuns. The Jukuns as a result of their assertion of their monarchical sovereignty moved North-East of the Middle Belt area. They adopted a kingship tradition that is based on the lgbo abuana (puffada) life cycle. As the puff ada is said never gives birth naturally, but that the young ones bores through its mother which dies in process, the Jukuns kings live very short lives, dying untimely after about seven years when there are signs of maturity of a successor.
The Jukuns greet their kings after his coronation as Agaba Iduu meaning” Iduu Field Marshal whereas in their ancestral lduu land, Agaba Iduu does not refer to the king but to a war lord. Traditionally, the Jukun king’s title is Annum Agaba or Ojogwu Oji Agaba. The Jukun separation from Iduu kingship tradition followed the battle of Nando waged against their relations, the Aguleries. It ended in the Jukuns settling up coronation spot in Wukari. Thus the Nandos in Wukari, in the Middle Belt are presumed to be relations to Ikem, son of lgala in Benue State, and the Nandos in the present Anambra Local Government Area.

The war of succession from lduu Kingdom was initiated by the Oba of Benin known in lgbo historical literature as Agha lduu na Oba. (war of the lduu and Oba). It was a protracted war that touched most lgbo areas. It was intensified when the Benins acquired arms from the Portuguese. Then followed the war of secession of lgala initiated by the Atta. General Ogbe the son of Ajide attacked him at ldah, and was supported by General Udenze who controlled the Anam riverine area. Onoja Nwoboli left Aguleri and joined the lgalas because he was one of the remnants of the lgala descendants still at their Aguleri ancestral home.

Disturbances
General Onoja was stopped at Ogurugu from pushing Southward by General Enewelue who founded the Anyamelum area and part of Nsukka districts. But some remnant of lgala at Aguleri loyal to Atta created disturbances at their Aguleri ancestral home which made a section of Okpuno Nri, to move in a hysteria of haste to the present Imo State where they settled as Ngwas, a name reflecting the nature of the hurry (ngwa ngwa) with which they fled.
Okpuno Nris were made up of Okpu-enu, Okpuana and Aro. From the Okpuno dynasty came Disi Nri whose descendants founded Abacha named after their leader, Ikendu Abacheleku, in the present Idemili Local Government Area. There the principal village is Umudisi. Their ancestral home is Umudisi village at Ikenga Aguleri. Of the Okpuno elements comprising Okpuenu, Okpuana and Aro, the Okpuana people during the lgala disturbances left in a hurry hence their present settlement is known as Okpuala Ngwa. In remembrance of their ancestral structure and traditions during the Annual get-together of the Ngwas of Okpuala, they usually went on a pilgrimage to Okpuno Ngwa.
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m):
BELOW IS AN ARTICLE WRITTEN AND POSTED BY EMEKA ESOGBUE IN 2008.WE ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT HE IS AN IGBO MAN AND SHOULD BE DISREGARDED IN TOTALITY WHEN HE COMES UP TODAY TO SAY ANIOMA IS AN ETHNIC GROUP OR NOT IGBO BLA BLA BLA.THIS MAN AND HIS COHORTS ARE BEGINNING TO EMBARRASS IGBOS IN DELTA STATE ...(I NEEDED TO POST THE FULL ARTICLE HERE FOR ALL TO READ).

http://www.openarticle.com/article.cfm?id=F2421454-5484-40E0-AE680822B647084F

EXCERPTS

2008 Failed Igbo Day: Ohaneze Ndiigbo Do Something Today

Posted on 10/6/2008 by Emeka Esogbue

As I seek to publish this article, I must state categorically that I expect unaccountable number of rebuttals from my non tolerant fellow Igbo readers but in spite of this, the truth must be told because it is only this truth that can set us free from the present predicaments our Igbo nation is facing. I wish to remind our fellow IgboS who normally view constructive works on the Igbo situation in nation as attempts to denigrate the people that balanced criticisms prescribes perquisite for recovery and rediscovery for the people and this for long has remained the major instruments several people have utilized in radically turning around their societies for good. Biological and cultural affinities should not make us realize that we are associated with problems.

One should however still be grateful to the like of former Governor Achike Udenwa of Imo State one of the few Igbo men that believe that problems are leaving side by side with Igbo to the extent that the ethnic group is not finding its feet politically in the present day Nigeria. Achike Udenwa in a way has helped to portray that truth about core issues about the Igbo race and its segments needs discussed and addressed thoroughly.As a key player in the political affairs of the Igbo land there is no doubt that he has a perfect understanding of politics and exactly how it affects the Igbo people of Nigeria. Our Igbo leaders obviously continue to fail us where it matters and have themselves proved that they cannot keep the light of the spirit of leadership of the race burning as lit by Azikiwe,Ibiam,Osadebe,Okpara and othershuh

The September 2008 failed Igbo Day have not spoken in our favour but have really further confirmed that all is not well within the camp of the race that everyone even outside the country once tipped to produce the likes of sound minds that would usefully rule the country for many to come.

In 2008, at the venue of the celebration of Igbo Day in Okpara Square in Enugu State, Nigeria suspected youth wing of MASOB invaded the venue and disrupted the celebration half way into the event. Events like this are not new to the Igbo race but what was perhaps strange was that the Igbo perhaps for the first time have decided to fight themselves dirty in the public to the extent that Otunba Gbenga Daniels had to intercede on behalf of the elders of Igbo present on the occasion for justice to be tampered with mercy. We thank the almighty God that the youths MASSOB listened after all.

Other tribes seem to posses the charisma lacking among the Igbo indigenes and indeed the Igbo society as a whole. This charisma is the ability to speak and be listened to, ability to gain recognition as a tribal leader, ability to be held as one with insignia of leadership and ability to posses the attribute of recognition for the leadership control of a society. The problem of the Igbo in todays society of Nigeria begins with the absence of any force that speaks and expects to be listened to as one great leader with the mandate of the people perhaps since the exit of the Great Zik of Africa. Even some critics will argue that Azikiwe himself found himself in similar socio-political mess as his presumed leadership of the Ndiigbo was frequently challenged. The height of this can best be defined with the events of the Nigeria-Biafra war in which the Great Zik defected to Nigeria because he wanted to be part of the planning process of Nigeria but the opportunity was never accorded him. Still wanting to remain relevant he defected to Nigeria where he believed that better respect would be accorded him.

One thing that puzzles me is that even Ohaneze have found itself overwhelmed by this problem of the Igbo leaving a lot of vacuum asking to be solved. Is it not right for us to conclude that the Igbo are facing the worst stage as a nation in nation? As further noted by Achike Udenwa, the failure of the Igbo is a collective thing.I blame ourselves for the fate of the Ndiigbo today, because we are contributed to the problem of elevating individual interest rather than that of the collective Igbo race?

We recall that the Igbo in the past 8 years of Obasanjo administration produced 5 senate leaders and all the five states of the South-East produced one senate leader each and at present an Igbo man is the chairman of People?s Democratic Party so one can obviously understand the viewpoint of this Ex-Governor but these leadership positions have translated to nothing for the Igbo larger society as nothing has changed for us. The southeast is the most politically divided today in the entire nation of Nigeria and no one Governor or leader in region has firmly stood up to challenge this situation at hand. Again the region is the most relegated among all the existing geo-political regions of the country.

The issue of erosion which plagues the region and other Igbo lands in the country continues unchecked without a single Governor of Igbo extraction rising to the challenge and rallying round other governors to seek solution to this problem which drives the people of the region o other regions where they further constitute the second largest ethnic-groups after the natives of such regions, developing every region they come across with so much burden of taxation and discrimination among several others the opportunity of developing our own Igbo land are therefore lost to nothing.

Ordinarily the Ndi igbo have no place in the politics of Nigeria which they have worked so hard to build more than every other tribe as every single region of the country have had the Igbo contributing to its development whether directly or indirectly. [b]Even the population of Ndi igbo have remained grossly undercounted as far back as the history of population census in Nigeria can take us back yet Ohaneze have not considered it wise to radically gather the vast brains of ethnic group from Imo, Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi, Enugu, Delta and Rivers and seek solutions to the problems troubling us recognizing that cross-fertilization of ideas and not rebuttals and pretences will help us to overcome the problems.[/b]Ever since the Lawmakers in the country moved for the creation a sixth state for the region to help balance the number of states existing in the South-Eastern region, no single Igbo leader has radically reminded the Nigerian Government of this development lately. Haba! Something must be wrong somewhere.

The southeastern region is the home of the Igbo nation, and the Igbo are significantly found in Delta State, Rivers State, Cameroun and Equatorial Guinea, the socio-economic and political well-beings of the Igbo of Delta and Rivers States especially are tied around the southeastern region of Nigeria who indeed are expecting the region to determine their political climates in the entity of Nigeria but these bulk of people appear to be losing hope after exhausting their patience. While the Igbo in Delta State especially have patiently awaited the larger society to push forward their bid for the creation of Anioma State unsuccessfully, some closely related sub-groups and Igboid groups such as Ika and Ndokwa people have taken to the discrimination of the Igbo not just because of the negative implication of the Civil war on the Igbo nation but because Igbo nation are found wanting in its ability to politically lead the entire Igbo race. No group obviously wants its future mismanaged.

As the humble man he is the like of Achike Udenwa has taken blames for several of these bad situation besetting the Igbo race because according to him,the failings of one man as that of all because they) collectively are(were) entrusted with the people?s interest, but the politician from Orlu would not take any persons blames for downturn?

The Igbo should not worsen their own problems like Governor Chime, a host who decided to absent himself in his own ceremony leaving guests to take charge with no words from him and Governor Elechi who the Igbo people also look to, to help usher in solutions to the problems confronting not only the region but the entire Igbo of Nigeria. The affairs of Igbo race should be taken seriously for the failed congress should have afforded the Igbo the opportunity to discuss their problems once again. And the Igbo Youth wing of MASSOB allowing the congress to hold and expressing their grievances, holding their leaders accountable for their failings by far?would have been a better option than scutling the congress and allowing the leaders to leave. The problems have only deepened and nothing less is expected.

The Ohaneze and indeed the entire Igbo leaders would need to do a lot more put the race back on track because the Igbo are not born to be ruled but also rule because as the citizens of Nigeria we have equal rights as those of Hausa/Fulani and the Yoruba. Whatever other ethnic groups can do right politically in Nigeria, the Igbo can do better. For a society that has produced Nnamdi Azikiwe, Chinua Achebe, Augustine Esogbue, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala the next president of Nigeria needs to emerge from Igbo
land whether from Anambra, Enugu, Imo, Ebonyi, Abia, Delta or Rivers States. We need it. Ohaneze do something.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:21am On Dec 07, 2012
agbotaen: UP COMING IGUE FESTIVAL IN OWA KINGDOM-( obi iselogbe ooo)
1. the clock is ticking ,as this years igue and ibiewere festival will soon be held by his royal majesty-the agbogidi of owa- obi emmanuel efeizomor at owa oyibu,this is about 500 years plus of igue festival in owa kingdom, agbogidi iyare, ojenebo iyare.
2. it is good for owa citizens to come home and witness this great festival that marks the end of the year and begginning of a new year for owa people , it will take place this december
3. we use it to serve the obis head and to pray to oselobue to grant our kingdom and nation peace,and to celebrate sacred dances like uje,ikpema,and others,and to drive evil spirits ojuwu and ighionhai and ubi away ,by the words ubi rie- evil spirits depart,
while the odin masquerade will come out and the shout of iyare will rent the air and the chiefs will carry ada and eben ,while the obi will dress in royal beads and dance to songs like----
obazuaye iyare ooooo,
ojeneebo ni sikiri gba ooooo,
and obi lala iyare.
4. obi ni tor nenyin fe ise,
obi iselogbe oooo( obi happy new year)
Is this one of the Cultural festivals you guys borrowed from the Binis?
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 2:15am On Dec 07, 2012
agbotaen: 1. my igbo friend , please do not continue in this type of propaganda about civil which occurred in 1966, the ika universal delcaration was in 1930 , when the british counted ika area as benin or part of benin ,when benin chiefs told them ika was founded by benins and part of benin ,so our fathers said they where not part of any known ethnic group in nigeria and that ika was an ethnic group of its own , so it has nothing to do with the civil war.
2. every community and people has the right to decided who they are , and even if the europeans or any body later classified ika as igbo ,we the ika people have the right to say we are not igbos, and that we have done,in delta state , the british initially classified isoko as part of uhrobos , may be because of similarity in language and it took many years but later isoko pulled out and asserted thier isoko as a seperate ethnic group, the point is not what people call you but what do you call your self.
3. no ika person has ever denied that there was igbo migration in to ika area or that some igbo culture existed in ika land ,but it is the igbo people that clearly avoid the fact that ika has a strong benin culture in kingship, way of life, religion, dressing, hair style , system of political culture and ideology and a mix of benin in our language ,but go on saying it is only igbo that founded ika , that is very funny with all the ika people with benin names, and the fact that some parts of ika like ozara and ten other villages and tows speak a language similar to edo or are these villages also igbo ,or should we say they are not ika based on their language,
4. why is it that it is only the igbos that will not let others be and they like claiming any body with their names or certain culture , itsekiri is a mix of yoruba and edo and some of them bear yoruba names, while others bear benin names and their language is a mix of both stroongly yoruba and edo , but they are a different ethnic group and the yorubas are not going on propaganda to say why do the itsekiris not say they are yoruba or the benin saying the same thing, the isoko was merged to uhrobo before but they later pulled out and uhrobo people are not masking noise about it ,and ishan and benin has similarity in language but both are different ethnicities and no noise is made about it by the benins,so why is it difficult for igbo people to know and accept that ika is a seperate ethnic group different from igbo and that majority of ika people will never like to be igbo .
5. currently the people of igbodo kingdom are at logger head with their obi,because he went to marry an ebonyi -igbo woman and the community is saying that an igbo woman cannot give them a heir apparent ,and that he should marry an igbodo woman or an ika or anioma or edo woman ,because that is the tradition in ika land, may be that is a food for thought for many igbo people , please read further on this issue on www.ikaworld.com
igbodo is the most eastern area of ika land and their nearness to predominantly igbo cultural area has influenced their language and way of life and many of the citizen migrated from igboland and they are usually the ikas that say they are igbo and that invariably all ikas are igbo , but this sentiments still persist.
6. the ika people know that they share something with igbo and edo and we can work with these two groups at our advantage ,and it is not by propaganda that the igbos can get ika to work with them ,but by proper understanding of the ika man and respect for his ethnicity that will bring about that , ika people are very sturborn and we can stand our ground , in ancient benin empire it was ika that was always battling benin,and during the british too our fathers went to war against them, and this stand was also proven during the civil war,


its clear that your fathers fought against binis when the binis wanted to expand their empire and impose their rule on you people.even the time of the british,you fathers fought but finally succumbed to defeat and at that point the british imposed the bini leadership on your people.AM I RIGHT OR WRONGhuh?...secondly if you were bini migrants,why would the binis try to impose their rule on you people?on the other hand,why would your great grand fathers flee bini empire if they were truly bini people??have you asked yourself,if truly there were migrations from bini,couldnt it have been igbos who after or continuous harsh treatment from the kings of bini decided to leave the area and retrace back home to settle??
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 1:53am On Dec 07, 2012
agbotaen: 1. mr igbo what do you have to say to igbodo citizens telling their obi that an igbo woman from ebonyi cannot give them a heir and they asked him to marry an igbodo or ika or anioma or edo ? it is simple ,majority of ika people dont believe they are igbo/
2. have you ever wondered why ika did not support igbo during the war , ? it is because majority of ika dont believe they are igbo ,so get that right.
3. yes it is true that some ika people believe they are igbo ,but it is usually some persons from igbodo,and ekwuoma who are near predominantly igbo zones of ika land,
4. why is it that all ika kings and nobles and intelligensia ,are avoiding belonging to ohaneze ndigbo like a plague? it is because they do not believe they are igbos.
5. but many igbos are allowed to hallucinate on ika being igbo ,but i tell you when the chips are down ika nation knows they are ika and not igbo.
6. anioma was created some half a century ago , but the are is made up of four groups the aniocha, ndokwa, oshimili and ika , and ika has built their distinct ethnic nationality as we are following the great declaration of 1930,by our fathers.which clearly identified ika as a seperate ethnic group and i can tell you that over 95 percent of ika people believe and subscribe to the highest pan ika socio group -the ogua/onu ika for the ika ethnic group of which sunday osifo is our current leader ,and the ika elders forum headed by justice ehiwarrior from owa kingdom , and so we do not belong to or believe in ohaneze ndigbo as ika people have taken their destiny in their hands.
7. if all these igbo propagandist will take time to study the declaation of chief osadebe,when they formed anioma , they will find out , it was not to progagate igbo ,but to create a different identity for the people that live in anioma area , as he said that the migratory pattern was from edo,yoruba, igala, igbo and others, and he even said that asaba had migrations from even igala people as well as igbo people , but that is not my business as ASABA people are the only ones that can tell us who they are and they have said they are igbos ,so that is good for them, but as for us we are ika ethnic nationality.
Are you well at all Mr Ika Edo?
Culture › Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by olisaokere(m): 1:33am On Dec 07, 2012
[quote author=ada - ide]@agbotaen. pls i think it time you down your weapons, let us hear from other Ika people to believe. your one man squad is beginning to look like an opinionated paper. However there is no clan or town in the east or across the Niger that is call Igbo. nobody speaks Igbo rather we speak different dialects, it is a collection of it that is referred to as Igbo language, hence the term Igbo people. just like your dialect is slightly different from Igbo language so are others. if you look at yourself and decides not to be Igbo am sure everybody understands but try to understand that some Ikas' see themselves as Igbo. I have a friend who is from igbouzo who claims bini too, yet her sister told me they move from Isu in anambra(according to her that's what their grandfather said)so she is igbo. Nobody has denied my friend her bini citizenship. You can be whoever you want, you don't owe anybody an apology or explanation, but do stop insulting others who don't feel like you.[/quote]For a group of bini immigrant slaves claiming to have found a town and yet lose their language is simply a HOAX.This can only happen if there was already a group in great numbers of igbo settlers in that town.All those claiming bini migration dont speak bini but a dialect of igbo.In the case of agbor and some other few igbo towns in delta state sharing the same boundry with edo state dont also speak bini but a dialect of igbo with very few borrowed bini words.this case is similar to that of Arochukwu in abia state with close boundry with akwa ibom....All those stories of bini migration are being propagated by the anti igbo historians notably Emeka Esogbue,Dr Kunirum Osia and their bigot mentors (I doubt if he is a historian).when you read other historical accounts of historians from delta state like Don ohadike,onwatuegwu they will categorically tell you that these igbo towns in delta state are truly inhabited by igbo people.I do visit Ika websites and i have gone through their various forums there and finally you will also see that not all share the same opinion with Agbotaen.
Romance › Re: Ladies: A Romantic Man, Or A Responsible Man? by olisaokere(m): 11:31pm On Dec 05, 2012
carefreewannabe: I am not a very romantic type so I don't expect it from a man neither.

GEtting flowers EVERY NOW AND THEN is a nice move and can make a woman's day happy but it is not that important.

I think most women prefer a responsible guy to a romantic one but even I, a woman who is not that romantic, likes some flowers SOMETIMES.
I hate being called 10 times a day and receiving 5 txt messages every few hours. Everything in moderation, please wink
But why would a SANE man call his girlfriend 10times a day or even multiple sms a day??... Calling once or twice a day should serve.
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 10:57am On Dec 03, 2012
agbotaen: 1. my igbo friend , please do not continue in this type of propaganda about civil which occurred in 1966, the ika universal delcaration was in 1930 , when the british counted ika area as benin or part of benin ,when benin chiefs told them ika was founded by benins and part of benin ,so our fathers said they where not part of any known ethnic group in nigeria and that ika was an ethnic group of its own , so it has nothing to do with the civil war.
2. every community and people has the right to decided who they are , and even if the europeans or any body later classified ika as igbo ,we the ika people have the right to say we are not igbos, and that we have done,in delta state , the british initially classified isoko as part of uhrobos , may be because of similarity in language and it took many years but later isoko pulled out and asserted thier isoko as a seperate ethnic group, the point is not what people call you but what do you call your self.
3. no ika person has ever denied that there was igbo migration in to ika area or that some igbo culture existed in ika land ,but it is the igbo people that clearly avoid the fact that ika has a strong benin culture in kingship, way of life, religion, dressing, hair style , system of political culture and ideology and a mix of benin in our language ,but go on saying it is only igbo that founded ika , that is very funny with all the ika people with benin names, and the fact that some parts of ika like ozara and ten other villages and tows speak a language similar to edo or are these villages also igbo ,or should we say they are not ika based on their language,
4. why is it that it is only the igbos that will not let others be and they like claiming any body with their names or certain culture , itsekiri is a mix of yoruba and edo and some of them bear yoruba names, while others bear benin names and their language is a mix of both stroongly yoruba and edo , but they are a different ethnic group and the yorubas are not going on propaganda to say why do the itsekiris not say they are yoruba or the benin saying the same thing, the isoko was merged to uhrobo before but they later pulled out and uhrobo people are not masking noise about it ,and ishan and benin has similarity in language but both are different ethnicities and no noise is made about it by the benins,so why is it difficult for igbo people to know and accept that ika is a seperate ethnic group different from igbo and that majority of ika people will never like to be igbo .
5. currently the people of igbodo kingdom are at logger head with their obi,because he went to marry an ebonyi -igbo woman and the community is saying that an igbo woman cannot give them a heir apparent ,and that he should marry an igbodo woman or an ika or anioma or edo woman ,because that is the tradition in ika land, may be that is a food for thought for many igbo people , please read further on this issue on www.ikaworld.com
igbodo is the most eastern area of ika land and their nearness to predominantly igbo cultural area has influenced their language and way of life and many of the citizen migrated from igboland and they are usually the ikas that say they are igbo and that invariably all ikas are igbo , but this sentiments still persist.
6. the ika people know that they share something with igbo and edo and we can work with these two groups at our advantage ,and it is not by propaganda that the igbos can get ika to work with them ,but by proper understanding of the ika man and respect for his ethnicity that will bring about that , ika people are very sturborn and we can stand our ground , in ancient benin empire it was ika that was always battling benin,and during the british too our fathers went to war against them, and this stand was also proven during the civil war,
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AGBOTAEN,I WILL NOT GO INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH YOU BUT I CAN AUTHORITATIVELY TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF IKA PEOPLE WHO DONT JUST SHARE THE SAME OPINION WITH YOU AS REGARDS IKA PEOPLE.HOWEVER,YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION BUT WHATEVER YOU SAY ABOUT IKA PEOPLE,YOU CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF IKA PEOPLE.THANK YOU
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 10:50am On Dec 03, 2012
Ournaija: The other day I was discussing with a young man from Ogwashi-Ukwu who was on an industry attache in my coy.He told me he is not Igbo and I asked him where he came from, he said Delta. I asked where in Delta before he confessed Ogwashi-Uku. I quickly added if you are from Ogwashi-Ukwu it means you are an Igbo man. That was when he opened up to me why he choose to be a Delta man instead of an Igbo.

He said he had issues with his Yoruba mates both at home and school. He said he fell in love with a Yoruba girl who is his classmate. He was disgraced the day she took him home. The parents started shouting at her How could you bring Omo-Igbo home as a your husband to be. But the girl tried to explain to them that he is not Omo-Igbo (SE) but a Delta man so that he can be accepted. But the parents insisted that they are all same.

This young man has taken another identity so that he can be accepted by other tribes especially Yorubas by claiming he is a Delta man. I had to correct him to defend his ethnicity even if people don`t accept him. By changing his ethnicity wouldnt make people love him the more. I quickly added that a time will come in Nigeria that people will be judged by who they are and not by where they come from. The civil war did lots of damage to the Igbo people.

For me Igbo ethnic group comprises of different nations/tribes just like other ethnic group.
As a matter of fact,i am also from ogwashi ukwu.do you know what that name means??it means Ogwa Nshi(nri) ukwu meaning Great Place of Nri(nri is written as nshi)and this town was founded by adaigbo who is from Nri and ogwashi people would always refer to themselves as "umu adaigbo"|.I am a proud igbo man no matter the kind of discrimination i face as an igbo man and i still maintain that.If you dont like me because i am an igbo man,then that is solely your problem.It wouldnt make me to deny my roots...NEVER!.It amazes me when igbo people across the niger would deny igbo because they are not located in the south east.That young man should stop being inferior.Thats all i can tell him.you only feel inferior when you make people think you are inferior.EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT AMB.RALPH UWECHUE WHO IS THE PRESIDENT GENERAL OF OHANEZE NDI IGBO IS FROM OGWASHI UKWU.
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 12:04am On Dec 03, 2012
Andre Uweh: Seconded.
When Hausa muslims go on rampage against Ndigbo, Ikas will not be spared. Any attempt to make Ika an ethnic group is a waste of time.
@ANDRE THOSE THAT DENY THEIR IGBONESS ARE THE VOCAL MINORITY.MAJORITY OF WESTERN IGBOS(ANIOMA)KNOW TOO WELL THAT THEY ARE IGBO.LIKE I SAID THOSE THAT DENY IGBO ARE THE VOCAL MINORITY.SO WHEN YOU COME ACROSS ONE,JUST KNOW THAT HE OR SHE IS A VOCAL MINORITY.ESOGBUE AND HIS GROUP ARE THE VOCAL MINORITY.ESOGBUE IN ONE OF HIS MAILS TO ME SAID,YES HE HIS IGBO BUT HAS DECIDED TO CREATE A NEW IDENTITY FOR HIMSELF AND THE PEOPLE OF ANIOMA.I MADE HIM UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS NOT THE SPOKESPERSON OF WESTERN IGBOS(ANIOMA)EVEN THE MAN THAT FORMED THE NAME ANIOMA NEVER SAID HE WASNT IGBO BUT EMEKA AND HIS COLLEAGUES HAVE GONE ON RAMPAGE TO MAKE ANIOMA A NEW ETHNIC GROUP.ESOGBUE,LAURETTA ONOCHIE,GLORIA ELUEBO OPENED A FACEBOOK GROUP PAGE CALLED 'NDI ANIOMA'.WHEN I JOINED THIS FACEBOOK GROUP AND NOTICED THE TYPE OF BIGOTRY GOING ON THERE AND HOW THEY TRY TO BRAINWASH PEOPLE THAT IN THE GROUP,I DIDNT HIDE MY DISGUST TOWARDS THEM AND SO DID OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP BUT TO MY GREATEST SURPRISE,THEY REMOVED AND BLOCKED ME FROM THIS GROUP.NOT JUST ME BUT OTHER GROUP MEMBERS WHO EXPRESSED THEIR DISGUST.ANYBODY WHO IS FROM WESTERN IGBO LAND THAT DOES NOT REASON WITH THEM BECOMES AN ENEMY.IS THIS HOW ITS SUPPOSE TO BE?WILL THEYFORCE PEOPLE TO BECOME BIGOTS??LEAVE THESE PEOPLE,THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY LIKE BUT WE KNOW WHO WE ARE.....IGBO......LIKE I SAID,THOSE THAT DENY IGBO ARE THE VOCAL MINORITY
Culture › Re: Anioma Is An Ethnic Group - Emeka Esogbue by olisaokere(m): 11:39pm On Dec 02, 2012
I have followed Emeka Esogbues blog and write ups for quite some time now and its no surprise he would come up and say Anioma is not igbo with his mentor Dr Kunirum Osia.Kunirum Osia has initiated Esogbue into a Bigot.The truth is that Esogbue and Kunirum Osia can say whatever they like,they cannot drag all western igbos(Anioma)to believe they are not igbos.They are not the mouth piece of Aniomas and cannot be.I am from Aniocha and simply Igbo.All those who buy their idea are the ones who are allowed themselves to be brainwashed.I saw the Ikwerre of Rivers State try to reinvent themselves as an "ethnic nationality." And for 40 years, they failed miserably. Let us not make the same mistake the Ikwerre made just for political expedience. Now the Ikwerre are trying to come back to the bigger Igbo tent after so many years of chicanery and it is tough for them.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:38am On Oct 09, 2012
agbotaen: YOU are just a jester who does not know any thing about owa kingdom and ika except for what you read.
2. how is owa kingship from nri ?
3.let me give you the correct answer the obi of owa has a name called efeizomor and that is definetly a bini name , his father was oboh efeizomr the first , his grand father was obaigbena whose father was okundaiye whose father was igbeoba whose father was oseh , whose father was orhogbua whose father was iseh , whose father was eware whose father was ewodo, these are all bini names or which one concern nri there ?
4. owa kingship is from father to son like the binis , is that an nri system?
5. the crown prince of owa kingdom is solomon efeizomor and he is called edaiken of owa -just like bini ,or is that an nri system and name for a crown prince.
6. every obi of owa is crowned at the uselu -meaning sacred ground just like the bini , or is uselu an igbo or nri word ?
7. owa has three system of chieftancy called ohaimen- the village chiefs, palace chiefs and the hereditory chiefs that goes from father to son and the obi cannot remove the hereditory chiefs or is this an igbo or nri system.
8. the traditional dressing for owa kings and chiefs is same with that of the oba of benin or our beads also from nri ?
9. the obi performs igue and ibiewere festivals and ugbose and ikaba and olokun,idigun -these festivals are from benin .
10. the obi of owa also performs iwagi and ikenga which are from igbo land .
11. the names of titles in owa like ihama, obasogie, obakpolor , esama , ologboshere, ogidigan and others like obaseki are all bini titles with function just like those of benin chiefs.
12. there are also titles in owa that folows igbo line like ogifurueze, obiweanli and others ,they are of lesser importance in owa kingdom and they are recent and not many like those from bini.
13. the praises for the obi of owa is mainly taken from benin mixed with igbo that reflects original ika language as spoken by owa people,
agbogidi iyare ,
ojenebo iyare,
ogiso iyare,
agwo ekirika iyare,
obi ni tor ne i fe
iseh.

14.the daily greetings of owa people still reflect where there original people came from which is bini ,
1.we greet laiwe oooo,
2. we also greet dooo,
3. we also greet oooh,
4. we also greet laiweze but in benin they greet lavbieze
5. we also greet obori .

15. our ancestors believed that GOD was called oselobue or osenobue or is this also an nri word or igbo word ?
16. owa kingdom believes in the doctrine of ehi like bini and we do not believe in chi like igbos ,
17. i will urge all propagandists to do more research on owa and ika history instead of parroting what they read in some one or two books they have read .
18 . i am a full owa/ika man who has done enough research on our history and i know what ika got from igbo and what we got from edo .we are ika people we are not bini and we are not igbo period and i know my ancestory .
19. in ika we are democratic we do not decided for people where they want to belong and ika or owa is a heterogenous entity -we have people who migrated from igbo land, ishan, bini, ora, ukwuani,aniocha, yoruba and others but the beauty is that all these people have over hundred of years merged to form ika.and we do still have some small group of ika people who believe they are igbos , and that is ok for them , but the fact remains that our vast majority just want to be ika ethnic nationality ,and these we have defended from time to time fiercely and won.
20, IF ANY BODY SAYS IKA OR OWA IS FROM NRI OR OWA KINGSHIP IS FROM NRI , LET THE PERSON TELL US IN DETAILS LIKE I DO ABOUT OWA CULTURE AND TRADITIONS AND HOW THEY CAME FROM NRI?it is not enough to say owa kingship is from nri , so which aspect of our kingship is from nri?
Agbotaen,whatever you wrote up here was/is a result of Bini leadership/dominance over you knockheads!.As a sort of liberation,you guys came about the name IKA.All i can tell you is you may be Ika or Shout Ika till next year,what you are is Igbo,igbo man from delta state.However,You may deny being igbo,its not a problem for me cos i am used to hearing such but one thing i certainly know is that not all Ika share the same opinion with you no matter how you fold and unfold your arguments.So in the End,ethnic crisis in ika will continue to loom.One more thing,ika can never be an ethnic group rather its a subgroup of igbo.Please can you tell me the Full names of your OBI OF OWA cos i read where his name was written as "Emmanuel Onyike Efeizomor"(Onyike also a Bini name??)..
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 1:09am On Oct 09, 2012
AGBOTAEN,PLEASE TELL US YOUR OBI OF OWA'S FIRST NAME?
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 3:00pm On Oct 04, 2012
agbotaen: the picture is the recent weeding picture of the obi of owa,s daughter lynn efeizomor ,she is wearing owa traditional dress for the royal ladies and this is also for the royal idumu .this marriage took place in owa-oyibu this year 2012 , and this is in line with bini edo traditions of owa kingdom.so to ascribe only igbo traditions to owa and ika is a fallacy that cannot stand the test of time as owa and ika has both edo and igbo traditions ,thereby forming a unique seperate entity .
2. owa researchers, elders ,and members of our community know and agree that owa was founded by the bini from ikoha in ovia local government in a town called owa-ofien.by adagba and followed by ugbasogun also from benin who founded owa-ekei.
3. irrespective of whatever researchers like professor owuejeogu from ibusa who is also a friend and influence on our obi,because he was instrumental in writing some of his books,but the entire owa people set up a committe called the owa stake holders forum and they set up the history committee and they came out with a book that is very comprehensive on owa history and they found out that edo is more ancient in owa and that adagba led several binis to found owa.but later other people came , this is is well noted in the book tited ndiowa and her monarch.as this is the only book sold in owa royal palace .and this book is what formed the basis for owa website www.ndiowa.com
THIS WHOLE STORY AND BELIEF MAKES YOU SUFFER FROM IDENTITY CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:53pm On Oct 04, 2012
NOW AGBOTAEN>>>>HAVE YOU HEARD OF DR OLOM OKONTAhuhhuhIF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD,HE IS FROM ABGOR.BELOW IS ONE OF HIS COMMENTS IN THE LAST INTERVIEW HE GRANTED.EXCERPTS

Ikaworld: What is your plan for the future?




Dr. Okonta: As the saying goes, man proposes, but God disposes. I believe that man is the arbiter of his own misfortune. I believe in God, but also I believe in man; because man has caused a lot of problems that were not the intention of God. For instance, man caused all the under-development problems all over Nigeria. It was man that turned off light everyday in Nigeria, not God. It was man that left all our roads and structures dilapidated; it was man that looted our treasury to the Swiss Bank; it was man that left our hospitals with incompetent doctors and unsafe environment. The list goes on.



I have several ideas going through my mind regarding what the future holds for me at this point in my life. I have practiced many years as a scholar-practitioner and solved community problems as a Civil Engineer, as a Professor, as a computer Business Owner, and now I would like to give back to the community. By so doing, I would help to solve or at least, to alleviate some of the society-problems enunciated above.



I also would like to point out that I am currently working with Diasporan Organizations such as CISA (Council of Igbo States in the Americas) whose objectives include working with and actualizing the D3 Initiative propounded by Governor Emmanuel Eweta Uduaghan. As humbly as could possibly represent, I would like to report that I was recently (last week) appointed as the DSG (Speaker of the House) in charge of Igbo Assembly in the Diaspora. I am proposing to the Board of Presidents the following Projects this fiscal year (2010):



1. Free Medical Mission to Asaba, Agbor, Onitsha, and Issele-uku.

2. Actualization of the Delta Diasporan Direct (D3) Initiative proposed by Dr. Uduaghan

3. Education, Training and Counseling Mission to Delta and Imo States.



I am humbled and trying my level best to let the Almighty God use my knowledge and experience to alleviate human suffering.


FOR FULL INTERVIEW GO HERE
http://www.ikaworld.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=Glittersamp;Achievers&article=640
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:41pm On Oct 04, 2012
agbotaen: the picture is the recent weeding picture of the obi of owa,s daughter lynn efeizomor ,she is wearing owa traditional dress for the royal ladies and this is also for the royal idumu .this marriage took place in owa-oyibu this year 2012 , and this is in line with bini edo traditions of owa kingdom.so to ascribe only igbo traditions to owa and ika is a fallacy that cannot stand the test of time as owa and ika has both edo and igbo traditions ,thereby forming a unique seperate entity .
2. owa researchers, elders ,and members of our community know and agree that owa was founded by the bini from ikoha in ovia local government in a town called owa-ofien.by adagba and followed by ugbasogun also from benin who founded owa-ekei.
3. irrespective of whatever researchers like professor owuejeogu from ibusa who is also a friend and influence on our obi,because he was instrumental in writing some of his books,but the entire owa people set up a committe called the owa stake holders forum and they set up the history committee and they came out with a book that is very comprehensive on owa history and they found out that edo is more ancient in owa and that adagba led several binis to found owa.but later other people came , this is is well noted in the book tited ndiowa and her monarch.as this is the only book sold in owa royal palace .and this book is what formed the basis for owa website www.ndiowa.com
DO YOU ALSO KNOW THAT LADIES DRESS THIS WAY DURING TRADITIONAL MARRIAGES IN MAINSTREAM IGBO LANDhuh??DOES THAT MAKE THEM BINIShuhhuh
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:39pm On Oct 04, 2012
agbotaen: 1. igbo propagandist who are sepecialists on ika and owa history ,have you researched into the origin of igbos ?
2. some of you believe igbo is from nri, others igbo came from igala , others say igbos came from igbo ukwu because of acheological findings , while others say they came from isreal ,please do more research on your tribe instead of dabling into ika history.
3. when the british came they did not meet any notable royalty in igboland , but right now there are thousands of kings claiming that their throne is 6oo years old , oh igbo people you are never tired of lies and propaganda .
4. why is it that morality and truth is far from most of your people? i remember that during the war when igbos were actually loosing ,their propaganda machine was bussy telling people they are winning.
@@@AGBOTAEN...THIS IS A COMMENT MADE BY YOUR FELLOW IKA IN A IKA FORUM(WEBSITE)

it pisses me off when i see and hear some of my ika compatriots turn simple logic upside down simply to suite an ill-defined preconceived notion.

the names of our villages, fathers, and great-grand fathers, etc. are ibo names. our language is ibo. we communicate even if with some effort with all manner of ibo 'strangers' from anywhere without first having to learn their dialet. we do not speak edo except it is learnt, despite the proximity.

apart from written records, the first and authentic factor that idenfifies a group of people with another group is the language. other historical factors could be distorted for several reasons.

i do not share in this defeatist notion of shamelessly denying our roots. any meaningful gain?

as an ekwuoma man, i am an ibo from delta state, simple.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 2:32pm On Oct 04, 2012
AGBOTAEN,PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FACT YOUR OBI OF OWA WORE BENIN TRADITIONAL REGALIA DURING HIS CORONATION DIDNT MEAN HE IS EDO OR BINI DESCENDANT.ALL THOSE ARE BORROWED CULTURE FROM THE BINIS.REMEMBER THAT THE BRITISH IMPOSED BINI LEADERSHIP TO PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA ESPECIALLY AGBOR WHICH THE PEOPLE DIDNT LIKE.HOWEVER DURING THOSE TIMES,BINI HAD THIS GREAT INFLUENCE WITH THEIR KINGDOM THAT MANY WESTERN IGBO LEADERS WANTED TO HAVE A KINGDOM LIKE THAT OF THE BINI DURING THOSE YEARS AND THAT MADE MANY OBI'S TO VISIT THE BINI KINGDOM TO LEARN THEIR STYLE OF LEADERSHIP.SO WEARING BINI REGALIA DOESNT MEAN THE OBI IS A BINI DESCENDANT.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 4:59pm On Oct 02, 2012
@SONY.....didnt know you are this retarded.What do you know about IDUMU other than what Silly Anti Igbo bigots like you wrote about IDUMU.Maybe you do not know,i have a friend who is from Umunede and he is right here with me as i post this.Idiot he calls you from here!!
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 1:52pm On Sep 27, 2012
One more Thing AGBOTAEN,Following your line of reasoning, are African-Americans Africans? Recall it took African-Americans over 400 years to finally realize that they are actually Africans in America. They struggled with similar ethnic identity conundrum and went through several “name changes” over the centuries, from Negro all the way to Colored”, before it finally dawned on them that if they were to represent who they truly were with a name, the correct name must represent Africans placed in America; hence, “African-Americans.” According to Malcom X, “if a chicken laid eggs in an oven you don’t call the offspring biscuits.”

If African-Americans that traversed the globe hundreds of years ago to an entirely different world can still call themselves Africans, why can’t the IKA or any confused Igbo man that still resides next-door retain his Igbo identity? After all, he still speaks the language and according to ethnographers, language is the premier identifier of a people’s origin and culture.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 1:29pm On Sep 27, 2012
@@@AGBOTAEN....Its rather unfortunate or fortunate that not all ika's think the way yu do.I have a lot of Ika friends who know they are igbo come rain come sunshine and you cannot tell me you dont know about them.However,you can be whatever you want to be but do not generalize what you think of yourself.NOT ALL IKA REASON THE WAY YOU DO AND FOR THAT REASON YOU SHOULD NOT SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRETY OF IKA's.YOUR TYPE ARE THE ONES BRINGING DIVISION TO THE PEOPLE OF IKA.DR KUNIRUM OSIA IS ALSO YOUR TYPE.ALL THESE ANTI IGBO BIGOTS!!!!.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 1:52pm On Sep 19, 2012
agbotaen: 1. most igbo people on this net are just simply ignorant of many things ,the red cap is not for igbo people alone and does not symbolise igbo as many igbnorant igbo will want to believe. the colour of royalty in benin and ika area is red , we call it ododo, and as such many groups in edo and ika wear it ,chiefs in afemai in edo state wear red cap, chiefs and kings in ishan and ika wear it too.
even the idoma people wear red cap , and example is the senate president david mark who is always seen wearing the red cap , or does it mean he is an igbo man ? the answer is no , he is an idoma chief.
2. the greatest benin historian jacob egharevba in his book called a short history of benin written in 1930 says that the eka or ika people are benin people who migrated from benin during the 12th century and the igbos later mixed with them ,thereby causing a language mix or change .
3. all edo websites on the net list ika people as part of the edo group and people who migrated from benin.
4. up till today the bond of brother hood between ika and edo cannever be broken ,although it suffers strain some times an example was when the oba of benin came to owa in the 1990 and owa chiefs and benin chiefs danced a sacred dance called uje with almost the same language with slight variation , there are still some titles in ika land that if you want to take it ,you must go to benin till today to get the authority to be given in some ika kingdoms , in agbor if you want to get the ugbasogun chieftnacy ,you must go to obazagbon nugu in benin to get the native chalk , because the first ugbasogun was from benin.
5. the greatest link between ika and benin is the performance of igue festival done in both kingdoms and our kingship and chieftancy rites.
6. all my life of dealing with the benin they call ika -eka and they differentiate us from igbo , and they know we are relatives , i remeber when i went to ibadan many years ago and i went with some people to visit a benin chief called osazuwa ,i went in a group of yoruba, igbos and others and immediately the man knew i was ika he said ,please come and sit down near me my brother.
7. i have said it that we are ika and we are not igbo and neither are we benin.
8. most igbo propagandist just hate to hear the word benin in ika culture ,but will be very glad if i say ika has only igbo culture and that is a fallacy as ika have both benin and igbo culture , however we are ika.
9.our language is called ika and it is a mix of edo and igbo ,and there are some ika towns in agbor that speak edoic language called ozara.
10. for your information if i speak proper unadulterated owa language you will only hear a little ,as an owa man i do under stand benin too , because in our dialect we have benin in it , it is only that i will not understand every thing ,but i will pick many words , lets say in a sentence i will pick 40 percent , out of 100. because when i go to my friends house i am able to decipher some of the things they a saying because it has same meanings in ika.
11. finally what makes up a nation is not only language ,but their history,culture, traditions , way of life ,dressing, songs and worldview and all these things stands out ika as a seperate ethnic nation ,different from igbo or any other,
1 okenyen ni ri a ghonron no non ikeke , please can some one help me in translating this simple owa dialect ?
2. o ria ghogho ni ukpe oselobue ri a mu
3. me wen asaka me ihien no enina
4. o kere e jen ejejei , ya nu m marin
5. akpamin ke m nedi i ko don me ni m ohunma
6. ulakpa ni lala nii , ke kwondon i ,o bihia kor i
7. a hani me emu ,kor i a kwan nmani .

this is basic owa language and i want any of the igbo person hear to translate this
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Mar 22, 2010 12:10:38 AM, ogenendiigbo@yahoogroups.com wrote:



Attention: Fellow Anioma Indigenes.

Please concentrate on the event of March, 19th as detailed below.

What an interesting REVELATION/INFORMATION from both HRM Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; JP, the Obi Of OWA in Ika North LGA, who is also the incumbent Chairman, Anioma Traditional Rulers Council and HRM Prof. J.C. Edozien CFR; JP,the Azagba Of Asaba/Ahaba both in Anioma, Delta State

I believe that as perfect custodians of our Anioma culture and traditions, our Royal Fathers are in an advantage and better position to educate us more on our Igbo identity, rather than the Osia's among us whose interests are PERSONAL.

Uninformed, unsuspecting and gullible Anioma sons and daughters, especially those in diaspora have been bamboozled by Dr. Kunirum Osia's "Trojan Horse" article on "Who We (Anioma people) Are" . This article which is found in Anioma.org website by Dr. Osia (who has abandoned and severed his relationship with the Anioma Association USA and every Anioma individual, after ending the tenure of office as the Founding Nat'l President, Anioma USA). Osia's poisonous and caustic academic exercise write-up has remained a sour source of reference by some Aniomans in diaspora who believe that whatever our great scholar Kunirum Osia, a PhD holder in Political Science dishes out must be "swallowed"

I Remain a Proud Igboman

Anam/OO
President,CISA



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TRADITIONAL RULERS URGE UNITY AMONG NDIGBO



Sunday March 17, 2010.



On arrival at Sam Mbakwe Airport , Owerri members of Igbo World Assmbly, IWA, ASA World, Council of Igbo States of America , CISA, and European Igbo Council, EIC, drove straight to the residence of the Chairman of South East Traditional Rulers Council, Eze Cletus Ilomuanya, the Obi of Obinugwu..



Eze Ilomuanya and members of the delegation led by Dr. Nwachukwu Anakwenze exchanged views on how Ndigbo associations in the diaspora could be more effective in projecting Ndi-Igbo affairs.



To this end, the delegation and the traditional ruler agreed to reinforce the special communication channel earlier established between the two groups.



Eze Ilomuanya enjoined Ndigbo associations in the diaspora to continue to work for peace and unity among Ndigbo at home and in the diaspora.



The traditional Ruler observed that the two year tenure system for headship of Ndigbo associations at home and abroad was short and inadequate.



He noted that before anyone could settle down in the position, the person’s tenure had run out and “the trend was militating against the ability of the person to be effective in embarking on activities to project Ndi-Igbo.



The Royal Father observed that the conduct of the February 6 gubernatorial election in Anambra state was exemplary and worthy of emulation thoughout the length and breath of Nigeria .



Eze Ilomuanya commended NdiAnambra for making a right choice by re-electing Mr. Obi as Governor of Anambra State adding that Mr. Obi’s election was “akin to putting a round peg in a round hole”.



Thursday March 18





The delegation visited the Imeobi palace of the Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Alfred Achebe, Agbogidi.



The traditional ruler expressed delight at the tremendous improvement of the security situation in the state.





Igwe Achebe, who is the Chairman of the Anambra State Traditional Rulers Council, stressed the need for the State Government and private entrepreneurs to establish more industries in the state to provide employment for the teeming youths of the state.



The Royal Father commended ASA-World and IWA for their role in fostering unity among Ndigbo.



Friday March 19



Two highly placed traditional Rulers in Delta State, the Asagba of Asaba, Professor J.C. Edozien CFR; JP., and the Obi of Owa in Ika North Local Government, Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; JP., have stressed the need for Ndigbo, no matter the geopolitical location in which they are based, to be united in the quest for Ndi-Igbo to again become relevant in Nigeria in particular and the world in general.



Professor Edozien made the remarks when he granted audience to a delegation of IWA, ASA World, CISA and EIC.



The traditional Ruler, a former academician, who received the delegation with a retinue of his fully attired members of cabinet, said that although Asaba people were located in the south south geopolitical zone, “most of my subjects hail from Nteje in Oyi Local Government of Anambra State”.



Professor Edozien noted that "nothing could be achieved by Ndigbo unless unity prevailed among members of the ethnic group irrespective of the geopolitical zone in which they are based”.



He appealed to IWA to work assiduously to resolve the crisis in World Igbo Congress, WIC, and, thereafter "IWA, WIC, ASA World, CISA, EIC and other Ndi-Igbo associations in the diaspora should pool their resources together to uplift the welfare of Ndi-Igbo”.



The Asagba expressed delight over the efforts of IWA, ASA World, CISA and EIC to project, through the museum on Igbo Village to be opened on September 17, 2010 in Stanton , Virginia in the United States of America , the contributions of Ndi-Igbo to one of the major civilizations in modern history.



Friday March 19



On his own part, the Obi of Owa in Ika North Local Government of Delta State, Dr. E.O. Efeizomor II OON; J.P., said that research had traced the origin of Ika people to the Nris of Anambra State.



Dr. Efeizomor II who has been on the throne for fifty years, said that what was significant about the research was that it was conducted by Ika intellectuals.



The traditional Ruler said that although the “Ikas were making spirited efforts to identify and relate with Ndi-Igbos in the South East geopolitical zone, the efforts were not being reciprocated, hence a few Ikas have reservations over their affinity with Ndi-Igbo”.



The Obi of Owa presented to members of the IWA delegation a book to buttress his assertion that Ikas were, according to him, “proud Ndi-Igbo of Nri ancestry”.



Dr. Efeizomor II said that the entire Ika traditional institution was happy to participate in the Igbo Day that was held in Owerri on September 29, 2009 adding that “Ika people look forward to joining our brothers and sisters in taking part in more Ndi-Igbo activities in future”.

Friday March 19, 2010

The traditional ruler of Agulu, HRH Innocent E. Obodowkor expressed delight that Ndigbo were beginning to be united.

Eze Obodowkor said that before the advent of Mr. Peter Obi’s government four years ago, NdiAnambra were behaving like an ethnic group that was cursed but “ I am happy that with the election of one of my subjects to the exalted office in Awka, things have started to change for the better”.

The Anambra Governor is an indigene of Agulu.



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Stories by Chief Tony Idigo J.P.,

Ikolo Aguleri.
Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 1:43pm On Sep 19, 2012
@agbotaen...You are very silly with this Ika this,Ika that statements.You dont speak for the whole of ika people.You can speak for yourself and not generalize your statements okay.
Politics › Re: South-East To Get An Additional State - GEJ by olisaokere(m): 5:04pm On Sep 13, 2012
duality: are you from anioma? you seem so interested in its creation. and why do you want it in the south east.is it because of their language. i think the aniomas have mixed culture looking at it holistically.
@duality,I am from Aniocha South in delta state and with Culture and language anioma should be added to the South East.What you could see in western igbo(anioma)region is a bit borrowed culture from the neighbouring south south state.Thank you
Politics › Re: Anioma Group Congratulates Delta Acting Governor Of Igbo Extraction by olisaokere(m): 6:06pm On Sep 10, 2012
Have you not heard that the Igbanke people are fighting tooth and nail to join delta state or the proposed anioma state?They are heavily marginalized in Edo to the extent that these igbanke people started changing their igbo names to benin names all to survive.When it comes to electioneering period they are heavily used to rig election and so on and when the aim is achieved,these real edo politicians disengage and never remember them because they are not seen as real edo people.The Statement Oba of Benin made about Igbanke people is political.Chukwuemeka Esogbue on his own part used to fight for the unity among igbos in diaspora but lately the quest for anioma state has made him to divert his focus into denying being igbo.His fathers name is chukwudumebi and the father fought for Biafra and grandfathers name is Ozoemezie.Chief (Prof) Augustine Onwuyalim Moses Esogbue is also a member of the family.In December 2010, Esogbue was nominated for the Igbo Legendary Lectures/Awards, which honour Igbo legends who have distinguished themselves and helped to redefine Igbo consciousness and collective aspiration of the people. The awards were held on 29 December 2010 (12.00pm) at Nike Lake Resort Enugu, Enugu State, Nigeria.EMeka is a full blooded Igbo man but i wont be surprised if he decides to become something else.So nobody in the anioma area should speak on behalf of the people as many people in this region know they are pure IGBO.where the problem of identity crisis mainly emanates from those communities sharing same boundary with edo people.some of them are still confused there as not all believe in this benin this,bini that.Thats all politics for you though.

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