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Forza p: BRICKLAYER *covers face*

Forza p: BRICKLAYER *covers face*

agbotaen: 1. the truth is that all nigerian ethnicity is a result of politics and british influence, 200 years ago , there was nothing like igbo tribe, bini tribe, ika tribe, hausa tribe , yoruba tribe or ijaw tribe , but these different people that came together due to some times language similarities, or cultural similarities or political influence did not exist as a tribe , but we had kingdoms, empires, and villages or towns as seperate units , like prior to the coming of white men , owa KINGDOM, EXISTED AS a seperate entity ,but we knew of the existence of other ika people like agbor , umunede and binis, ishans, and aniochas, ndokwas , due to migration, wars, intermarriages and trade , and later we became part of benin empire, and nigerians, and later western region, midwest, bendel and edo state , and so there was no way ika could have been part of old anambra state , because we never had any political allignment with the eastern nigeria.
2. we took a bold stand of who we are in 1930 , when ika elders declared that they were not binis and that they did not belong to any other ethnicity in nigeria , than being ika.
3. we are very proud of being ika ethnic nationality , i can tell it to the whole world , and i am very proud of my ancestory ,
1. ika had great monarchical government , so why should i not be proud , that our ancestors built great kingdoms such as agbor , owa , umunede, and others , like oligie etc, and if igbos feel that monarchy is not good , why is it that all igbo towns and villages now have igwe this and that collecting money from government and using his royal highness or majesty ?
2. agbor kingdom is one of the oldest kingdoms in nigeria with a beggnning in 721 b.c , it was known as ominijie and the capital was orhue , now in agbonta,and our dein of agbor was crowned as the youngest king in the world ,and in my place of birth in owa , our fathers single handedly battled the british almost to a standstill in 1906 , when we killed the assistant district officer of benin , captain crewe reade , and other great strides of ika people , and i am happy being ika , i dont want to be any thing else .
3. like i have always said all ika people did not come from the same place as some came from benin, ishan, ora, igbo, aniocha, ndokwa,yoruba , and other places , but we only acknowledge that most of the towns were founded by binis before others came , and but the greatest influence on ika language and culture came from both benin and igbo , and these makes ika to be a unique culture.
4. when i was born my father told me that we are from the kingly line of owa kingdom and that we are descendants of obi igbegidi,and that our ancestor prince omigie was a benin man , but that owa/ika had gone through lots of changes and now we are ika ethnic nation, and we are proud of it.
5. for most igbo people here , why is it that majority of ika kings and people dont attend any igbo ethnic meeting or their ohaneze ndigbo ? the reason is that ika in majority believe they are not igbos, but we also have few ika people especially from ekwuoma and igbodo who feel they are igbos, and so that is ok with them, but as for majority of ika people we dont want to have any thing to do with igbo , or any other tribe , but we are happy being ika

Afam4eva: I have been to a lot of government parastatals, from NITEL to NEPA to NPF to WAEC to Immigration office and the story is the same. Their staff have a very bad customer service. These people have no regard for human beings. They just speak to people anyhow they like like they own the person's life. There was a day i went to passport office and the way they talked to me, made my self-esteem to drop. Those people are very wicked and bitter lot.

I've always wondered why they're like this. I can understand the NPF to some extent because they're not well paid but i don't think staff of other government parastatls are badly paid. So, what's the source of their bitterness?

Gboliwe: Lol. Men of little faith.

Reminds me of an incident sometime ago. I was travelling to Umuahia from Awka. We were just about leaving when one man shouted from behind 'noooo! It can't happen! Blood of Jesus! and things like that. The next thing he did was to tell us he is seeing blood on the way. Lol. Come and see people diembarking and asking for refund. I said a short prayer and didnt get any negative feedback. The driver insisted on travelling, the transport coy refused refunding their money or changing the bus. We were only 4 that went with the driver to Umuahia and it was one smooth ride

sonya4all: am sure you don't have brains to read and understand...

sonya4all: foolish idiot. So DEIN is now Dee.I don't know why these igbons are fabrication experts.that's How they said EBELE means Ebere.in goodluck Jonathan's name. ewobi. mkpa la ma weh.

ENIMONEY: Mehn!! I so hate this thick short dwarf with bricklayer body..who the hell does he think he is sef

merciie: I suggest they both go for theraphy/counselling, incase it doesn't work, he should leave that marriage before she kills him!
What is sauce for the goose is also for the gander

Adrenaline: theres a very thin line between a normal chic and a prostitute nowadays, so sad

agbotaen: UP COMING IGUE FESTIVAL IN OWA KINGDOM-( obi iselogbe ooo)
1. the clock is ticking ,as this years igue and ibiewere festival will soon be held by his royal majesty-the agbogidi of owa- obi emmanuel efeizomor at owa oyibu,this is about 500 years plus of igue festival in owa kingdom, agbogidi iyare, ojenebo iyare.
2. it is good for owa citizens to come home and witness this great festival that marks the end of the year and begginning of a new year for owa people , it will take place this december
3. we use it to serve the obis head and to pray to oselobue to grant our kingdom and nation peace,and to celebrate sacred dances like uje,ikpema,and others,and to drive evil spirits ojuwu and ighionhai and ubi away ,by the words ubi rie- evil spirits depart,
while the odin masquerade will come out and the shout of iyare will rent the air and the chiefs will carry ada and eben ,while the obi will dress in royal beads and dance to songs like----
obazuaye iyare ooooo,
ojeneebo ni sikiri gba ooooo,
and obi lala iyare.
4. obi ni tor nenyin fe ise,
obi iselogbe oooo( obi happy new year)

agbotaen: 1. my igbo friend , please do not continue in this type of propaganda about civil which occurred in 1966, the ika universal delcaration was in 1930 , when the british counted ika area as benin or part of benin ,when benin chiefs told them ika was founded by benins and part of benin ,so our fathers said they where not part of any known ethnic group in nigeria and that ika was an ethnic group of its own , so it has nothing to do with the civil war.
2. every community and people has the right to decided who they are , and even if the europeans or any body later classified ika as igbo ,we the ika people have the right to say we are not igbos, and that we have done,in delta state , the british initially classified isoko as part of uhrobos , may be because of similarity in language and it took many years but later isoko pulled out and asserted thier isoko as a seperate ethnic group, the point is not what people call you but what do you call your self.
3. no ika person has ever denied that there was igbo migration in to ika area or that some igbo culture existed in ika land ,but it is the igbo people that clearly avoid the fact that ika has a strong benin culture in kingship, way of life, religion, dressing, hair style , system of political culture and ideology and a mix of benin in our language ,but go on saying it is only igbo that founded ika , that is very funny with all the ika people with benin names, and the fact that some parts of ika like ozara and ten other villages and tows speak a language similar to edo or are these villages also igbo ,or should we say they are not ika based on their language,
4. why is it that it is only the igbos that will not let others be and they like claiming any body with their names or certain culture , itsekiri is a mix of yoruba and edo and some of them bear yoruba names, while others bear benin names and their language is a mix of both stroongly yoruba and edo , but they are a different ethnic group and the yorubas are not going on propaganda to say why do the itsekiris not say they are yoruba or the benin saying the same thing, the isoko was merged to uhrobo before but they later pulled out and uhrobo people are not masking noise about it ,and ishan and benin has similarity in language but both are different ethnicities and no noise is made about it by the benins,so why is it difficult for igbo people to know and accept that ika is a seperate ethnic group different from igbo and that majority of ika people will never like to be igbo .
5. currently the people of igbodo kingdom are at logger head with their obi,because he went to marry an ebonyi -igbo woman and the community is saying that an igbo woman cannot give them a heir apparent ,and that he should marry an igbodo woman or an ika or anioma or edo woman ,because that is the tradition in ika land, may be that is a food for thought for many igbo people , please read further on this issue on www.ikaworld.com
igbodo is the most eastern area of ika land and their nearness to predominantly igbo cultural area has influenced their language and way of life and many of the citizen migrated from igboland and they are usually the ikas that say they are igbo and that invariably all ikas are igbo , but this sentiments still persist.
6. the ika people know that they share something with igbo and edo and we can work with these two groups at our advantage ,and it is not by propaganda that the igbos can get ika to work with them ,but by proper understanding of the ika man and respect for his ethnicity that will bring about that , ika people are very sturborn and we can stand our ground , in ancient benin empire it was ika that was always battling benin,and during the british too our fathers went to war against them, and this stand was also proven during the civil war,

agbotaen: 1. mr igbo what do you have to say to igbodo citizens telling their obi that an igbo woman from ebonyi cannot give them a heir and they asked him to marry an igbodo or ika or anioma or edo ? it is simple ,majority of ika people dont believe they are igbo/
2. have you ever wondered why ika did not support igbo during the war , ? it is because majority of ika dont believe they are igbo ,so get that right.
3. yes it is true that some ika people believe they are igbo ,but it is usually some persons from igbodo,and ekwuoma who are near predominantly igbo zones of ika land,
4. why is it that all ika kings and nobles and intelligensia ,are avoiding belonging to ohaneze ndigbo like a plague? it is because they do not believe they are igbos.
5. but many igbos are allowed to hallucinate on ika being igbo ,but i tell you when the chips are down ika nation knows they are ika and not igbo.
6. anioma was created some half a century ago , but the are is made up of four groups the aniocha, ndokwa, oshimili and ika , and ika has built their distinct ethnic nationality as we are following the great declaration of 1930,by our fathers.which clearly identified ika as a seperate ethnic group and i can tell you that over 95 percent of ika people believe and subscribe to the highest pan ika socio group -the ogua/onu ika for the ika ethnic group of which sunday osifo is our current leader ,and the ika elders forum headed by justice ehiwarrior from owa kingdom , and so we do not belong to or believe in ohaneze ndigbo as ika people have taken their destiny in their hands.
7. if all these igbo propagandist will take time to study the declaation of chief osadebe,when they formed anioma , they will find out , it was not to progagate igbo ,but to create a different identity for the people that live in anioma area , as he said that the migratory pattern was from edo,yoruba, igala, igbo and others, and he even said that asaba had migrations from even igala people as well as igbo people , but that is not my business as ASABA people are the only ones that can tell us who they are and they have said they are igbos ,so that is good for them, but as for us we are ika ethnic nationality.

carefreewannabe: I am not a very romantic type so I don't expect it from a man neither.

GEtting flowers EVERY NOW AND THEN is a nice move and can make a woman's day happy but it is not that important.

I think most women prefer a responsible guy to a romantic one but even I, a woman who is not that romantic, likes some flowers SOMETIMES.
I hate being called 10 times a day and receiving 5 txt messages every few hours. Everything in moderation, please

agbotaen: 1. my igbo friend , please do not continue in this type of propaganda about civil which occurred in 1966, the ika universal delcaration was in 1930 , when the british counted ika area as benin or part of benin ,when benin chiefs told them ika was founded by benins and part of benin ,so our fathers said they where not part of any known ethnic group in nigeria and that ika was an ethnic group of its own , so it has nothing to do with the civil war.
2. every community and people has the right to decided who they are , and even if the europeans or any body later classified ika as igbo ,we the ika people have the right to say we are not igbos, and that we have done,in delta state , the british initially classified isoko as part of uhrobos , may be because of similarity in language and it took many years but later isoko pulled out and asserted thier isoko as a seperate ethnic group, the point is not what people call you but what do you call your self.
3. no ika person has ever denied that there was igbo migration in to ika area or that some igbo culture existed in ika land ,but it is the igbo people that clearly avoid the fact that ika has a strong benin culture in kingship, way of life, religion, dressing, hair style , system of political culture and ideology and a mix of benin in our language ,but go on saying it is only igbo that founded ika , that is very funny with all the ika people with benin names, and the fact that some parts of ika like ozara and ten other villages and tows speak a language similar to edo or are these villages also igbo ,or should we say they are not ika based on their language,
4. why is it that it is only the igbos that will not let others be and they like claiming any body with their names or certain culture , itsekiri is a mix of yoruba and edo and some of them bear yoruba names, while others bear benin names and their language is a mix of both stroongly yoruba and edo , but they are a different ethnic group and the yorubas are not going on propaganda to say why do the itsekiris not say they are yoruba or the benin saying the same thing, the isoko was merged to uhrobo before but they later pulled out and uhrobo people are not masking noise about it ,and ishan and benin has similarity in language but both are different ethnicities and no noise is made about it by the benins,so why is it difficult for igbo people to know and accept that ika is a seperate ethnic group different from igbo and that majority of ika people will never like to be igbo .
5. currently the people of igbodo kingdom are at logger head with their obi,because he went to marry an ebonyi -igbo woman and the community is saying that an igbo woman cannot give them a heir apparent ,and that he should marry an igbodo woman or an ika or anioma or edo woman ,because that is the tradition in ika land, may be that is a food for thought for many igbo people , please read further on this issue on www.ikaworld.com
igbodo is the most eastern area of ika land and their nearness to predominantly igbo cultural area has influenced their language and way of life and many of the citizen migrated from igboland and they are usually the ikas that say they are igbo and that invariably all ikas are igbo , but this sentiments still persist.
6. the ika people know that they share something with igbo and edo and we can work with these two groups at our advantage ,and it is not by propaganda that the igbos can get ika to work with them ,but by proper understanding of the ika man and respect for his ethnicity that will bring about that , ika people are very sturborn and we can stand our ground , in ancient benin empire it was ika that was always battling benin,and during the british too our fathers went to war against them, and this stand was also proven during the civil war,

Ournaija: The other day I was discussing with a young man from Ogwashi-Ukwu who was on an industry attache in my coy.He told me he is not Igbo and I asked him where he came from, he said Delta. I asked where in Delta before he confessed Ogwashi-Uku. I quickly added if you are from Ogwashi-Ukwu it means you are an Igbo man. That was when he opened up to me why he choose to be a Delta man instead of an Igbo.

He said he had issues with his Yoruba mates both at home and school. He said he fell in love with a Yoruba girl who is his classmate. He was disgraced the day she took him home. The parents started shouting at her How could you bring Omo-Igbo home as a your husband to be. But the girl tried to explain to them that he is not Omo-Igbo (SE) but a Delta man so that he can be accepted. But the parents insisted that they are all same.

This young man has taken another identity so that he can be accepted by other tribes especially Yorubas by claiming he is a Delta man. I had to correct him to defend his ethnicity even if people don`t accept him. By changing his ethnicity wouldnt make people love him the more. I quickly added that a time will come in Nigeria that people will be judged by who they are and not by where they come from. The civil war did lots of damage to the Igbo people.

For me Igbo ethnic group comprises of different nations/tribes just like other ethnic group.

Andre Uweh: Seconded.
When Hausa muslims go on rampage against Ndigbo, Ikas will not be spared. Any attempt to make Ika an ethnic group is a waste of time.