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[quote author=Idun'oba ehis]If you know Ika culture, ranging from Kingship, Chieftancy titles, dressing, music, dance, worldview, etc. and you are truth, you will admit that we have more similarities with Benin than Igbo apart from language which is very dynamic.[/quote]Download and read in full the pdf file in the link first of all.I am not here to drag with you

[quote author=Idun'oba ehis]I have observed that too. Ika language is closer to Esan than Bini but our culture is pure Bini[/quote]Did you not see the link i posted up there?If you did,you wouldnt say ika culture is pure bini

Lindx93: Dear Ika people of Nairaland...I'm Lynda nd I hail from Agbor Obi,Delta state..Pls I urgently need a detailed history of Ika land,Agbor-Obi.I've searched everywhere for it including google but to no avail. It's an assignment given to me in sch to be submitted as soon as we resume bk nxt year from the ASUU strike nd I really need ur help whoever has it cas I do not want to have a carry over in that particular course.This has given me sleepless nyts..pls come to my aid.Tnks in anticipation.

The link below is a research work done be one of your Kinsman on agbor history.You many find it useful as he gave a detailed account of your community.


http://people.bu.edu/manfredi/Iduuwe.History.pdf

Pharoh: How can Ika be igboid and at the same time still be a dialect of igbo language, the same igbo language that was created by the British colonialist.

Ika is an igboid language that has its own dialects and it is a separate and distinct language on its own so it is never a dialect of igbo language. The created igbo language is an igboid language just like Ika so there is no way that Ika is a dialect of igbo language, it is good that the lectures from the delta thread is sinking into some brains.

Young man just keep shut.Ika is an igbo dialect just like you have other igbo dialects from different igbo communities and states.

agbotaen: what you have simply written is igbo and not ika , and for your information , ika is a language with about 6 variations or dialects and one that is purely edoid called ozara, so if igbos want to learn ika lets know and we will teach you .

IKA IS IGBOID AND A DIALECT OF IGBO WITH LITTLE BORROWED EDO LANGUAGE.!

agbotaen: the difference is that the people in asaba and the areas you mentioned fought and supported biafra 100 percent because they say they are igbo , while ika fully rejected being igbo and majority assisted the nigerian army to chase away the biafrans , so that is the difference .
2. when asaba and environs were massacred by the nigerian army , the ika people were not massacred , so can you see the difference now and if you dont know the history , please ask your igbo relatives that are alive then , olodo

You don carry your ika lies and war stories of ika supporting Nigeria during the civil war come here again??Get your fact rights..The bini people where you claim to come from were the ones that exposed lots of the western igbos living in their communities to the Nigerian army and they killed most of the Ikas in the Bini region?did you not hear the storyEwu Ika

Stupid thread from a SELF INFLICTED IDENTITY CRISIS INDIVIDUAL! who wants to drag all igbos of delta state into its MYOPIC MIND...See how thread is getting no attention?RABBISHHH!!!!!

Pharoh: I don't know why the highlighted facts above always eludes you guys and if there are actually people from Ika nation that claims to igbo then let them come to this thread to defend themselves. Why are people who are not from Ika land so concerned about Ika people, leave the Ikas who claim to be igbos to defend themselves while you mind your business.

That is how someone claim that it is only the ones who deny their igbo identity that you will find on facebook and other created groups. So i ask that if they are in minority then is it not a shame that that the majority who claim to be igbos cannot even create a facebook page and claim that aniomas are igbos. All the groups you see on facebook and all over the internet always claim pro anioma, pro Ika and Pro ndokwa so where is this fathom aniomas that claim to be igbos. Why don't you ask those that claim that they are from anioma and igbos to tell you which online groups they belong to that claim to be igbos.

Stop the obsession with anioma people and let them be, let them decide whatever they want to be and you guys should mind your business seriously. You don't see yoruba people getting obsessed about their brothers in delta, kwara or kogi but it is different from you guys and i just wonder why.

Young man,if you are sincere to yourself you will notice hugely that alot of igbos in delta state who happen to be in these groups still attack those anti igbos that created these pages to the extent that these bigots have known that they cant achieve their aim of making anioma look like not an igbo area.they still maintain and tell them that we are igbos no matter how hard they try to hide the truth.That is why till tomorrow,we call them(bigots) [b]"Loud Minority"[/b]ie "those i no be igbo" peddlers as they go about creating pages to tell people they dont want to be igbos again.majority of us who do not wish to change our igbo identity are not troubled and we go our normal business and associate very well with our kiths and kins in the east and we stay in unity and we all discuss the progress of Igbo is diaspora.I MEAN WHY WOULD I WANT TO START CREATING WEB PAGES ON FACEBOOK TO TELL PEOPLE WE ARE IGBOS WHEN ALREADY WE ARE IGBOS AND NIGERIANS KNOW THAT WE ARE IGBOS AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE??As long as i am concerned PHAROH,you have IDENTITY PROBLEMS AND YOU ARE TROUBLED that is why you and AGBONTAEN will tear yourselves down to disassociate yourself from the igbo world.TRUST ME IF I KNEW YOU IN REAL LIFE,I WILL IGNORE YOU BECAUSE WE DONT REASON ALIKE.What troubles me is all you that claim not to be igbo still name your newborns Igbo names.THIS IS JUST IDENTITY CRISIS AND IT WILL SURELY AFFECT YOU IN LIFE SOMEDAY.

Afam4eva: I used to follow Emeka when he was writing pro-Igbo articles but recently, he resents anything Igbo. You'll hardly hear him mention Igbo in his articles.

I was following him too.but after i noticed he started mingling with bigots and a change in opinion,i forgot about him.

Afam4eva: Are you referring to Emeka Esogbue? What embarrassment was that? I know Emeka has been more into Anioma stuff than Igbo stuff that he used to be pre-occupied with.

Esogbue was pro igbo unity not until he got influenced by the Anti igbo bigots.So i wont be surprised if he comes out to say he is no longer igbo but that wouldnt bother me anyways.For most of us who know who we are cant be influenced and can never deny our Igbo Origin.

Fact still remains that be it Delta Igbo,Igbo,ibo,western igbo,eastern igbo still remains same thing and meaning- IGBO. Delta Igbo was used to actually differentiate Igbos of delta state from other tribes also found in Delta State like the Urhobos,itsekiris,ijaws,isokos..Nowadays a lot of us would love to be referred as Igbos of delta state rather than delta igbo and we are hoping to get our Anioma State soon and leave delta state for good.

Back to Ika and its communities,Every Ika clan have its origin. While that of Agbor is debatable ie the original inhabitants,Owa was largely derived from people who came from Nri which in Ika dialect is called NHI OR IHI. It's true that is Owa Ofie is the aboriginal people of Owa and they came from Benin. But in size Owa Ofie cannot be compared to the people who came from Nri whose descendants dominate Owa Oyibu,Owa Alizomor,Owanta and Owa Alero. Owa Alero originated from migrations from Owa Oyibu and Ute Okpu. The Obi of Owa,HRH Obi Ikechukwu Efeizomor 11 has long emphasized that most of his people are of Nri origin. He stated this his book on community development in Owa kingdom and he topok pictures with the Ezenri in that book. The name Owa is of Igbo origin It means a partition ie a partition from Ute Okpu. In this regard ika people are not different from Nsukka people where monarchies also existed through the inluence from the Igala kingdom.
In the past Nsukka people were not regarded as Igbos because of their unique cultures and languge. In fact Ika is more closer to "Igbo" than Nsukka. Also they bear such Igala names like Asadu,Idoko and Onoja. They have Igala deities. carry Igala tribal marks and have Igala masquerades. They also bear titles of Igala origin. So what is peculiar with Ika perhaps were governed as part of the old Western region. Ute Okpu,Owa and Ute Ogbeje were all part of the same migration from Nri

AGBOTAEN PLEASE TELL ME THE FAMILY YOU BELONG BELOW AND YOUR SALUTATION AS A BINI MAN OR AS A BINI MIGRANTI BELIEVE YOU SHOULD KNOW.I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHICH FAMILY YOU COME FROM

The Benins Family Morning salutation

FAMILY OF SALUTATION

Ogiso Igodo-------------------------------------- Dalaiso
Eweka I------------------------------------- Lamogun
Iyase of Benin--------------------------------- Lavbieze
Oliha of Benin-------------------- Lagole
Edohen of Benin-------------- Latose
Ezomo of Benin---------------- Lagiesan
Ero of Benin ----------------- Lamosun
Eholo-Nire of Benin ----------------- Laire
Oloton of Benin ---------------- Lamehi
Elema of Benin ---------------- Lagbo
Ogiamen of Benin ---------------- Laire
Ogiefa of Benin ---------------- Larendo
Ine N’Igun of Benin---------------- Lani
Osa of Benin ----------------- Laiki
Osuan of Benin ----------------- Labo
Enogie of Ugo N’Iykorhionmwon---------------- Labo
Osenugba Ebo
Odionwere N’Idunmwun-Ebo ----------------- Ebo
Iyase of Udo-----------------------------------Lagiewan
Enogie of Ugo N’Eki---------------- Lakun
Enogie of Ute-------------- Lagite
Ise of Utekon--------------- Laeru
Iyase of Uselu---------------- Layede
Elawure of Usen ------------- Lauhe
Ezima{Ojima} of Okeluhen---------------- Layeru
Enogie of Uvbe--------------------------------Lauvbe
Enogie of Ehor ------------- Ealaeho
Eholor of Igieduma ------------- Laihon
Olokhunmwun ------------- Lagun
Umodu ------------- Lamodu
Emezi ------------ Lamezi
Eni of uzae{Ijare} ------------- Lamore
Aide ------------- Laide
Olomoru -------------- Lamore
Oloke ------------- Laloke
Ughe ----------------- Laughe
Igie ------------------ Laigie
Ugha ------------------- Laugha
Ohennukoni of Evbbiekoi------------------- Laihe
Enogie of Irhue ------------------- Lalu
Enogie of Evbokabua ----------------- Labiuwa

AGBOTAEN,IKA IS NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP.IT IS JUST THE NAME OF YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY FREE TO SAY YOU ARE FROM IKA JUST LIKE ANYBODY CAN SAY HE OR SHE IS FROM AWKA,NSUKKA BUT THESE ARE ALL IGBO TOWNS.STOP BEING DAFT FOR ONCE!

AGBOTAEN PLEASE READ UP A PARTICULAR CULTURE OF THE BINI ON THE WEBPAGE BELOW

http://academic.csuohio.edu/curnowk/curnowk/html/aisien.html


Below is an excerpts in the write up from the Page above.The writer clearly acknowledged bini influence on its neighboring towns.




"Under the influence of Benin, however, neighboring peoples such as the Esan to the immediate north and the Ika Igbo to the east adopted the iwu patterns. The people of Usen, who straddle the Bini-Yoruba border, also emulated this style, but left out the gender-defining mark. Frequent contacts between Benin and Owo, and Benin's influence on the latter, show up in the scarifications on small ivory statuettes from Owo (Fagg & Bassani 1988: fig. 264; Bedaux & Smits 1991;76-77; Ezra 1992:285). The figures display the typical five long abdominal marks; whether they mean the same thing is uncertain. Osugbo (Ogboni) torso markings on some male and female terracota figures from Ijebu (Yoruba) are also like iwu, but the relationship, if any, remains cloudy. "

agbotaen: 1. some igbos should be ashamed of themselves as they dont even know what an igbo word is and what a bini word is , cant you igbos accept that you took some things from benins ? kingship is not practiced in igboland but now every igbo town has an igwe or king , una no de shame and they will say they had it since ancient times.
2. why did majority of ika reject being igbo in 1967 ? why are ika people not part of any igbo ethnic meetings such as ohaneze ndigbo ? un a no de shame , ikas have rejected igbo or being igbo period.
3. if you like continue to fool your self on internet , we don go very far with our activities , moreover if i tell you that my great great great grandfathers name was ovwiagbon , igbos will say it is an igbo word , shame on you igbo propagandists , its not surprising that was how your people were being defeated by nigerian troops but your propaganda machine was saying igbos have killed all nigerian troops , na waooooo ,
4. in ika we know words that are igbo and those that are taken from benin ,
1. ikeke- bycicle
2. egan- prison
3. ulakpa- police
4. eguari- meeting
5. sakpamaghori- great grand child
6. odion- elder
7. odede- old woman
8. ikpanmi- thank you
9. olotu- leader of war
10. ihogbe- scribe
11. ogua- palace
12. ogiso- king
13. bulukun - skirt
14. ada- royal cutlas
15. ogorh- bottle
16. owina- nurse
17. ohue- hunter
18. iheneden - heavy
19. aduaran- giant
20. ayiya- comb
21. aga/agara- chair
23. ighogho - happiness
24. oyo- joy
25. ohai- bachelor
26. oghai oghai - forward
27. itebite- ever lasting life
28. eri- witness
29. onyimiseme- thanks giving
30. ukpe or orukpe - light
31. umbrella - ihiara
32. lake - odhiri
33. ohinmin- big river
35 . eberen - scimitar
36. okpan- plate
37. palm oil - ofungbon
38. needle - oloden
39. ohaimen - chief
40. parrot - okhue
41. nail - ise
42. ihaga- dread locks .
43. human- ihian or ovwan ihian
44. usi- fame
45. ozuor - stupid/foolish person
46. etita- dirty person
47. ogbori- novice
48. coffin - ekpetin -orinmin
49. kettle- agere
50. laiwe- good morning
51. kada - during meal greetings
52. lakpoma- after meals greetings to ones elder .
53. iyare - safe journey/ good tidings
54. domo - greetings to some obis and elders .
55. irehun- sickness
56. igbeorin- dysentry
57- swimmer - ozigue
58. agbon - family / descendant/ generation/ earth .
59. uwe- well being
60. edebiri- a child that stay long in mothers womb
61. ikpade- crystall
62. hill is oke
63. ugbe- family
64. isere- outside
65. ogbe- big or street
66. road - uwaya
67. royal servants - ibiegwa
68. royal guards - nobore
69. native doctor - obuh
70 - chief priest ujobu
71. evil hapenings - idoboro
72. devil - ojuwu
73. to hit - gbe
74.foundation - iyetor
75. it is big - ohi ogbe
76. to be a fool - danozuor
77. fool- obolo
78. wonders - ahima
79. boundary - kaegba
80. ododo- red
81. ojenebo- deified king
82. ogidigan- great person
83. original - eregede
84. real - ketiketi
85. victory - ozegbe
86. ebulebu - good things .
and many more benin words and expressions in ika so we know those words that is in ika language that came from benin and we know those words from igbos in ika language like ----------------------------

1. eka- hand
2. imin- nose , although yorubas call it imu ,
3. onu- mouth , binis call it unu , while yorubas call it enu.
4. eyan- eyes
5. minin-water , although ikas also call some type of water as ame too .
6. okun- fire
7. bia is come
8. wehe- bring
9. umun or omun is children is same with umu in igbo
10. buru- carry .

so we know those words that come from igbo and those that comes from edo in our language , we are not like the average igbo persons that lies and may be out of ignorace say all words are igbo or try to give igbo meanings to every word .
5. as for what umunede means it is a combination of two words as seen in ika language today UMUN IS IGBO FOR CHILDREN AND EDE IS AN ISHAN WORD FOR ELEPHANT, it is not the same with igbo meaning of the word ede.
as today this ika name or word comprisies of both igbo and edo like ehiyem ofe - god gave me freely .or osewuedionma- god is senior , the only word similar to igbo here is wu , which is rendered as bu in many igbo dialects , the full sentence is oselobue wu edionma .
6. okenyeni dodo wehenim okpan ni ri imen agara ri uwaya this is a typical ika sentence and you can see so many things between edo and igbo tied to make a sentence , what was said is , please this man bring me the plate on the chair thats at the roadside .


7. finally ika is ika and we are no other tribe , and we know who we are and we cannot be cowed into an igbo union that is of no benefit and is not even consistent with our ancestors resolve to keep our identity seperate from others

I guess the Sultans,Emirs etc all learned kingship from the Binis


Agbotaen have you read the book "anioma:resolving identity crisis" written by the current Obi of Idumuje Unor, HRH Obi Charles Chukwuweike Anyasi III,?If not please i advise you do so.If you dont know where to get it let me know i can get it across to you or tell you where to get a copy.Please read the book review from Professor Egonwa Below:



By Osas Egonwa

I have gone through this book and am so glad to be associated with the project. I will now proceed to share the author’s ideas as well as mine on the subject matter and you will agree with me that it is something to be proud of. This book, Anioma, Resolving the Identity Crisis, cannot be timelier than now because there has been a lot of identity crises among those who ought to be moving the case for Anioma State. Many of them think that we cannot have an Anioma State or an Anioma people because they believe that they see themselves as coming from other stock. I remember reading something by the late Professor Afigbo. He said that the problem with minorities is that they keep tracing their origins to neighbouring great states. For us Anioma people or Umu Anioma, as the author calls us, it is either that we think we are from Benin because it has a prestigious name, a great history and tradition, they have been known worldwide, or we are from the east because of their number. But whatever the case, the author has tried, using empirical evidence, historical records, not just journalism, not just vain argument but has supported his facts with authentic verifiable and comparable data, supporting his own line of thought.

About a month ago I was present in another Anioma forum to read the paper on behalf of a colleague of mine. There, the paper was saying that we can stay on our own because we have economic viability, enough to guarantee us a state, but the central issue here is not economic viability. We are talking about identity, who are we? This is essential because if you don’t know where you are coming from, or how you see yourself, you cannot determine where you are or the way forward. That is precisely what I have found in this book. I have studied this book and am convinced that the author has been able to prove that we need not have identity crisis as Anioma people.

Yes, some argue that they came from Benin, but we saw what happened during the Nigerian Civil War; our people suffered. Some of us were young but we saw what happened. Some of the important people in our communities were killed and their goods looted in Benin, as the author reminds us, and you say you are from Benin because one of your great grand fathers was a Benin chief or a king who came down from Benin and came to this part of the world with Benin diplomacy and imposed themselves on a community predominantly Igbo before their arrival.

Again, some people don’t want to hear the word Igbo, but why? The author has been able to trace the history of the word Igbo. He discloses that it came from the name Eber, which metamorphosed to Hebrew, Heebo and modified to Ibo or Igbo, all traceable to the Jews. And if you see what the Igbos are suffering in Nigeria, according to the author, not just in Nigeria, but worldwide, you will know that the Igbos are connected with the Jews. It is not just a simple story like that; he showed us history, from the Bible, from historical accounts to show the movement; that they came right from the east to this part of the world and settled down. He also buttressed this with evidences of cultural traits, names, traditions, even their kingship pattern, even of kings going to war. You recall the Bible history of how Israelite kings led their people to war. Yes, as the author narrates, the kings physically led their soldiers to war, they were in front, not just as commanders sitting back and using walkie-talkie to issue commands. And I am very proud that, being a man of God and being a scholar, the author has been able to muster all the evidences to establish what he refers to as a trigonometric relationship between the Hebrews, the Igbos and Umu Anioma. And that is very important, very very important.

Now, someone may be asking; why the Jewish connection? If you are a student of history, it will be clear to you that if you pick up a quarrel with a Jew, the Jew wins easily. Therefore, if we are in any form of challenge with anyone, we are going to win by inheritance. You cannot defeat a Jew, so why don’t we boldly associate with them. It is better for us to associate with that which is good so that we can know where we are heading to. After all, no one answers a name like Ogwumagana (Chameleon) or Idide (Milipede), but you find people bearing Agu (Lion), Eke (python) e.t.c. because they are associated with bravery.

At any rate, the author also made us to understand that he is not trying to advocate a re-gathering of the Jews scattered all over the place and migrated to our present place, as it is not necessary.

Talking about the Igbo connection, if you say you don’t like the word Igbo because it has acquired some derogatory terms, don’t worry about it. If your name acquires derogatory status, it is your duty to find out why. Whatever you call something that is what it is for you. If your Igbo is derogatory, it is because you called it so.

Research has shown that Igbo means nothing but People, signified by such names as Igbo Ukwu (People of Great Community), Igbo Uzor (People living by the Highway) Igboafugo (People have seen), Igbo Egbunam (May the people not kill me). It is also probable that some of the communities in the west with Igbo names are people who migrated from Igbo land, dwelt in the west and later moved away. So why are people afraid to be associated with Igbo?

There was the issue of the slave trade, which the author also referred to; a period when slaves were referred to as Igbo, but that is not what the author is talking about here. We are talking about people who live in a community.

The fundamental question is; who are we, the Anioma people? The author has tried very much to use so many instances to plot the map and establish that it is better for us to realise that our origin is connected more to the east than the west. Some communities in Anioma do not want to hear the name Igbo, but that should not be so, especially if you consider their first names, community names, culture and language.
If you say we are Edos, how about Igbanke? Ozanobodo is even there, and what about Abavo? These are Ika people and Ika is in Anioma. There are so many things we ought to know so that we can stand our ground in proclaiming that we are Anioma.

He looked at some of the clans like the Ubulus, the Ndokwa and the Ezechimas and showed very well us how these people are connected with the Jews. He even went into such issues as physical immortality and all that, which is quite philosophical and almost esoterical, but they are needed. That is why I say that this book is not just a book of history or advocacy. It is a book of philosophy, things you ought to know.

The worship style of our people is also connected with the Nri. Of course you know that Nri is a source where most of our people came from. The Ogwashi Ukwu people came from there. They were originally called Ogwanshi but over there, they call them Nri. And the ruling families are actually from there, with their relations and all that. And you find that in Igboland, the Nri people are the Levites who cleanse the land. We were also told that they sold iron spearheads; they were blacksmiths, and traded as they went along doing their ritual or legal functions. And you find that our people here also follow the same Levitical structure in our worship and so on and so forth. However, the author did not fail to tell us also that modern influences have eroded these Jewish influences because the Jews who practiced Judaism stood for one man one wife, but later, that culture was polluted. Not that we don’t have records of those who married multiple wives. We saw the case of Solomon, but we saw what happened to him, even David, a man after God’s h[b]eart. We also saw what happened to him as a result of multiple wives. So, he is trying to use all these evidences to show who we are, where we came from and where we should be going.[/b]

[b]We have the Chima story for instance. The Chima story is very important. But some Ika people refer to him as Ikime or Kime or whatever, because they don’t want to identify with the Igbo. But how can it be that a strong Igbo man that travelled to Edo land remained an Igbo? Of course, the author reminds us that the Igbo race witnessed an era of native doctors who undertook pilgrimages called mbia. History has established that, at some point, there was a movement around the 16th Century of people from the east who moved up. And we have traditions in our own Anioma area which show that native doctors usually actually undertook the mbia trips. So, it is very likely that Chima, being a very good native doctor, was retained by the Oba, with whom he nurtured a relationship. However, in their relationship, some disagreement arose. Of course, when you are a stranger in a place, you are a stranger. In fact, there were wars, and these wars caused the migration of Chima and his people, eventually referred to as Ezechima. These facts have been thoroughly established in this book.[/b]


EXCERPTS ENDS

Please take note of the highlighted.This is a book written by the Current Obi Of Idumuje Unor. He also boldly disabuses the minds of those who have, for long, peddled the Anioma / Edo ancestral link. This book presents an assertive triogonometric perspective of Anioma / Igbo / Jewish link for a majority of Anioma people, It is also a great eye-opener to many young Anioma youths on some of the fading Anioma myths, customs and tradition. The story is told, vintage Charles Anyasi, with the simplicity, authority and candour of a home-bred Prince and key player in the Anioma project.

barbiebola: To all my Ika people, Alua Ni o! Please what is the Ika (not Ibo) culture regarding omugwo? Is it the husbands mother that is responsible for omugwo or the wife's mother? Abeg my people make una respond o!

Where this one from come again?Omugwo no get name for Ika abi bini?

pokur: Ebo and ogbe are not Igbo words?.Dude,u drunk or something?.You can keep dissociating yourself from your Igbo kin if u like,but don't spread such falsehood here again.

Dont mind the Dude.Agbotaen has totally gone nutts!

And for your second link,Guess Mr Okecha has become the spokes man of Ndokwa.Make i hear word joor

Pharoh: Anioma origin and identity settled here in this link . .

http://www.aniomavoice.org/78-about-anioma-categ/8-origin-of-the-people

This is for ukwuani people

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ndokwa-the-people-and-their-burden/81676/

Thats a stupid write up pioneered by people who have self inflicted Identity crisis like you as we know that all online anioma groups are operated by those with Identity Crisis.the writer or contributors have seen probably how impossible it would be to label ANIOMA as non igbo,hence they came up with this write up to suite their stand.However,According to the write up,the writer acknowledged that ANIOMAS ARE IGBO,(excerpts:While we do not have to start breaking each community down by telling their ancestral origin, we want to admit that some communities in the present entity referred to as DELTA NORTH SENATORIAL ZONE, otherwise known as ANIOMA are IGBOS,which should not be in doubt).In order to also please some people like you with self identity crisis the write had to make mention of other communities with different ancestral origin[b](excerpts:we also want to use same proof to state that "some" of the communities also are BINIS,IGALAS,ISOKOS AND URHOBOS.)[/b]But however what we cannot accept is these immigrants or slaves from Bini like you PHAROH AND ABGOTAEN coming to portray ANIOMA as not an IGBO NATION.In Anambra state,there is about 9% Igala population and they are under Anambra state and they have not come to make Anambra look like NON IGBO STATE....Those that say they migrated from bini have failed to know that what they have is just an Oral Account and not a documented account of their migration.For a group of Bini Migrants/Slaves claiming to have found a town and lose their language is simply a HOAX.No Ika man speak Bini other than the one learnt.In Edo state,we have an Igbo town called IGBANKE which happened to be located in edo state during state creation.Now this people are marginalized because Edo state and its people do not see them as one of their own and that is the reason why this community wants to join back their kin and kiths in the proposed Anioma State.AND YOU STILL COME TO TELL ME THAT YOU MIGRATED FROM BINI.why are they not fighting for a relevance in the EDO State if they truly belong there.

The name ANIOMA is basically for Political purpose as the writer acknowledged but the writer with his narrow vision of political relevance all to suit interests of some people with this identity crisis have come to group communities in this ANIOMA and what they should be addressed as (Excerpts:We want to further state that,rather than address any part of this DELTA NORTH SENATORIAL ZONE entity as igbo,ukwuani or ika that we have acknowledged that we have namely: Igbos of Anioma, Ikas of Anioma, Ukwuanis of Anioma.For the communities that originated from IGBO, we shall prefer that they are addressed as The Igbos of Anioma, likewise the Ikas of Anioma and Ukwuanis of Anioma. ANIOMA SHALL REMAIN OUR COMPOUND NAME AND THE ONLY NAME WE WISH TO BE COLLECTIVELY ADDRESSED WITH.)

The writer have failed to point that not all ikas,ukwuanis have identity crisis so this whole thing is a complete waste of time.

Pharoh: ^^

Have seen any Anioma person here on this thread expressing his or her desire to join the Benin Kingdom?, we have always stated our ethnic identity here and where we belong to so keep on deluding yourself.



Please provide documented evidence for each of your claim . . .the joke is on you if you don't know.

But then Anioma is not an Ethnic Group neither Ika is.Try to get that into your brains for once!

Pharoh: ^^

Answer the damn question instead of bringing this your tired example of your wife over and over again.



No one is forcing Anioma on you so you can kindly cross over to the other side and join whoever you deem it fit are your brothers and sisters. You can't be this stupid to be asking me what Anioma is after 103 pages of discussion on this thread. So why not go back from page one and read up, little uncultured kids are the ones who throw up meaningless insult everywhere so grow up little fool.

NO YOU ARE WRONG PAHROH,YOU SHOULD JUMP OVER TO BINI KINGDOM.I AM SURE YOU WILL BE ACCEPTED THERE.

tonychristopher: nwanne na ogo m nwoke its well with you my brother and you have spoken well....i am begining to view people with name agbontea as slimmy...got a cv bearing such a name in my office email...i wondered if this agbontea aapplying for job will have dimentia and disillusioned like the virtual agbontea on nairaland....I wish this and that agbonteanu luck .this on his path to perdition that on his path to occupation

word of advise...never play ostrich....assuming that all is well that seems well. take a walk to urhobo,ishans,ijaw and other micro tribes ask them which tribe is agbo....even my collegue was yabbing me yesterday that when he was in ploy that igbos don't eat with meat...I asked him which part of igbo he said agbor part. this is an urhobo man telling me this yesterday...I told him in igboland cultures varies..I never dissociated myself from non eating meat in a food. this was a ploy in auchi.....so agbontea do you see how they view you


WELL YOUR TYPE IS CLASSIFIED AS CLASSIC IDENTITY CRISIS AND WE KNOW AND HAVE SEEN YOUR TYPE BEFORE.....I WILL TELL OBA OF BENIN THE MAN THEY WORSHIP TO GIVE YOU A BLACK CARPET RECEPTION...THEIR LOST SOUL AND FUGITIVE ONE IS BACK

LOL

"I WILL TELL OBA OF BENIN THE MAN THEY WORSHIP TO GIVE YOU A BLACK CARPET RECEPTION...THEIR LOST SOUL AND FUGITIVE ONE IS BACK "......ROTFLMAO!...Yea Agbotean and his group should retrace back to benin kingdom and stop bringing confusion for us....WHOEVER THAT DENIES BEING IGBO WHEN EVERY TRAIT ABOUT THAT PERSON READS IGBO AND YET DENIES IT SERIOUSLY NEEDS A REHABILITATION!

agbotaen: 1. when ika people bear surnames like osagie, jegbefume, ovwiagbon, buzugbe, idabor , osahon, osuhon, iyeoba, ekoragbon, ikpekutu, ahagbon, idiaye, edaiken, ehiabor, omoruwa, okonfua. aimonagbone, odigie , omojafor, ovia, irabor, irubor , obaigbena, okundaye, ewodo, ewuare, and others and you think these are igbo names then you must be joking , and a jester and these are our family names , yes ika people some times answer ikenchuku but if you look back to their grandfather you will meet with a benin name,
2. ika people perfome festivals like igue , ibiewere , ikaba, ovia, ogbanigbe, and erha-obi festivals and you still think they are purely igbo , then you must be a village jester .
3. ika villages are divided into ebon, idumu and ogbe and you still think they are purely igbo, then you must be a village jester,
4. ika people traditionally woship olokun , ogun/idigun, ohunweden, ovia, ake, idinwina , ogile, ikpai, jagbozi, ehi, which comes from edo areas , and we also worship ikenga , and ifejiokun that comes from igbo land , and with all these practices , if you still think ikas are pure igbos then you are just a jester from igbo land.
5. our kingship or obiship has a crown prince called edaiken , and three types of chiefs , 1. hereditory 2. town chiefs and 3, palace chiefs , that predominantly goes with edo names like up to 95 percent of the titles like esama, obawunje, orokonagbe, ologboshere ,and lots more with only about 5 percent being igbo titles , if you still think ika is purely igbo then you must be an igbo jester.
6. ika has two languages called ozara and ika , but ika is spoken by majority and in our language we have words that are from both edo and igbo languages , and if you still think ika is purely igbo then you are a jester .
7. ika people in their majority have avoided igbo people by not joining or attending any of their ohaneze meetings or igbo ethnic meetings and rather ika has formed their ogua/onu ika and if you still think ika is igbo then you are a jester .
8. if majority of ika people also declared that they are not igbos in biafra -nigeria civil war , and you still think ikas are igbos then you must be an igbo jester.
finally ika have been independent of any tribe

You are just beating around the bush and trying to bring up things that makes Ika look not to be igbo but you have failed and will continue to fail in your efforts.Go to arochukwu and you will definitely see Arochukwu people whose bear ibibio and efik as surnames and yet never would they deny being igbo,when you look at their culture even that of ohafia,one will end up asking if these people are igbo but yet they are and they have never ever denied being igbo and will never do that.Even their languages dont sound much like igbo but then its igbo and they never tried to make their language look like an ethnic language.SORRY AGBOTAEN YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM SELF INFLICTED IDENTITY CRISIS.I am proudly Igbo from OGWASHI UKU,ANIOCHA SOUTH,DELTA STATE AND A LOT OF MY PEOPLE DONT THINK OTHERWISE..

[quote author=One_Naira]Don't mind them. Osadebe created a word and this people shouting it's an ethnic group. I don't know whose been giving yaba left patients laptop but whoever it is needs to be slapped.

I don't agree with your believes on anioma, I see anioma as something to call myself but I ain't stupid enough to think it's an ethnic group. Igbo na my tribe, anioma na nickname created by osadebe.

Whoever out there giving yaba left patients laptop, see wetin you dey cause. you see am?[/quote]DONT MIND THEM.I HAVE TOLD THEM SEVERAL TIMES THAT ANIOMA IS NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP BUT A NAME COIN OUT FOR ALL THE IGBOS OF DELTA STATE BUT NOW THE BIGOTS WANTS TO MAKE IT AN ETHNIC GROUP BUT WE KNOW WHO WE ARE,IGBO AND NOTHING SHORT OF IT!

[quote author=Idun'oba ehis]It's only about 30% of Asaba, Ibusa and Ogwashi Uku that say they are Igbo while another 30% are convinced they are not igbo. The remaining % are indifferent. As am typing this comment am in Asaba and many of my friends in Asaba are from Aniocha/Oshimili and many of them say they are not igbo. You say we should stop speaking for Ika, while you are speaking for Asab/Ogwashi. Infact, I have seen and read many interviews granted some Aniocha/Oshimili elite, some say they are igbo while some say they are not; some are not even happy with Uwechue. So, while generalise that all Aniocha/Oshimili accept they are igbos. I knw that Anioma has some level of affinity with Igbo but that doesnt mean we are Igbos.[/quote]@Idun'oba ehis,What are you talking about?Do you know that i am from Ogwashi ukwu and currently in my village for a project?Please if you dont know what you talk about,i suggest you just shut up.Igbos of delta state are pure igbos.the name Anioma came up to bring together all igbos in delta state and to differentiate from other ethnic groups in delta state like ijaw,urhoba etc.By right,the name anioma is not an ethnic group and the founder of the name olisadebe didnt say so but rather for political convenience.However,some of the bigots and loud bigots at that are trying to make it look like anioma isn't igbo but they have failed and would continue to fail.this is because majority of igbos in delta state know they are igbos and not willing to change their identity.This bigots have brought a discord within the anioma region as our people who know they are full blooded igbo have refused the bigots to change our identity.Now we are shouting for a new Anioma state to be created as the next igbo state and what makes us think that people like Agbotaen and other people of his like with self inflicted Identity Crises wont come out tomorrow to shout that they want Ika State because he doesnt want to be igbo?PLEASE YOU BIGOTS SHOULD STOP MAKING THINGS DIFFICULT FOR US IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!

"THIS IS AN ARTICLE BY ONU IKA, ON THEIR ANNUAL LECTURES , AND THE WAY MAJORITY OF IKA PEOPLE AND OUR INTELLIGENSIA ,THINK OF IKA , AND SO IF IGBO PEOPLE ARE STILL DELUDING THEM SELVES THAT IKA IS IGBO , WELL GOOD LUCK TO THEM , BUT WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN , THEY WILL BE VERY DISSAPPOINTED"

When the chips are down,Agbotaen will be disappointed.All the publishers or members of Onu Ika will turn around to proudly claim their igbo heritage or do you think the hausas,yourubas, and other tribes see you differently other than igboDo you also think they will spare you when the stakes are high?Abeg make i hear something!..Wish i knew you Agbotaen,irrespective of the fact that i am from Aniocha South,I would discriminate against you cos your ideas are just silly!.You and your kinds are the people setting us back in our Igbo speaking part of delta.I have met your type before and i was almost crucified for being a proud igbo man

dont8: In the meantime, Deji's friend was lucky not to board the ill-fated airline


I narrowly missed the flight – Deji Falae’s friend
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Kunle Rotimi-Akodu



KUNLE Rotimi-Akodu, a friend to Deji Falae, one of the victims of the ill-fated chartered flight that crashed in Lagos on Thursday, said he had been feeling disappointed to have missed the flight before receiving the news of the incident.

Rotimi-Akodu said he was meant to be with his friend, Deji, who was a commissioner in Ondo State, in the Associated Airlines plane for the Lagos to Akure journey but that he providentially got to his friend’s house late and missed the flight.

He was in tears at the crash site on Thursday.

He told our correspondent, “My last encounter with him was on the phone. We spoke about how we could meet and he told me that he had some official duties, especially the funeral programme of the former governor of their state. So, we planned to meet in Lagos. We still spoke on Tuesday and he said he would be in Lagos.

“We were supposed to see but unfortunately I couldn’t make it. I called him and he said I should join him today so that we would return to Akure together on the same plane that crashed. He said I should make haste to meet up, but I had an emergency issue to resolve.

“By the time I actually got to his house, the housemaid told me he had left and the wife had left home too.

“The housemaid said, ‘Oga just left, he said you should find your way to Akure.’

I felt disappointed for him to have done that, but because of the kind of person he was, I began to plan my trip to Akure to meet him and incidentally, I learnt that a plane crashed as I wanted to leave home and that Deji was also involved in the accident.

“I was dumb-founded when I heard. I looked up in my room and saw the catalogue of pictures we took together and tears began to drop from my eyes. I looked at the text messages we shared and began to picture myself being with him in the plane because that was the initial arrangement, if not that I was a bit late to join him.

“Honestly, it is still like a dream. I don’t want to believe Deji is dead. I believe he is alive and he is still going to live his normal life. We have lived together for years in Dolphin Estate. I have known him for over 15 years, when he was still studying in University of Ife. We have always been close since late 80s.”

Someone will always come up to publish how he/she narrowly escaped death after an aircraft disaster!...RIP to the dead!

Stealing from the dead!!!!...Odikwa very risky Oh

THIS YOUNG MAN MUST BE HIGH ON SOME CRACK.

FlirtyKaren: The pretty Nollywood actress donned this outfit to the Miss Earth beauty peagant that held last night.
So lovely Chanel bag. Costs a whooping $10k - N1.58million!!

http://www.lailasblog.com/2013/09/ini-edos-outfit-to-miss-earth-nigeria.html

So we should hug a transformer because she got in her possession a $10K Chanel bagRabbish

[quote author=Idun'oba ehis]Why ard the igbos always claiming anything good.
I just finished reading an article in punch online by one Azuka Onwuka. He was decrying Dangote's not siting any of his factory in Igbo land, and his not having a single investment in the east - which is ok. He went further to say that, Dangote has the same business acumen with the Igbos hence he must have an igbo blood in him. So, he suggested that he shuld go for a DNA. He also said that Dangote is an Igbo name and that it means "di anyi gote" please come and buy in english. from my experience with igbos in real life and online, i know the igbos are all like this writer, Azuka.
So my question to you igbos is this:
1. Why are you always claiming anything good? You alway think that once something is good, then it must be from you; nobody else is capable of doing anything good except you.
2. Why do you always ascribe igbo meanings to any word/phrase even when it's in anoda language.
3. Why are you the one that is always crying of marginalisation.
THE ANSWER IS, YOU ARE PARANOIED AND AT THE SAME TIME SUFFERING FROM INFERIOTY COMPLEX. YOU ARE ALSO SUFFERING FROM DELUSION De GRANDEUR.[/quote]Oh Boy,i think you are the one who is paranoid and suffering from Inferiority complex.I mean it is written all over you.Your speeches,write ups and all.Please just shut your trap boy!

Caracta: No. But personally, I find it disgusting!

Especially those ones that dont give much space round the neck with pendants!..