₦airaland Forum

Melison:
U and who dey counter comments,wetin i wan even tell this mumu sef,that a post was made and restricted people from freely commenting unless they swear that they are muslims?? Are u sensible at all?? Didnt u see Jesus christ on the post too?? Wch makes it paramount that the thread should allow discussions From all kinds of people but u are here spewing rubbish,bro just get off my mention!

Are you brain dead, what kind of mosquito brain do you have at all? What does whatever about swearing has to do with Muslims? Are they the ones moderating Nairaland? You guys are just bunch of bigoted, hypocritical lost souls

Melison:
See odeh

Why don't you counter my comment with a superior argument and prove that you aren't the odeh

demmisab85:
Your understanding is so narrow, Islam apologist like yourself can't defend what i wrote earlier with full narrations (that is just a very small fraction of my knowledge of your shithole quran and useless hadiths). All you could do in selfless defence was to rambled and put an image from bible passages without narration. Anyway you are not in my league when It comes to religion arguments, Most of your so called dumb immans have rendered them speechless times without number. Foolish Wahalism doctrine believers.

Your understanding is so myopic, Christianity apologist like yourself can't defence what j wrote with full narrations. You need to know that's just a tiny bit of what I know about your devilish religion filled with bigotry and hatred causing terrorism in the whole world which resulted to destruction of countries because your jesus demands for blood always and his christian terrorists had to obey his instructions hence the invasion of Libya, Syria, Iraq et al.

They didn't stop there, they further created terrorist groups, arm them and claim they are fighting them. You should be ashamed of your religion, the same religion that jesus was happy when Cain killed Abel, protected him till he married his sister and blessed him with a city.

williamsdon:
Ramblings of an ignorant man.
You cant even prove it.

So the verses I attached aren't prove enough?
The previous images aren't enought too?

Keep deceiving yourself while wallowing in ignorance

demmisab85:
You might be interested to know the facts that your so called Holy book whic is quran is the most violent religious books in the world. And Islam itself is a violent religion of war from its inception even MOHAMMED himself gives Jihad notions on his dying bed.

(Q2:256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion.
(Q2:190) Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
This murderous ayah is PROOF of Allah commanding conversion of pagans by the sword. It should be noted here that Meccans weren't fighting Muhammad: they were merely resisting his authority and/or violating the terms of a treaty: they weren't 'getting with the program', so to speak. Attacking and killing them directly violates the Quranic injunction against fighting except in self defense. And since the goal is to convert or kill pagans, it also violates the Quranic injunction against compulsion in religion. This is an example of abrogation: a later revelation contradicting earlier ones. In essence, the clear, perfect, immutable, inerrant Quran contradicts itself: Allah changed his omniscient mind.

Now, I ask you, which is more likely:

Allah, the perfect embodiment of truth, abrogated his own clear, perfect, immutable, inerrant Quran?
Muhammad, a mere mortal man, needed the doctrine of abrogation to excuse the contradictions that accompanied his transformation of the Hijaz into the world's first Islamic state? He transformed from a persecuted prophet into a persecuting warlord and need the revelation or abrogation () that fit his new circumstances.
Common sense tells us that Muhammad conjured 'revelations' as suited his needs and ascribed them to Allah. Even Aisha teased Muhammad about the convenient timing and content of his 'revelations':

I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.

The remaining citations are added for good measure. Check them out if you like.

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land."

What can be said about that?!? It’s just plain barbaric.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

This revelation comes after Muhammad moved to Medina and was gaining power. Is this a man of peace and tolerance or is this a man bent on forced conversions – despite previous revelations (in Mecca) that claim there should be no coercion in religion?

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna and religion should be only for Allah"

‘Fitna’ is disbelief. This is yet another ayah in which power has gone to Muhammad’s head and prior injunctions for self-defense and no coercion in religion go out the window.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

This comes from one of the last suwar in the Quran. Does this sound like a representative of God to you? Waging war against Allah and His messenger is NOT actual violence and attacks (as in a real war), it’s 'making mischief in the land': disrespecting Allah, Islam, the Quran and/or Muhammad. To this day, such disrespect is all the warrant needed for violent retaliation. Charlie Hebdo, anybody?

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Muhammad is trying to get his followers on board with his plan to raid caravans for camels and booty. The ‘back story’ here is that Muhammad and his followers were impoverished because the possessions they left behind, in Mecca, when they moved to Medina, were confiscated by the Meccans. You can see that the men are, at least initially, reticent to risk their lives (caravans were accompanied by armed fighters, for protection from robbers). Indeed, their first few attempts to raid caravans failed, probably because of their reticence.

Also note that raiding caravans is an offensive, not defensive, operation . . . contrary to what the Quran preaches.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

This is one of the last revelations from Muhammad. Note that believers aren’t being told to fight in self defense. They’re being told to fight unbelievers because they don’t believe (are resisting Islam). Also notice that dhimma (which demands jizya tribute tax) had already been instituted by Muhammad

It .If It interest you to know that Christianity is the pioneer of terrorism and bigotry. The bible is a terrorist manual and jesus is full of sh*t

williamsdon:
Christianity hasnt done anything to warrant my hatred.
Islam however is majorly a terrorist organization.

really?

You see how Christian god is directing Chrisitians go destroy countries. He also instructed then to fund terrorist organisations like Al Qeada which turned into ISIS. You see that Christianity is a terrorist religion and organisation.

williamsdon:
Christianity hasnt done anything to warrant my hatred.
Islam however is majorly a terrorist organization.

really?

You see how Christian god is directing Chrisitians go destroy countries. He also instructed then to fund terrorist organisations like Al Qeada which turned into ISIS. You see that Christianity is a terrorist religion and organisation.

williamsdon:
Religion of peace indeed.
Islam is a plaque to mankind.
I hate the religion(not the people) like die.

You should also hate Christianity and if you don't then you are the biggest hypocrite

marttol:
Jesus is alive in the realm of the spirit... His name make powers and principalities tremble... He is the spirit of the prophets... Get appears to his prophet, he speaks to them.

Yet Christians die like chickens in churches ,on the way and after leaving.

Btw, you didn't answer the questions asked

AfonjaSlaves:
do you actually hear urself... well i blame that paedophile that copied everything from Christ after 300yrs of his first coming... how can one lunatic claim to receive prophecy under influence of cow dung and Arabian Bit**ches

Is it different from your cave gods that protects terrorist, pheadolphies, killers and criminals

SpecialAdviser:
This is exactly your trademark in your false religion. You hate to respect peoples belief but complain when people insult your religion.

Don't just throw me bomb Terrorist.

You are a terrorist Mr. You and your likes, a thread hit the front page about a religion. Who attacked Islam? Who initiated this mess? Who?

Speaking of false religion, is Is one that has three gods? The one practicing polytheism.

AntiIPOB:
look at this terrorist,who told you the above mentioned are christians?,
so it is mhd that told you to be suicide bombers and get married to kids?

Didn't Jesus you to kill unbelievers? How are those not Christians Mr terrorist ?

BruncleZuma:
Op nah donkey make dem buy? Who Sabi them...you never hear sell phone buy simcard before ni?

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Isn't this bow-wow?

WithX:
I'm sure you must be an educated fellow you commented either out of ignorance or hatred. Have u ever called any of ur friends or relatives in those schools to confirm such assertion?
I knew the clergyman was on a mission the moment I saw Bayero University Kano on his list. Presently I am a student of the school and I can confirm to you that Christians in the school do not only have place of worship they have a voice.
They have a central fellowship ( which even have a hummer bus) and there are fellowship for denomination as well.
Pls always take a minute to verify any thing you ready before u post your comment

The logic in Nairaland is, portray Islam or Muslims in a bad light and expect them to come in full ammos to attack anything and everything about the faith. The same people would never say a word when theirs are called on. The bigotry in the North is the same in the East but it's okay if they do so whilst it's wrong to be done in the North

Agritech:
Also there are many Universities in the east and South south where there are no mosques for the Muslim students to pray. One of such is Michael Opara university of agricultural. In this universities lecture/exams hold during time for Muslim Friday prayers.

Dont mind them. Hypocrisy, sentiment and bigotry runs in their blood. They want the world to be about them only while playing victim cards

Acjohn:
Forget that thing. Every day we here of killing of Christains if you are not a Muslim you are an unbeliever.
Can you allow you child as a Muslim to Marry a Christian, the answer is no.

Don't allow anybody deceive you, the truth is Muslims hate Christians because the see them as their only obstacles on their mission to islamize the world

Everyday we hear of Christians killing Muslims.
The Christian god told Bush to destroy a Muslims country Iraq
The christian god told Obama to destroy a Muslim country Libya
The christian god told Hilary Clinton and her cohorts to destroy a Muslim country Syria.

All these because Christians hate Muslims, they seem them as obstacles to chrisnise the world hence they want to destroy the niddle east first which comprises of mostly Muslim countries

Fatherofdragons:
Really?

Really??

AfonjaSlaves:
anywhere I heard Islam one thing came to my mind... terrorism, illiteracy, paedophile, backwardness... etc

Islam came after Christianity. Whatever Islam does, Christianity is the pioneer and they are glad about that.

AfonjaSlaves:
I blame Abraham he would have been observation and apply withdrawing method , we wouldn't have been in this mess, Ismael bas***tard son of Abraham begot that Arabian terrorist , the crusaders and architect of terrorism... Ismael e no go better for him

Before you blame Abraham, blame his god called jesus that brought terrorism into this world. He is the architect of it all from the days of Cain who killed abel and jesus protected him till he married his sister and jesus went ahead to bless his work by giving him a city. Can't you see jesus loves killers, terrorists, paedophiles, criminals and those who involves in fraticide and incest.

Christians are bunch of terrorists who act like saints just like that god jesus after he has destroyed people and countries

[quote author=AfonjaSlaves post=70356483][/quote]You didn't expect such a response right? You think you jesus is saint after all the destruction he has done and still doing. Shove your hatred and bigotry down your ass

Harlarbiz01:
Yes jesus said that and even quran confirmed it because if I don't belive in jesus I am not a Muslim ...
My question for you is ...who is "father" and who is "me" in your quote sir..

And bro..you don't need to abuse if you are saying the fact...I am a Muslim, I love jesus and I am not a terrorist

Quit writing this bullshit. It's obvious your christian counterpart don't respect, your faith and everything you hold dear. Why should you respect theirs? Your Quran tells you to, yes but these Nairaland Christians obviously don't deserve that kind of honour.

Dont ever grant them one until they respect your religion.

uyplus:
Ofcourse he should! Do you know how many deaths that have been caused by his jihad preachings? Do you know how many young girls now have vvf because of his early marriage teachings? The world is in chaos because of Islam! Iran, Yemen, Taliban, Al-shabab, Boko Haram, ISIS. These groups have made him popular!

Islam is the reason why your jesus told Bush to destroy Iraq
Islam is the reason why USA is sponsoring Al Qeada which metamorphorsed into ISIS.
Christianity belongs to the devil and jesus is a top notch killer

crispus09:
they 'll start shouting ahlauarkbar now before they detonate there bombs here.

They learnt it from those that shout jesus is lord

SpecialAdviser:
Whoever included Jesus in the list of a PEOPLE is a fool. Jesus is not a people. Jesus is God.

Jesus created the people....

Yes, that's why he destroyed cities, killed people, told slaves to obey their masters, killed those who didn't believe in him. Jesus is the master of destroyer, first grade terrorist

Melison:
So u must swear say u be muslim before u comment Haba something is fishy
With all due respect u guys are just promoting hatred,nonsense..

The person promoting stupidly, dumbness, bigotry, hatred et al is your likes.

Who moderates Nairaland?
Is se.un a Muslim?
Who handles Nairaland?
Are they Muslims?

Your level of bigotry, hypocrisy, hatred is top notch

buJu234:
Instead of talking about adding value to the today's world, u 're talking about influential?

I think this is were Moslems especially African Moslems are getting it wrong..

Is Hitler not influential not germany right wing even though his actions led to killing of millions in WW2?

The right question would have been that :

Whose person's religion or life style is adding value to today's world?

I bet you Mohammed wouldn't come near 98th position.

What do u want this generation to learn from his lifestyle?

Is it paedophile, random polygamist, killing people that are against your belief system etc?

ollah2:
Nope he didn't champion it. Jesus championed all the evils that happened in the cave men era till date

Which god instructed onan to impregnate his brother's wife. when he refused and spilled the seed on the ground Yahweh struck him dead

Which god instructed Cain to kill abel?
Which god protected and instructed Cain to marry his sister?
Which god instructed David to destroy cities?
Which god instructed Moses to kill first born?

Yahweh sent lying spirits to Ahab's prophets when he wanted him to go to battle and die there too


All these are more was instructed by Jesus the christian God

That answers your question

AfonjaSlaves:
influential for championing terrorism and paedophilism.... who dem dey deceive

Nope he didn't champion it. Jesus championed all the evils that happened in the cave men era till date

Which god instructed onan to impregnate his brother's wife. when he refused and spilled the seed on the ground Yahweh struck him dead

Which god instructed Cain to kill abel?
Which god protected and instructed Cain to marry his sister?
Which god instructed David to destroy cities?
Which god instructed Moses to kill first born?

Yahweh sent lying spirits to Ahab's prophets when he wanted him to go to battle and die there too


All these are more was instructed by Jesus the christian God

ola12:
Stfu. All I am saying is live nd let life, u bigot. Learn to respect other people's religion. I never said any of dose rubbish u posted dere.

Quit being stupid everytime. Did the commenters I mentioned respect Islam? You cry like a baby when you are paid back in your own coin.

Great one and our ancestors must be proud of this. Drive foreign religions out of the land and watch Nigeria great again. Foreign gods are devils

I for sabi play pass these guys and be well known and made if not for "go inside and read" every evening when mumsy returns from work

ola12:
Lol, u're trying too hard. Muslims have nothin to use against Christians, just move on wit ur life nd religion nd dont ever try to critize Christianity cos its impossible

Oh really. That which you saw isn't about Christianity? Perhaps it's your likes that are trying too hard because you see your faith as a saint while others aren'. Afterall only Christians will make heaven and God is a christian according to your logic