₦airaland Forum

seunoni34:
What did the oba of lagos do to curb the crisis between hausas and Igbo at mile 2 last year? Even if they had a fight initially, this display is wrong on so many reasons. BTW as yorubas, we all know ooni is more powerful than oba of lagos, even alaafin of oyo is equally more powerful than him too. His gesture was just too disrespectful.

There is no way oba Akiolu will compete on power block. I doubt it but there is something behind the action. All theories can be propounded and until it is unravelled. We will remain in darkness. And the issue, you mentioned isn't as damning as arresting a king at ILE IFE. All these issue look as if it is not real. I don't see any reason, OONI should be seen in every place. However, OBA AKIOLU's action is condemnable outrightly. But I maintained my stance that there is a conspiracy theory.

OBAGADAFFI:
Oba Of Lagos being a Retired Policeman as always being arrogant,

I remember him saying nobody should waste time and money campaigning against Ambode.

Yes,he can talk and many times do erred. But this one is on purpose because OBA AKIOLU CAN'T DO SUCH EXCEPT A CONSPIRACY THEORY, if you consider, the magnitude at which this particular issue will be seen among YORUBAS . The hand of time can't be changed,i so much wish, this thing, didn't happen . This issue will be in the history of Yoruba land forever. Let me buttress my point, do you know many Yoruba descent in diaspora are willing to come visit home, especially the slaves Descendants? This is meant to commensurate the forth coming Yoruba festivals. And Oba OYOTUNJI came back home recently and Accorded OONI as the rightful heir to ODUA'S THRONE while OYO is diminishing, which shouldn't be SO. Despite this, I have not seen OONI forming the needed alliance with ALAAFIN as it ought to be because OYO did YORUBA PROUD. OONI is taking all the glory at the expense of all other kings and yet travel too much. OONI'S POSITION IS SUPREME and above other KINGS and he needs build bridge across Yoruba kingdoms,especially amongst OLDER KINGS and should not be seen PUBLICLY as often as OUR FATHER LIVED IN THE PAST.

Goke7:
Why are you then making assumptions on the oba's bad behaviour?

OBA AKIOLU IS AN OLD MAN. AND SO MANY OF THE OLD GENERATION KINGS ARE OLD MEN . JUSTIFICATION FOR OBA AKIOLU ISN'T MY TAKE BUT THE PROBABLE ROOT OF THE ISSUE DESPITE THE DESPICABLE ACTION OF OBA AKIOLU. IT IS CONDEMNABLE. I ONLY WENT DEEP TO TRY IN UNRAVELING THE POSSIBILITY FOR HIS ACTION CONSIDERING OONI'S NOT TOO PROACTIVE IN THE ARREST and detention OF A KING AT ILE IFE and other issues vis à vis his trip abroad on behalf of all Yoruba KINGS and Yoruba RACE as a whole.

abbeyty:
There is no justification for that oba's action, no matter the issue they have with each other why not sort it out behind closed door instead of disgracing himself in public....old man for that matter

That is perhaps the civil way of doing things which was supposed to be behind the CLOSED DOORS. I don't know the reason OBA OF LAGOS DID WHAT HE DID because his action IS OUT OF THIS WORLD. EVEN OYO, WHO IS THE STRONGEST HISTORICALLY DURING 16th—18th and partly 19th century won't do SUCH TO OONI personage.THERE IS NO TWO WAY ABOUT IT, OBA AKIOLU DID A WRONG THING. PERHAPS, HE SEEK ATTENTION FROM HIS FATHER WHO IS IN THE PERSONAGE OF OONI,WHO MAY BE SEEN AS NOT DOING THE RIGHT THINGS. I HOPE THIS ISSUE IS RESOLVED VERY SOON. BUT THEN, THE DEED HAD BEING DONE.

willibounce1:
Which king was arrested in Ife over the crisis please?

The remaining five suspects, including Oba Ademola Ademiluyi, arrested in connection with the recent clash between the Yoruba and Hausa communities in Ile-Ife.

GOOGLE ILE IFE CRISIS AND BE INFORMED




CHEERS

tosyne2much:
Bro, this your assumption is flawed

Assumption isn't what I postulated because I made reference to certain things OONI OGUNWUSI did in London, which need adjustment and remain as fact. Irrespective of the flaw that you see, which is POSSIBLE, with due respect to your opinion. Whether it is an assumption or a reality the reason for this issue will soon come out in one way or the other to public domain. And when it did come out, kindly do me a favour of informing my school of thought on the reason. My reason for this is because I am a humble Learner.

proffemi:
With all due respect: abeg go and sit down. This makes the Oba of Lagos look petty and petulant. If he wanted to embarrass the Ooni, he failed. He's the one looking like an appendage.

I am comfortably sat with no offense nor sentiment attached to the issue. Have you for once thought about the eternal damning of OONI OGUNWUSI's personality ? OBA AKIOLU may have done something beyond his grip. But something is outrightly wrong. Ask yourself,is some certain things done by OONI right? I AM MORE BITTERED THAN YOU BUT THE DEED HAD BEEN DONE. I am very emotional about this but I consider all reason before justification. Despite the fact that OBA AKIOLU blundered,the dent has been made. If you think, OBA AKIOLU fooled himself, it is better, you have a rethink because OBA AKIOLU DISGRACED ALL YORUBAS

LordOfNaira:
Wow, this is a new angle to the story. A possibility. I never thought about it that way.

I have wondered too. But the reality is that OONI OGUNWUSI isn't seeing his dreaded position as the Supreme king in Yoruba land. There is more that meet the eyes. I am yet to see any reason to justify OBA OF LAGOS action. Many of these kings knows many things that are hidden from the public . It may sound really funny but it hurt someone like me deeply seeing the picture. And I am doubtful if any natural problem has ever brewed between them. OBA AKIOLU himself knows the implication of these things. ALL YORUBA KINGS ARE YORUBA TRADITIONALIST irrespective of other religion being professed. Can't OONI CALL OSINBAJO TO ORDER? It is indeed an eye opener.

seunoni34:
Utterly disrespectful! That is what you get when you make a tout an oba. Ooni has more class than him. The shame and ridicule is on him now not the Ooni. He is just jealous!

Trade caution my dear, because, no one know the reason OBA OF LAGOS did such although there is no smoke without fire. It can't be ordinary for the OBA OF LAGOS to have been bittered in his HEART. I am tempted to believe, ILE IFE CRISIS could be one of the reason, if a Yoruba king was arrested at ILE IFE by DSS for not directly involved in a fight between YORUBAS and HAUSAS . Ooni's voice is too diplomatic over this issue. OONI isn't outspoken as he ought to be. No Emir or any Islamic leader as such can be arrested for crime committed in his jurisdiction without him being participant. It is totally despicable that it is happening in a era of a man, Yoruba massively voted in as President. And up till now, no known Fulani herdsmen marceneries have been arrested or jailed as need be. It seem OONI OGUNWUSI doesn't know his role as SUPREME KING OF YORUBA. Perhaps, OBA of LAGOS isn't happy about his role in the issue at ILE IFE. It baffles me to see or bring out any sane reason, OBA OF LAGOS, will do such a thing without any concrete reason. OOni need set up and be more proactive to his calling. So, was the other time, OONI went to LONDON to collect tithe or offering in a church. This is totally out of BOUND for him. OONI can bow to GOD but collection of offering or tithe doesn't MEAN OONI IS HUMBLE. Infact ,money is the root of all Evil. However, it may be another issue but I truly don't expect such attitude from OBA OF LAGOS is outrightly unacceptable in YORUBA LAND irrespective of OONI's action in recent times.

fanficgirl:
Its nice to meet you too. Unfortunetly, I know more about Yoruba than Edo history as Edo History has been lost since the British burned down the Kingdom and Edo parents are bad at teaching their kids and even languages like Bini are in danger of being lost. How did the Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos end up being related?
I would like to know about Ife-Ife and their connection to Benin as well.

Do Edo really have strong history as such that was burnt down ? I doubt it because, apart from the AJAMI means of writing which was used in Hausa land and Yoruba,no other notable history was written down but mostly on ORAL HISTORY TRANSFER. Although, the method of oral has it flaws but largely a Lee way to knowing the truth. When the British colonialist bombarded Bini and destroyed it , the fact remain that many of the chiefs were alive then to still have knowledge on the history of the kingdom. So, I don't believe much was lost as it regard the history of Edo apart from the ART. And all these ART work are mostly in British museum as well as other western countries.

fanficgirl:
Its nice to meet you too. Unfortunetly, I know more about Yoruba than Edo history as Edo History has been lost since the British burned down the Kingdom and Edo parents are bad at teaching their kids and even languages like Bini are in danger of being lost. How did the Oba of Benin and Oba of Lagos end up being related?
I would like to know about Ife-Ife and their connection to Benin as well.

Oh I see. Perhaps, you are married to a YORUBA CHAP. Anyway, based on the information I have, I will I do my best to clarify certain point as it concerns Edo-—IFE connection and Edo—Lagos Connection. Starting from the first, It was at time, crisis erupted somewhere in the Old AkA town called Edo in which there was a struggle between different groups on who ought to be rightful leader whose families were referred as OGISO. However, according to Yoruba history, Edo found their way to ILE IFE and met the chiefs to appeal to Odua descendant who was reigning then to rule over them. After the issue was resolved ,ODEDE, whom was known as Oranmiyan was sent and he went to Edo to establish a Yoruba dynasty. However, on getting to the place, there were still chaos and he summed up the situation to describe the situation in which he addressed the place as LAND OF VEXATION (ULE UBINU or ILE IBINU). However, I have seen in recent time when some Bini indegene, tried to distort history, about Odua by claiming him as their own. The reality about this is that Odua wasn't the one they met as leader but OGUN,who was the father of ODEDE . With disdain, I have seen on this forum in which, some Edo people tried to twist the history, just because of self pride. If not the so much secrecy in which Yoruba held on to their religion at ILE IFE, even the current Oba of Bini would not utter a statement, credited to him on his coronation day. Bini chiefs know few things about ILE IFE, THE LAND OF ABOIRÉ. Odua had a brother and he wasn't a DARK man but white Skin. And OGUN was darker than Odua while ODEDE(Oranmiyan )was a half caste human being. This was the connection between ILE IFE and Edo. This is the summary to the connection.

fanficgirl:
But Edos are already a seperate identity. I'm interested because i'm Edo

I have cousins who are Edos. So, it is nice coming across you too. Perhaps, you should inform me about Edo because, truthfully, I am a conservative Yoruba. I don't go out of Yoruba enclave as such in term of history and development. Edo history and Yoruba history is related in a little way. May be you should inform and where I need disagree,I will express my view.

fanficgirl:
Can I hear more about the Edo secession

Edo didn't secede but referendum gave them what they desired. Especially to be recognized as entity of her own. And Yoruba don't envy such ambitious attitude. And they had their way and were created out of western region.

Let me just state here that I wouldn't want to delve too much on Edo issue as such. As far as I am concerned, EDO and Some Delta group wanted an IDENTIT of their own, which wasn't bad and they got it.

Nowenuse:
You have said nothing but the truth.

See, the issue of North-central is a very confusing thing. Hausa-fulanis had the advantage over our people and the whole Nigeria, their society was well and better structured when the british came and we were classified under them. Although, many of us always resisted and fought for our own region, but the british refused to give us. Were we to fight them?
You yorubas have no penchant for minority groups as such. If not for the Nigerian civil war, Eastern minority groups would have still been under the stronghold of Igbos till now just as we are to the Core-north. So, it is not always easy for minority groups to unite against a majority group and assert their own identity, because even among the minority groups, some will be more sympathetic to the majority group.
See the case of the Igbos, The Rivers minority groups (present day Rivers and Bayelsa states) easily betrayed Igbos during the civil war and even confiscated their properties, but such never happened among the Cross river minority groups (present day Akwa Ibom and Cross river). They fought alongside with the Igbos to the last and till date you will see the better relationship btw them and the Igbos compared to Rivers people. (Sorry to my Igbo brothers who may want to take this narrative of mine personal).
If you have noticed the fight for the middlebelt struggle, you will always notice that it is always from Benue-Plateau and Southern Kaduna axis, with little from Taraba-Adamawa axis. Most Niger state, Kogi and Kwara people (except the yoruba speakers) are very much okay and comfortable with Arewa identity and clearly this comes from Islamic sentiments which the Hausa-fulanis always use to get them.

The reason why till date many north-centrals believe in One North was because of the Sardauna. During his rule, he carried everyone along (Hausas and minorities, muslims and christians) and Arewa identity was promoted and our people were never mistreated, so, many of them were meant to believe in One Arewa from their childhood. That's why you see that most of our shameless elders are not ready to do anything about this. We the youths who were not born in that era of one arewa nonsense are the ones who are agitated about this issue and in a short time from now, Nigeria will start hearing from us.

The reason why people always drag in yorubas into issues of agitation is because of your people in Kwara and Kogi. They are a majority, but living as minorities. They are misidentified in Nigeria. Your fellow majority group (Hausa-fulanis) are using your own people to intimidate you (Yorubas) with their so called '19 northern states control' and many of you are falling for it.
If Nigeria breaks up today, do you think Hausa-fulanis will not war you yorubas over control of Ilorin? Or are you guys going to let those places go to them just like that?

It is not always true with what you feel about Yoruba having no penchant for minorities. In fact, Yoruba have shown more love to minorities than any other group claiming majority. In Yoruba land, there is nothing like the usage of religion or ethnicity to fight anyone either any majority claiming group or minorities . Yoruba indigenes have not oppress any minorities that decide to live amongst us. And if such arises, you will still find some Yorubas standing up for such person or persons. This show the kind of hearts we have towards people. In the 1960s,before the civil war broke out, when Edo wanted to forcefully have their way out of western region, which was orchestrated by the federal government during the first Republic, it was granted to them despite, part of Yoruba people being carved under Edo state. And there was nothing like waging war against them so as to subdue them or whatever reason that can be given which may be as a deterrent to the division of western region. Instead, it was WILD WEST that happened in which Yoruba fought against Yoruba(those in support of Akintola against those in support of Awolowo). Awolowo group had their way. Eventually, Awolowo was roped as planning to overthrow the government. He was arrested and jailed. His first son and first born died on this case as his car tumbled over when he was coming to defend his Father and other action group strong leaders. And today, I can't even see anyone who is of Akintola's lineage, as outstanding as Awolowo's descendant. The current Vice president, Yemi osinbajo is married to one of the descendant of Awolowo. Yoruba don't believe in oppression but equity and fairness. Some people may disagree based on this. But the truth can't be hidden. And on the issue of ILORIN, the Fulani didn't have say nor Hausa because, it was all Yoruba war during the 18th century when Afonja destroyed Old Oyo . Even, after his death, it took three or four confrontation before Ilorin was made to BOW DOWN to OYO through all the Yoruba warriors that stayed and stationed at Ibadan. They Hausa Fulani knows they can't match Yoruba in anything. If it was Yoruba that waged war against Nigeria, do you think Yoruba won't win the war? My brother, we are located in a place we can access the world at ease. We have Yoruba in diaspora in millions who are well known and established. I tell you, Nigeria Will bow if Yoruba start any serious problem of arm carrying. Anyway, let hope, things straightened up naturally.

Nowenuse:
Wow, what an historical explosion.

I myself never believed that a referendum was really held for any Northern groups to join the south @Obaaderemi
The only one i know of is when Edo people requested for Auchi (which was formerly part of the north) to join the south. Then an exchange was made, and Igala people who were part of the South were interchanged for Auchi people and Igalas became part of the north.

The bottomline of all our arguments i think is the fact that the British messed up with us all and this is why Nigeria really needs to be restructured unless these issues will always be there.

People don't always learn from the past even in history because their HEARTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE DEVIL. The best option for Nigeria is to restructure accordingly. Imagine, some languages in Nigeria classified as extinction threatened languages. There are many ways each group can benefit from one another if restructuring take place. But they won't because some few people believe, the toothless army are in their grip. I mention “toothless army" because these young men who swore to defend Nigeria with their last blood are just been sent to be killed by Boko Haram without adequate military ware. i pity many of these soldiers who have fought and died as well as those still fighting on behalf of Nigeria government. Isn't it a joke to rescue few chibok girls without Nigeria Army's knowledge? It is a sad thing having knowledge of such. And the West are not willing to sell arms to Nigeria because of the fear of genocide. Can you see who is fooling who? Even Britain has NEVER COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ASSIST NIGERIA ON THE GULF OF BENIN that has been termed as the deadliest in term of pirates threat. Nigeria is a joke if it doesn't restructure to favour the right set of people. I have seen the trend at which some people are calling Yoruba to engage the government the way some people are doing in the South East. But far be it, because the most disadvantaged group today in Nigeria is the so, called North Central,who are supposed to call for restructuring. And until the JUKUN LEADER, in the person of T.Y DANJUMA ,who has been silent all these time and other minorities alike group LEADERS seeking reason to justify the call for restructuring, nothing tangible can happen. The minorities are the focal point if restructuring is going to take place. Else, Nigeria, will wait till day of Judgement, when shock will go through the bone marrow of the oppressors. By then, it will be so hard to turn back the hand of time.

obaaderemi:
There was a referendum in the 50s actually to bring ilorin kabba province to the western region.Read about it long ago and because it failed to liberate that province(i didnt remember the fine details)and ilorin/kabba remained part of the north,i thought it was due to the people's intention.The people were actually denied their right.This link which i just found clears the mix-up.sorry for that. https://adeyinkagrandson.tumblr.com/post/87008578650/yoruba-self-rule

My dear bro, the first carving of Ilorin to the Northern part in 1890s was what did the harm. How many referendum that was did which the Action group contested?, Do you know Otun Ekiti was almost carved to Northern part? All the census that was done was rejected by Yoruba because the British knew Yoruba was the torn in the flesh. Ilorin was a small town in the 18th century. And it remained until British rose Ilorin's Status after the divide and rule that was used between Northern Ireland and main Ireland. The same method has always been in place. Exactly, 1893, the Yoruba turned around to kill Momoh, who was Olu Ilorin because, he was supposed to collect tax from the indigene on behalf of the British. The Yoruba rebelled against Momoh, and he was burnt alive in his palace. That was the beginning of the problem of Yoruba until 1897,that British directly have to come in to subdue the place, when the Baloguns of Ilorin were giving British colonialist problem. And even, it was 1904, that Sokoto was subdued. The British colonialist find it hard to believe the story of Yoruba and the manner at which we had lived in the deepest part of the forest. Alaafin was not subdued neither Ooni, that was originally impossible to be seen openly. After the heavy civil war of kiriji that peace was initiated by prominent Yorubas missionary, the British had to come in a cunning way bring forth a treaty that was signed by the parties that were involved. Ijebu, Egba ,Ekiti, Ijesha/Ilesha,Igbomina,Akoko(Ondo),Kabba province ,covering Aworo etc fought for ILE IFE (Ooni) through OBOKUN, who called Fabunmi and the army later led by Ogedengbe Agbogungboro against IBADAN and Modakeke under OYO. How come do you now come up with a known falsified census which the British created to favour the Booth lickers? The evidence at the Nigeria Archive is there to see who and what heralded the treaty that was signed. And all the groups that participated and lost love ones were named according to the treaty. If the province you mentioned were under North, how come do we even have Oba at Jebba? Ilorin was a bloody small town in 18th century ,and it was a reference town because it was termed a Muslim enclave after Afonja was killed by Jamas, his own trained footsoldiers who had converted to Islam. Although few of them were Nupe mixed with elements of Fulanis. Ilorin met its Waterloo when it was defeated in 1839—1840. Ilorin had always being a Yoruba enclave irrespective of the fusion of Islamic knowledge and Yoruba tradition..Ilorin had no say over many towns 18th —19th century even till now . I know Adeyinka grandson because he is a pro Odua Republic. But some facts are worth verifying. why is that the Fulanis of Nigeria do not have a separate identity from Hausas?. Why can't there be different identity for these people? It was all in favour of the British because, once there is a chaos, the British imperialist will continue to milk Nigeria at ease. And the Small group of people aren't ready to let the system change. This is the situation we have found ourselves.

TayserMahiri:
I thiink you can wash it in public abit , there is still some space. Let it get clean

You better go drink cow's blood to increase your chance of turning to a v..p.re






Not interested!

obaaderemi:
They are not trapped.awolowo fought 4 a referendum and the ilorin yorubas still voted to be part of north.It has become their problem.like i said earlier,it isn't an issue 4 this thread.

Mr. you lied. Where did you get your information? Ilorin voted to be part of which north? Go to Nigeria archive and read what happened to MOMOH of Ilorin. And find out about ILORIN when OYO positioned her representative their when British came. You make me laugh seriously.

Nowenuse:
I am a realist. The huge difference in dollar exchange did not come with either GEJ or Yar'adua. It came with Buhari. Dollar exchange remained below #200 during GEj and Yar'adua's 8 yrs just like OBJ.

Just listen to yourself. Did Yar'adu become president in order to develop Katsina state?
OBJ sent the army to murder thousands of Nigerians in Odi, Bayelsa and Zaki Biam, Benue while Yar'adua did a lot to compensate and re-integrate the Niger delta militants. Electricity drastically improved during Yar'adua's time. All in just 2years.

GEJ was corrupt, was OBJ a saint?... Plzzzz

OBJ's achievement in 8 years cannot in any way compare GEJ's achievement in 6 years.

GEJ did all he could to fight illiteracy in Northern Nigeria through promotion of almajiri schools and girl child education.

GEJ ensured that every Nigerian state had a Federal university by establishing 9 new federal universities.

GEJ set up a national conference where all Nigerians could come out to discuss their grievances and proffer solutions to the way forward (what method of a united nation building could be more than this)?

GEJ completely revamped the railway sector from it's complete dillapidation since colonial era.

GEJ started the drastic diversification of the Nigerian economy through agriculture. During OBJ, everything was about crude oil and nothing else.

GEJ initiated and comissioned the building of a world class city (Centennary city) and world trade centre in Abuja.

GEJ supported the development of the Nigerian social and entertainment industry. Can you compare Nigerian entertainment industry during GEJ and OBJ's era??

How many more can i mention?

You have digressed my dear. The complaint was about development and not the knocks of these individuals. However, I will refrain from engaging you on bantering because of these men. The places you mentioned were destroyed based on the military judgement. Although, we know OBJ did messed up in some areas but he was the best as far as Nigeria is concerned. I want you to know Boko Haram existed during OBJ's tenure. Do you know who ordered the killing of their LEADER?, Indeed, you need to ponder over this. Let's not wash Nigeria's dirty linen in the Public.


Cheers

Nowenuse:
OBJ wasted 8 years of our lives. Even GEJ 6 years was better than OBJ's 8 years.
OBJ did almost nothing on improving electricity, what did he do about diversifying our economy? Improving agriculture and industrialization? Allowing telecoms into Nigeria, is that an achievement?
Infact Yar'adua's 2 yrs of presidency was better than OBJ's 8 years. Someone that openly declared genocide on his people. Gosh!

Are you a realist or ideologist? How much was dollar equivalent to naira during OBJ in comparison to the two you mentioned? What did Yar'Adua do in his home state that has stood the test of time till today when he was a governor? And the youngest of them all, GEJ, did you know how much money he made during his tenure via corruption?


I would have posted a link on here to see how corrupt GEJ was but I wouldn't do such.

Let me not go further on this issue because it is digression from what this forum is meant to achieve.



Cheers

Long live Ooni! The king is indeed a prophet to see the future of Yoruba dominance In the world. DNA traces has also proven Yoruba people to be extremely related to many part of the world.

Long live Ooni! The king is indeed a prophet to see the future of Yoruba dominance In the world. DNA has proven Yoruba people to be extremely related to many part of the world.

Good enough to be a stunt actress.

fanficgirl:
Really? The idiot did nothooioooonoogoooooooooooooooooong

Are you sure? A barrel of crude was struggling between 45$+ and 50$+ . Yet he paid all outstanding foreign debt. OBJ, may not have been loved by his kinsmen despite the fact that he met less 3billion$ when he was the President of Nigeria but he left the Federal Reserve of Nigeria with about 40billion$. Despite all the little anomaly and atrocity . He, even allowed telecommunications to reach a climax of liberalisation. Stop this hatred toward OBJ. I may not like the man but he helped southern Nigeria have access to becoming military personnel etc. There are too many to mention as his legacy.

MrMaestro:
I agree. We need to create better leaders that can compete for office. First and foremost though we need to start doubling down on our language in the region. It's eroding in the younger generation.

Yoruba language can't die but will continue to develop. It dies only among the children of some educated Yorubas who placed English language as an outright priority over Yoruba language at the detriment of their children. This is the challenge before all of us that dim it fit to correct this anomaly. However, the lower class and the Middle class earners which comprise the largest population of Yoruba still hold on to our language as it is. It's all about channelling our energy to bringing Yoruba language to the door step of every Yoruba sons and daughters in Yoruba land, either at home or diaspora.

thedragon:
And whom will make leave? Not even Trudeau could. Every Canadian is an immigrant same as me. I have every right to Canada as any.

Keep in mind, ex slaves like I are richer and have accomplished more in 200 years than you in 2000, little Nigerian savage. We are minorities yet we created the most popular music genres on Earth, we are the most athletic people on Earth and we are bigger than you malnourished ingrates Africans. We're it not for the black slaves of the West, you would be a slave too right after us, not gloating here on the internet from your mud hut with no running electficity.

Last time I checked the ex slaves in the Carribean have water, roads, electricity, a strong presence you Africans copy in the West, despite 100 times less your population.

And you are proud expressing this kind of feeling on the internet. C'mon, you can do better than this. I expect you to be one amongst the many coloured men coming back to Africa to make a little difference. Although, it is your world but make sure your tribe, wherever it is located benefit from your wealth of experience .It is not worth it damning any part of Africa.

cheers

MrMaestro:
I agree. He was a visionary. There are some people who are trying to push us forward though. Ambode is the only one with a passion for Yoruba greatness and greatness now.

More people are doing us proud. Although,among the serving governors in Yoruba land, Ambode stands out amongst equal. I expect, more great men with visionary leadership to begin compete for political offices in Yoruba land.

Nowenuse:
Exactly.
If not for that Sharia sweep. Core-north would have been one step ahead. Seriously, Zamfara state is really a problem to Nigeria, just see how the current governor is using religion to play with the minds of his people.

Many of their leaders who want to keep using islam to keep the masses in bondage are fully aware of the Westernization threat to their people and they are trying to fight it by all means.
Many of them are now ashamed because we keep on rubbing statistics to their face of how backward they are. Many northernerns are now migrating out of their states and their views of life is gradually changing.

Kindly keep off this internal issue from this thread. God bless.

MrMaestro:
Ademola Odujinrin is the first African in the world to fly around the world solo.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/04/nigerias-odujinrin-becomes-first-african-fly-solo-around-world/

I just cant stop being grateful to God Almighty, for creating me AS YORUBA. Every other thing about Yoruba is always about doing the unthinkable. whatever, is the cause in Yoruba's cell which always inspire us to set a new record is golden to BEHOLD. Once again, another Yoruba man , Demola, the pilot, has done us proud by also flying around the world in a solo effort. God bless him for setting this record. There are more coming. Yoruba Race is BLESSED FOREVER.

Nowenuse:
Well, i agree with Olu317, let's leave bitter histories behind and limit the amount of things we discuss on this thread.

The bottomline is that the South needs to unite as one and tag the middlebelt along, if not the core-north will continue to mislead the country. Do you agree?

Just for the records, you said middlebelters identify as North, biko, were we the ones who colonized ourselves? Millions of yorubas in Kwara and Kogi also identify as North-central. We hate the name but what can we do about it? ....You yorubas are a majority group with so much influence and power, what are you guys doing about your people trapped in the North?
If majority groups cannot do anything about it, i wonder what minority groups will now do.

Yoruba do have influence but not as powerful as you think in the federal government of Nigeria. Although, during the last confab under GEJ, the Yoruba of kwara and kogi states respectively, demanded to be fused with south western states, which was the second option at the confab. The first option being demanded was to merge the Yoruba of both state and form a new state, still to be in western Nigeria. Great Britain did that havoc when they merged North and South together under the protectorate. In all respect, Yoruba have done well as far as the agitation for true regionalism or confederacy to exist if Nigeria must truly move forward. And once others show stronger support to this, it will show that agitation from all the tribes in middle belt as well as Southern Nigeria have a uniform voice. Though ,it doesn't have to be based on selfish purpose but genuineness and determination to use the populace to achieve the needed set goal.

obaaderemi:
And you and all your own.

I do not understand your information.

obaaderemi:
@Nowenuse..was orkar's speech b4 the coup?No,sir.he gave that speech when he thought the coup was successful but they left a loophole which gen.razak took.thd rest is history.many yorubas supported that coup and about 7 yoruba officers were executed with him because everybody was tired of ibb.please don't tell me about orkar's coup.I didnt read about it online like many others.we got it fresh in 1990 and i have a feeling you did too.On gej,you said no southwest state gave him up to 1m votes.Well,he got 1.2m votes in lagos in2011 and won every yoruba state except osun despite the fact that they had ribadu as their own candidate.don't forget that was a time when most yoruba states voted out pdp.so,it wasn't about aligning with the north.the votes were against the pdp for its frivolity.But many middlebelters for many years had always considered themselves northerners,maybe you also do.I don't believe in the northcentral tag.i like 'middlebelt' better.There are things we shouldnt discuss on this thread,please.

You are right bro. There are information which needn't be discussed on this particular thread. God bless you.