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9jakool:
Thanks for your interest. There is too much information to know about Yoruba people. I’ll try to summarize as much as possible

Yoruba People are an ethnic group who speak a tonal language and comprise of numerous subgroups of people natively spanning three African Countries. Even though they had a relationship common origin, Yoruba people didn’t refer to themselves as Yoruba until the 1800s, but instead rather by the name of their subgroups such as Ekiti, Ijebu, Oyo… They are found in Western Nigeria, Southern and Central Benin and Central parts of Togo. They are one of the largest tribes in both Nigeria and Benin republic as well as in Africa. Yorubaland is roughly bounded on the North by the Niger river, on the east by the Ose river, the West by the Ogou river in Togo and on the south by the Atlantic. Their Number stands at around 45 million. There are also large diaspora in other parts of Africa, North and South America.
History/Organization/Government


Ile-Ife
You can’t talk about the history of Africa, without mentioning the history of Yoruba people. All Yoruba people claim origin to the ancient city of Ile-Ife located in Osun state. The first king of Ile-Ife was Oduduwa. He’s regarded as the progenitor of the Yoruba race. Oduduwa’s children and decedents established kingdoms across Yorubaland. There was also an expansion of Yoruba people and settlements, especially westward. Yorubas established multiple cities, many of which were walled. Ile-Ife, simply known as Ife was settled at least as far back as the 3rd century BCE based on archeology evidence. The kingdom became very prominent in the Middle Ages around 700-1400 A.D. This era became known as the classical age of Ife. Ile-Ife had a thriving civilization producing some of the finest artworks in the world for the time. Many of these artworks depicts spiritualism and realism which surpassed European realism at the time. The arts were also exceptional in the variety of styles that were utilized such as terracotta, bronze and metal casts, granite, ivory, wood, glass etc. The art of stunned Europeans who first encountered the artwork for the first time who couldn’t believe that such artworks could have been produced by Africans. (One such racist who shared this exact view was Leo Frobenius, a German archeologist who explored Yorubaland and published many pseudo theories and articles in Europe for the explanation of the Ife civilization. He was willing to believe that Ife was the Greek colony of Atlantis, even though the Ife artworks featured African people. His pseudo theories would later be discredited.) Anyways, there are many ancient sites in the city till today and the city is considered as the spiritual homeland for Yoruba people. Other specials features of Ile-Ife are the ancient potsherd-syle paved roads and courtyards of Ife dating to 800 A.D and granite obelisks that are found throughout the city. The tallest and most widely known obelisk is the Oranmiyan staff.
Other Important kingdoms
Yoruba people were extremely organized. There were numerous powerful kingdoms who were founded by other Yoruba groups as well. All the kingdoms also produced exceptional artistry culture center on the beliefs and traditions of Yoruba culture. I can’t really list them all but some include Ekiti (16 kingdoms), Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akure, Ketu, etc. Because of the numerous factions, not all Yoruba were united under a single empire. This was also beneficial because no group could single handedly dominate all Yoruba people. A couple of foreign invaders tried to extent their control over certain subgroups, but were nonetheless met with strong opposition



Oyo Empire (1300 A.D-1896 A.D)
The most centralized state that emerged was the Oyo Empire which was able to unite some Yoruba groups in the west such as Yewa, Egba, Oyo, Ibolo, Igbomina, etc. The first was Oyo-ile (old Oyo), which was sacked by Nupe invaders from the North. Oyo would rebuilt it’s as well as strengthen its military by adopting a strong defensive Calvary army who would later emerge on an imperial expansion westward. Oyo Empire stretched from Nigeria to Ghana across spanning four African countries. In addition to some of the Yoruba groups under Oyo, It also controlled non-Yoruba kingdoms which served as vassal states required to pay tribute to the Alaafin (ruler) of Oyo. An example of this vassal state was a kingdom in modern day Benin republic called Dahomey which was under Oyo’s control for about a century. Oyo had a very organized system of government which many aspects are also universal among all Yoruba. The Oba (king) sits at the top of the throne and he has a 7 councils of Oyo mesi which are also acted by another force, the ogboni. Ogboni are a secreat society comprised of wise elders who held a special spiritual influence and regulate the affairs of the society. You also had a number of chiefs and other political units. The military of Oyo was well organized and it included the eso (city guards), cavalry, infantry which comprised of skilled swordsmen and archers. Oyo also had a number of allied states who also made up Oyo’s military. All empires must fall, and Oyo was not an exception. There were multiple factors that led to its downfall. Oyo partook in the Yoruba civil wars which and there were a number of revolts and uprising against Oyo which all weakened it. Another threat to Oyo was the Jihad of the Sokoto Caliphate led by Fulanis. Fulani had conquered land North of Oyo and captured the frontier town of Ilorin. Long story short, Oyo was able to halt the spread of the Jihad when forces from Ibadan defeated them and push back their advance. Oyo would be later be absorbed by the British bringing a final end to the empire. Even though the empire fell, the throne of the Alaafin and many other Yoruba kings are still preserved till today. In fact all monarchs in Nigeria still serve as the traditional heads of their domain till today, even though they have don’t have any official power. They are ceremonial titles that are testament to history and culture. Their responsibilities is to represent their domain and uphold the ancient cultures and traditions.
There is a lot I didn’t mention, I had to summarize.

Some Ile-Ife Artworks from the Classical Period

With due respect to your information which is laudable. I will appreciate, if you drop, this issue about this, 3BC existence because, there's no proof of any YORUBA ANCESTORS existing during that period.
Then, in part of the Art and royal robe, there are inscription of SOLOMON'S KNOT OR ENDLESS KNOT as some will call it.



WELL DONE JOB THOUGH.




CHEERS

Nowenuse:
U sef na wa for you o. See as u just wan dey spoil show hia. Comot first make i mama all dis bad belle pipu na.
I nor mean every every wey i dey yarn. U dey feel me? I wan just use dem tey shine.

I feel you bro.

Nowenuse:
U sef na wa for you o. See as u just wan dey spoil show hia. Comot first make i mama all dis bad belle pipu na.
I nor mean every every wey i dey yarn. U dey feel me? I wan just use dem tey shine.

I feel you bro.

Pearlyakin:
I think there are some puzzle that we need to solve, am actually a Yoruba,and the first black rabbi in the person of Rabbi Arnold Ford Josiah from Barbados claimed that his father his from Yoruba tribe while his mother his from Mende tribe in Sierra Leone, and according to Wikipedia source both Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King Jr are also of Mende tribe.
Arnold Josiah Ford also went to Ethiopia to crown Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie) as the Emperor of Ethiopia and as a the chosen one for the black race.
According to some heresay Yoruba's share some ancestral DNA with the Oromo,you can verify that through the Oranmiyan Obelisk and the various Oromo Obelisk in Ethiopia and Sudan(Ijebu's claimed that they are from Sudan)
According to Mr Hati from Ethiopia Haile sellasie is majorly of Oromo tribe if am right.
That show's that there are some things that need to be unravel, and what about the bilikisu sugbo eredo in Ijebu.
Its just a puzzle indeed.

ARNOLD FORD BLUNDERED, when he Crowned Haile Salliesa(Ras Tefari) because Ras isn't SOLOMON'S SON from the information at hand. How can he be called SOMOLON'S LINEAGE?.
Then, on the issue of BILIKISU, she didn't have a child and this make her issue different from QUEEN SHEBA, because, she had a son FOR SOLOMON.

Lastly, OROMO isn't the only group who shared DNA link with Yoruba in East Africa .
Below are the list with whom, some few tribes share DNA traces with YORUBA.

OROMO :0.7353%
TIGRAY : 0.7228%
BANTU KENYA : 0.7630%

MayorofLagos:
God Bless you!

Igodomigodo is Edo, not Bini.
Bini is Yoruba, not Edo.

Edo is the land, Bini is the throne and the Crown.


Sometimes these guys disguise and intentionally open a controversial point of history so they can hear us talk and as we do they are taking notes.

They get enough knowledge that they create a Yoruba name and start using what we taught them as accounts of legitimacy and belonging.

I once encountered a Ibo boy in scholarship interview. He knew more about Lagos Island than some of the true sons and daughters of Island. He said he was coached the history by his father. He was detected simply because as impressive as his knowledge when asked to name the orisha of Iga Oshodi he got it correctly and when asked to name that of Iga Jakande he blundered. To clarify, he was asked to give history of Epetedo. He failed that too. His family had lived in five wards on Island.

So we need to be reflective when setting people like this OP straight. We should turn the table upon them and challenge them on their own history, than entertain their enquiry into our history.

Odua a Gbe wa!

Well informed. I am also perturbed at which some of our Yoruba members don't care to know more about Yoruba history ?With God all things are possible.


Asé to your prayer

sunnyeinstein:
I like d ile ife crisis angle u put to it, dint think dat sef. Ultimately, me think oba akiolu is jus saying d mind of other obas. Oba ogunwusi is not acting like an ooni, rather like a spoilt bratho got an official excuse to do as he pleases, belittling the obaship in d process. And yorubas say "oun to de ba ara ile, on bor wa ta ba ara oko" meaning his actions would make obaship become more meaningless sooner than they imagine.

Honestly, I don't see any reason, Ooni Ogunwusi would like traveling as such while the land we called SPIRITUAL HOME is having one of relevant son in DETENTION . Truthfully,nothing happens physically without it to had happened in the SPIRITUAL WORLD. Whatever, was the reason, that made OBA AKIOLU did such wrong thing, must increase the potency OONI and to SEE HIMSELF as the most Supreme king and the only pride of the people called YORUBA ethnicity, that sees ILE IFE as our pride. The issue on the last fracas between Hausas and Yoruba which led to a relevant king to be arrested and the head of Yoruba land, see it as following due process, without considering the implication ,when a king can never be directly involved in mayhem, yet he was arrested. What is the role of OONI in all these? It hurt me the most if you don't know because, Ooni OGUNWUSI represent my father's Lineage as well many other children of Odua and yet Ooni refused to play the Warrior King's, even in a Modern Way. The insult on Ooni's cannot happen in the OLDEN DAYS because, he will be well placed after consultation from IFA to know if he ought go out on that PARTICULAR DAY or not. BUT here we are in a modern day ,seeing the Son of ALAAGBA, disrespecting the throne of Of Adimula. Isn't it foolhardy? Although there is no smoke without fire considering this sensitive matter. All things being equal, irrespective of my bitterness, I admire OONI's position when he said, he still has regard for OBA EKO, despite, the anomaly. However, if Yoruba can't put their house in order, how will the Yorubas in diaspora and other tourists see this and be comfortable to visit during Yoruba festivals? Almighty God will heal Yoruba land.

joshysmartie:
jokes on you.. its proven... its way more than... not less than...

guys self... quick to defend their idiocracy...

I had thought this guy was joking but you seem serious. Now, it is OBVIOUS, YOU ARE STILL WAY BACKWARD AND NOT STUDIOUS. I CAN'T ENGAGE SOMEONE LIKE On this matter SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU QUOTED ME. WHO IS THE MAN THAT HAS SURPASSED MORE THAN 10% ? DO YOU THINK I COME ONLINE TO SHOW KNOWLEDGE PROWESS? EITHER YOU REPLY ME OR NOT, I WON'T ENGAGE YOU AGAIN ON THIS MATTER .

I AM HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED READING THIS KIND OF OPINION.


LAUGHING SERIOUSLY. Piece of advice, kindly study more.





Excusez moi
au revoir

Elagancy:
unfortunately, I'm not talking abt de eko dat u know because u were not born then, I'm talking abt wen men were men. here's de list if de obas of lagos, be humbled as u learn.
Ado (1630–1669) (son of Ashipa/
Esikpa)
Gabaro (1669–1704)
Akinsemoyin ( c .1760-1775)
Eletu Kekere (c1775 - 1780)
Ologun Kutere (also Ologunkutere /
Ologunkuture ) (1780-1801) or until
1803
Interregnum between Ologun Kutere and
Adele (c 1805 - c1810/11)
Adele Ajosun (1811-1821)
Oṣinlokun Ajan (Oshinlokun, Eshinlokun)
(1821–1829)
Idewu Ojulari (1829–1832) [5] or until
1835
Adele Ajosun (second term) (1835-1837)
Oluwole (1837-1841)
Akitoye (1841-1845)
Kosoko (1845–1851)
Akitoye (second term) (1851-1853)
Dosunmu (1853–1885)
Oyekan I (1885–1900)
Eshugbayi Eleko (1901-1925 &
1931-1932)
Ibikunle Akitoye (1925–1928)
Sanusi Olusi (1928–1931)
Falolu Dosunmu (1932–1949)
Adeniji Adele (1949–1964)
Adeyinka Oyekan II (1965–2003)
Rilwan Akiolu (2003–present)

First,show me one man who was from BINI PRINCE'S LINEAGE THAT BEARS ASHIPA? SECONDLY , OLOGUN KUTERE 'S MOTHER WAS THE SISTER OF AKINSEMOYIN, WHO REIGNED AROUND the date you mentioned. However, OLOGUN KUTERE'S FATHER WAS AN IJESHA/ILESHA man and from a NOBLE FAMILY AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND, WHO MARRIED AKINSEMOYIN'S SISTER. HAVE YOU NOW SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WAS THE FATHER OF AKIOLU ?

ALL THE KINGS THAT HAVE RULED FROM OLOGUN KUTERE ARE HIS DESCENDANTS.

WHERE WILL LOYALTY LIES?

LET NOT OVER FLOGGED THIS ISSUE.
AKIOLU CAME INTO BECOMING KING BECAUSE OLORUN, LO GBA FUN, BUT HE BLUNDERED WITH SUCH ACTION. EVERY YORUBA PERSON KNOWS HIS OR HER LINEAGE .

CLOSE CASE

smellingmenses:
There's nothing to discuss with someone who is exhibiting acute grandiosity.

It doesn't take much to confirm that you Benin people celebrate mediocrity

You need not comment on a thread like for too long because ,OP knows nothing about history. I will advise you let the OP lick his wound over his dying EDO language. How many white men want to seek and Learn more about Edo tradition? A tradition that is not independent of itself because it is attached to Yoruba myth gods, like Olokun, Ogun, etc . The replica of the development of BINI ART is in London Museum, which has shown that it was thought to them Yoruba people of ILE IFE . That's the reason, the British colonialist don't always take them serious. Even, think, who in diaspora want any serious attachment to Bini kingdom?. Bini belong only to less than 2,000,000 speakers, how can you take the OP serious?

MayhorE:
alright thank u sir

God bless your effort

Elagancy:
my dear, Google the history of Lagos and also visit ur library if u don't trust Google

which part of history of Eko do you know? The Lagos I know or which of the Lagos are you inferring? You are the one that need know the bitter truth. I have mentioned his patrilineal father's name. So, I expect you to find answer to the real truth.

@ OP, it seems you are one these EDO sons looking for recognition. If Yoruba descended from BINI, why DIDN'T DNA show it? Why didnt scientists mentioned BINI as having NEANDERTHAL LINK? But traces of Neanderthal DNA in all humans with one notable exception: sub-Saharan peoples like the Yoruba and Khoisan.


BINI THAT WAS EVEN LUCKY TO HAVE ODEDE STAYED BRIEFLY WITH EXPORTATION OF YORUBA TRADITION TO BINI.
ALL THESE UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE

YOU BETTER GO STUDY TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YORUBA HISTORY INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR TIME MUDDLING UP ISSUE




BINI KO INIB NI........NONSENSE

Elagancy:
no matter how forgotten history may be, it can't be changed. no matter how long lie lasts. it doesn't make it de truth.

What is this one inferring?OBA OF LAGOS THAT WAS A SON OF ALAAGBA, AN IJESHA MAN. WHICH TOOTHLESS BENIN ARE YOU INFERRING? IS IT THE ONE BORDERING NIGERIA or WHICH ONE? YOU ARE A LEARNER . HE HAS NO POWER BEYOND IDUGANRAN AND SUBURB. CONTINUE TO WALLOW IN IGNORANCE. OBA AKIOLU has blundered.

MayhorE:
BT it made the list

Yeah it did. But giving the right positioning, was my demand. You cant mention JUSTIN GATLIN ahead of USAIN BOLT,Can you do such mistake?


I like proper arrangement because,every information that has to do with verification need coordination and accuracy. Opinion is quite different from Fact. And many digest information on here because it is a fora, where information can be accessed.

ahza:
Because it uses 18-20% of its brain doesnt make it smarter than human beings does it? Neither does it make it smarter than other animals it all depends on the brain capacity. I mean that a dolphin has to get to 18-20% for it to do what it does but other smart animals don't need to go that far. Kabish?

Whatever you like, you can go ahead and infer. When you are ready, you will swallow your pride and accept the reality as far as science is concerned.


If you have evidence that scientists have shown that other animals are the most intelligent. Kindly send or LEARN NEW THING.
The @OP, has given you some facts about Dolphin and its ability but only miss the part its prowess as being the most intelligent animal.

joshysmartie:
you know myth busters?... the 10% of the brain stuff is busted...

some facts arent actually facts...

Come off it. Read carefully before you send stuff online. Do you know the meaning of “less than"?
Funny dude.






Enjoy your day.

MayhorE:
thank you very much but that'll be next time.
Should be changed to human bah?

No, because it is DOLPHIN

Hati13:
There are many legends about Queen of Sheba, but the most agreed by Scholars is one the Ethiopia version. Some say she was black(Cushitic), while others say that, she was a mix of Cushitic/Semitic(Arab or Jew). There was a kingdom called Sebean in southern Yemen. May be she was the ruler of both present day northern Ethiopia and Sebean kingdom. Her name in Ethiopia is called "Makeda".

I don't know if the Yoruba people are descendants of Queen of Sheba, because I don't if she was real.

The so called Solomonic Dynasty was formed by Menelik I in the 1000 B.C. If this Dynasty was true, then Emperor Haile Sellasie was descended from his Amhara background. But I don't believe the legend or story, because there is no evidences to support it.

Amhara and Tigray are mix of Agew/Arab. If you want to know about their origin, read one of my topic named "Origin of Amhara, Tigray and Gurage Ethnic Groups".

Oh I see . Yoruba didn't claim Descendant of Queen Sheba. But some few people think it was BILIKISU, a Yoruba woman known to be very rich many years ago. The period of BILIKISU of Yoruba land is different from QUEEN SHEBA'S PERIOD. And Tigray and Oromo are the ones that Yoruba share part of its DNA with. I will read about it on thread.







Thanks

MayhorE:
1. Chimpanzees
Chimpanzees and humans are remarkably similar, sharing about 99 percent of our DNA. Chimps are our closest living relatives, and like humans, live in social communities and can adapt to different environments. They can also learn sign language.
Chimpanzees can walk upright on two legs if they choose, and while they are primarily vegetarians they consume meat (as well as eggs and insects) on occasion.
Chimps make and use tools, such as stones to open nuts and leaves to soak up drinking water. They reach reproductive age at around the same time humans do – 13 for females and 16 for males.
2. Bottlenose Dolphins
Bottlenose dolphins are one of just a handful of species in the animal kingdom that are able to use vocal learning to develop their own vocal signature. Early in life, each dolphin creates its own unique vocal whistle that gives it an individual identity. Because each whistle is unique, dolphins are able to call to each other by mimicking the whistle of a dolphin they want to communicate with. It's the equivalent of calling each other by name.
Many dolphins establish strong social attachments and will stay with injured or ill members of the group, helping them to the surface of the water so they can breathe if necessary. There are also reports of dolphins protecting human swimmers from sharks by swimming in circles around them, or rushing the sharks to shoo them away.
Dolphins have also been known to team up with humans to catch fish. They drive fish toward shore, where fishermen wait to cast their nets. The dolphins signal the fishermen when it's time to cast their nets, then they snatch up the fish that don't make it into the nets.
3. Elephants
Elephants' brains are bigger than the brains of any other land animal, and the cortex has as many neurons as a human brain. The ability of elephants to learn is impressive, and they are also self-aware – they can actually recognize themselves in mirrors!
In the wild, these highly social animals demonstrate helpfulness, compassion, and empathy. Their trunks and feet generate seismic activity that allows them to communicate with one another on a wide variety of subjects. Elephants are likely the only large land-dwelling mammals that communicate using seismic signals.
4. African Grey Parrots
Known as the Einsteins of the parrot world, African Greys are highly intelligent. Studies have shown that the birds possess abstract, inferential reasoning abilities. They appear to have some understanding of causality and use it to reason about the world. African Greys also show their smarts with their counting abilities and vocalization skills.
According to the Lafeber Company:
"Most bird keepers believe that only an experienced bird enthusiast should keep a grey. They are complex parrots, highly sensitive, and more than a little demanding. They are also charming and brilliant, but this match of sensitivity and brains can lead to behavioral issues. They are creatures of habit, and even a small change in routine can make a sensitive grey unhappy."
5. Rats
The ability to think about thinking is called metacognition, and a few years ago scientists discovered that rats, like humans, can make decisions based on what they do or do not know.
Studies also show that rats are surprisingly self-aware, they're ticklish, and they dream just as we do. Pet rats are extremely social and form strong bonds with their owners. They learn their names and come when they're called, and they beg for time out of their cage to play and interact with their owners.
6. Crows
A crow's brain is about the size of a human thumb, which is huge relative to its body size. This puts their intelligence on a level with primates, and gives them the ability to solve complex problems.
Scientists have discovered that crows recognize and remember individual human faces. Different areas of a crow's brain light up when it sees a person it perceives as friendly or threatening.
An 8-year-old girl in Seattle, Washington and her mom feed crows that visit their backyard. In return, the crows bring them gifts. The little girl has a carefully catalogued collection of over 70 trinkets her crow friends have left for her on her bird feeder, including earrings and a "best friend" charm.
7. Dogs
When it comes to canine companions, "smart" means different things to different people. Some people feel an obedient dog is smart, while others believe a dog with a mind of her own is more intelligent. Very agreeable dogs are considered smart by most human standards.
Humans judge the intelligence of dogs based primarily on how quickly they learn to obey our commands, how well they perform, and whether they are able to learn human-type stuff like identifying objects.
Because dogs have lived among humans for so long and undergone so much domestication, some scientists believe they're more like humans than even chimps – and could serve as a model for understanding human social behavior.
8. Pigeons
Studies show that pigeons are able to learn abstract mathematical rules, and in fact are the only non-humans other than rhesus monkeys with the ability. These much-maligned birds also have the ability to make extremely intelligent choices, and have highly evolved pigeon problem-solving skills.
Pigeons are also able to recognize individual people, most likely by their facial characteristics.
9. Pigs
According to some experts, pigs are among the smartest, cleanest domestic animals around – more so than cats and dogs. (The reason pigs roll around in mud isn't because they like to be dirty, but because they don't have sweat glands and the mud helps them cool off.)
Researchers who have studied pigs have learned they have excellent long-term memories, solve mazes easily, can comprehend a simple symbolic language, love to play and play-fight with each other, can learn to operate a joystick to move an on-screen cursor, and use a mirror to find hidden food.
10. Octopuses
Octopuses have the largest brains of any invertebrate. The common octopus has about 130 million neurons in its brain. A human has 100 billion. However, three-fifths of an octopus' neurons are not in the brain; they're in its arms. Each arm has a mind of its own, so to speak, and if cut off (which the octopus can regrow), will wander away and even grab at food as it did while still attached.

@OP, you tried but DOLPHIN is the only animal that use between 18%—20% of its BRAIN. The greatest of Human being use less than 10% ,which means YOUR NUMBER ONE need be adjusted



God bless you for effort.


Cheers

HardMirror:
Tune to a church program on tv and I am sure at least 1 out of 10 is talking about "prosperity". What happens in church today? Socialization.

It seems you are a atheist and I wouldn't be shocked if you conclude from afar to judge. However, I will enlighten you a little about what the BIBLE had Said about this same thing you think, it is not NEW. Socialization and prosperity or whatever name you want to attach to it, was one of JESUS's condemnation of the Pharisees, Sadducees as well as other noble families in the synagogue of God. However, you blundered because, you are distracted by the things you see around you or things you see on the television,even on Social media. Statistically, the rich people whom may be the target of the few elements who claim to be PASTORS OR MEN OF GOD, doesn't make the church a place of socialization. And prosperity is what the soul and body of men and women who are called children of God need to have a good life. Are you expecting those to be called children of God, according to the Bible, poor set of people? I mock you and your type. Or do you want to compare yourself with some of these Whites who claimed to atheists and always willing to part away their belongings with the poor? can you really part your belongings with the poor ? This is the doctrine of Jesus when he spoke with the rich man and he had talked about it deeply on how one can inherit the kingdom of God. Even if you aren't a Christian, you can learn to know more about having a Human Face. PROSERITY BOTH IN BODY AND IN SPIRIT IS EXPECTED TO FOUND IN THE CHILDREN OF GOD, SO don't come on here and condemn what you have no knowledge on because , some few elements in the church deviated. You better pick up a Bible and learn more about JESUS CHRIST AND HIS POWER OF RESURRECTION, TO GUIDE YOU TO ETERNITY.


Have a wonderful time

Hati13:
The story of Queen of Sheba is a legend. There are no concrete evidences which support she was real. The legend say that, she was the ruler of Sebean kingdom in southern Yemen that also include present day northern Ethiopia. The legend also says that, she went to Jerusalem to meet King Solomon and she became pregnant from him. Her child was born in Ethiopia and was named Menelik I. After he grown, he went to Jerusalem to meet his father. When he returned to Ethiopia, he stole the Ark of covenant and brought it to Ethiopia with him. It's now believed that its found in the church of Axum. Her tribe is believed to be Sebean. I don't know where she was believed to be buried.

Emperor Haile Sellasie ethnic backgrounds was Oromo(50%), Gurage(25%) and Amhara(25%).

Tigray ethnic group is found in Tigray region(northern Ethiopia). Amhara and Tigray people are Agew/Semitic people who lost their partial Agew identity. Amharas are Amharanized Agew/Semitic and Tigray are Tigraynized Agew/Semitic peoples.

Our(Amhara, Tigray, Gurage, Harar and Bahir-Tigrayia(Eritrea) ancestors were Agew, Arab, Afar and few others.

If what you said here, is true, then it is a mystery to me because, I have read deep story about her and her connection to to Old Ethiopia region. However, I had thought she came out of the current Ethiopia environment even if not directly the present day Ethiopia. It will surprise you, if you know that, there is a part of Yoruba that CLAIMED she was buried in one of Yoruba's clan in Nigeria. However,Queen Sheba was said to be referred to as BILQUIS by the Arabs scholars who was married to King Solomon and being called BILIKISU in Yoruba land. However, according to Yoruba myth, she had no child. And the BILIKISU's burial ground is situated at Ijebu in Nigeria. Lastly, I haven't seen any real connection to Yemen because, Queen Sheba was said to be from cush (dark skin beautiful woman). And if Ethiopia and her environs around horn of Africa doesn't have, then, more research need be done in finding out exactly, who she was because, YEMEN in history haven't boasted of a lady, with such great wealth as she was said to have had in her possession .

Haile sallesie information, shocked me because, most coloured people outside Africa's soil had thought , he was JEWISH and precisely descendant of KING SOLOMON. The statistics you gave me about his connection to the tribes mentioned isn't linked with any Jewish settlement in Ethiopia , does it?

I asked about Tigray because Yoruba's DNA is connected with them and also connected to The OROMO of Ethiopia. Where did OROMO came from before settling down in Ethiopia?



Have a wonderful time out there.

Nowenuse:
Eriterea won the war because of Egypt. Infact the war was as good as Ethiopia vs Egypt. Many other Arab nations supported Eriterea but nobody cared about Ethiopia.

I get your points very well though. Great.

Yeah bro

HardMirror:
What makes me mannerless?
Check through our conversation just today and judge between you (the supposed christian) and I an athiest.

You sure you what to be like jesus. My dear stop fooling yourself. Christianity has been turned to a joke. It's all about money and socialization now. The old time religion of the book of Acts is dead.

Who told you about Christianity having all things to do with money and socialization?

Hati13:
Amhara!

I am YORUBA from Nigeria. I have read part of your thread which exposed me more about Ethiopia. And I have read some other stuff about Queen Sheba's history as well which have been subjected to numerous disagreement on a different fora because there were different theories about her personality and being BURIED in NIGERIA. What tribe is Queen Sheba? Where was she buried? What is the tribe of Ras Tefari? Who are the Tigray tribe of Ethiopia?,Since your language is Semitic,Where did your ancestors really migrated from?

Hati13:
Amhara!

I am YORUBA from Nigeria. I read part of your thread which expose me more about Ethiopia. And I have read some stuff about Queen Sheba's history, is from your tribe? Since your language is Semitic,Where did your ancestors really migrated from?

fanficgirl:
Interesting, yes many Bini people deny the connection and I did too until I recently found out it was true. I'm not married to a Yoruba man, i'm very young lol.

Very young you mean? Are you 5years old? Anyway, it is true but SOME BINI people always try to deny such fact about such migration from ILE IFE to Bini. These groups of Yorubas settle down when Oranmiyan came with his entourage to Edo land and some came after Oranmiyan had gone. Till forever, there are families in BINI that are YORUBA DESCENDANTS. No matter what anybody say or think,even if some people deny it.

Nowenuse:
Apparently you misinterpreted my point where i said that '' yorubas have no penchant for minority groups''. What i really meant was that you guys are not interested in forming a united identity with minority groups or using additional minority group populations for greater political relevance, unlike the Hausas and Igbos who are always all over Middlebelt and South-south minority groups.
Although i see that this might have been caused by the early seccesion of Bendel (Midwest) minorities from the old western region.
Talking about Yoruba against Hausa-fulanis or yoruba waging war against Nigeria. I really don't want to undermine the power of any group here, especially a majority group. However, see for yourself, it would be very possible for yoruba to withstand Hausa-fulani (alone), cos both groups have almost equal populations, but if middlebelt and other northern minorities join in with Hausa-fulanis, the disadvantage on yoruba would have been very clear like 2 against 1, not to talk of Yoruba against Nigeria (where we are talking about 20% yoruba population against 80% Nigerian population) and we all know the North controls the military. Unless with stronger external influences, it would be very impossible!

I understood what you meant but didn't take the case that far as it regard forming alliance with minority groups. Forming alliance with minority groups is the most difficult, considering the fear of the minority groups. But truth must be said here, that it will be a herculean task fighting against all sides of Nigeria. This is practically impossible for a Yoruba Race to do except with tactics and all manner of war machineries . I don't really see Yoruba fighting Nigeria because it will amount to suicidal mission. Although, war isn't won by population but modern war techniques and technology to do such. Don't forget, Gideon Orkar had Yoruba soldiers supports as well when he decided to break Nigeria via his radio broadcast. But they failed, so, don't always see it as if Yoruba can't work with minorities in many areas. On the issue of Old Bendel , we are different people to a large extent,o even if marriages took place amongst our people and these other groups in the olden days . Despite,this ,in Delta region, we still have Yoruba descendants who had been there for over four centuries. The Olukunmis have never denied themselves their Yoruba identity and have never shortchanged it with another tribes but hold on to Yoruba identity ,despite 100s of years of long migration toward that direction. And Bini's history is associated with our great ancestor, known as Oranmiyan who married Edo lady that gave birth to a son,known as EWEKA (OWOKA or OWOMIKA) among them within a short stay at Bini . So we really don't have bitterness toward any group as long as the motive is right. Even among Yorubas, we have betrayals, so,it is far away from the problem associated with the breakaway Midwest. It is like a non Yoruba meeting a very cunning Yoruba chap, his mentality will be tilted toward, all Yorubas as being cunning. Just as many people will think all Yoruba have tribal marks as OYO people ,which is the greatest blunder anyone can make because there are some people who don't HAVE tribal marks in YORUBA HISTORY. War isnt a good to thing because a lot of people will die. However, people can continue to clamour for separate identity through Referendum and the copy of such DECLARATION to be with UNITED NATION. ERITREA fought a bitter war against almighty Ethiopia with over 90,000,000+ people compared with 4,000,000+people. And Eritrea still survived and became a nation of her own. Anything is impossible.

GERALD710:
IYou guys have shown your high illiteracy as in all cases mentioned above,WE HAVE SHOWN THAT WE ARE FAAAAAAAR AHEAD!!!
Agriculture:Kenya is a food exporter.It is an agricultural commodities exporter.Nigeria has been a net food importer since the 1980s.
Industry: Nigeria is the only country on the continent where even the Chinese are closing factories
Mining: Now that we have oil, what does Nigeria have that Kenya does not have??We have larger reserves of coal, soda ash, flourspar and even rare earth metals like Titanium and we also have Gold
Communication:I do not need to mention anything here.Safaricom, MPESA.Far more superior. And is a Kenyan company, unlike MTN.
Transport:Nigeria has far more superior roads to Kenya.Though we are not far behind.
But everything else, rail, air,water...Nope.
Health:UUUUUUUUWI!!!!The entire East Africa knows what a DISASTER Nigeria's healthcare system is.
I am not going to repeat data that has shown,
You guys have a lower life expectancy, have underfunded hospitals and diseases like Polio and weird diseases like Ebola and Lassa Fever(which I came to hear from Nigeria) still endemic in your country!!!
Real Estate:Why do you people keep going around in circles when Nairobi has in the past 10 years held the mantle behind Cape Town when it comes to luxury real estateHow many times do we need to post links to show this?
And who told you the railway is going to go at 100km/hr.You are talking of the freight trains, NOT the passenger trains.And it is of Standard gauge, once electrified in 2019-2020, it will be able to handle 200km/hr trains.SMH.
Again, I have said it time and again, you are the liars and cheats here, you keep repeating statements that have been debunked, claiming facts we have loong proven wrong from verified sites then still go about boasting!!!

You are a bloody clown. Chinese firms that are a killer manufacturing firms. Chinese firms that have the least paying salary structure even in their home country are the firms you are celebrating. You belong to the 17th century era. So, pitiful that you are not well expose to the reality of time. If Chinese firms quit Nigeria, how come MTN didn't and some others?, Irrespective of the challenges besieging Nigeria's economy,she is far better than Your lame country with no technological prowess. All your country's hope lies in the hands of FOREIGN INVESTORS who ARE BASICALLY WHITE MEN. I mock your at ignorance.

Hati13:
Yes!

What tribe are you?

tosyne2much:
Thanks for the wishes brother mi

Always man!

tosyne2much:
Now I know better bro.. I didn't even know you were the one I quoted

No qualms BIRTHDAY CHAP.

seunoni34:
hmmn, let's watch and see how things unfold

with calmness, we will see the truth behind such action against OONI.

tosyne2much:
Bro, this your assumption is flawed

So, today is your birthday!. Happy birthday bro. Long life, fulfilled dream and established sound health is yours by the grace of God.



Enjoy your day.




Cheers