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fanficgirl:
Yes, I said Nigeria has a huge part in it but it isn't exclusively Nigerian

NOT EVEN NIGERIA but people. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU NEED DO CAREFUL RESEARCH ON THE BANK. WHY IS THE HEADQUARTER SITUATED AT TOGO IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I ASKED SOME, KINDLY DO THOROUGH RESEARCH ON IT.

leathalbeast:
ecobank is not a Nigerian owned bank, the earlier u accept that, the better for you. the fact that USA contributed immensely to the creation of World Bank doesn't mean World Bank belongs to them.

I asked questions, instead, you gave me opinion. Isn't it hilarious? Yeah ,there were other partners but where did they made their largest revenue? Where is their largest clients? And who founded it? Are the founding members not still active in the board of directors ?

Do your research very THOROUGHLY.

fanficgirl:
He probably thought it was because of whose in charge.

Who founded the parent body of the bank in Togo?,Who have been the C. E. O from the foundation of the bank? Who are the majority shareholder of the bank?


Do research on it before you draw your conclusion.

Hati13:
Let me guess, you are Protestant.

Jesus was an ordinary person, just like the rest. By his intention, he claimed to be son of God. He then, succeeded with his fantasy game and created mess. That moment when he decided to be called son of God, so to glorify himself changed history for the bad. Literacy, logic, civilizations, law and etc...... were paused for thousand years, until some brilliant people said, enough is enough.

If I ask, you believe Jesus died for humanity sine. What sines? Where the great Greek, Roman and so on..... achievements and civilizations a sine. It's funny to ask this questions, since they are irrelevant, but I want to read your response.

If Jesus Christ, was an ordinary man, how come Quran even made mention of him? If Jesus was an ordinary man,how come he is the most talked about in human history? How come the richest countries in the world today are the ones that call his name? Even communist country like China keep clamping down on churches. I know him and the power of his resurrection. No man can understand or come to Jesus Christ unless God chose such person to follow Jesus Christ. Bro, I am not protestant but a Pentecostal member. Do you know there is power of revelation before it happened?

Hati13:
True, except Ethiopia.
Ethiopia negotiated with Europeans in the early 20 century about her borders with her interest in some extents.

That is just the bitter truth

TayserMahiri:
Many things in the bible took place in real settings in real places that existed. They just added myths and a whole bunch of lies. For instance, there was pharaoh but Israelites were never slaves in Israel. They just weaved real events into a myth to come up with their founding myth. Every ethnic group had their founding myth, am sure even your tribe has one. So many events in the bible never happened but are stories weaved very well into real places and people.

said what? That children of Israel weren't slaves for over Four hundred (400+) years + . The story s very real and true.

TayserMahiri:
Is there a valid bible point anyway. For me, it stops making sense right from the first page of creation.

If the Bible isn't real, there won't be a pulling out of SEVEN BOOK OF MOSES. Do you have knowledge of the book? Even, Egyptians ethnologists,cryptologists,ethnographers etc acknowledged the history of ISRAEL. How can you say, the book isn't valid?

Hati13:
Ethiopia and Nigeria could split, but I doubt it.
Why you say, Botswana, Seychelles and Namibia have better future? I don't know much about those countries. Can you tell me the reasons?

Dont even blink. As far as Africa continent is concerned, it is a creation of Colonialists. And until reorganisation take place, real development is far off. Seychelles is a country with less than 100,000 population. The damn country is doing well infrastructural development.

Hati13:
You don't need only to go to Lucy to prove evolution, just look at how man had evolved from 1AD, 1000AD, 1800AD to present. Even, Pope Francis and other higher church men are starting to believe in evolution.

C'mon, Pope Francis? I am not a fan of someone, who pray through Mary, mother of god because GOD doesn't a Have Mother. JESUS CHRIST CLEARLY STATED IT WHILE GOING TO BE CRUCIFIED. And,on the revelation of the bones you mentioned, I needn't go check it because, JESUS CHRIST CAME PROPER AS A HUMAN BEING according to the account given about him. Even Ethiopia fella came in contact with Steven,one of the evangelists of JESUS CHRIST after Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, who was among the earliest Christ follower of Ethiopia descent.

MetaPhysical:
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Awesome revelation. Kudos

marabout:
Totally. No credibility whatsoever.

They lost even more credibility by ganging up to silent AreaFad2. I hoped I would be wrong when I predicted it.

You prevent someone from commenting or replying to posts, then flood it with papers written by you guys.

And those information you supplied to foreign writers.

Then go about saying you are scholars. You people cannot tolerate diverse opinions.

Same role you lot have played to entrench tribalism & mediocrity in Nigeria, tagging along with the feudalistic North. Betraying yourselves, from Afonja, to Akintola, to even OBJ.

Shame on you lot.

You can silent me here also.

@History2900, let them wallow in the narrow mindedness, tribalism, myopia & megalomania.

No amount of their "dubious scholarship" as Areafada rightly calls it will make a dent on Benin History.

If you think you have information that predated the beginning of OBA in BINI history, bring it forth. And stop thinking, ganging up was the matter. If your areafada, had point, he ought to presented it. I came forth with over 500 years of I, Olu317 personal history. Start with that on your own lineage. Then you can understand, why we YORUBA are different from you guys. Even your own brother @history2900, even couldn't read very well when he LIED, that I mentioned YORUBA FROM MALI. Is this how you people really are? If not because, my Edo friend has been a friend for over 26 years, I would have denounced my friendship with him,if you people are fond of telling consistent LIES.

Ednite:
Britain had many African countries under her control, so she gave Ethiopia to Italy. . .

If you read more on intricacies of western Powers. You will understand, that there were mutual respect accorded to one another because they all have tested their own might against another. So, you wouldnt had expected Britain to supply weapon to Ethiopia. Considering, the fact that Ras Tefari gambled to form alliance with Germany. You see,in war, each sovereign state has its autonomy. If you condemn Britain because she didn't support Ethiopia. Didn't you see what played out in Ukraine war recently when Russia aided few locals to invade part of East of Ukraine? This is even in modern world where technologically advancements is 100% better than the late 18th century and during the occupation of Addis Ababa by Italian Army in the 1930s. It was just impossible to drag Britain into uncertainty. This is what it means when the word,‘ RULE OF PERMANENT INTEREST AND NOT PERMANENT ENEMY '. As at last year, 2016 , there were negative verbal utterances between Russian government and Turkey's. But as at today, they are both on the verge of transacting a deal on ANTI MISSILES SHIELD. You can imagine, what it means, when dealing with world politics and European powers.

ba7man:
All these Bini boys that think we're still in 1469.

Yoruba don take over for hundreds of years now, this one is still yarning ancient crap.

There were no record of BINI HISTORY'S CONNECTION TO WEST AFRICA OR EVEN AFRICA. That's where to look at it from and do finding. Else, you will make some of them still feel a bit on a pride side. They had no history without Yoruba and will have no history without YORUBA CONNECTION. AFONSO DE AVEIRO (1585—1586)WAS THE FIRST WHITE that had contact with BINI. Hence, other Europeans came and HYPE THEM.

history2900:
You lost total credibility when you talked about "yoruba being malians", I don't even know why I am still reading your claims and responding to you. You don't know what you are saying. You keep making claims while providing no proof, and your claims are ridiculous to say the least.

I have never been an aggressor on this platform before but the other way round , don't make me use vulgar expression on you because you lied against me. But the humility of my bloodline make me think otherwise. However, QUOTE ME WHERE I MENTIONED YORUBA ARE FROM MAHLI EMPIRE. If you don't know how to read, then you need not be on this forum. I ask you once again, Where did I mention my heritage came from Mali.? This just show the depth at which some Edo INDIGENES always try to continue to distort and derail this thread.


Excuse me!

TayserMahiri:
Sounds like you are afraid of the harder questions in life.

Of course not. I am just a realist as it seem. Science have a lot unrealistic theories since it denied God. There are limit to the extent science can go in life.

TayserMahiri:
Awesome,

My genuine view

history2900:
So the new line is that the malian empire was Yoruba ? Please do you hear yourself ? You talk like a crazy person. As I keep saying let us deal with facts. The Oduduwa story is mere unverrifyable fiction. History and religion are two different things. Enough said. Next time you want to claim something attach a proof to it !

There was a slight incoherent words from where you mentioned. And I was inferring, the patronage of Yoruba Products from ILE IFE at Mali Empire, Ancient Ghana Kingdoms, Central Africa etc. I was trying to inform you that evidence of bead manufacture among the Yoruba dates as far as the 11th Century AD. Scientific evidence exists indicating that blue-green glass beads made in Ile-Ife were being traded outside the Yoruba area long before the era of European contact.Evidence exists that the glass used in bead production by the Yoruba was indigenous to the region . The composition of the cobalt blue and blue green, segi , glass used are not found anywhere else in the world. This means that the glass and the beads made from them were manufactured in Ile Ife as part of the unique Yoruba glass making industry. Reference : Lankton, Ige, and Rehren (2006)
Lastly, you are funny and very funny because if Odua was a myth,millions of US, his patrilineal descendants won't be ALIVE. Thank God, we are ALIVE as sleep can't be denied as non existence. Now, you see the bitter truth.

TayserMahiri:
Why?

JESUS CHRIST IS THE REASON

TayserMahiri:
Its the Atlantic Ocean not sea, and it appeared when North and South America split from Africa. I hope you have some geography on the tectonic movement of continents. All continents were one large landmass known as Pangaea which gradually split up into what we have now.

Typo error on Atlantic Ocean and not Atlantic sea. My point here is that most of these studies of planets and evolution isn't my interest. I do enjoy scientific breakthrough on medics,technology, etc though. And underwater discoveries draw my attention.

TayserMahiri:
I don't understand how I inferred a connection between science and God. It must be your way of seeing it. Science doesn't give a sht about God. He's nonexistent. If you don't believe in evolution, its really your own business.

I am a fan of scientific breakthrough. However ,the evolution of LUCY to mankind? I don't follow such theory.

TayserMahiri:
First of all, Hinduism is no better than any other religion and there is no reason to believe in their 155.5 trillion years unless it is based on a concrete theory or evidence. There is no generally accepted religious belief for the origin of the sun or earth, all that matters is which religion you follow. And frankly, that is the least of my concerns. Am a big follower of science because nothing is believed unless there is concrete reason to do so.

What did your friend tell you how the sun was formed ? The scientific consensus is that the sun was formed from material (gas and dust) in our galactic neigbourhood. Although it may look empty, space is filled with gas and dust. Most of the particles is hydrogen and helium, but some of it is made up of leftover remnants from the violent deaths (explosions known as supernovae) of stars.

The particles were pushed closer together by gravity, causing pressure and heat to violently rise. When the temperature reached about 18 million degress F, hydrogen atoms slammed together and formed helium, which radiated energy through fusion. This process is happening even right now and scientists observe stars being born almost every day. That is a starter explanation for how the sun was formed.

There are several ways of telling how old the sun (or any other star for that matter) is including observing the rate at which it is spinning. Our sun's age has largely been determined by radio carbon dating of isotopes of materials in the solar system known to have been formed at the time of formation of the sun such as meteors.

I know you are probably wondering what gravity is that caused material to coalesce, but that is another matter altogether with its own science. For now, just understand that gravity is the curvature of space-time.

If all the these elements you have mentioned truly are what they are. How come there is a theory that scientists acknowledge alterations of time at one time in history? The reason I mentioned this is that Certain foundation of some things can't be unravelled. Take for instance , how where did the Atlantic sea came from? How old is the Atlantic sea? Is there alternative for water if it seizes to exist?

TayserMahiri:
First of all, Hinduism is no better than any other religion and there is no reason to believe in their 155.5 trillion years unless it is based on a concrete theory or evidence. There is no generally accepted religious belief for the origin of the sun or earth, all that matters is which religion you follow. And frankly, that is the least of my concerns. Am a big follower of science because nothing is believed unless there is concrete reason to do so.

What did your friend tell you how the sun was formed ? The scientific consensus is that the sun was formed from material (gas and dust) in our galactic neigbourhood. Although it may look empty, space is filled with gas and dust. Most of the particles is hydrogen and helium, but some of it is made up of leftover remnants from the violent deaths (explosions known as supernovae) of stars.

The particles were pushed closer together by gravity, causing pressure and heat to violently rise. When the temperature reached about 18 million degress F, hydrogen atoms slammed together and formed helium, which radiated energy through fusion. This process is happening even right now and scientists observe stars being born almost every day. That is a starter explanation for how the sun was formed.

There are several ways of telling how old the sun (or any other star for that matter) is including observing the rate at which it is spinning. Our sun's age has largely been determined by radio carbon dating of isotopes of materials in the solar system known to have been formed at the time of formation of the sun such as meteors.

I know you are probably wondering what gravity is that caused material to coalesce, but that is another matter altogether with its own science. For now, just understand that gravity is the curvature of space-time.

If all the these elements you have mentioned truly are what they are. How come there is a theory that scientists acknowledge alterations of time at one time in history? The reason I mentioned this is that Certain foundation of some things can't be unravelled. Take for instance , how where did the Atlantic sea came from? How old is the Atlantic sea?

TayserMahiri:
My guy, science does not say there is no God, it only says there is no reason to believe there is one. No scientist will waste his time trying to prove the nonexistence of God. Of course there are things you can disagree with science, some of them are proven to be wrong after rigorous tests. And this is actually what makes science stand out and reliable rather than a weakness. Science does not say anything is to be believed without a doubt. That is why you here them called theories, despite the fact that they are almost disprovable. The theory of gravity is an example. We all know gravity and how it works but its synthesis is considered a theory in science. Not a fact, but in essence it is a fact. The same goes for many other theories like evolution, general and special relativity and quantum mechanics.

Honestly, you are the first to infer on this as it connects science and God. All the scientific discoveries and theories have to deal with proof. This is the basis of all scientific work. And God has nothing to do with human ideology as it concerns with all theories that men formulated in which man claimed it that it brought about creation as well evolution of humans. Lucy should come to mind, if science truly believe in existence of God. How come Lucy's theory as being the ancestor of mankind. How on earth can an Ape's lineage be the ancestor of humans?

history2900:
On the left hand corner, there is an "i" in a circle, clic on it. For the next lessons I will be chargeing you some cash, and dollars only.

Who wrote first account of Bini history if not Afonso de Aveiro? Who carve the map? Why complain when you have no knowledge of history? At best, you study to learn more about Yoruba history. BINI history has nothing to be learned from,was it about warfare? was it about financial development? was it about kingly organisations? was it wealth? Yoruba had been in patronized in Mahli Empire , Kingdoms in present day Ghana, Mauritania etc thriving around 11th—16th century . Another bombshell is that Solomon knot is used by many part of the world, Yoruba used it among the royals attire in Yoruba land. If you don't know it, find about it. Now see, it is not about Yoruba wanting attache. It was about other people wanting connection with us. After all, Edo sent to ILE IFE to come rule over them because Yoruba was a wealthy people
Have not read Yoruba that Yoruba didn't claim Edo state but BINI Royal lineage and BINI town. And if the Oba BINI doesn't have respect for tradition by trying to distort history, so be it. To Thy tent o Israel.

history2900:
@olu317, All the information you need is on the website, you do know how to use a computer, right ?

Oui, je ñ'est sais pas

history2900:
So you decided to quote me and yet you shw that you can't read or understand what I actually wrote. If you come up with a claim then back it up with proof. The way you are trying to discredit pre-colonial maps is incredible. You talk as if you were there to see what was going on back then. rather than just say things the way you want them to be, please provide evidence ! The pre-colonial maps are evidence showing what the Benin empire was. All the claims which you are making against the maps are born out of envy. All your claims are without proof !

Who were the the ones that created the map and tagged it? Back what up? when I have given you dates and book written to its account.

AshiwajuFoward:
Yinmu. It's too late for anyone to rewrite the history of the tiny Lagos Island stretch (not even the entire Lagos state), certainly not insignificant and puny binis. Shiorrr. Ijeshas don already displace whatever is left of bini bloodline in the stool tey tey.

Eyin boys, won tun ti debi o.

9jakool
YonkijiSappo
aljharem
walexy100
Olu317

The OP, just want people to comment on his thread. His information isn't even accurate. And Akiolu cannot say such. He blundered and who ever he represents have failed on this one. Oba Akiolu made the silliest mistake of a life time.

legendsilver:
Hope this will help you
- The Lagos monarch, Oba Rilwan Akiolu has allegedly said that Lagos is not part of Yoruba land

- Oba Akiolu had in a week ago reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi

Barely one week after he reportedly snubbed Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi when they met at a function, the Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has allegedly released bombshell, saying Lagos is not part of Yoruba land.

OK oooo.

history2900:
I have many other precolonial maps to post, I have very early ones. So let us try a logical way of doing things: When you claim something provide proof. And this is not a court of law so no need to try to twist things in order to push a narrative. let us only seek the truth ! forget your tribes or your opinions, use only logics.

Joano Alfonso d'Aveiro (1485-86) was the first white man that had contact with Bini. ILE IFE account had been discussed for over two centuries before BINI came in contact with Joano Afonso de Aveiro and he was the one that helped introduce BINI to the rest of the world. After that, map was carved to favour BINI. However, EXACTLY 1375, Spanish trade map known as Catalans showed that ILE IFE as a place where a king reign and very powerful . This is how important ILE IFE was to BINI even During Joano Afonso de Aveiro (1585—1886)had a record of it as REY DE ORGANA (Ojaja /Oghene/Ojeje) King at ILE IFE. And that the king was associated with the every enthronement of Oba BINI rituals( Ryder, 1969). Ibñ Battuta's 1325—1354 travel account mentioned ILE IFE as one of the place where reside one of the greatest King on earth during this period.

All the map showing BINI were borne out of the fact that EUROPEAN travellers thought that it starts and end with BINI. It was until 1850s when British had subdue Eko that they were shocked to see huge population trooping out. Didn't you see the signatory to the war of kiriji? Governor General walked through to ILE IFE to make sure the war stopped despite the fact that they were not English lettered. Britain could not take side because Britain realised the civil war were among the same set families.
Check BINI history very well. She had no bite.

marabout:
That is what they are good at. Ganging up & conspiracy.

If they cannot silent that Areafada2 guy here, they will gang up and give him a long ban. This is their forum you know.

If you don't have fact forget it. No one silenced areafada. He was the one that drew the first blood. I told him my identity and personal history. He had to cave in because he can never know it more me because I am born to know my lineage. It has nothing to do with PRIDE. And many Yoruba you see are interrelated one way or the other. PERIOD

Hati13:
You are right, there are some points in science we shouldn't just agree with it, but what science says that, God doesn't exist is right for the time being. If there is no concrete evidences to support it, then science claim is right.

If I ask you a question, do you believe, Aliens exist? If so, do you believe, some of them are present here on Earth now? Do you believe they had influenced our history in the past and still influencing in our life's at present time?

There are different types of people living in this planet earth. And there are discoveries about existence of aliens. But didn't change the fact that God exists. My proof is as correct as my uncreatable and irreplaceable breath

YonkijiSappo:
He was already in Edo state as a matter of fact, but not benin.
He was also a prolific womanizer it seems, that is how some very old edo families got ogedengbe /Ogedegbe as their surnames till date.

Ultimately he went back and retired in I think Ilesha.

Confirmed.He had a lot of children among Edo women. That is why they came about the name Ogedegbe. I don't even know the person that told some Edo people story ooh about their military prowess .