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@yawa-ti-de
I am not on the side that it's a bad invention. I am only saying that it's part of the lead way to these bad price tags placed on projects. Or are you pretending not to be aware of these low pricing here and there?

@Dual Core
Do you seem to realize the pricing the place on projects? These pricing have eaten deep into people and prospects take that to be the norm and price high end projects as such. Doesn't it hurt you? Are you comfortable when someone asks for a social network kind of website and his/her asking price is 50K? Does that show you the value of your profession? You are simply called a cheapee no matter what certificate or professionalism you've acquired/attained and if you don't start working on it, it will eat deep and the entire profession crumbles. Soon web developers too might be seen as our 20naira Police men because we'll be choiceless than to accept whatever is put as a bid before us and we either accept or go hungry. Hope that is when you will see the danger I's talking about.

Please join let's see how to resolve this pricing things.

[quote author=yawa-ti-de link=topic=759118.msg9147521#msg9147521 date=1316022592]@dual:
no b joke o. I am a big rusty when it comes to the latest naija slangs
@slyrox:
Merci bien

@temitopsy:
Summary:
1) Contact page menu item is a broken link

2) I think you should reconsider the photos you have on your "about" page.  The "wanted" one in particular might actually cost you business, IMHO

3) The site looks more like a blog than a site that is advertising what you do

4) Services on home page should probably not even be mentioned.  I mean, the average Joe cares less about what technologies you use. Dude just wants a website

5) The brown globe in your company name should probably be changed to blue: Looking at it with my eyes, it looks as if the company name consists of 2 parts, "temi" and "psy"

Good luck![/quote]Pls let him get a new thread for this so that you can get this settled there specifically for him and not in between a different topic not related.

sisqology:
Yawa ãήϑ dualcore has said it all,  Please, I need reviews O°˚˚˚,yawa n dualcore,  http://www.temitopsy.comn bomb me your reviews if any :p

Pls create a new thread for your website review.

Since the inception of Open Source projects, the web industry has experienced a great change and life has become easier for many as they now have tools and frameworks to reuse again and again to help make development easier. Recently, its intention seem to have some devastating ends. Such ends are really affecting the growth of the industry in many regions especially here in Nigeria and other countries of poor or slow economic growth.

Taking Nigeria as a case study, Open Source has really put up a slow growth or even tarnishing the actual growth of the web industry has gained so far. Some projects like the Content Management Systems has really made some designers not know the worth of developers. To this end, they use such tools without knowing what efforts came backend to bring them into functionality. These tools have eased jobs too to a good advantage but the problem it has created is actually more than the goods. The odds having taken over the goods now is not a fair deal at all.

Pricing of web works for both Designers and Clients has really been on the negative ends. Because of the poor economies of some countries, the use of these tools in getting projects done in limited time has now affected the web industry entirely. Low pricing bids by some whack guys who just peep into the industry and learn to use these tools have pushed the industry quite below standards. Now, many Contractors are not seeing the difficulty involved in designing and developing web applications. They take the low pricing by these whack guys as the norm and not care actually for the nature of jobs output for in return. Professionals in the field now suffer a great set back due to this factor and some are joining in the streak of low and careless pricing and bids so that they don't starve. But must we continue this way? Is there never going to be a remedy or do we keep it diminishing and possibly, all sink down into the same ordeal of reckless pricing and bids?

Fellow Designers and Developers who actually take this profession as serious as ever, do we move for a motion against these open source projects or do we keep it ongoing but rather find a better way to curb these bad eggs who are destroying the industry for us? Which way forward? Now, we can't over stress the obvious which is the benefit of these Open Source projects to you and I but we need to resolve this issue of pricing because it is what is making us not seem important. If actually these whack guys were to code up a standard and professionally looking websites, they will see the pains and stresses of conceptualization down to actual design and development, time factor, energy consumption, power, etc. With such an experience they will consider it not wise to put up these bills that irritate and affect the industry in a negative way.

I actually think it's time we put minds together and put to a stop or push to a good limiting point these whack guys from spoiling the industry thereby making us not enjoy our hubbies and going hungry, as well as bringing down the weight of the industry even to the economic growth of a nation. You cordial suggestions are needed and at the end, ACTIONS to back them up. Mere words spoken just lie where they are spoken or written but ACTION surpasses all. Now let's suggest the way forward so we can redeem the image of the web industry especially in our country Nigeria.


Courtesy,
OmniPotens

[quote author=emeka.D. link=topic=759118.msg9147111#msg9147111 date=1316018827]@omnipotens
It only works that way outside NL[/quote]How do you mean outside of NL?

Interesting

Thing to do is first of all, ask client for a full description of what he wants. This should not be "it looks like this or that" but "it should be this and should be that" then you conclude and seal all in a document and not verbally. Once this is certain then you can start talking money issues. Not once you see I need a website then you charge N1,000 (negotiable) and probably end at N200. Where comes the service charge? Where's the hosting? Where are the charges for equipment depreciation and replacements when damaged, payment of staffs, etc. [s]These kinda boys are giving us problems o[/s]

The most problem I forsee is just what I think we will look into on a new thread. Until I start it in some moment.

The many hungry designers around are basically not taking this work as a profession. They just use it to get something for their pass time money so charge anything they want thereby spoiling the image of the industry for actual professionals.

I think open source might be causing much harm than good to some extent and so we need to look into the scenario.

Get some of your answers here:

http://www.google.com/webmasters/

Dual Core:
Try that and get back to us.

Omni, long time.

You know how far na so we no suppose dey chachacha in here

One thing I experienced was this anyways;

If you try and it fails, try stripping \r and just use \n

example:

if (preg_match('/gmail/',$email_address))
$headers = str_replace("\r\n","\n",$headers);

REASON: To avoid Gmail thinking headers were all sent after first row.

Please test ooooo. I just pulled from my archive and pasted here.

Check this:

$headers = "MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n";
$headers .= "Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\r\nX-Priority: 1\r\nX-MSMail-Priority: High\r\n";
$headers .= "From: $from\r\n" . "Reply-To: $from\r\n" . "X-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion() . "\r\nX-originating-IP: " . remoteaddr () . "\r\n";
$success = @mail ($to, $subject, $message, $headers);

Dual Core, e don do

Contract me to do the graphics

Leave wizbabe alone

You hear so

!!!oooooooooooolok

@bug24 What brings you in here?

Dunno why you people are bother over what doesn't bother the riders. They give no damn about those. To them, it's just formality.

I am watching, Let's see where this will end.

Those in the Programming section got to the point of registering an organization name and at the end of the day, they halted the whole deal.

Where are we at this point?

Why not put a link to the demo. That makes life easier and ensures you of more contacts after demo previews.

Happy New Week!

You are not sure pls. You can check for my email on my profile then email me. I will connect you myself on YIM since it's difficult from you end.

Better still, connect any of the admins through their YIM accounts or send emails to them using the report to admin buttons

Connect me on YIM let's build on your script so you get what you want but you need to follow well and understand what you are doing and not copy and paste.

You are trying to run a Membership Website
Every user logs in and is redirected to him own profile page

Is that what you are asking for?

topman01:
please w'masters i need help on how i can get a new or fairly used blackberry storm 1 or 2 at the amount of 15k.this is my number 08026946738 or send me an email to joy_vicky10@yahoo.com

Pls go here to check for your phone need.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/board-54.0.html

Pls don't go there yet

Pls explain better what you need

Sólo los de base y bueno simplemente!

But how about 1100.5986, Will the if(strpos($money,'.')) {$p=explode(".",$money);$dec=$p[1];} do the conversion? I don't think so. I guess the function needs an added parameter to do whole numbers conversion in such instances (making .5986 become .60 is you strpos to 2 decimal places). Well, choice of the user to edit more to get what he/she wants.

If this guy was actually going to get pissed at stones thrown at him, why at first did he request for 'em Just curious anyways

Pls @Slyrox Don't close the thread. Let's allow it on. I purposely wanted to see the end of this whole deal. Most times things like this help give people clues to something and how to also go about many things.

Don't say we are not happy or any tops or lows here. We all are equal in whatever we can achieve. The end justifies it all.

Someone brought up the topic and asked for contributions. We were adding in and I threw my suggestion in as well. When the suggestion window was closed and time for decision taking, silence was thrown in and the NL Angel of Silence scattered even the contributors so to say. Whose fault?

Simple truth is this. In Nigeria as far as I know, it is extremely difficult and not simply difficult to get minds coming together to execute. Reason is "Who takes the glory?" This is the more reason you see people having half baked everywhere.

Look around you and see different concepts taking up lots of spaces around town. Imagine bring together like 3 of them to form 1, what you think? Better offices, better concepts, better outputs, quality performances, good, good, good, and good blah blah blah results. But who go gree make them join am give another person? or are you just knowing that PARTNERSHIP in Nigeria doesn't work or if it does, it doesn't last?

Another thing is this. Only people who know themselves and think alike can come together to make things like PARTNERSHIP in a project or anything of the sort work. I can even tell you people in here who are ready and ever ready to pick up something seriously and work it till the end but issue is still "There is no one house in here". In fact, this project collab is working outside of NL and not inside of NL.   Just trying to be more candid anyways.

Mediocres on board in here are always at the sides and pouring sand in everyone's garri.

@guru01 no fex u hear I feel your pains. Me still fit help you subtle in case   My email always on my profile whenever.

@dhtml Told them o. E no easy but we go make am easy someday if we someday decide to break the jinx. We know better than this joo.


Happy Weekend bros and sis!!!

Most people see the survival thing as OYO (On Your Own) so that means collabo or collab or anything is simply a bad idea.

Life continues but I bet you, this OYO system is to be broken soon. Just sit down dey watch no look and turn to looku looku oooo

Since Open Source Project don hard us like piss hard fowl, pls let us think about Closed Destination Project.

Until Nigerians learn to work together, we can't achieve big. We only get fractions here and there that never make a name or cross our different local offices.

Seems this topic sef go enter sleep mode.

Very dulling.

Why did I even waste my time suggesting too. I guess I was dizzy when I did and also forgot I was to deal with Nigerians, lol