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After all the atrocities committed by fulani herdsmen in this country. .. then i can't really condemn the mambilla youths... Infact more of these needs to happen everywhere... Fulani herdsmen cannot be allowed to continue their killing spree

nonsobaba:
This may have been his biggest challenge but i want to say that his biggest achievement to me was the gunning down of over 5000 wawa and abakaliki members of Massob in 2006 and the mauling down of another 300 of the invaders in ezu river amansea in 2009. He started the fumigation to get rid of these pests and for that, he has my gratitude.

Lmao

coptic:
I have not.

But that's largely because he's his own person. I can't tell him what to do or not.

I for one have great respect and admiration for the Yoruba so much that I've been wrongly labelled as Yoruba on here. How then do you relate that?

I have never had any issues with a Yoruba person nor has anyone around me. Should I then be made to suffer the same fate as one who may have personal issues with some?

This is an isolated issue. Meanwhile, I apologize for the anger his comments might have stirred.

We should all know better than to put everyone in small boxes.

But i still believe you could have told him to stop.. The dude already took his comments away from being personal, he was making his comments "on behalf" of Plateau indigenes thus the backlash from many of us here....

Many yorubas do advise their brothers to refrain from making unprovoked remarks... You ought to know that on nairaland, you can't get away with unprovoked comments and your tribe definitely suffers it the most.

Anyway, I'm also sorry for some of my remarks here targeted at the people of Plateau state...

myobjective:
Oga! I am original "omo Karo ojire" I am pure Yoruba and a very proud one, I have been living in the north all my life so, I can relate to what the guy typed. He might exaggerated some of his point but he has a very good point.

People don't know that yorubas are more than igbos inoat northern city, yorubas travelled a lot contrary to some what some iPod youth used to say here. For example, one can survive in a city like Minna is one can speak Yoruba language alone because of the large number of yoryba people there. The truth these yorubas need to break away from algae alliance with Hausa Fulani, they don't see us as their friend and we should be ready to defend ourselves against this people.

Yorubas are not coward, we have fought so many wars even before the coming of the colonial masters, we have built better empire than any group in Nigeria w shouldn't relegate ourselves to people core Northerner can easily bossed around, we should be prepare to defend both home and abroad against any group be it Hausas or igbo

Now, you are talking. .. If you had said this earlier maybe i won't have replied you the way i did... The guy was attacking yoruba and you kept agreeing with him. you made it look like yorubas were some kind of conquered tribe in the north.. We really need to drop this "tolerance bullshit", some of them see it as cowardice besides the guy was indirectly abusing you but you kept agreeing with him.. We have crossed that bridge, we no longer reply hatred with love, neither do we reply war with peace.


Well, I'm sorry for my earlier remark

coptic:
So you want to insult an entire people on account of the opinion of just one man? Oga o.

I know you are from Plateau state, but have you made attempts to scold your fellow tribesman for many of his unguided utterances here?

myobjective:
An average southerner can differentiate between an Hausa Fulani from many northern minorities because the manotities mingle more, are more educated, assimilate more and they are more tolerant. The middle beltans are one of the most wonderful people I have ever come across, I have some of them during my university days. They have wonderful work ethics, more tolerant religious wise and generally more similar to south westerners than core northerners.

We need more alliance with middle beltans, we need them for the arable land, we need to build political and economic bridge with them. The middle belt also need the yorubas because we have access to the sea, peace loving people and we share slot in common with you guys. I will beg you to stop all these e insult so that we can focus more on our common enemy

This is one of the unity begging associated with many yorubas on this forum that i dread so much.. .. . Someone insulted the hell out of your tribe without any apologies and you here trying to negotiate peace with the same man.. you are even forming "yorubas are tolerant bullshit" Don't you get it? The dude has been abusing yorubas for so long on this thread claiming they are cowards.. . Well, where I come from in yoruba land, we don't tolerate shiit from anybody.. And you can't even hear of any foreigner making noise here.

Nowenuse:
So, are you saying that no yoruba lives were lost in Shagamu? The fight was not entirely one-sided. If you tell me Ife crisis was almost completely one-sided i can accept, but not Shagamu where there were also yoruba casualties.
Yorubas were almost completely wiped out of Kano that year in retaliation. Most of them had to run to Sabongari for Igbo & middlebelt christians protection. Lol. How many hausas were arrested and had to bail themselves?? Your own people are being arrested and have to bail themselves for defending their own land.

FYI, Plateau people and other northern christians do not live in Hausa quarters cos we don't trade like the hausas. So how could we be victims in yoruba land?

So what you are telling me now is that whenever there's a fight between yorubas and hausas in the north, the hausas simply massacre the yorubas there without suffering any casualties? But whenever there's a fight in shagamu we have both yoruba and hausa casualties?


I think you are sounding too desperate in a bid to prove hausa superiority when it comes to violence.. Whenever there's a fight there will be casualties on both sides but one tribe will surely have the upper hand.

Let me reiterate this again, an average OPC member doesn't even know the difference between hausa and fulani talkless of someone from Jos as long as you speak hausa then you are an hausa man... I'm just telling you the truth.. . It doesn't matter wherever you stay in the south west. . Infact not all hausas stay in sabo. . Whenever there's violence here you guys join your caliphate brothers in sharing the sorrows

Nwakaumu:
Why wont they lose they phone when there is suffersticated joblessness all over afonja land which gives rise to the emergence of the likes seun egbegbe and danny krane.you see them afonja begging for food at parties these days.

Potopoto boy, what gave rise to Evans and Vampire?

amazon14:
Remember wedding party?
Mr lukman of wedding party must have gotten legitimate entrance to the wedding

How was the security arrangement like in the film "wedding party"?

Igboesika:
I wish Demola Ajayi was a nairalandrer. D man don suffer no b small.
Indeed, he's real representative of afonjass not Tinubu .

Most of you guys are da*t, Do you really think we get annoyed with that picture? We are proud of those tribal marks.. It shows some are still conscious of their culture unlike some people whose only known traditional attire for men is a singlet and a wrapper

FAKE NEWS.. . I don't think someone could have stolen anything with the security arrangement on ground yesterday..


At muhammodu buhari's estate where the reception took place, there were two marquees there and you can't enter the marquee meant for important dignitaries without an invitation card. The second marquee was meant for "mogbo moya" people.. . And it wasn't even a church wedding sef.. It was a nikah


It wasn't an open event.. Pickpockets couldn't just operate to the extent of fleecing with a governor's cell phone

Mak i siddon for dis thread .. Even though i would have preferred anambra vs imo or anambra vs abia.

Nowenuse:
Hahahaha, since you were listing all the years where Ilorin yorubas bleeped the Emir up, i honestly thought i would see a time like 1965, 1977, 1983 or any post- independence period.
We all know that Hausa-fulanis/northerners got their greatest power after independence when the British handed over rulership to them and the grip was further strengthened post civil war.

Let the Ilorin yorubas or OPC try to fucck the Emir up again please, we are waiting for a post independence episode. So, until then.

Talking about Hausa-fulani fighting over Jos. Have they won it yet? Do they have an ordinary district head there? Yes, we made the mistake of accomodating them in the past just as we accomodated yorubas, Igbos & Bendelites who came en masse during the Tin mining, but rest assured, since we have known who they are. We have placed them where they belong. We no longer share the same neighbourhoods again and they can never acquire any lands again outside their present abodes. There are many other towns in Plateau states where Hausa-fulanis cannot pass on a vehicle, let alone stay. Go and ask how they are marginalized in their quarters.

Did i hear you talk about conflicts? Did Hausas not defeat yorubas in the Mile 2 crisis? What about the Shagamu crisis? They were battling with you guys on your own land which is very far from the north, while back in Kano they slaughtered every yoruba on sight and finished off everything yoruba in Kano. Your people are still in prison for the sake of fighting hausas in Ife (defending their own land). What have you done? We are minority groups who were misplaced by the colonial masters, but you are a majority group being bossed and tossed by your own fellow majority group, is that not a shame?
The Igbos seem to be the only ones who have the guts to challenge Hausa-fulanis without fear, they have once stood their ground in Kano and defeated the hausas on their own soil.

See, i don't want to go into listing instances the numerous times Hausa-fulanis have fuccked yorubas up. I leave that to the Igbo keyboard warriors, with whom you guys always have such debates.

But let me tell you something you don't know cos you talked about Jos crisis. Do you know that in any Jos crisis or any major religious crisis in Jos, Kaduna, Kano, Zaria. Yorubas loose the most?? Why is this so? This is because Yorubas are almost equally divided religiously and another reason i'd say they are cowards.

Igbos and Northern christians instantly take sides against Hausa-fulani muslims whenever crisis starts and Igbos are ready to die to protect their businesses, so we make a good team and chase away every muslim from christian-dominated areas.
Yoruba muslims on the other hand are regarded as fake muslims by Hausas, so, Hausas waste them like no tomorrow and they are usually caught up against both religious divides, to the extent that yoruba muslims will start running to christian areas, because they prefer their fate with christians than against Hausas. Now, by the time you add up yoruba muslim casualty in both Hausa muslim and Christian areas and yoruba christians in muslim areas. The figures are something else.

Nasarawa gwong area of Jos used to be heavily dominated by Yoruba muslims before 2008 crisis, but Hausas chased them all away. The yorubas could not defend themselves, if it was Igbos, such would never have happened. Now, i know you will say ''Jos is not yoruba land, so why should they defend it?''. See, Jos is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in Nigeria cos during the Tin minning boom, many yoruba, Igbo, Hausa mine workers and their families were settled on ancestral lands in Jos by the British, so, these lands later ended up to be dominated by non-indigenes (most of whom never left Jos back to their homelands), this is why you find 3rd and even 4th generation yorubas, igbos, hausas, deltans in Jos. Now, igbos lost some of their areas during the civil war when they all left Jos and this was how hausas expanded their own areas more.

No need for me to explain further. Well, if you haven't travel to northern cities, do so and get the shock of your life with the yoruba population you find there.

Look at this link below where your own yoruba leader in Jos confirmed about 156 yorubas that died in the 2010 Jos crisis. Another link i saw somewhere estimated about 400 yorubas to have died in the 2008 crisis.

https://www.nairaland.com/405771/yoruba-lost-156-lives-property

Guy, at first i was deceived by your claims of objectivity not until you said hausas were battling yorubas in shagamu, lol, shagamu of all places. ... It was a one sided fight, many of the Northerners were murdered.. When the whole country was crying and lamenting about fulani herdsmen, my Ile-ife brothers massacred hausa-fulanis in Ile-ife.... And don't think people from Plateau state are not exempted from this killings, an average yoruba man see you guys as hausa-fulani as long as you can speak hausa.


And nobody is in prison for the Ile-ife crisis, the case is now in Oshogbo

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/06/ife-hausa-yoruba-clash-court-grants-oba-ademiluyi-others-n5m-bail/

Aregbesola better wise up.. You don't joke with the people

This is good

Jetleeee:
Then we have the Akpe language that is neither Yoruboid nor Edoid. It just stands on its own. The language is spoken in Daja, Efifa, Akunu, Gedegede, Ibaramu, Iyani. They don't even understand each other in these places. The language is the same but they have different dialects lol

Egbon, akoko ni ede ti daru lol, .. I understand ikarre dialect but i don't understand that of arigidi... Anybody from ikarre should be able to understand the dialect of ugbe and akungba

Who be d yeye mod wey carry dis nonsense put for front page?

I like the Ibadan dialect especially when it's used to abuse Or mock someone

MrMaestro:
I believe we should migrate this to Yorubapatapo.com. The derailers are getting annoying.

Yorubaparapo

pazienza:
Lol! Epinmi, Ipe, Isua speak Yoruba language?

Can we put that to test?

I'd write in Ipe Now, and let me see you interprete it in Yoruba.

Then I'd write in Epinmi and see you do the same.

Well since we are now being pedantic.
It's Epinmi not Epimmi, it's Ikare not Ikarre

Ipesi speaks same language with gini? Lol!

You are obviously a stranger to these places.

Anyway, tell me when you are ready to pick up my challenge on interpreting those languages since you said they are Yoruba.

It's like you are da*t, I already told you akoko has diverse dialects, I gave examples of dialects that seems intelligible to one another.. I'm from Ikarre-Akoko, Arigidi is not far from ikarre and yet i don't understand Arigidi's dialect very well. . That's just to tell you how akoko is when it comes to dialects.. Akoko doesn't have a central dialect.. Someone from ajowa, akunnu might find it difficult to understand ipesi dialect but you are a potopoto boy, so i don't expect you to know akoko dialects

Like i said earlier, go to Efinmi and tell them their dialect is Edoid and see if you are not sacrificed to the gods of the land.

I'm done replying you

pazienza:
Lol! Uninformed folks deceiving themselves.

Nobody in Isua, Epinmi, Ipesi, Ifira, Ipe, Sosan speak Yoruba as a first language.
They all speak and understand Yoruba fluently, and answer Yoruba names too, but Yoruba language is not their first language.
Their first language are Edoid languages, I had once lived amongst these people for months, and as such have a first hand info on the people.


By the way, Ikare, Akungba, Oka, Iwaro-Oka, Oke agba, Oba, all the way down to Arigidi are pure Yoruba towns that speak your dialects of Yoruba language as their first language, and then standard Yoruba when interacting with other Yorubas.

You are not done revising the Nigerian civil war history and other ones in which you have dedicated your time to... It's akoko history you want to revise now.. Lol.. Epimmi, ifira down to ikakumo and igashi speak different yoruba dialects.. Ikarre, Ugbe and akungba speak same yoruba dialect .arigidi and erusu speak same dialect ipesi, Epimmi and ifira dialects is almost the same with ido-ani.. Akoko has diverse dialects but Nothing like Edo dialect here.. Ikarre is very close to arigidi but they speak different dialects.. although some of akoko dialects has little influence from edo languages and this is due to trade.. Places like Epimmi and Ifira are very close to ibilo, igarra in akoko Edo, Edo state.. if you go there and tell them that they don't speak yoruba as first language, they might sacrifice you to the gods

And it's not Oke agba, it's oke agbe


Normally, I shouldn't be responding to you because everybody knows it's your duty to distort history and give new identities to people. . I'm replying you because I'm related to akoko and i can't allow one potopoto boy from abakaliki to come here and distort our history

Na wa oooo

Na potopoto people dey dominate ashawo work. . na part of their 99% properties be dat for lagos.


Awon wayray

sean1000x:
Ode...you are a mumu. That's why they are called secret service...can operate with detection. Go and study about MOSSAD...the most efficient intelligence and secret service in the world. If you watch the organization of Nnamdi Kanu security detail, you will know that MOSSAD is involved. They leave days before his plan events surveying every inch of the place with anti bomb and weaponry detecting devices. High tech surveillance in massive crowds. Powerful weapons seen with American and MOSSAD Secret service. Most are in crowds like ordinary people.

Lmao.. omo, this gat me laughing mehn

Lol, who wan kill Ebora owu? Potopoto people? .. Lol dem no born una well

jiorhemen:
No, this has nothing to do with Lugard's amalgamation. It's the military fiat state creation by the Gowons, Murtalas, Babangidas, and Abachas. All are northern Generals

Okun inclusion in the northern region predates independence. They were under kabba province in the defunct northern region

BabaO2:
You sure he did? It was ibb that messed up Nigeria with creation of such states for his power manipulation plan.

Okun were under the kabba province in the defunct northern region prior to independence

almarthins:
I think u r d one high on high calibre Moroccan weeds. Dem say make una go school una no gree go. See as u dey Bleep up with history.na luggard divide Nigeria into states or d military?. Check d old northern region map

My friend shut up.. Some of you are just dumb.. Okun people were under the defunct northern region.. They were classified under kabba province same with kwara

You this history419 guy, you have been hanging around a thread that has nothing to do with you for the past few days... A thread about an head-hoe girl based in Italy made front page yesterday.. She's about to run mad and she's suspected to have contacted HIV . One would have expected you to be on that thread but here you are.. We have told you guys as far back as page one of this thread that head-hoe people are not included..

. Prostitution, human trafficking are social problems.. And we don't want such problems

laudate:
Isua, Epinmi, Ipesi, etc, in Akoko area of Ondo State speak a Yoruba dialect, and they all bear Yoruba names. I spent 2 years carrying out a project in Ikare-Akoko which was not far from Isua. Some of the best pounded yam I ever ate was from that side! There is nothing Edoid about them, o! Don't let anyone deceive you with their tales by moonlight on this thread. Some of them are well known for ascribing a false identity to other ethnic groups, except their own...

Wow, my paternal grand mother is from ikarre-akoko.. ilepa side of the town.. You are correct, isua is not far from ikarre and arigidi even though dialect differs a little bit. . And they don't speak any Edo nonsense .. I understand the ikarre dialect perfectly well but can only speak little..

I trust fashola