₦airaland Forum

obowunmi:
That probably explains why they are in so much debt.
You are fined almost 500,000 per hour for delaying your flight. Arik must be raking up these fines. I personally, have never had problems with them.

Really I think they do not pay for these delays, as much of it is caused by FAAN and NAMA failure to maintain the airports.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=837675.msg9900908#msg9900908 date=1325773626]The Police That Killed Muyideen Mustafa Has Been Stoned To Death In Illorin Kwara today

This is serious[/quote]Source please,

DRANOEL:
@belabela

and we have not even talked about the 2.7m liters unsubsidised locally refined oil yet! and the muami guy is here with averages

Point of correction: NNPC is only allocated 450,000pbd for local consuption of which they currently get approximately 10million PMS based on the words of the Minister that the Refineries operate currently at 30% utilization capacity and they are hoping to push it to 50% in 18months time,

@ Point B,
The struggle will fund itself, that is what history has always shown, if people get to a stage where they think the government is not willing to listen, then the INDIVIDUALs in government becomes the victim of the protest!

The beauty of this protest unlike other protest in Nigeria in the past, is that the people want to OCCUPY NIGERIA and starve government off funds! Right now any sane investor wanting to do business with the FG will be reassessing her position and holding back. Did I hear you ask who will be the end loser?, Nigerians, nope, After the revolt, and the establishment is shaken, the government would be forced to listen and act as the people wants!

muami:
Can you clarify/expantiate on the bolded?
On the issue of membership of NLC, nobody iv a direct member of NLC, every NLC member is first a member of an affiliate. so whats your point?

Okay, let me explain a little. Every FG agency that 'monitor' and report back what the MOMs and IPMs expend on importation of PMS are agency under the Ministry of Petroleum Resources, but the final payment is done via accounts held by NNPC because NNPC is authorized in law to do oil business on behalf of the Nigerian nation. So the fuel subsidy is actually deducted at source from the sales of crude oil, hence the reason they have been able to expend over N1tn unbudgeted funds on subsidy scam!

The CBN only gets the paper work from NNPC, then authorize the payments to these "oil" importers, the CBN does not know how NNPC has arrived at the sums, as really that is barely the job of the CBN, but of course, you know how Nigeria works, those guys in NNPC would make provision for the guys in CBN so that when discripancies are spotted, blind eyes are paid to it and the 'business as usual' thingy carrys on!

The truth is: If the FG know those who have fleeced the state and refuse to bring them to justice, then the FG is telling us that we do not have a government that can protect and defend our laws! This I call modern day madness in governance!

Akintola11:
What Nigeria needs is the removal!! how will we grow and industrialize if we carry on this mass payment that in all honesty only helps the upper class, smugglers and all those who only care for their pocket!

a good article worth reading!-------> www.thinkafricapress.com/nigeria/blog/week-nigeria-subsidy-withdrawn

You think the same people that 'screwed up' the subsidy would not end up being beneficiary of the 'INFLATED' contracts that would be awarded from the 'IMGINERY' savings the FG touts about?

As the protest linger on, the issue would shift from subsidy to a complete overhaul of government in Nigeria. CORRUPTION is cankerworm that has endanger our development as a Nation and GEJ has shown no sign whatsoever that He is prepared to eliminate it from the system. Infact since He took over, Institutionalization of Corruption gather momentum and all that the Nigerian masses have gotten in return for the Patience and trust they had in GEJ was lip service, lies, deceit and propanganda!

Fix up the corruption in the System and you would not be talking about subsidy!, oh by the way, can you help GEJ explain why subsidy which was barely N390bn before He took over sky rocketed to N1.37bn within 6months , Who prepared the 2010, 2011 budgets? How did they arrive at the N360bn estimate and how come the differential from the actual cost is above N1tn? MADNESS

What do you make of a Presidency that budgets N1.2bn for Feeding?, When newspapers are going electronic, and with all their ipads, Samsung galaxy, why on earth is the Presidency spending millions on newspaper when the average Nigerian can not feed three times daily

Last year, a Near Gulf Stream 5 worth N7.5bn was bought for the exclusive use of the wife of the President!, GEJ can show He means well for Nigerians by selling of that jet and using the money to construct 3 World class Hospital in Nigeria!

londoner:
Omo_tier, lol


For every supposed "freeby" in the UK someone else pays for.

You talk of subsidized transport, have you thought about how it is paid for? Before you say "government", think about how the government comes about those funds.

Have you never asked yourself with the minute number of people that qualify for free travel, why the cost of travel for EVERYONE ELSE goes up EVERY YEAR?

There is no free education or healthcare for the majority of people per se, it is free AT THE POINT OF NEED.

I am proud and happy to be from a society which provides this and am happy to be one of the taxpayers, the mindset makes the difference. I don't expect to get something for nothing or to be carried by my government. I don't expect them to abuse me either.

Nigerians need to strike that balance personally, between not being taken for a ride and not expected to be carried by their government. It takes an amount of personal pride in yourself and your country. Maybe generally this is lacking.

@Topic, Nigerians need to make sure these unions do not hijack what is supposed to be a peoples revolt. They should be following your suit/wishes not the other way around. Many are simply on an ego trip.

@precious G, your idea hits the nail on the head directly. If people are to protest they should make sure it is for a lasting change. At the moment there are too many contradictions flying around about this protest. I guess it is a start.

Dude, we PAY WITH OUR TAXES!, That is the essence of government collecting HIGHER TAXES from the upper enchelon in the society to fund SENSIBLE social projects that would mean suffering in the land is reduced!

The reduced Buss pass to OAP and Students are funded from TAXES whatever form they come! Our FG collect ALL sorts of TAXES from the citizens and they citizens get nothing back!

As your relatives back home, before they get their pay, government removes first the TAX due her, why then should the citizens not benefit from SENSIBLE social projects from the government? , electronically certified Ode called beaf calls it freebies, really it is not it is called sustainable balance of welath and equity amongst the citizenry and if properly managed, you can get alot of people into a social standing that your economy grow with sustainable development!

klas:
The minister was supposed to spare with ubani on face-off on channels yesternight. He dodged and surfaced this morning to debate with himself.

I watched it yesterday, the Health Minister did not show up! That Ubani of a guy was ready to "chew up" the Health Minister, the Guy said He wanted Sanusi or Ingozi and not the Health minister, meaning, the guy sees the Helath Minister as too lame to talk about the issue of subsidy!

beaf, wait until this protest explode, we will fish you out from your hiding , Protest already MASSIVE in BENIN CITY, London mobilization is ongoing, ha ha, hope they would claim SHELL paid London Protesters , A government of deciet, full of liars and cheats! Abuja mobilization is underground, wait for the MASSIVE MASSIVE protest that will engulf Abuja next coming days!! We were not scared of the guns of the Military then We will not be scared now,

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=837675.msg9900271#msg9900271 date=1325767012]More from benin

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muami:
This question is a very pertinent question and when you get the answer to the questions, you were understand how the subsidy fraud works. If you really need answers, look for an article by simon kolawole in Thisday sometime ago where he analysed these issues. Just to add that all the regulatory bodies saddled with the responsibility of ascertaining the quantity of oil and determining entitlement to subsidy payment are manned by the same NLC members that are calling for strike/protests. In other words, the same NLC members would help marketers to inflate the figures they are entitled in exchange for filthy lucre are the same people protesting against the removal of subsidy

Near truth but not fully it!, NLC is not NUPENG, but they are affiliates of NLC. NLC at the top have been asking the DPR for their pricing template and not until late last year, DPR refused to release their template. When they eventually did, that was when the whole lid blew on the massive fraud on subsidy and fuel importation in the country!

FYI, Fuel subsidy is managed by NNPC and they pay directly at source contrary to what we Nigerians are made to believe - Senate committee findings!

Oshiomole must come out and join the Protest!!, I know activist in Edo can not be coward by the Police, Edolites stand up for your right!!

llbhuds:
if u know dis,  then tell him to go and try another country. try to call a spade a spade and stop dribbling biko

Rudeness,  hnmmmm strong word

You know,  I have met people like you in real life,  you slag others but you equally is as filthy as those you'r slagging! With the few post I have had with you,  you come across as someone who is innately rude,  and I guess someone like me would really want to ask you any questions bothering on immigration.

Least I remind you, you are not a qualified and experienced UK Immigration Solicitors, so why not present your response that leaves the OP with the final decision? Like I said in one of my post in here, there was poster that came in here to post seeking advice and same rash response was given to that person. The person went ahead to contact a UK immigration Solicitors and today that person is in the UK after an appeal. So let us not act as if we are saints and that we know it all!

llbhuds:
intentional mistakes abi?
over stayin your visa is not a mistake biko,   ask him if he traveled to the uk earlier b4 the validity of his visa began.
if he does, then i can believe that this is a mistake.

I think people like you are reasons some people find it difficult when they come here and they can't pour out their hearts to get REAL help. You seems not to understand that Immigration and Travels are a sensitive issue, and if you are going to assist people, I do not think giving rash response will do just that.

No boDy is condoning overstaying, but I think there are better ways you can assist someone to understand their situation that your rash comments below. Yes, S/He should not have overstayed, Yes S/He should not have engaged in conducts that warrant Police caution but that does not give you the leverage to respond to people query with rash or seemingly rude response.

jenny2007:
Hello guys,
Thanks for your response. @vicjustice, pls there is no need to be rude here at all. We are all addults and should behave likewise by respecting each other's opinion -whether you agree with them or not. You really don't have to call anyone names pls, that is just rude!
@omo_tier, I applied for a short -term (6mnth) visit visa. My previous visa was a 2years student visa (2001-03). I do not have any conviction or debts in the UK though I know I have had a caution by the metro poli. over a fight at school with a white girl during my A'levels. I was 17 at the time. I think the embassy only discovered that I overstayed through the caution because they mentioned it. According to them, 'I was cautioned after my visa had expired which shows I was in uk up to six months after my visa expired'.

Hi ya Jenny,
Haven read your lastest post and I have made a few enquiries, it will not be an easy task to get your ban lifted through JR 'cos of your caution. The HO will use that against your character before the judge.

But do not let this discourage you from contacting an Imigration Solicitors in the UK. There some that offer advice onine.

llbhuds:
Sebi dem say person weh no get mama no dey get wound for him back.  ?
your visa expire and u dey go fight like say God dey your back abi?
UK no dey stamp out nd I no knw y guys no dey use der head to utilize dat chance to lay low.
so vicjustice and CO make una go help d guy beg for home office and BHC for naija ooooo

Look sometimes, humans make mistake, and I believe you have in your life, so lets leave out that and give her the advice she came her for.

Dis Guy:
international lfights are usually not as disruptive as their local service, the stories of 7 hour flights delays, complicated refunds procedure, aggressive staff plenty

their international flight is like others really

I think it is down to several factors some of which are beyond Arik Air. When you have a country where "Presidential movement" can lock down an airport for as long as 1Hr.30mins, or where Airport is like the Waitrose shop in Heathrow or Manchester airports and you want to cram hundreds of people and lauggage into it, how on earth will flights boarding and departure be orderly?

When I flew them locally last december, i.e., Arik, they had to delay the flight by 1Hr, but they could not explain to the intending travellers why they had to delay it, and they were unable to say if the next flight would even take-off. But at the end it did and the flight boarding and departure was exactly 1Hr after the actual departure time.

Wait until they cripple the stock exchange and most financial institutions that rely internet for their activities!

***signing out****
1 day to go, THE WILLING are willing, only COWARDS take the back seat !

Siena:
Interesting. Let's hope the protest is peaceful, and doesn't turn nasty and violent.

No big deal out of this protest, Nigerians have held several protest in London in recent past and the Met Police had a niceday out! Hence the reason they gave us this permit. Nigerians in the UK know too well that violent protest is never condoned in London and usually, when Nigerians protest, it is always colourful which makes alot of people to ask questions why they are protesting and leaflets are distributed to educate those that show keen interest!

Beaf:
^
You are very daft. How many people pay taxes in Nigeria?
You start by claiming that Nigerians pay taxes and end by stating that there is no reason Nigerians should pay tax; thats why you are a self-contradicting hypocrite.

Lazy, hypocritical, freebie demanding phuck.

Let me ginger your docile brain abit, ight! Nigeria boast of over 135,000 armed forces member, and the government besdie the armed forces employ well over 200,000 workers in Nigeria. This figure was far higher than this before Obasanjo did mass retrenchment, remember?, so ever since, these people paid their taxes, some double, and infact, some were not paid salaries at all!, What did the government do with all those moneies? Oh, lets not even go into the other forms of taxes paid by the Nigerian worker! I asked you this before, are you aware that under the FERMA act of 2007, for ever litre of PMS you buy at pump price there is a percentage that goes to FERMA as tax? What did the FG do with it?, Obasanjo cleverly brought about that idea so that FERMA can have funds to maintain the Federal Highway, but what has become of it today? Femi Falana made a FOI request about this issue an what was the reply He got from the FG/FERMA, ?

Any sensible leadership would know that the greatest welath of a nation is her population because when you engage them meaningfully, money would flow in your coffers for infrastructural development. Has it dawn on you also that since GEJ and His croonies came on board very little has been heard of the aggressive taxation embacked upon by Obj? SLOWPICO I hear you say

Pain:
What blind peeps are yet to realize is that the #occupynigeria movement is not under the umbrella of any of these established unions etc. They are united in one cause. The NLC & TUC have their own important role to play in the realization of these common objectives.

Help me shine the lights in their eyes, 'cos like you said, they are 'blind',

Adanora:
Don't get too excited. Wait till midnite of 8th if dey will nt call it off. All dis na garagara just for dem to b settled

I hope you will also go and settle those protesting in Kano right now as we speak

Beaf:
You are talking very stup!dly and failing to connect with common sense. Every step has a beginning, there was a time that faeces and urine were flung through windows unto the streets in London, leading to the bubonic plague; but the people still religiously paid their taxes and did a solid days work for their pay. Work ethic is ingrained in that culture, you do not fight foolishly for freebies in the UK. The UK where you pay huge fuel taxes has come a long way from demanding that there should be no pay without work and no food without sweat.

If you get no freebies in the UK and it is one of the reasons everything works and they are developed, why would you want freebies and underdevelopment in Nigeria? Only hypocrites act that way.

Why would you pay fuel taxes that make up more than half the pump price in the UK, only to pop out as a lazy, hypocritical, freebie demanding phuck as soon as you land at MMA?

Perhaps you are the one that is talking very Stuupidly! For how many years has the Nigerian worker been paying taxes? What have they gotten in return from the government?

FYI, there are lots of freebies in the UK that is why most of Nigerians are claiming asylum here! It is also those that are not classed as 'belonging' that can't get the freebies! Oh need I remind you, can you get an MRI or CT scan for free in any Nigerian hospital? Do you know there are free rail and buss pass? Are you aware that student buss pass are subsidized by most local councils here? Even foreign students benefit from it! Any the need do is get their rail or buss pass with their NUS card and whoops they get a discount over 3.75%

Ask those trolley pushing Nigerian mummies in Hackney, Lambeth, Woolsworth, Islington, Brixton, etc and they will tell you the freebies they enjoy here!

Can I also remind you that distorting history is not the best way to go! The Brits started paying taxes long before you were born and it did not start during the days of 'Black London' okay!

Let me tell you another freebie you may not be aware off. Under the 'Iron Lady' Madam M, she pass a law that for every foreigner in a UK university will pay His/her tuition and that of two home students! Hence foreign students are subsidizing the tuition fees of home students to an extent! So tell me why any sane citizen wouldn't want to pay His/her taxes?

And sorry, when I land at MMA,, you know what I get?, your GEJ puppet Immigration and Customs criminal would ask: Any dollars or Pounds for the guys , is that what you want to pump more taxes into?, Institutionalized corruption

4 Play:
Why are there no strike actions when elections are stolen or against corruption but instead we have a strike called in response to the removal of an economically unjustifiable policy, fuel subsidy?

I have always noticed that the most boneheaded policy decisions - the Udorji awards, nationalisation of industries, fuel subsidy - elicit the most public support. It's almost evidence of Dr Lynn's work on IQ and the Wealth of Nations which shows that nations like Nigeria with relatively low IQs stay poor.

I have been on this forum for more than 5 years and seen thieving moguls like Peter Okocha, Adenuga and Otedola, who benefit from these Govt policies, praised to high heavens for their wealth yet as soon as there is a change of policy, it becomes a massive blow against the common man. And you wonder why this country is a hellhole.

Oh, had NLC called for Massive strike over the 101% turn out for a certain Presidential candidate wouldn't you COWARDS call NLC pesident a CPC agent

Government all over the world are making deep cuts to government expenditure but what do we have in Nigeria, Mr. President and His vice wants to feed with a whooping N1.3bn, and you want the masses to make sacrifices?, Classical Monkey dey work chimpy dey chop

Beaf:
Are you going to do that from the UK where you are hypocritically paying heavy fuel taxes?
60% of the UK pump price of fuel is tax, so why not carry out an id!ots "revolution" in the there?

I know you are an electronically certified Ode like your pay Master! Injustice here are met with protest! Remember the huge Union strike and protest over pensions? What did the government do,  let me educate you abit, the UK government basically raised pensionable age up by a few years,  and raised contributory amount by a few pounds,  guess what,  it was rejected flat out! If it was in Nigeria with folks with docile brains like yours,  gosh,  you would have called the names and haul insults at the Unions,  but they were backed by the public and today the government is having a big re-think of the pension policy initially put out.

Get real wiggyy,  We pay taxes here 'cos we get good value for it! When I see a wiggy i.diot like you doing my garden,  I give the police a call I get response within 8mins! I bet you ever dream to get such 'service' ight? That is what a responsible government do offer their citizens. What has your puppet master GEJ done with the taxes and revenues that have accrued to the FG accounts since He became President? Or has it not dawn on you that it was during His reign that Fue lSubsidy sky rocket dramatically to N1.3tn?,  COWARD OF A MAN!

babsjnr:
Fck d protest I will be @ work making my £100 per hour.I don't have 2 waste on nigerian excreta country

This is how we know the illegal worker in the UK, ha ha £100/hr my foot!

bombay:
Any attempt to intimidate Jonah boy you people would not believe the swift action. Full deregulation of the economy, passing PIB, then resource control next.
The cabal are mostly Yoruba with there Fulani masters.
If you people do not want wahala leave Jonah to do his work or else.
Nigerians are bloody lazy and daft they look up to the western world do you know the sacrifice the people in the west make do you know how much they pay here.
You have to live within your means.
The same vigor they using to fighting subsidy they should use it to fight the upper chambers.
Matchew

Quite dude, Jonathan would be removed if He does not stem the tide of the protest and 'they' will get another ND to replace him

Beaf:
I wonder what it will acheive, people are stretched by the subsidy removal, yet NLC is asking them to stay at home for periods they will not be paid for.
Nobody will lose their January salary after huge Xmas expenses.

Bro, do not shed tears yet, wait on till you hear "Jonathan must go" on the street before you know what NLC intends to achieve by paralyzing the Economy.

ignis:
U guys should come down to naija and protest,

Look did you see the statement from #occupyworld yesterday?