₦airaland Forum

Osama10:
Are they not going to share this money among themselves or create fake names?

We have JAMB and NYSC records so it won't be easy to forge. Unemployed graduates need this.

FL Gators:
I'm not going to bring my hopes up. I dont trust these ppl anymore.

Yes I know (was thinking the same thing ), nevertheless, it has never happened before in Nigeria. It was always about stealing our money using some of the most crafty strategies. At least they are finally remembering the people. If not today, then tomorrow. Someday.

I'm happy that one of the things I've argued for here is receiving attention.

Senate proposes N15,000 monthly salaries for unemployed graduates, aged

ABUJA — UNEMPLOYED graduates in the country may soon start earning between N10,000 and N15,000 monthly salaries as a Bill seeking to provide social security for unemployed graduates and the aged scaled through a second reading yesterday at the Senate.

The Bill, entitled “An Act to provide social security for unemployed graduates and aged in Nigeria,” sponsored by Senator Anyim Udeh, has earmarked N12.7 billion for the scheme.

Leading the debate on the floor of the Senate, Senator Udeh said creating social security infrastructure for the aged and the unemployed graduates would curb crimes and other social vices, including reduction of mortality rate.

He said: “The social security Bill is in compliance with section 14 of the 1999 Constitution. It is more so, because over 70 per cent of our people live below poverty level. Creating the social security scheme in which unemployed graduates and the aged will have minimum wage to live on will help tackle the problem of poverty.”

Disclosing the cost implication of the scheme, Udeh told the Senators that an estimated N77 billion would be needed to run the scheme between 2011 and 2015 if the Bill was passed.

The Bill received the support of the Senators, but most of them warned against the abuse of the scheme and expressed fears on the ability of the Federal Government to implement it.

Senator Grace Bent (PDP, Adamawa South) in her support for the bill, decried the high rate of poverty in Nigeria and absence of social security scheme to address the problems of the less-privileged.

Bent said: “Nigeria, before now, should have had this sort of legislation. A government that has vision and love for the people at heart should have this legislation. This Bill will solve the social security problems all over the place and reduce mortality rate in the country.”

Before the second reading of the bill, President of the Senate, Senator David Mark while expressing concern on the rising number of unemployed graduates called for caution in the implementation process.

He said: “We need to worry about the level of unemployment in the country. We need to worry about those going without a dime in their pockets. This Bill is not only for the unemployed graduates or the aged, every Nigerian should be able to have a platform that will guarantee him better living conditions.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/04/senate-proposes-n15000-monthly-salaries-for-unemployed-graduates-aged/

So, as I was saying, the direct contemporary import of Awolowo's Yoruba indoctrination is that Jonathan would do well not to count on Yoruba votes, else he would be leaning on an unreliable tree. He must plan outside western votes. Igbo votes can be split as history shows. Western votes cannot, thanks to Awolowo.
All it takes is for a northerner to add a Yoruba to his ticket.

If a northerner picks a Yoruba Vice presidential candidate, he could win even if Igbo vote for Jonathan because the Yoruba would likely vote for one of their own en masse. If a northerner picks an Igbo vice, he is not likely to get block Igbo votes because Ndigbo are tired of playing second fiddle in Nigeria. The way Jonathan wins is to convince the north to vote for him, then with Igbo votes and some south south votes, we will win.

SEFAGO:
Who were the candidates- I dont want to know the name of the parties. Please list them carefully.

I have a feeling someone is going to get whacked. Please show me each group in each election year and tell me if it can be argued that the Yorubas voted for someone of inferior candidacy. Obasanjo though is an interesting case I must say.

Actually, I hope you don't expect me to allow you to keep stringing me along. What are you smoking tonite, kid?

The bolded is the GIST of the whole thing.

That is why I'm afraid for Jonathan. I've been scratching my head, crunching the numbers to see how he wins next year, but it just doesn't add up. The Igbo would vote for him. Some middle belters may vote for him alongside some south south people. The far north and core north would not vote for him. Without Yoruba votes, he cannot win outright.

This is why I'm lamenting Awolowos evil seed.

lol@ Becomerich.

SEFAGO:
Please list the opposing parties or other options. Where there any better options?

Okay, here we go, there was NCNC, NPC (50s and 60s); there was NPN, NPP (1979 -1983); without Abiola leading the SDP candidacy, we don't know whether the west would have voted for SDP in 1993. AD failed to field a presidential candidate because of Obasanjo, that was big deal.   In any case, there was ANPP and APGA. If Ojukwu is an anathema in the west, what about Buhari or Atiku? You don't vote other tribes, simple. The last time was before the carpet crossing incident, all these are thanks to the "ingenuity" of Awolowo. The guy destroyed southern unity.

bk/babe97:
"NOT TRYIN'"? Darlin', u damn sure didnt "TRY", U licked it clean; crust n all!!! Lol. Someone actually saw reason with Onlylies point? lol. This ho is laughable!

Your mother is THE HO!

SEFAGO:
1. How many elections have we had in Nigeria for you to be shouting
2. How many really viable igbo candidates have been presented. We cannot just vote like zombies you know.

The question should be: Apart from AG (Awo), UPN (Awo), SDP (under Abiola candidacy), AD (Olu falae), and PDP (under Obasanjo candidacy); which other party did the Yoruba ever vote for en masse in the history of elections in Nigeria?

FL Gators:
Not trying to lick azz, but OnlyTruth, I'm really impressed by your maturity on this topic. Plz teach EzeUche/SEFAGO some lessons. they lets their emotions overrule their reasoning. Not good for a mature debate.

You're welcome doll, I'll try my best with Ezeuche, he is my son and he is smart, but Sefago is almost hopeless. He (Sefago) is a smart boy, but he refuses to apply his brains to something constructive. I'll still try tho.

All these self serving idiots from the west claiming that Awolowo -by picking Umeadi as his vice- demonstrated his spirit of fairness and cosmopolitanism, you guys gotta be kidding me! What else did you expect him to do?

Have you ever seen a hunter go hunting without a gun? Or a farmer going to his farm without a hoe or some other farm equipment? Awolowo picked Umeadi for purely selfish reasons, he wanted to split the Igbo votes and in doing so win the elections. He knew he couldn't split northern votes, so he went for the Igbo. Unfortunately for him, he failed in his bid because NPP under Zik swept the East, NPN came second, no chance at all for the treacherous devil.

The chief question for you revisionists is this: Have the Yoruba ever voted for a non-Yoruba candidate in presidential elections since the carpet crossing incidence of the early 1950s?

Since Awo took over the West, which non-Yoruba has ever won in Yorubaland over a Yoruba son? Even in 2003 AD (the Yoruba party) did not field a candidate in the presidential elections because of Obasanjo the PDP candidate.

So, I reiterate that Awolowo sowed an evil seed which destroyed southern Nigeria. He did so in the 50s, 60s and 70s. He was an unrepentant tribalist. Great tribal leader.

Cohomology:
Typical Yoruba fool!

hehehe

mikeansy:
[b]Nelson Mandela was not a Zulu and neither was Thabo Mbeki [/b]and they were once number 1, before Zuma.
Even though Zulus are the undisputed majority.

Your claims to Igbos being the majority in Nigeria are simply not supported by records because there are no records as at yet. May be you should start by calling for a more credible census.

I am no less Igbo than you are, I do not wish the Igbos any lesser fortunes than you do. All I say is that some of you guys should chill and sense the world around you.

Do you know why Alex Samond did not stand for Prime Minister of UK even though he was the leader of SNP? He still believes in achieving an independent scotland.

You come here make a lot of noise about Ojukwu without being able to read his body language. Ojukwu stood for elections for President of Nigeria. That tells me Ojukwu has moved on, why can't you? The natural ingenuity of Igbos will take of Igbos and so there is no need for all this noise by folks like you. You are just making life dificult for Igbo politicians by some of the crap you guys type here. I wish you can understand this.

Exactly! They are both XHOSA. Do you know what Xhosas are known for in South Africa? Apart from being the second single largest tribe, they are like Ndigbo. They are the hardest working and most enterprising black South Africans. So, why are they leading South Africa, while you are here apologizing on behalf of the oppressors of your people? Shameless goons.

Let me say this again: Igbo cosmopolitanism personified by the likes of Mikeansy is the biggest threat to the survival of Ndigbo in Nigeria.

Open your eyes brothers.

Let's stick to APGA.

Andre Uweh:
The Yoruba has a large population in Nigeria. I think they are at par with Ndigbo. Not too sure about the Hausa-Fulani. If only the Hausa, I think they are a little bit less than the other two.

So if the Igbo are at par with the Yoruba for instance (two of the largest tribes) why are the Yoruba occupying the third position while Ndigbo are occupying the 5th? The simple answer is: PDP led by Obasanjo, Mikeansy's godfather.

mikeansy:
I hope so too. But right now your conclusions are based on assumptions and I can only hope you understand the limits of your postulations.

My conclusions are not based on assumptions, they are based on common sense. In Nigeria, Ndigbo are the largest tribe after the indigenes of every state in Nigeria. I guess we are having this argument because we would never know since Obasanjo stopped it! What was he afraid of? Remember that Ohanaeze Ndigbo made a strong case for inclusion of tribal information in the census forms. Why did Obasanjo refuse?

So, the world is not all about me, but democracy the world over is based on population. Go to South Africa and tell a Zulu, or a Xhosa that he would be number 5 in the leadership hierarchy of the country and see what you get.

Why is Nigeria different in the most crucial index of development. Any wonder why nothing works.  

mikeansy:
Onlytruth

what is the basis of your statistics?

Have you conducted a credible census in Nigeria before?

The world is not all about you all the time, this is why people fail. If you can realise this you will know how to rationalize issues.

You have made noise for 30years and got nothing out of it. May be it is time to be a little pragmatic and think of what works.

I wish your boss OBJ allowed us to find out! He was scared of that, so he killed it.

I happen to be in a profession that gather and manage statistics (won't say more than that), and I know that Ndigbo are arguably the single largest tribe in Nigeria.

In any case, I wish we conduct a credible census which allows for collection of such vital information. Or is tribe not a vital information? People die in Nigeria yearly because of tribe. All developed countries collect such information.

Primitive Nigeria still refuse to collect it.

@ 006,
I don't know what APGA leadership is doing now, do you have latest on them? That party was more aggressive during the Chekwas Okorie chairmanship era. I don't know why Victor Umeh is not as aggressive in marketing APGA in the south east as Okorie. APGA remains our surest way of attaining our goals either in Nigeria or out of Nigeria. If we unite under that party, we can defeat all plots against Ndigbo in Nigeria. PDP is a trap. We can support Jonathan (if he plays ball) next year by not fielding a presidential candidate for APGA, but we must not vote for any other party for other offices.  

Bros 006,

I think you should allow Mikeansy to continue in his self delusion about Igbo fate in Nigeria. He is an Obasanjo boy. What does that tell you? For him to quip that number 5 position is good for Ndigbo in Nigeria says it all. He is apparently scared that other tribes are ganging up against Ndigbo, but he wants us to keep our heads firmly inside the sand! Until one day, we will wake up to find that we've lost everything.

To support your position, I have no doubt in my mind that Ndigbo can get all they really need in Nigeria if they vote in block and enmasse for ONE party, especially a party they control like APGA. All we need to do is vote and ensure that ALL Igbo governors, state houses of assembly, federal reps and senators are all APGA. If we can achieve that, sit back and watch as we get everything we want in Nigeria. PDP is the biggest trap against Ndigbo.

To Mikeansy, I don't know about you, but I am not comfortable with being number 5 in Nigeria because of two solid reasons:

1) Ndigbo are arguably the single biggest tribe in Nigeria, if you doubt me, ask your godfather Obasanjo why he rejected tribal demographics in the last census forms.

2) We are the most hardworking and enterprising tribe in Nigeria. We are like the engine of the train called Nigeria. To ask us to accept fifth position is to argue for the engine of a train to be placed fifth in the coach line.
That would be ludicrous wouldn't you say?

chinaaman:
World Cup: Nigeria Vs Argentina. 12th June 2010 @ 3:00pm

With what we saw regarding the warm up match between Nigeria and Saudi Arabia, my guess is to give our opening  match to the Argentines.  So we better talk about the scores.

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[img width=358 height=481]http://i50.tinypic.com/kdwgo9.jpg[/img]

Your line up is missing Sani Kaita in the defensive midfield. Please revise!

Watching the video clearly shows it was faked. The Okija shrine has no modern fence. It is in the middle of a forest. How do you create a shrine by just throwing two pieces of cloths (black and red) over some banana plants and call it Okija shrine? Only buffoons would believe that crap.

FL Gators:
I''m seriously tired of my anti-tribalist talk on NL.
It's obvious that you ppl dont listen.
I dont care anymore. . . .

Calm down babe, you've gradually chiseled your way into my fortified spots. You're making impact, just that we still have a loooooooooooooong way to go. My peoples' past cosmopolitan tendencies cost us DEARLY, and I'm DETERMINED to never follow their past tendencies. No hard feelings.

And if I ever agreed to an independent Nigeria, a Cameroonian from Western Cameroon would have become the first Nigerian president. I'm gifted with strategic thinking. .  far ahead of the Ziks and the Awos of this world. No shaking.

If I was Zik, Nigeria would still be under British rule today. WTF.

[b]The clannish Yorubas [/b]will almost certainly reorganize to challenge the North and East once more. At week's end many a Nigerian was wondering how long his country's delicate balance of regional rivalries, which has been the key to Africa's most admired democracy, could last.

Unperturbed, Sir Abubakar, a Moslem from the North, went ahead with plans to convert Nigeria on Oct. 1 from a British dominion to a republic within the British Commonwealth. Sir Abubakar will remain the real boss. The changeover will merely install a ceremonial President as head of state to replace Queen Elizabeth, who is now sovereign.

Lol! The "only truth" in the article.

FL Gators:
Ok, the topix is more interesting than this

Gators, is that video real?

Chineke!

olafolarin:
Can you tell us what Zik did for Igbo people or Nigeria at large??

Ah! Ol boy the question should be: What didn't he do for Nigeria at the expense of Ndigbo?

Zik is the single founder of Nigeria, even northerners know.

I can list things

SEFAGO:
U will die from lack of sleep lol. You lose both ways hehe

U are already dead from your deep slumber. I'm not that lazy and I hardly lose.

^^
I'm still laughing. . He loved Nigeria like monkey love bananas and like goats love yams .