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PoliticsRe: Gbonigi Restates Call For Self-determination Of Yoruba by Onlytruth(op): 8:54am On Feb 26, 2010
“We Yoruba are ready to tell them that we are born equal. Democracy is for all and we need to let them know that we know our right. We are not leaving Nigeria, but every one must have access to his/her right without some tribe lording over others.

“We want self-determination in order to allow us have access to our resources. [b]We want to have control over our resources [/b]to develop at our own pace,” he stated
The recent discovery of GOLD in the south west is finally yielding expected dividends. I knew it won't be long before resource control agitations start there.

One Nigeria indeed!
PoliticsRe: Gbonigi Restates Call For Self-determination Of Yoruba by Onlytruth(op): 8:51am On Feb 26, 2010
I bought a HUGE pack of popcorn to start watching the games. Isn't it a blessing to be alive to witness these things. We live in amazing times. cool
PoliticsGbonigi Restates Call For Self-determination Of Yoruba by Onlytruth(op): 8:50am On Feb 26, 2010
RENOWNED cleric, Bishop Bolanle Gbonigi, has described the controversial return of President Umaru Yar’Adua to the country as a constitutional anomaly, calling for self-determination of the Yoruba as a means of actualising the progress of the race.

Speaking with newsmen at the end of the meeting of the Yoruba Unity Forum (formerly known as the Yoruba Legacy Forum) held, at the Ikenne home of the Awolowos on Thursday, the fiery cleric condemned the return of the president to the country under secrecy.

“What sort of country are we in, where the president was flown into the country in the early hours of the morning without the knowledge of the Acting President Goodluck Jonathan? Troops were deployed to man the airport without telling the acting president; who then is Jonathan commanding?”, he asked.
Stating that the acting president was still in the dark about the presence of the ailing president, the clergyman declared: “We are not fools. This country belongs to all of us, though the Fulani are saying that they were born to rule, but over who?

“We Yoruba are ready to tell them that we are born equal. Democracy is for all and we need to let them know that we know our right. We are not leaving Nigeria, but every one must have access to his/her right without some tribe lording over others.

“We want self-determination in order to allow us have access to our resources. We want to have control over our resources to develop at our own pace,” he stated

Also condemning the controversial return of the president, Chief Ebenzer Babatope, said that a situation whereby the country would be having a president and an acting president at the same time was unacceptable.

“We were all here praying for the quick recovery of the president. Since he has returned, if the president is fit, he can continue in his official capacity as the president, but if otherwise, the National Assembly should do its job and what is expected of it. It is not tidy to have a sick president who is not fit to rule,” he said.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/1898-gbonigi-restates-call-for-self-determination-of-yoruba.html
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:45am On Feb 26, 2010
ndu_chucks:
I knew you didn't have the guts, its a pathological thing, but I'm not suprised. olodo
Which requires more guts: having a real online identity or blaming a leader who saved my life? I would easily have a real online identity. Don't you think?
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:38am On Feb 26, 2010
ndu_chucks:
Stop dribbling like maradona, olodo.  The question was not about identifying the enemy. I repeat the question you were asked:
Respond to that!
Respond to these: Why is a dead man ruling Nigeria from the grave? Why are your people the least educated in Nigeria and yet claim a "born to rule" mantra? Why are you using an Igbo username while you are Hausa?
[size=16pt]Answer those questions or sharaap![/size] Mutum banza.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:22am On Feb 26, 2010
ndu_chucks:
You conveniently failed to accept responsibility for mistakes made by biafran commanders, but you have another chance to respond. What's your response to the rest of the man's post? See below:
and then he himself fled.
Are you the man's mouthpiece now? If you cannot decipher from my posts that I acknowledge strategic mistakes made by Ojukwu in not properly identifying the enemy, then, you must go back to primary school, Mister "quadruple identity" suffering from acute diplopia.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:01am On Feb 26, 2010
oyb:
yeah, just like they were able to predict the pogroms that would rise in retaliation to the coup

the way they predicted that the abokis would fold their hands while biafra seceded

in some ways its the arrogance of ibos that keeps doing them in undecided
Well the south south is threatening to secede now. Are they arrogant for wanting to escape humiliation and injustice? It is the idiocy of Nigerians that is keeping the country comatose for nearly 50 years. undecided
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 7:57am On Feb 26, 2010
okunoba:
@onlytruth, Ojukwu  and Awo have their faults, u can`t blame Awo without blaming Ojukwu, the guy could have saved many if only he had surrendered  before the food ran out. How can u fight without food and weapons.  He took  people on a suicide mission. 

Nigerian military need to apologise 4 the senseless killings of Igbo people in the north.
This is the first coming from a Yoruba dude here on NL unless I'm wrong about your tribe.
Anyway, I appreciate your line of thinking on the bolded words but Igbos don't need apologies. What we need is genuine repentance on the part of the participants of the genocide. It is in everyone's interest that they repent, else it may rotate. It has been rotating since the guns fell silent in 1970. The Igbo say "Tufiakwa" to demonstrate open rejection of evil, because we believe that anything less will turn the evil into a form of retribution which will not spare even the bystander who did nothing to stop it.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Break Up Imminent by Onlytruth(m): 11:57pm On Feb 25, 2010
desthan:
There will be no break-up, rather the military would take over.

Reasons: Yaradua is Lost, Goodluck was brought in un-constitutionally, Turai has gone completely beserk, and she's is squirting all over tha place, and making a total mokery of the system including the so call NASS. So who cleans the whole mess up, the MILITARY. . . .its that easy.

off 2 get my visa, leaving for south africa with my pack of condom cool
grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Chai Nigerians go kill me for here! lmao!
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 9:34pm On Feb 25, 2010
Katsumoto:
Are you discussing issues or telling us how Yoruba people are cowards, back stabbers, and the true enemy of the Igbos?
You are always talking about how the Igbo would dominate in the new 'political dispensation' of the future and how the Igbo would take over Yoruba land. It is difficult for anyone to discuss with you when you take such a hard stance. I am not advocating that you discuss with me but do not kid yourself in thinking that you are here for discourse.
I stopped discussing with you a long time ago. As a matter of fact I stopped discussing when I saw that almost all your people (about 99%) would never condemn the killing of innocent easterners after the coups of 1966, and the role Awolowo played in starving easterners to death. Unlike your people, the Igbo are ready to condemn even Zik for foisting a non-negotiated country on them. That is why Zik has far less value in Igboland than Ojukwu. Your people worship Awolowo even though he championed an immoral campaign during and after the war against easterners. All we need from you is a collective condemnation of evil perpetrated by Awolowo, but you are incapable of that because he truly did your will. Igbo can never condemn Ojukwu for the same reasons.

So, I am here these days to warn my people to be very realistic and strategic in their political maneuvers in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 9:13pm On Feb 25, 2010
henry101:
@ onlytruth
I understand what u mean is just like saying the enemy u knw is beta dan d one u dnt knw.
Bt u nid 2 calm down. U dey vex 2 much.
Relax we all nid God's abundant grace 2 save us from the hellish situation Nigeria finds herself 2day.
Point of correction my brother, I no dey vex, I dey laff grin
You know why i dey lafff? becuase our country is the biggest joke in the international community.
why i no go laff? huh
If people can't honestly discuss issues and honestly seek solutions, God is powerless.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 9:07pm On Feb 25, 2010
ndu_chucks:
Onlytruth, abi na onlypessimism, your cup is half empty rather than half full, olodo. I'm not a shrink - you are on your own.
I am actually feeling like an enlightened easterner of 1950 when things were just beginning to take shape in naija, and I'm enjoying myself in the process. grin You can call me a devil's advocate if you like but I even think that I need to be more pessimistic. My people's optimism in the 60s led to millions of innocent deaths and nothing has changed. cool Mutum banza.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:31pm On Feb 25, 2010
Afam,

You think anything has changed about generalizations in Nigeria? I wouldn't share in your optimism. Nigeria has not changed in any way since the 60s. That is why a near dead man is in charge and able bodied men can't do anything about it. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. I can only assure you that the only thing that has changed since the 60s is that the Igbo is now mentally prepared to fight anywhere in Nigeria. All it takes for another genocide to be triggered is for an Igbo guy to conduct a coup.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 8:13pm On Feb 25, 2010
doyin13:
I wonder how come you Igbo chaps have not extended your arguments
and iindicted Yorubas for atrocities that have been committed in the North
even after the end of the war.

Did the treacherous Yorubas goad the Abokis to kill innocent southerners (many of them Igbos)
in various religious altercations that have occurred up North since the war?
What is the use of an
''I told you so'' when one is as equally affected by the situation.

When I opened the thread, I thought I might actually find some progressive minded people here,
with a desire to see a way out for our peoples.

You are scions of survivors after all. The dead paid the ultimate sacrifice and I am sure they would rather
the opportunity to be alive and try to extricate themselves from a rapidly deteriorating situation. But no, you
come here indulging in the luxury of revenge and spite. It really is pathetic.
Don't worry about abokis. Honestly the Igbo find it easy to contain the northerner because the northerner is predictable. That is why the killing of Igbos in the north is fast coming to an end. The Igbo man is not afraid of fighting, and so we fight them even in the north. The most dangerous enemy is a hidden one. The one that smiles and laughs with you while at the same time scheming to annihilate you at the slightest opportunity. That is THE ENEMY.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 7:59pm On Feb 25, 2010
Katsumoto:
Is it not mischievious for some Igbo people to argue that Igbo people should not be judged by the actions of 9 coup-plotters while holding all Yoruba people accountable for the actions of Awolowo and Adekunle (who was a soldier and following instructions)? You also conveniently forget the noble actions of Yoruba sons such as

1. Soyinka - who spent 26 months in prison
2. Col Ayo Ariyo who resigned his post rather than fight against Biafra
3. Col Victor Banjo who led the Biafran Forces to Ore
4. Ijebu Farmers who rioted against the war and got killed by Major Anthony Ochefu
I've had this argument with you before and I honestly don't want to repeat it. You are entitled to your opinions. Awolowo was the undisputed leader of the Yorubas then and he had the ears of most Yorubas just like Ojukwu in the east. He was in jail in Calabar and you would at least accept that if Ojukwu refused to release him from jail, or killed him in jail, he would not be alive to scheme the extermination of easterners.

You also conveniently forget that several Easterners fought against Biafra. You really need to stop this emotional, childish, and incomplete analysis that you do concerning the events of the 60s. You keep arguing that the Yorubas were the real enemy? How were Yoruba people the real enemy? Did Yoruba people manipulate Igbo officers to murder Northern and Western political and military leaders.
I have never said there where no easterners who fought against Biafra. Where did the word "sabo" come from? The bigger question is did those easterners play decisive role in the war? Did they scheme to starve innocent children to death as part of a strategy to break the fighting spirit of easterners?
It might seem childish to you, but your "mature alternative prescription" led to unnecessary deaths in Biafra. It will lead to more deaths even today. So I am proud of my "childishness" on this very important piece of history. It might save my life! I would rather be a childish survivor than a mature dead man.  cool
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 7:02pm On Feb 25, 2010
In fact I would warn any Igbo politician to never take friendships in Nigeria seriously because most people wear masks in Nigeria. They should avail themselves of the real Nigerians on nairaland to better understand the peoples of Nigeria. Taking those friendships seriously could have fatal consequences.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 6:50pm On Feb 25, 2010
@Shoot2Kill

I don't know what your aims are but if they are for unity then you are actually working against it. I understand what you said about Nigerians not being hostile to one another except on Nairaland. It is because your people mainly never say what they mean openly. One of my best friends on campus in my vasity days is from Ogun state, but we never really talked about deep stuff. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you if he would pick up a gun to fight against me tomorrow. That is how your people are.

In the years before the civil war, our fathers were all over Nigeria. They had close friends who were so close that they exchanged family visits and gifts during festive seasons (Christmas or Muslim festivals). My parents spoke fluent Hausa and my siblings spoke Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba. Guess what? All those friendships vanished in a twinkle of an eye in 1966 and 67. It wasn't even replaced by lose associations or misunderstanding. It was replaced by genocidal hate. I have argued here severally that Biafra's biggest mistake was to not identify the enemy before fighting. Ojukwu never ever imagined that your people-the Yoruba- would lead the campaign against Biafra and that Awolowo whom he called father would design the most inhumane war and end of war strategies against easterners.
That is a history you want us to forget? huh huh huh huh
Are you kidding me? huh huh huh huh

I don't know what you think, but my definition of madness is to repeat the same mistakes and expect a different outcome. I won't even talk about the 60s, what about today and here on nairaland? How many of your people have you seen here acknowledging the wrong done to Biafrans? What I have seen here are characters who mock the dead in Biafra and who threaten more should the situation arise again. So, if you are an Igbo or a reasonable easterner, what would you do or think? huh
I'm not even interested in chanting the "we were right" line. I'm only determined to do my part to save my children the same way my father fought to save me.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 6:04am On Feb 25, 2010
This thread is not about Biafra but it will be foolish to discuss it without discussing the events that led to Biafra and the roles played by various groups in Nigeria. If the north must be broken, that implies that there is a south to do the breaking, right? There is no south. The south died in 1967.

It was Archimedes who said "give me a place to stand and I will move the earth". Where will you stand to break northern Nigeria? A one legged man cannot make a good wrestler.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 1:47am On Feb 25, 2010
ndu_chucks:
I may have been vindicated by this thread. I stated that Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from the East in order to support the point that the Northerners believed that the 1966 coup was lead by an Igbo man, and in their minds, it was a Igbo coup.  Afam jumped all over the statement claiming that my statement was a blatant lie design to distort history.  Even after I accepted, for the purposes of the discussion, that Nzeogwu was not from the East, Afam continued to state that I told an intentional lie while continuing to ignore the main point I was trying to make.

It now turns out that fellow Igbos claim Nzeogwu is Igbo, exposing the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in Afam's rants. Your statement that some Igbo people claim Nzeogwu  is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup, is spot on. Wonders shall never end.

I hope Afam can dispute the claims of asha80 that Nzeogwu is Igbo to redeem himself.
ndu_chucks, will you then explain to dayokanu that there is nothing like south south as far as the coup of Jan 1966 is concerned? If you are honest, you would tell dayokanu that Nzeogwu was an Igboman from the current south south. So, if he was from south south, how could dayokanu claim he killed a fellow south south man to further Igbo agenda? If that is true, can't you see how idiotic south south sounds in that coup?
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 1:41am On Feb 25, 2010
Katsumoto:
If my memory serves me correctly, Azikiwe had an alliance with the North for the first republic. How did that alliance end? Was the alliance with the Yoruba(AG). Do you speak for all Igbo people? I don't think so. You are entitled to your own wishes but if the majority of Igbo people decide to form an alliance with Yoruba people, there is nothing YOU can do about it.

Besides, the politics of the 60s are no more with us. Nigeria no longer plays regional politics. If your alliance refers to the hypothetical scenario involving the break up of Nigeria, then Yoruba will be fine regardless of any alliance. How fickle minded are you? Are you so easily swayed that you allowed yourself to be influenced by comments on NL? Anyway, that is your prerogative.
I never dreamed I was speaking for Igbo people. I know for sure that I am speaking for myself as an Igbo person, and I thank you for acknowledging my right to do so. You are quick to take offense when attacked, but you feign innocence when attacking others. Typical. I deliberately decided to ignore your attacks; don't misunderstand that . . .  I won't say it again.
The funny thing about Nigeria of today is that it amazes me how things are remarkably similar to the events of 1964-1966.

Some people have decided to throw the country into a crisis, every concerned friend of Nigeria is warning about it, but the lords of Nigeria go about their business as if nothing is wrong. Why? Because they know that NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. So, my advise to Ndigbo -wait this one out, don't ever stick your neck out even if heavens fall. This is actually the time to go home, sit down and think. Nigeria's history has shown us whom the enemy is (at least for us Ndigbo). This is another opportunity to make decisions that will determine the well being of our children. Let's not blow it by making the same mistake again. A northern Christian is a better ally than some southern Christians. We must make those moves deliberately and calculatedly. Any alliance in the South minus the Yoruba is fine by me.
PoliticsRe: How To Break The North by Onlytruth(m): 9:00pm On Feb 24, 2010
@marcdunu

Please save your breath. It is no use explaining these things to people with hearts of stone. I never understood the term "cut off your nose to spite your face" until I started studying the Nigerian civil war and the roles played by some tribes. So let it be.
Frankly, the most idiotic concept I can think of today is that of "southern Nigeria". It is so warped in illogic and idiocy that I wonder how we (including myself) ever thought of it as a solution. THERE IS NO SOUTH.

I have personally found out that most northerners are people who keep their words -they are reliable. If a northerner says yes, you can take that to the bank, likewise if he says no. So, it is easier to work with them. Among them still, you see that the christian parts are even better to work with. They are peaceful and try to go to school.

So, the idea of breaking the north as a political unit is not a bad one provided that it does not mean bringing them to join a "South". We in the East can work with the Christian north in a political alliance if you like (Like Zik did with Solomon Lar in Plateau State 1979 NPP).

We must avoid any political alliances that involve the Yoruba.
PoliticsRe: Militants Takes Over Ebonyi State As Business And Movement Are Put On Hold! by Onlytruth(m): 8:47pm On Feb 23, 2010
Also the Minister for Works, Housing and Urban Development, Alhaji Hassan Lawal, who was bailed to visit the state could not get into the state as the Enugu-Abakaliki Road was overtaken by the militants. Police eyewitness was quoted as saying[b] that the militants turned into skeleton, making it difficult to capture them.[/b]
grin grin grin grin grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

I rolled off my chair laughing and rolling on the floor! Chei! We never see something for that naija!
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by Onlytruth(m): 5:54pm On Feb 23, 2010
Katsumoto:
Yes, they are legitimate concerns but why should it be one of the very rare performing governors who has to answer these questions. Why not start from the beginning and then you can set the precedent? Why am I asking these questions when I know that you are set in your ways and debating issues with you is akin to banging one's head against a wall. Your attempts at criticisingnd highlighting my posts are not only pitiful but also childish.

What was the point of re-posting my post? Everyone can read my initial post. I will repeat it again, if you want accountability, it is only fair and logical that you start from the beginning and if you are not from Lagos state, go and start with the governors (including past) of your state. Afterall, you don't observe Lagos indigenes asking for accountability in Anambra or Borno.
Do you frankly think about the implication of your post -what you are really saying? The guy says he pays taxes and local dues to the Lagos state government and owns a property there (unless I misunderstood). So, you want him to go ask for accountability from "his state of origin". Do you really see how twisted that is?  huh
Saying the truth to you means that I am set in my ways. . . . what does that mean?

I have come to the understanding that those who fought against the easterners where not fighting to keep Nigeria one. They were fighting to kill as many easterners as possible -probably to wipe them out. Is there a wonder that easterners say that the war was against them, not against those who want to divide the country, because frankly those who want to divide Nigeria fought on the Nigerian side and they are complaining even today.
They are at it here!

Forpeace, your concerns and issues are LEGITIMATE. Take it to the highest court in the land if you must. You are standing on solid grounds. In fact buy more lands if you can. NEVER EVER think about leaving. You are on your land.  cool
PoliticsRe: The Cries Of A Fed Up Lagosian by Onlytruth(m): 5:28pm On Feb 23, 2010
forpeace:
Originally posted by jaguar_09:

Weather the post is a lie or not, how can olowolafe happens to be the only credible contractor in Lagos? i for one pay about 15% of my monthly income on tax, the numbers are if i earn 100K then i am taxed 15K per month. i live in Lekki where there is no road, pipe borne water, government clinic. etc i even pay for waste disposal and security (vigilante). all this is what my tax should provide for me. not to mention the almighty POWER supply. those who have argued against the post should have a rethink. think of your immediate environment, the standard of living, hours spent on traffic, the menance of the torts on the road with all sorts of uniform, tormenting people who indirectly pay their salary through tax. it's annoying and only logical to ask the kind of question the poster mentioned above. Lagos state has become a revenue generating conscious state, where you must pay for everything. like someone said, car radio permit, car park, etc. God forsake you, your car breaks down along the road, before you go get a mechanic or whatever to fix it, it's either the torts in uniform have tolled it alausa or the torts in mofty have robbed you off your car accessories. LAGOS SUCKS, i know people will ask me to leave if am no more comfortable here, but mind you the consititution empowers me have freedom of residence in any part of Nigeria.

The activities of Fashola led government should be investigated for the records.
The bolded are all legitimate issues, questions and concerns from a NIGERIAN citizen living where he chose and pays local taxes, and of course is entitled to his concerns since they are all LOCAL concerns. Here is what a fellow Nigerian told him:


Katsumoto:
Lagos indigenes that want accountability - Please start with past governors such as Tinubu, Marwa, Jakande, Otedola
Lagos Residents that want accountability - Please go and ask for accountability from the governors in your state of origin

Eko o ni baje o
Forpeace, all your concerns are legitimate and you have the right to air them. I wouldn't live in Lagos (though my folks own properties in Lagos  grin). I cannot remember spending more than 2 nights in Lagos because I really believe that the place is a HELL HOLE at least until someone honestly try to fix things there. Don't leave -YOU ARE IN YOUR COUNTRY. BUY MORE LANDS if you can.  You are a Nigerian and can live anywhere in Nigeria. Take the Governor to court if you can and demand accountability. The more people like you speak out the better. You are a Nigerian Lagosian!
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 2:39am On Feb 21, 2010
ndu_chucks:
O na-abu a si nwata wuba ahu, o saba afo ya.

Nwanne m, this is a sign of immaturity. Why the abuse na? aje'kuta ma munmi, olodo, rakumin dajij.
Balawo mutun banza! Dan iska kowai.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 12:40am On Feb 21, 2010
ndu_chucks:
This is not your first time of asking this question despite the fact that I've told you I prefer to discuss issues rather than ndu_chucks.  Don't be surprised to find out that I'm from Nnewi, but before you can perform any verification exercise, please read the following:

A Nigerian has a father. The Nigerian's father had a mother who is half Igbo and half Idoma. The Nigerian's mother had a father who is half Yoruba and half Fulani.  This Nigerian was born while his father was living as a diplomat in Russia and he speaks the russian language fluently.

This Nigerian speaks, hausa, igbo, yoruba, and idoma fluently and he has very close relatives in just about every  region in Nigeria.  This Nigerian is married to an Ijaw princess.

Onlytruth's homework: Which tribe should this Nigerian claim? What should be his state of origin? What about the children of the Nigerian, what is their state of origin? Pray tell, olodo.

I'm a full blooded one Nigerian and proud of it!
You are a full blooded idiot!  grin grin grin

The people who died in Biafra were from former Eastern region of Nigeria - be they half aliens from space.

I knew you would not answer the question, I just wanted to make sure. Atulu awusa!
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 11:58pm On Feb 20, 2010
ndu_chucks, I throw a challenge your way: I am an Igbo man from Anambra state, Nnewi to be exact. Where in Nigeria are you from huh huh huh
If you dodge this question, then you must stop commenting here.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 11:56pm On Feb 20, 2010
ndu_chucks:
How are you sure I'm not a Christian, olodo?  If the number of 1 - 3 million deaths that you people are throwing arround is accurate, then your assertion that more people have died in northern Nigeria than all parts of Nigeria combined is simply false.

I think I've made my point, you can bury your head in the sand if you wish - thats typical of denials.  Moving on jare.

P.S. Ojukwu remains your hero, no one can take that away from you.  I never tried to do that.
That is the problem! We don't know what you are, because you have refused to say. How dare you demand truthful answers when you can't even identify your tribe in Nigeria huh You are Hausa (which you have alluded to in your past posts), but you bear an Igbo username. Considering the topic of this discussion , how fair are you by bearing a false identity? You are simply an unscrupulous individual charging others to be honorable! You are not qualified to comment on Ojukwu's integrity because you lack that.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 11:37pm On Feb 20, 2010
ndu_chucks:
Let me remind you of a  few things that you are pretending to be ignorant of.  Three months into the war, Enugu, the Biafran capital fell to the federal troops. That should have signalled the beginning of the end for Ojukwu and his commanders. But to their credit, they refused to surrender at that point and even threw a few punches of their own despite being outmanned and outclassed by the federal troops

From the start of the war, Federal troops had made major moves in non Igbo areas and places on the fringes such as Nsukka. Nsukka in Biafra's northwest corner and then Ogoja in the northeast were the first federal gains.  Then Bonny in the non Igbo Niger delta. Enugu fell in October 5.  Amphibious federal forces took Calabar, biafra's remaining port on Oct 18 after the fiercest fightin in a non Igbo area.

By this time the federal troops were in control of every port, and land and air supply routes to Biafra. A full blockade was on.  At this point there was nowhere else to go, it was impossible for the Biafran troops to win.  It was either surrender or fight to finish.

My question remains, why did Ojukwu not fight to the end, once he made the choice that effectively sacrifised the lives of these women and children?  If you tell me that some foreign forces gave Ojukwu the assurance of providing millitary support, but ended up disappointing him; that would have been understandable. The excuses that you guys have come up with so far, is pitiful.
I have already told you to go and hang because our hero survived and is still alive and growing old gracefully. Our God and the spirits of innocent Igbo children who you starved to death will continue to haunt you. Meanwhile go and answer to why you are trying to kill off Christians in Jos. More people have died in northern Nigeria than all parts of Nigeria combined since after the war. Go and ask your Sultan and all your emirs why they are not sending your children to western education and schools. Why are you breeding terrorists more than any region of Africa? Go answer that first. Leave this section if you are not a miserable hypocrite.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 11:28pm On Feb 20, 2010
okooyinbo:
Hey, are you dreaming? Do you think the Biafra war led the world to any decisive change of policy? The real battle of concern at that time was the cold war and its spin-offs in Vietnam, Korea etc. No, Biafra did not make it to global attention as Ojukwu had thought. Rwanda and possibly Darfur are the first crisis in Afrika where the world has really come to say NO.
I think you are being outrightly dishonest here and you know it! So, if Biafra never grabbed world attention, how come all the powers you listed before in your post supported Nigeria with weapons and other logistics?
How come Medicine Sans Frontier (French doctors) was formed by the same doctors trying desperately to save Biafran children, and they have been to all wars since then? Above all, how come most foreigners who was old enough during Biafran war know about the war (they would always ask you which part of Nigeria are you from -Biafra or Nigeria)? I can go on but what is the point? The world brought war crimes charges against war criminals in Rwanda and Darfur; you think that was accidental?

Well, it depends on interest. Please dont put your trust too much on world leaders, they have disappointed several times. I have come to know a lot of how the world ticks. BTW, I am a victim of Biafra too. The pounding of artillery in ORE was felt in my village you know. It was like the world was coming to an end. You have not experience war. Dont pray for it. It is absolutely not a fun thing.
I never said I was trusting anybody. I only stated the facts as they are. Please stop using the sound of artillery
from within your earshot at Ore to compare the sound of all types of explosives, warplanes and weapons traumatizing Biafran children for nearly 3 years.

Nobody prayed for any war. In fact our dear leader tried everything within his power to avoid war, but people we thought were friends schemed to annihilate us. Even at Aburi, Ojukwu and Gowon exchanged hugs and threw banters. I'm sure Ojukwu never imagined the type of hate within the hearts of his fellow compatriots. I'm sure he was shocked by the methods employed by Nigeria against Biafra. I speculate that treachery from "friendly" corners of Nigeria dealt the most devastating blow to Biafra. I lament that we never knew who the real enemy was.

Ndigbo are Christians and our brand of Christianity taught us a lot of things which made us vulnerable in Biafra.  
That is why we (Ndigbo) must sit down and think long and hard about how we survived and how to plan our survival going forward.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 6:44pm On Feb 20, 2010
Add to my point above, the world has changed partly as a result of the Biafran deaths. No world leader would allow something like that again. The world woke up after Biafra and Medicine san frontier has been in wars taking care of the needy and wounded, and world leaders have instituted war crimes charges against war criminals.
Nigeria committed too many war crimes in Biafra and the world knows that.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Used Starvation As A Deliberate Strategy During Civil War. by Onlytruth(m): 6:42pm On Feb 20, 2010
^^^
The comparison stopped at the enemies they fought. They -Germany and Nigeria -wanted victory by ALL means. Civilians died as a result.

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