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armyofone:
MTG was complaining abt 600,000 Chinese oga is about to allow in to take "American jobs" - what do you say of that ? That's mass migration na.

You are right o. Hmnn. Trump said we don’t have “enough” Americans to fill critical tech jobs and so we need to bring in people from elsewhere - including Chinese. And here we are “saying” mass migration is a threat to Western Civilisation ? Perhaps the Chinese that will be brought in will assimilate ( and thus not become a threat) - but how can we tell ? Na wa o.

Why did MTG resign from Congress ?

State Dept. Warns Mass Migration an ‘Existential Threat’ to Western Civilization, U.S. Embassies to Monitor ‘Two-Tiered’ Justice in Europe


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/11/22/state-dept-warns-mass-migration-an-existential-threat-to-western-civilization-u-s-embassies-to-monitor-two-tiered-justice-in-europe/

cococandy:
Yea, let’s civilly discuss how we can best support the plebs who seek to harm others for not being the way we approve.

Hey Coco, how are you? You can let the other person know you don't approve of their points or whatever in a nice and humane manner. The person will still get the message.

Civil discourse without recourse to abusive words is the right way to go. Going emotional and using abusive words will always stifle and impede ones ability to articulate his or her points. In that regards, I applaud Seun and his tech guys for doing their best to restore sanity on the board.

When I joined Nairaland back in 2005, the crop of people I exchanged ideas and argued with were sane, respectful and decent set of people. When I started reading vulgar and repulsive comments from the likes of obrig and others, I knew Seun must be alerted to do something. Thank God he did.

kentebemoney:
Stop the cap!!!
The God of their forefathers (Yahweh) , whom they served help them create the greatest civilization ( defense, finance, medical advancement, administration, government).
The American government and constitution were written by men who knew the Bible and their morals were drawn from the Bible, Isaiah 33:22,
For the LORD is our judge(Judiciary), the LORD is our lawgiver(legislature), the LORD is our king(Executive)"; it is he who will save us.
As regards "slavery" all civilization on earth participated in slavery untill the "Christian Civilization"abolished it and actually put assets and men on the sea to put an end to transatlantic slavery. America actually fought a civil war to end slavery, by men who from the Bible understood that all men are created in God's image, so what are you saying
Btw, kindly help us with the Bible verse used to defend slavery!!!!!

A breath of fresh air!

bas, raum, please, can you guys explain the below. I don't get it.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/08/01/exclusive-doj-official-who-approved-2-million-payout-to-disgraced-russia-hoaxers-identified-as-left-wing-activist-brian-netter/

DeepSight:
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The truth is that God is unknowable, as IT completely transcends our reality. We can no more know or understand God than an amoeba in a water puddle in the Amazon Forest can hope to know of, or understand the existence of multiverses.

In our attempts to give meaning to our existence we have created ideas of gods - many of them absolute abominations and monstrosities, such as Yahweh and Allah.

If God exists, IT may very well be a neutral impersonal existential force at the root of all reality.

I am agnostic, not atheistic.

Now, this is a new one. And here I was thinking I have seen it all with buda. Interesting. I'll get back later.


But just so you know, this your view point is the reason we disagree on the use of the word "immortal".

DeepSight:
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Huh? Worshipping the Christian God did that for them? The same Christian God they used to justify slavery? Please look for other reasons for that prosperity such as guns and diseases, or even the renaissance and the enlightenment.

Or the Puritans of the time of Thomas Cromwell.

Anyways, let me share a passage of the scriptures that I read today. I will wait for your vitriol on this one, so I can laugh at you with glee.

Numbers 31:1-24

They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp.

Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man".

Anyone who has killed someone or touched someone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days. On the third and seventh days you must purify yourselves and your captives.

The Federalist wins the Dao Grand Prize for Investigative Journalism.

From the Federalist, if anything but to at least recognise the hardwork these people did to bring the hoax that’s the Russiagate to light.

https://campaigns.thefederalist.com/e9t3k1i3h9/2882375084264134871/d0x6/

budaatum:
Ono, this battle was lost decades ago in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales), where you can not indoctrinate religion in any school, and this ruling just unites the kingdom. It applies to all religions too, so you can't have schools promoting Islam neither. Hurrah!

There is no vacuum in the spirit world. There is no sitting on the fence to “observe” or learn anything. You must take a side.

Joshua saw this and made the Israelites “take a stand”

“And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
‭‭Joshua‬ ‭24‬:‭15

The first mistake the West did was to allow into their society people of other faiths and religions to the point that they started teaching all these other faiths in their Ivory towers, embraced them as the truths and are now trying to force everyone to comply.

Was it not under this God that Britain and the West prospered and became the industrial and financial hub of the world ? What exactly can the West accuse God of that He didn’t do for them when their forefathers served the Lord ? Did He not bless their lands and made them prosperous ? Why are they turning away from Him who has helped and strengthened them against their enemies and have now turned to other gods and whatever shred of knowledge they think they now have to say “there is no God”?

“It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭10‬:‭31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“for our God is a consuming fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12‬:‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

DeepSight:
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I was referring to the Abrahamic God (Yahweh / Allah) as barbaric.

I get that. Okay let me rephrase my question. Which one is a suitable god - if one exists in your “reality” based on what you unloaded earlier?

You’re free to say there’s none and thus remove all doubt that you’re an atheist.

DeepSight:
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Yahweh and his alter ego Allah.

Amazing. This is new stuff. So, then, what god was it you were about in this your last post ? Olodumare or Orunmila ?

DeepSight:
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It is wrong to describe God as immortal, because that word bears a soft connotation of a being which could conceivably be mortal but has somehow transcended mortality. Suitable words for God would be timeless, transcendent, eternal, etc. And that would be assuming that we speak of the same entity when we refer to God - for all I know you may be referring to the barbaric Abrahamic entity which most do.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c201qqq0n61t?post=asset%3A81344e93-a425-41e4-978f-7fa78db29111#post

The beginning of the end.

Bas, the attack has been against Christianity all along. You were right. They had to wait for the right time to strike! The society has been prepped for this. Years of endless immigration of people of other faiths and religions, cultures and traditions and indoctrination. WEF pushing LGBTQ policies all over the place. Infiltration of the Church of England by queers and LGBTQ. All sorts of thrash over the past decades have led to this. These have completely weakened any form of pushback on rulings like this.

The UK is done!

DeepSight:
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BS.

It is wrong to describe God as immortal, because that word bears a soft connotation of a being which could conceivably be mortal but has somehow transcended mortality. Suitable words for God would be timeless, transcendent, eternal, etc. And that would be assuming that we speak of the same entity when we refer to God - for all I know you may be referring to the barbaric Abrahamic entity which most do.

If I may ask, which Abrahamic entity do you know - can you give a name? You could be an atheist for all we know - so many of you out there.

DeepSight:
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What a shame.
Even the analogy of characters representing eternal moulds is lost on you.

And this is the person I have been wasting my time discussing with.

There was never a chance we could be on even remotely the same wavelength.

I get that you can't use the right words to express yourself properly. Instead of using the word "immortal" (reserved for God and Him alone), you could have used "enduring" or "sages" of their days - to better convey your points about the characters or point you're "trying" hard to make.

If you know the real status of the person responding to your posts, you would appreciate you're indeed a neophyte and not on thesame wavelength with him.

DeepSight:
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You are gravely mistaken.
All the characters in that book are immortal.

This again shows your limitations.

Only the great Lord God almighty is immortal. All men (including all the works of their hands) are finite, fleeting, limited and vain. Know this and know peace, dude!

DeepSight:
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"Napoleon is always right."

I hope you know what Napoleon ended up doing to Boxer after he had given his all.

Dude, focus for once! Napo is dead and gone. Trump is still kicking and we are in a different century, different times. Keep watch.

DeepSight:
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It is you who should do that given that your capacity to reason begins and ends at "Trump is doing his best" and "Trump is always right" much like the character Boxer would always say about Napoleon in George Orwell's Animal Farm.

How shameful it is to be so wholly subservient to one other man, particularly one who detests you and your kind with a racist passion.

Its sad how people just lack self respect, self worth and any sense of dignity whatsoever.

Aren't you mixing things up here? This discussion is about the Epstein files release. Focus on one thing at a time (something I have observed democraps and liberals generally can't do). No one's subservient to anybody. Racism a different kettle of fish, leave for another day.

DeepSight:
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Only people who have been so brainwashed that they sing the nursery rhymes Trumpism has taught them ever mention TDS.
Its not for adults.
All people who refer to it are mentally about two or three years old.

Yeah yeah....OK, take feeding bottle and...rest!

DeepSight:
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Not only Trump's name. Some other powerful people and yes, that will include some high ranking Democrats.

You should consider unearthing medical files going back at least four generations.

Finally, something that makes sense. So, why didn't Congress just allow the FBI/DOJ continue their investigations (if it's still on) - instead of all these noise about Trump?

DeepSight:
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GROW UP.
You cant even analyze anything.

I think Raum is right. You have TDS.

basilico:
As predicted, if Trump is not implicated then the whole exercise is corrupted.
Aren't democrats accusing 1000 FBI agents of meeting somewhere to strike out references to Trump.

So you think Bill Clinton visited Epstein island ? Yes or No

Democrats like to cherry pick in issues like this. You heard rascal Jaimie Raskin defending the Virgin Island congresswoman to the highest heavens - for something that ordinarily she should go to jail for. However, when it comes to Trump, if the democraps find a toothpick with Trump, that's meant for Epstein, ha! all hell will break loose - and Trump must vacate the White House!

raumdeuter:
For 10 months Release the files

Now the files are being released

We know damaging things to Trump wont be in the files

The left is really a party of insanity

And he's the one telling people to grow up o! You can see he's even still crawling. Yeye dey smell.

DeepSight:
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@ the bold.
You seriously mean you cant see all his vacuous manipulations, corrupt games and egoistic power moves for what they are, not to speak of racist policies and inclinations?

I learnt to not get carried away by mere words. Look at what the man said he will do and what he’s doing!

Biden wrecked Trump’s first term economic gains - for 4 years! Biden Imported million of mouths from all over the globe to invade the US and destroy the welfare system. And a host of others wrecks!

Trump is trying to fix all that now - it will take some time and patience on th part of anyone concerned/impacted. We need to all be patient. He’s just 10 or 11 months in. Give him some time. Stop all these Epstein distractions. Let the man focus!

DeepSight:
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The difference between me and you is that I admit to the corruption and atrocities of those democrats I support. You by contrast present Trump as being as clean as Christ.

Wrong. No one is clean. But in the light of what we all are facing, and what the West in general in facing - by the onslaught from liberal minded people (notice how easy it is for the Islamists to affiliate with liberals because of their "shared" world views), Trump is doing his best.

DeepSight:
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You sound like a kindergarten child in your naivete about politics and your rose-tinted glasses for Trump.

What difference does that make here? All I posted is what it is. Some of you matured politicians here have very short memories. You need kindergartens like me to remind you, you're not making sense.

I shared some screenshots in an earlier post. In that post, I shared my findings on two things:

here:

ono:
Buda et al, I did some checks. See below from AI.

1 The number of Universities in the Western world offering Islamic Religious Studies.
2. The number of Universities in the Middle East offering Christian Religious Studies.


For 1, I found out that almost ALL universities in the West offer Islamic Religious Studies. Harvard, John Hopkins, Cambridge, Oxford - All the Ivy League schools offer Islamic Relgious Studies. From Europe to America, to most parts of Africa, that course is offered at undergraduate, post graduate up to doctoral levels. Many of them have Islamic Religious Study Centres with Imams and many Islamic scholars visiting.

For 2, I found out that with the exception of Israel, Egypt and Lebanon, all the other countries in the Middle East, particularly in the Arab world do not offer Christian religious study. Saudi Arabia was particularly strict about their restriction on the course. They said they are a “theocracy” and do not allow anything Christianity in their country.


Now, take a step back. Ask yourself some frank questions. All those Islamic teaching centres in the West, who are the intended audience? How many western individuals and families sign up to take these programs? Who is funding the programs? Why did the West allow a religion that’s hostile to Western Civilisation to be taught in their ivory towers ?

And then ask, why is the Middle East against Christian religious study in their schools ?

Can you draw a parallel to why the West is polluted ? Why we have people freely associating and having no qualms “working” with the Mamdanis, the Siddiq Khans of this world - from where ever they may have come from? Can you see why Gov Greg Abbot banned the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR in Texas?


Liberals are a curse on any society. Where ever they are, whatever they touch, whatever policy they make, it all leads to one thing and one thing alone: Destruction and Deaths!

basilico:
Mamdani endorses Palestinian activist Aber Kawas for his State Assembly seat. She returned from South Africa with a Masters degree in
Islamic Theology of Liberation.

🚨 Meet Aber Kawas — the new extremist darling of the New York Democratic machine. 🚨

Zohran Mamdani just endorsed her for a New York State Assembly seat in Queens, and the receipts on this one are WILD.

Here is Kawas blaming 9/11 on America, claiming the attack was a “manifestation” of:

➡️ “Capitalism”
➡️ “Racism”
➡️ “White supremacy”
➡️ “Islamophobia”

Aber Kawas: “And so like, and finding that like, you know, the system of capitalism and racism and white supremacy, etc., and Islamophobia have all been used, you know, to colonize lands, right, to take resources from other people. And so this is like a long trajectory. And we're just seeing the manifestations of that continuation, right, with 9-11. And so a lot of times when people are asking us to respond about, you know, attack, right, when if you look back, like historically, right, you know, a lot of us come from lands that were colonized, lands where wars are being waged, right, a lot of times because of US policy or the policies in Europe. And so I find that we can connect over that but then also that the idea that we have to apologize for like a terror attack that like a couple people did and then there is no apologies or reparations for genocides and for slavery, etc., is something that I kind of find like reprehensible.”

Bas, I shared some screenshots in an earlier post. In that post, I shared my findings on two things:

here: https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5522#137379359


1 The number of Universities in the Western world offering Islamic Religious Studies.
2. The number of Universities in the Middle East offering Christian Religious Studies.


For 1, I found out that almost ALL universities in the West offer Islamic Religious Studies. Harvard, John Hopkins, Cambridge, Oxford - All the Ivy League schools offer Islamic Relgious Studies. From Europe to America, to most parts of Africa, that course is offered at undergraduate, post graduate up to doctoral levels. Many of them have Islamic Religious Study Centres with Imams and many Islamic scholars visiting.

For 2, I found out that with the exception of Israel, Egypt and Lebanon, all the other countries in the Middle East, particularly in the Arab world do not offer Christian religious study. Saudi Arabia was particularly strict about their restriction on the course. They said they are a “theocracy” and do not allow anything Christianity in their country.


Now Bas, take a step back. Ask yourself some frank questions. All those Islamic teaching centres in the West, who are the intended audience? How many western individuals and families sign up to take these programs? Who is funding the programs? Why did the West allow a religion that’s hostile to Western Civilisation to be taught in their ivory towers ?

And then ask, why is the Middle East against Christian religious study in their schools ?


Can you draw a parallel to why the West is polluted ? Why we have the likes of buda, Ijebos, Obrig and others freely associating and having no qualms “working” with the Mamdanis, the Siddiq Khans of this world - from where ever they may have come from? How it is that so long as they're free to buy cars, economy is sound, etc, they're OK - irrespective of the downward spiral in societal cohesion, the erosion of core christian and moral values unique to the West? Can you see why Gov Greg Abbot banned the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR in Texas?


Liberals are a curse on any society. Where ever they are, whatever they touch, whatever policy they make, it all leads to one thing and one thing alone: Destruction and Deaths!

raumdeuter:
When Trump release the files today, they will find something new to cry about again

Exactly! It’s a circus act - just like they did when Piglosi was Speaker, when SlowPoke Biden was President, when James Comey was FBI Director, when Chris Wray was FBI Director, when Jack Smith was special prosecutor, when Klinesmith “fiddled” with e-mails to “get Trump”, the FISA warrant saga, Russia Russia Russia hoax - list is endless.

But Trump na man sha. I mean, who will face all that and still get back to the White House? Miraculous!

armyofone:
It shouldn't have been so much drama - he campaigned on releasing the files - good. He should have done so "jejely" since and not fought the release until now.

Maybe needed time to see everything in the file hence the smokey mountains

But he released so many. It was the Democraps (and as we now know, some RINOs) who did their own “findings” and felt not “enough” has been released! And when Trump said releasing what they’re asking for will “destroy innocent lives”, they felt he was referring to himself and so they believed they have a “gotcha” moment! Let’s see how this play out. We are watching.