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gud4dbest:
not necessary though, we should just be prepared.

Bro, if you know for sure the rapture will happen anytime for example let's say between 2023 - 2026, won't you be more prepared? Won't you start preparing yourself now and cleaning up your act, dropping bad habits and making peace with your God ? That's exactly why it's important. It is like a lecturer giving you "expo" to an exam on the topics the exam will cover, so you can go and read on those areas. Jesus said something like the rapture will come like a thief in the night, it will catch so many people unawares, to the point that even some Christians will MISS the rapture. That's how delicate it is. Do you remember the parable of the 10 virgins Jesus gave? So it's not a joking matter at all. If there's someone or anyone that can correctly figure out a time period we can expect it to happen, I am 100% interested to hear his theory. Because I sure as hell don't want to be here to experience the Great Tribulation the Bible talks about. And from the scientific point of view, that thing is definitely going to happen. The world is already heading towards RFID microchip implants in the human body, either in your hand or forehead. So I know Revelations is real

otomatic:
How does one start researching the claims in this video cos the maths is not in my bible. If this thing is by mathematics, then joining a masonic lodge is the way.

Once upon a time, there were 2 men, Jeremiah and Daniel. They lived in different eras, never knew or met each other. Jeremiah prophecies Judah would be enslaved for 70 years. And it came to pass Judah was in captivity for 70 years and would have exceeded it and remained captives longer than the prophecy BUT for Daniel who did his research and calculation to find out that the 70 years has been reached. (Daniel 9:1-2) "I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem”. So how you research is by doing what Daniel did - OPEN THE BOOKS

Petacephas:
Is your type that go about deceiving innocent people. False prophets. Is this a law court that you are telling lies of year and not time? May all of you false prophets never have your ways.

LMAO , false prophet how No, I'm NOT even a prophet to begin with, so how can I be a false prophet. I'm not a pastor either. I'm just a person who's curious about the life I find myself to have and the world I find myself in. Curiosity about my sudden existence drives me to try to find some sense about my existence. I didn't write the Bible. It was here before I came, and it will still be here when I leave. I met it in the world. I have never translated a Bible before, I have never written my own version. There are plenty translations of the Bible and sometimes when you read a particular passage of scripture, sometimes the wordings they use in KJV might be different in NIV and might be different in NLT etc, although the message will be the same. But check out this particular scripture that references the rapture, all of the translations maintain that specific terminology and use the same wordings of DAY and HOUR. No other rendering was used. Do you think this was by accident or coincidence? No! I think it's because it's a fixed and clear statement in the original Hebrew or Greek rendering, and that's why it is uniform across all the English translations. When I was learning English composition, there was a man that taught me something I will never forget in my life. He was the English teacher of a holiday coaching preparatory center I attended. He taught me that, when you read a literature, to be able to answer correctly, don't just pay attention to what the author said, but also, PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE AUTHER DID NOT SAY too. So I say to you now, as per that scripture, Jesus said "Nobody knows the Day and Hour", and Jesus DID NOT SAY, "Nobody knows the year, or month or week". QED!

Matthew 24:36

New International Version
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

New Living Translation
“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

English Standard Version
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Berean Study Bible
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Berean Literal Bible
But concerning that day and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of the heavens, nor the Son, except the Father only.

New American Standard Bible
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

New King James Version
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

King James Bible
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Christian Standard Bible
"Now concerning that day and hour no one knows--neither the angels of heaven nor the Son--except the Father alone.

Contemporary English Version
No one knows the day or hour. The angels in heaven don't know, and the Son himself doesn't know. Only the Father knows.

Good News Translation
"No one knows, however, when that day and hour will come--neither the angels in heaven nor the Son; the Father alone knows.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
"Now concerning that day and hour no one knows--neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son--except the Father only.

International Standard Version
"No one knows when that day or hour will come —not the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father,

NET Bible
"But as for that day and hour no one knows it--not even the angels in heaven--except the Father alone.

New Heart English Bible
But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but my Father only.

A Faithful Version
But concerning that day, and the hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But about that day and about that hour no one knows, not even the Angels of Heaven, but The Father alone.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
"No one knows when that day or hour will come. Even the angels in heaven and the Son don't know. Only the Father knows.

New American Standard 1977
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

King James 2000 Bible
But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

American King James Version
But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

American Standard Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.

Darby Bible Translation
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of the heavens, but [my] Father alone.

English Revised Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Webster's Bible Translation
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Weymouth New Testament
"But as to that day and the exact time no one knows--not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

World English Bible
But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Young's Literal Translation
'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only;

ZinoFasisi:
Na pastor
No be scientist or mathematician abi theorist

Stop referring to science or research that cannot prove existence of God

Real and True Pastors are meant to work with God in spirit, not postulating theories

God is a "the" scientist. He created science.... As far as the science we know, life or the origin of the universe began from the Big Bang, aka the Big Bang Theory. Now let me ask you? How many years have you existed in this world? Maybe 20, 30, 50, 70? Ok, since you have been existing and become a self conscious, self aware and self cognitive being, have you ever seen an explosion or a fire start by itself without any external influence or causative elements? A fire or explosion just starts independently on its own without any force or action or influence from anything else or something? The answer can only be NO! So therefore, the Big Bang Theory proves we are not alone in existence, someone or something started that Big Bang explosion. And, I think that's God. You see, there are 2 categorizations of people that hold the reality of God's existence. Category 1: We have people who BELIEVE God exists, maybe because they read some religious books or were taught to accept that belief as their own etc. Category 2: We have people who KNOW God exists. Some of us don't "believe" God exists, we KNOW He does. And that knowledge is absolute. Take away the Bible or religous books, it doesn't matter, we still know there is a God in existence. The first category of people, those ones might have issues when you take away their religous books or question their beliefs, they might get confused, and they waiver in their convictions etc. But for those of us that KNOW God exists, it is our permanent reality. I don't need the Bible to know God exists. I found out for myself He does.

ibuildstuff:
Critical thinkers will be thinking of how to make the world better, not all this gabbrish.

If pastor Chris is serious he should come and dash me all his wealth since the world will end ten yrs from now.

You don't get it. What Pastor Chris is talking about is specific to Christians, who are the ones the rapture pertains to. And as per Christianity, the rapture is like one of the most important things or subjects or basis of Christian faith. So talking about rapture makes the world of Christianity a better place. It might be gibberish to you, but it's not gibberish to the Chosen ones who will hear the sound of the trumpet by the Angel and vamoose to Heaven.

murtalaa:
dude, who killed Galileo Galilei? Sure you are not confusing the bloke with another scientist?

Galileo was imprisoned by the Roman Catholics till his death, imprisoned because he refused to recant his theory that the Earth moved round the Sun. The Roman Catholics who were the rulers of that era believed the Sun moved around the Earth, and the Earth was stationary. Go and research on it and find out the truth for yourself

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Lemme just b calming dan

SarkinYarki:
They have invited MaiLafiya for the 3rd time yet quiet about Boko Haram camps around Abuja

I wanted to say Buhari APC is a scam but i remembered i already made a personal resolution to b calming dan this week. So I won't say it. Thank you!

But I think, she no kee person..... issokay! I want to be calming dan dis week. NO negative energy

Oh boy , this E250 driver get luck oh say na back d train catch. Chaiii ! May God continue to have mercy on me

michjunior:
IT WASNT A DELIBERATE ACT OF MURDER...THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO KILL IN THE FIRST PLACE...SO IT AN ACCIDENT...I DOUBT THE BOY WOULD BE CHARGE? MIND YOU HE IS 16

that's why there are different degrees of murder, like 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree etc. Killing someone by mistake doesn't excuse the fact that you killed someone. But it does mean you will be charged with a lesser degree of murder but you will be charged with murder nonetheless. People make mistakes all the time, but if it involves or results to a fatality, if no one is being held accountable, then what kind of society is that? The State has the duty to press murder charges.

kenzysmith:
you can't arrest a 16yr old just flog him and tell him not to do it again

Who told you a 16 year old can't be arrested. There is a government juvenile reform center aka "children's prison" along kudirat abiola way (oregun road) Ikeja, opposite the Conoil fuel station by the opebi link bridge diversion junction. Go there, you will find many children there.

MyExpression:
under 18...manslaughter

he will be sent to juvenile centre and be released for community service when he is 18

are we in America? Or Does Nigeria law have this stipulation? Can you share the info where the law is stated in Nigeria. It will be good for enlightenment

joseph1832:
Dude when did a theory become fact? A theory is just and exactly what it is, a theory. It is neither fact or proof of anything.

Any idiot with a phone can come up with a theory. It's that simple. Those who bet make predictions or even form theories about which team or whichever team will win a match. Can we now say that theory is right? Because more often than not, they're wrong that's why the Bet companies are raking in millions....

Now since you're so eager for me to come up with my own theory about when Rapture will occur. Here it is: Rapture will occur when The sun dies. You get it? When our Sun dies everything dies.

Fin.

When did i say it was a fact? I said he put forward a theory. A theory remains a theory until it is proven right or wrong, if proven right then it becomes fact or proven theory. He put forward a theory. You either prove him right or wrong. Not using such label as idiots roaming aimlessly. If his theory is idiotic, then drop your theory or fact that proves it to be idiotic. I'm not eager for your theory about when rapture will occur. I wanted to know your theory as to why you think his theory is idiotic. If you know something others don't know about it, then share it, share the idea or proof you have that makes his theory idiotic. The sun dying has nothing to do with rapture. Physics has already proven to us how the sun is like a giant nuclear reactor with billions of nuclear explosions per second, and when the "fuel rods" fueling the reaction are exhausted, the sun will burn out. How does that correlate with the event of biblical rapture? Or are you making your own theory that the saints will ascend to Heaven when the sun burns out? Because, the subject of this discussion is about the timing or period to expect the rapture to happen, not about when the sun will burn out. Because theoretically if the sun burns out then life on Earth can no longer be sustained or continue. But we already the know from scriptures that after the rapture occurs, life on Earth still continues. So it's an entirely different thing.

Izabel:
what's the year he mentioned?

Not sure if am 100% correct in interpretation, but he said something like 2030 being a reference of some sort, according to his calculation and then the rapture could either happen like 3 years before then, or 6 years there about after, or 10 years or something. So it was like a theoretical analysis. Do I know if he is right or wrong. NO! I don't have any research or deep knowledge on it. But I won't just insult and ridicule him for putting out such a theory. Most of the scientific laws we have in the world today were once theories put forward by people and during their time many of them were dismissed by their societies as either being crazy or stupid or heretic or possessed or something negative. But the wise societies didn't write them off outrightly, they sponsored expeditions and research to thoroughly analyse whatever those claims were, and sometimes in the process of trying to check if such theories were true, it was either they discovered Yes, it's true, or NO, it isn't true and then because they were doing their own research they sometimes will come up with a modified theory or a new theory that actually works. These are the things that fuelled human advancement. There was a time the theory that man could fly was considered stupid and crazy and impossible etc, but look at where we are today, because some people actually took the time to verify or disprove those theories. So for me, I think theories are good. At least, it presents a challenge for rational activities and helps to expand knowledge as people try to either workout such theories as correct or prove them wrong. Whichever the outcome is, it is good for Humanity. Thomas Edison speaking relative to theories that birth research and inventions said something like, He didn't fail, he just discovered 1000 ways it wouldn't work. So sometimes, to succeed we must fall first. Is Pastor Chris right about his theory? I DON'T KNOW. I really don't have an idea. But I love the fact that he tried to do something significant. I mean, the rapture is averu significant event and if we are even able to compute and understand or figure out a correct period for its possible occurrence, I think that's a very giant leap for Christianity and the world at large. Now that he has put forward this theory, I believe and expect other people, maybe theologians or pastors or religious community to look at what he said, and make a review to try to understand it first of all, and then analyse it to verify whether it's accurate or not. In the process, more theories might come forward, and before you know it, someone might eventually come up with something accurate and factual, or prove whether this theory Pastor Chris gave is true or not true. So it will cause people to try to push their boundary of knowledge further and test their minds for better ideas, and this is a good thing for Humanity. This is how we made progress this far. All the scientific laws we have today, whether physics, chemistry, biology or science in general, they were all theories at the beginning. It was when people made the effort to prove or disprove them, that they became laws after their authenticity were confirmed. That's it. So me I don't know why some people now have to turn this thing to an insult contest. If we keep ridiculing people like that, then we will kill the drive for creativity in people, because they will be afraid to come out or speak about the ideas or theories they found about for fear of being stigmatized by society. So I won't support that. I support creativity, I support free thinking. Yes some crazy ideas may come from time to time, but it will die natural death when it is found to be false. But then again, the best ideas also come from creativity and free thinking. That's part of the beauty of life

joseph1832:
Excuse me? Research on what? The day of rapture? Done make me laugh.

I've noticed a long time people like you always like speaking from both sides of your mouth. Lemme ask you this: between Jesus and Pastor Chris Oyakhilome who is the Son of God? You're talking about the rapture day that Jesus himself didn't even know the date bro. So what's all this nonsense you're talking about research.

Galileo's postulations and the end of the world are two very very different things bro, so please that example isn't feasible.

Oga the man dropped a theory! Prove it wrong and stop beating around the bush about who the Son of God is, is that the issue here or the subject matter? Jesus himself said, No man knows the DAY or HOUR of the rapture. Jesus DID NOT SAY, No man knows the YEAR, OR MONTH OR WEEK. The rapture is a specific event with a specific timing. So it can be calculated. A man has come out with his own idea and reasoning to put up a theory on the possible period the event of rapture can be expected. There's nothing wrong with what he did. He never said the rapture will take place on Oct 20, 2028 at 11:00AM. If he gave a pinpoint specific time like that, then he can easily be proven wrong and disproved to be incorrect with the very proof and fact of the scripture where Jesus said Nobody knows the day or hour. Did he say that? No! He only postulated on the possible years it could happen. He said it could be around 3 years before 2030 or 7 years after etc, or so I think if I get what he said well. Nonetheless, He has put forward a mathematically computable time frame with figures. He didn't say am angel showed him or say an invisible intangible object is the source of his claim. So it is left for others to review what he said and the theory he put forward to either prove or disprove it. Whether or not his theory is accurate is the next line of action, but it's an interesting theory all the same. You either prove it wrong with your own theory and proven law or you ignore if you don't understand what he's talking about.