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Image123:
Oh, when you say APC is 80% of PDP, then you should not have headaches or any problems with APC winning the elections since it's same same according to your theory. It's not an option up to me because i don't reason that way. The campaigns have been very clear and we can all see those that can at the least pretend to be disciplined, purposeful, issue based, and ready to do things differently. Things cannot and should not continue like this, the PDP thinks it should and that we are experiencing transformation. My faith is in God, i have none left for the PDP.
https://www.nairaland.com/859122/buhari-nigerias-head-state-1983-1985/6

Once again its ur choice and not mine....its one man one vote.....
well i have no problem with disgruntled and corrupt politicians moving from one party 2 another...it only shows desperation and d urge 2 hold on to power....but wen such politicians like akume and sylva come on d press 2 talk of corruption,it only makes me laugh at d formation of hypocrites masking as saints and so called agents of deir mirage called change....unfortunately,u have been influenced by deir farce but hey dats ok...its ur decision U are old enough 2 make ur choice which is a gud tin on ur path....

..and finally My faith is also in God and i believe in transformation,i believe in moving forward not backward..i have seen d masterplan of this Government and its a great path dat will lead 2 so many benefits..fortunately,one of his laudable programmes,YOUWIN,which up till now has remained under-rated as one of his laudable achievements,has been of immense benefit for me and other well meaning nigerians involved in d world of business....so like i initially said,its ur choice and ur right.....but choose wisely

vicchi12:
When humans like myself are talking, dogs are not invited. No insult intended.

Indeed stupidity has really consumed ur indomie distorted brain ....dat u still refer 2 ur self as a human only shows ur poor educational background....wat insolence....how old are u??..I can officially say at dis stage in ur life dat a chubby puppy has more intelligence dan ur very self....go get a life...

Image123:
The point he passed across is so simple, LEADERSHIP. People follow the leader. As corrupt and whatever Nigerians are, they behave when abroad, in traffic, business, exams, waste management etc. Because those places have a working government/leadership. Not the i wasn't consulted kind of management.
Also on Ameachi, that is very normal and his job. The question was a trip question, with neither response favoring Buhari's campaign. They do it everywhere, shielding presidents/leaders from potentially harmful questions. They do it in the US often to journalists. The president will not be taking questions at this time etc. i remember watching 24 some years ago and David Palmer was asked a question, someone shielded him from answering, though he later decided to answer. Point is, it's not a strange thing or a sign of the politicians being controlled. People have jobs to protect politicians to some extent from embarrassing or harmful questions. President Jonathan is number 1 proof, unfortunately gaffe plenty for him body.

Am hoping u are not alluding 2 d fact dat jesus christ and his disciples are now d twisted version of buhari and apc cartels...its not only shocking but also a pity dat its coming 4rm someone like u no matter ur political affiliation(well am guessing u r an apc supporter)
Of wat use is ur leadership if ur followers dont believe in ur "supposed Philosophy"...If he were in cpc,i wud have course to believe him but not this union called APC where deir so called masterplan is only but a coverup 2 continue deir looting of d national treasury...lets be frank with our selves,buhari is obviously going 2 be a puppet in d hands of d cartel in apc and its only a matter of time before it starts happening...

As 4 u refering amechi interrupting buhari as a norm is just a flimsy excuse 2 cover up d real crisis dat will soon take place wen dis adulterated union called APC is allowed to reign....lets say he was in a debate and such question was put across 2 him,will ameachi come and stop d debate because of such question?....just like u compared this to 24 series,My question is....inspite of his aides shielding him...did he still answer d question or not??
dats where u know a leader who is not afraid 2 answer any question no matter how complicated....dis is d reason why bakare is worried dat no matter d little crediblity he might have(which i personally doubt he has),he might not live 2 continue with his so called "corruption jingle" in d mist of money-hungry and crime laden politicians in APC masquerading as d "saint paul" of our time.

Christians for Good Governance indeed
Now dat d 6000 pastors have endorsed buhari and osibanjo,is it safe to say dat dose pastors have been bribed by APC same way sum blind-folded apc supporters accused GEJ of d same crime??

vicchi12:
Not surprised, small men think small. Having a Mosquito brain is nothing to be proud of, Sir/ Ma'am... No insults intended

am guessing dis reply was not directed 2 me because i didnt mention u...
how wud u insult sum1 and yet claim 'no insults intended' ...did u read ur very words before posting?
smh

medicine after death though better late than never...
If such declarations were done long ago,bokoharam wud have disappeared from d north...
but wen an "acclaimed saint with no spot" gave dem a muscle by saying dey were freedom fighters ...bokoharan went on a rampage...

garrix8:
They shouldn't just release statements, they should mobilise people to Vote against the inept and clueless Jonadunce who allowed Boko Haram to grow into what it is today. He was in aso rock scratching his balls while over 15,000 Nigerians were killed in cold blood and Millions rendered homeless.

Jonadunce will go down in history as a very useless President. His ignoble role in the growth of this terrorist group will be told to the next four generations of Nigerians.

Anyway, hope is just around the corner. Join hands with other lovers of Nigeria as we send the clueless one back to Otuoke and return the people's General to Aso Rock. Buhari will secure Nigerians and tackle corruption. He is the hope we have for a better Nigeria.

Vote Buhari..

Vote Change...

Vote Apc!!!!

smh

Promhize:
I meant the website. It still has 15th of March as final extension date

They havent updated d website after 15th march,2015 but if u try 2 do a new one,it will tell u..."stage one of youwin4 has closed"

wakacome:
Type "GEJ space clueless space back to otuoke"and send it to 5123,available to mtn,airtel and glo subscribers........

"i will stabilise oil price" - GMB.....for more jokes like this, type "buhari-joker" to 419..only #100

Zuria:
I want to endorse the President too, how do I go about it?

You have already done ur endorsement...just shout "GEJ 2019"

chamboy:
In as much, that his Environment is not trusted by Few but we see people around him Respect him.. That d Main Thing.. Jesus Disciples weren't like Jesus buh because of the Respect they have for Jesus they acted like him

sorry 4 quoting u but Jesus and his disciples being compared 2 buhari and APC stalwarts is not only shocking but insulting on d personality of Jesus Christ....
remember buhari didn't choose dose supporting him wit deir looted monies....dey chose him!
and just like wat amaechi did 2 buhari wen he was answering d press men,same will happen if he eventually becomes d president....
Dats wat Bakare fear most...he is afraid dat buhari can't face his facilitators and prosecute dem after he has been elected...
like wat my cousin said,if after election he is sworn in and keeps repeating d "war on corruption" song...d cartels in APC will just send him 2 a "long sleep"....lol

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Then you should have no problem since APC is 80%pdp to you. Anyone of them will be fine, right?

dat option is up to u not me..whether u choose APC or any other party is none of my business..i dont support hypocrites filled wit propagandas!

Image123:
PTF was not where all the money was, that is an ignorant statement. Kindly do your research or ask around. And your logic makes no sense. It's like picking up any top management staff in CBN or nnpc and accusing him or her of theft because he works where all the money is.

please wats d meaning and function of PTF during d military era?...are u aware dat like NDDC,PTF had powers(if not more Dan Nddc) 2 command funds for projects... It was also another way of siphoning funds to oda countries?....If u claim ptf has no power 2 give or take funds,why was it probed by a panel setup by obasanjo in 1999 for mismanagement of d nation's funds?..

..i dont mean 2 sound rude but please mind ur language and besides i was never referring 2 u neither did i mention u....if ur way of discussing issues is engaging in insults like u do on d religious section,den u just found d right match...i repeat watch ur language cos u wudnt want us 2 go down dat path and u personally wont like how it will pan out...smh

Image123:
Oh, you take everything you read in the papers seriously? Well i have video proof where Buhari clearly referred to Abachas administration as that of wanton corruption. I believe the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gAr77wWNms&itct=CDgQpDAYASITCP_j04q5ssQCFUPHcAodHBgAjVIdRkcgYm9rbyBoYXJhbSBCdWhhcmkgY2hhbm5lbHM%3D&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en

personally i believe wat Thisdaylive put up...but dat was many years ago....Unfortunately,most of d papers have taken down any incriminating evidence against buhari but d fact remains dat he said so 2 cover up his tracks.....and besides,u do know very well dat every thing can be altered including a video....like it or not,buhari is not d person many people are painting him as....unfortunately he surrounds himself with corrupt politicians...how can u fight corruption with corruption?

olas24u:
well you dont want to accept that Abacha was set up by OBJ just to discredit him ,because he dealt with him,all those figures are invisible figures .Its was a strategy to loot money by blaming all missing money on Abacha. If he did not die nothing of such would have happened .If you have all your evidence against Buhari you cant present them in court.The fact that you are an honest Nigerian does not mean you will not have friends and work with other people .PTF was an agency of government and you cannot rule out anything since the people working in PTF are a product of Nigerian society .

please stop shifting d goal post..accept it dat abacha stole our treasury dry and for once admit it dat u had it all wrong....
u r just making baseless speculation without facts....first u said d west were responsible for making abacha look bad because he was military now u r now blaming obasanjo...how far can u go by defending a man apparently guilty of looting nigeria dry....even his family members know dat abacha looted..u r d only one who claims dat he was setup by obasanjo without evidence?...

Now to ur glorified "corruption activist" buhari,he puts himself up as a perfect man without blemish....if u know wat it is 2 hold a public office,u will know d responsibilities....as ptf chairman,he had knowledge of ALL the transactions made by abacha or his sons....nothing passed by him without him being informed....how can u be in charge of an office and yet u dont know wat is happeningi dat office....
if u were in charge of a department in a company and there was a mishandling of funds by ur department,who do u tink will be held responsible?
...its all about taking responsibilities and accepting u r wrong and not defend sum1 because u want 2 cover up ur tracks...dats wat buhari did!

One tin i have noticed,wen it seems dat a person is has been found to be guilty with facts,is dat ur likes resort 2 asking dat such cases be taken to court...
...And pls i dont wish for him to be in prison with wat i know about him(he is now aged) but he sud not come and claim 2 be mr righteous or saint micheal wit no skeleton in his wardrope!
he claims he wants 2 fight corruption and yet he surrounds him self with people of questionable characters...how do u prosecute d same people who gave u a platform 2 b president with deir looted funds...?

If indeed he wanted 2 end corruption like he always preaches,he sud have remained in CPC and contest dis year's election....there are atleast some credible individuals with some little conscience not APC....not a party filled with corrupt politicians battle to ensure dat APC is brought into power so dat d looting can continue from where they started...dat according 2 someone on nairaland is called LOOT-OCRACY

Image123:
Please, be my friend and show me where Buhari said that Abacha did not steal. Thanks.

Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, who ruled Nigeria between 1983 and 1985, and his successor, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, gave Abacha the clean bill in Kano yesterday after the rememberance prayers marking 10 years of the death of Abacha, who ruled between 1993 and 1998.

Abacha was accused of stealing nearly £5 billion while in office, out of which over $1 billion has reportedly been recovered from various sources around the world.

But Babangida, who described Abacha as a “courageous, loyal and honest military head of state who stood for the unity and development of the country during his years in government”, has dismissed the allegations.

He said the looting allegations against Abacha were unfounded and baseless, stressing that “it is not true that he looted public treasury. I knew who Abacha was because I was close to him”.

Babangida said: “Abacha was a courageous person who stood firmly in handling the affairs of the country during his regime.”

He added that the regime of Abacha brought positive changes in the country which should have been emulated.

He said 10 years after the death of Abacha, his contributions to the nation’s economy remain indelible.

“There is no doubt, during his administration as head of state, Abacha contributed his best to the nation’s economy which we are still enjoying,” he said.

Babangida’s new position however contrasts with what he told Newswatch magazine in July 2000.

He had said: “The revelations [on Abacha’s loot] surprised me. I am surprised, because I didn't know.”

He had also explained that Abacha's death brought "relative stability", adding that "it gives us, oh well, let's see, there is hope after all".

Babangida, in that interview, also blamed the society for allowing Abacha to grow into the dictator he became.

"I feel bad that society failed to realise that they have a duty to protect whatever values they hold dear to their hearts as far as this country is concerned. At any rate, there are people I like and do respect those who stood against the regime, who are not military officers but civilians who are able to speak out. They didn't mince words and if their views had been heard, he wouldn't have [done enough harm]," he had said in response to a question.

Buhari, in his own comments yesterday, described the allegations of looting against Abacha as “baseless”, because according to him, “ten years after Abacha, those allegations remain unproven because of lack of facts”.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200806090008.html

olas24u:
why are you trying to include Buhari, he had is own designation in which he performed so well.i was trying to tell you that you cannot be against the west and still keep money in their banks ,it may also be a propaganda because he was dead.The Man rejected IMF loans for Nigeria.And i dont think they cant even return any more because it will affect their economy ,so it may be invisible money .Brother think and dont sink the news just like that into you .You may still be correct but i doubt ,because we know the Nigerian budget as at that time and he ruled for 5 years. Buhari constructed classrooms,schools roads and many more all over Nigeria

let's say I believe dat he constructed schools and roads according 2 u,did he get d money from d skies?
was it not tru him dat monies passed left,right and centre?
was his office not where d monies pass tru...?
no fund passes tru ptf with out his knowledge.. Dats d truth!
so spare me d 'yan' dat ur "glorified saint" buhari is totally free from blame...
can he swear dat during his time in office as ptf chairman dat he didn't know or had any knowledge of d monies dat were going out of d country?

in a developed country,buhari sud be cooling off in a federal prison for years...how can he claim he had no knowledge of d transactions dat abacha or his sons were making? dat talk even makes him guilty of complicity...smh

even obasanjo during d probing on ptf in 1999,blamed d office of buhari 4 mismanagement of funds...

d earlier u realise d kind of leaders we had den,d more u realise dat u have probably been deceived by deir sweet talk and appearance.... nothing is wat it seems my friend..

as 4 d west being against abacha,i cant but laugh at such conclusions...Dats u placing ur own analogy...d west have shown us dat abacha stole money and abacha's family members Neva at any point deny it...
d great Achebe once said dat "unless d lion create deir own history,d history of d hunt will always belong 2 d hunter"....can u prove wit facts dat abacha did not loot our treasury?
can d abacha family prove dat dey didnt loot monies?
until u answer dese questions wit facts,dont tink of bringing in d west in Dis issue....smh

Infact d latest swiss monies dat was sent 2 Nigeria was as a result of a pact made BTW d federal government and d abacha family....dey were about 2 b convicted and sentenced b4 dey made an agreement dat dey will give up d looted monies in swiss in order 4 d federal government 2 drop d case against dem...

anonimi:
Buhari is one of the WORSTEST thieves to ever rule us but knows how to PRETEND like a charmaeleon.
QED!!!




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dat man buhari is wat dey refer during d 70s as "SMOOTH OPERATOR"....."don't ask don't tell"

olas24u:
Abacha could not be controlled by the west ,and coupled with the political situation at that time which impacted on the regime,he was a tough leader,some of the money in question are for his sons ,that acted without his knowledge.The real information is with the elites not the ones we are debating .How come all the money that was returned re-looted ?The new money will be re-looted. Abacha banned British Airways from Nigeria and they came begging ,you think they will forgive him.They control the media and the information flow,Abacha was discipline leader that had a a bad press.

Hahahahahahahahaha.... u make me laff....so u r indirectly saying dat abacha didn't steal any money but kept sum 4 his sons....r u reading ur own words....?
pls did he steal any money...whether its 4 his sons or himself?
we are not talking about d how d money dat was recovered was den taken again...obasanjo has dat answer 4 u because it was under his watch dat d monies were recovered and den disappeared in thin air....
elites or no elites....did abacha loot our national treasury under "saint" buhari?
or did buhari do d "say no evil see no evil" stunt during abacha's tenure?

olas24u:
He was a former PTF chairman and he manage is office efficiently well and built infrastructures such as roads in many parts of Nigeria.In politics you cannot be rigid , when you are rigid you cannot win political support , politicians are very flexible,social , and tricky.some are dumb but use thuggery and intimidation to get their way . so he had to make that statement as at that time for political purpose,because it was only because Abacha was dead that is why we had a ll this information what about the once that are living with us .

how did u know dat he managed his office well...were u dere?
if abacha hadn't kicked d bucket wud any one know how much he gathered 2 foreign countries....
being a former ptf chairman makes him culpable because Dats where all d money was.....is he saying dat he had no single information about d numerous cash moving in and out of d country?
is he saying he had no single records of d transactions dat were made during abacha's tenure?
as I talk 2 u d swiss bank has just released part of d monies dat abacha looted and sum1 is telling me abacha Neva stole any money simply because he wants 2 cover up his own tracks..just like u said,abacha's sins where revealed wen he died....but dats not d point....d point is did he or did he not loot d nation's treasury under buhari's watch?

freshcvv:
And APc remains the only viable alternative to PDP, so when he tries to devalue them, what he is doing indirectly is giving PDP the other hand.. He should stop sitting on the fence.

Neva will APC b a viable option 2 PDP..talk about oda parties but not apc...APC is made of up of at most 80% of former PDP members...and most of dem also have criminal cases wit efcc....how does a corrupt politician fight corruption....is it possible?
as 4 Bakare,he was only stating d obvious about d deceptive union of APC....unfortunately buhari is entangled in deir web of deceit....even if he finally gets 2 aso rock which I doubt,he will become an obvious "puppet" 4 d APC "cartels" who will milk Dis country dry...! smh

olas24u:
That was a political statement and you should have understood it as a political statement .He his now a politician and politicians are not rigid people.

so because its a buhari issue its now a political statement...lol
don't u know dat abacha stealing also implicates buhari since he was part of abacha's cabinet.... Dats y he said dat abacha did steal any money....political statement indeed....Lol...u make me laff

Image123:
GEJ's manners are already corrupted beyond redemption, so he doesn't even appear as an option. For Buhari, the point of the merger is to win. He cannot win with scripture union party, he'll just be among the 14 or so irrelevant parties. BTW, where did Buhari say a former head of state didn't steal?

well am all 4 facts 2 prove dat Gej is corrupt beyond redemption..... not newspaper speculations or people's perceptions about someone....he may no be d best and he may have made sum unavoidable mistakes in d past...but I choose him over an acclaimed saint who surrounds himself wit corrupt financiers...its only a matter of time before he starts doing wat dey are doing...
as for d statement credited 2 buhari dat abacha did not steal any money,let Google b ur friend....lol

nortcentrallord:
Like the decision he made When Ameachi prevented him from answering the question from the reporter today?
Wao! What a wonderfull decision that was.

Hahahahahahahahaha... Dats just d beginning!

freshcvv:
Before now, he tried almost alone yet una no vote for am, now that he added numbers that wins election, una dey talk about the numbers..

If Buhari environment is in doubt, what then do you say of the ruling party?

Bakare wasn't talking about PDP....neither was he comparing APC 2 PDP.....he was referring 2 d personality of buhari....not Gej...

Bakare in other words is saying buhari might have gud intentions 4 Dis country but d "people" around him will ensure dat such plans won't take place during his tenure....dat is a recipe 4 disaster....9ja vote wisely!!

mrrock:
Buhari is surrounded left and right by thieves. Buhari is an old man and an illiterate who wouldn't know what's going on in his government.
A Buhari government will be lootocracy (a government where you can steal as much as you want).
Just imagine the volume of wealth Tinubu have been able to squeeze out of Lagos state alone, then imagine what he will do when he have access to Nigeria's oil wealth. He will buy a country like Cuba!.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Dannyset:
This Pastor tho!
If Buhari is truly who we've bn hearing he is, then, am pretty sure he can take care of this his environment ur talking about sir.
Sai Baba!

evil communications CORRUPT good manners....wit such circle of friends around him,d change he intends 2 make won't happen....Dats if he has Nigeria's best interest in mind....but if a man who intends 2 fight corruption is defending a former head of state who almost milked Nigeria dry saying dat person didn't steal any money,I doubt his intent 2 tackle corruption...

Krasid:
A good team will beat this Monaco team.I hope they are paired with R.madrid.

real Madrid mite b beaten by a lowly Monaco side...Dats because dere is a serious crisis in real Madrid...but teams like Monaco and Porto must b taken extremely serious... aside moutinho and barbetov dey don't have too many established and well known players...dat makes dem unpredictable hence deir surprise win against arsenal in d first leg...

Promhize:
17th and it seems like Youwin has been abandoned

patience bro u will b contacted tru ur mail or phone number...4 now take ur mind of Youwin by doing oda tins dat are not related 2 youwin...it helps!

caprini1:
Monaco is just a bonus team for the big boys to slaughter in the quarter finals.

same thought arsenal had wen dey met Monaco...d rest is history

for more dan 5 seasons,champions league football aka 4th spot
after a second round exit,d same arsenal team NEARLY QUALIFIED....
same team,same coach,same talk every season....