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mikeapollo:
You are still in the business of mischief! Yes, by making reference to Jews in Iran and telling me to ask myself why Ayatollah wants to destroy Israel.
You want me to ask myself why Iran's Ayatollah would want to wipe out Israel?.
But have you answered the question whether it makes any sense at all or if the Ayatollah should be accorded the luxury to explain or justify why he should declare or aim to wipe off another country from the earth? Is the Ayatollah God?
Should he or his followers and believers be allowed to play God to explain or justify such declaration in the first place? Would you accept any reason he gives as justified or justifiable?

Okay, you don’t have answers...

My advice still stands: do your homework, don’t just echo whatever you hear. Ask questions, seek truth and logic. Thank you.

mikeapollo:
You are one of the people who love to twist narratives to serve your interests, even in the face of obvious truth.

The Iranian regime, since 1979 under Ayatollah Khomeini , declared their ambition to wipe Israel off the surface of the earth. Netanyahu was not the PM of Israel at the time.
Ayotallah Khamanei, since coming to power in 1989, continued the declaration and ambition to destroy Israel. Netanyahu was not the PM of Israel in 1989

You are quiet and silent on the unwarranted, irresponsible and reckless declaration and ambition by the Iranian regime to unleash bloodshed and kill Israelis living in Israel, exterminate them from this world by building nuclear weapons and sponsoring terror allies in Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis etc.
Rather, probably by reason of high-grade anti-Israel mischief, you are now turning around to blame Netanyahu and accuse him of aiming to secure uncontested power in the middle east! How pathetic!

With the direction of your assertions in these matters, I would not be surprised if one day, you blame the leaders of Benue and Plateau and accuse them of fighting the Fulanis because they want to secure uncontested power in the middle belt!

Let’s assume your claims are true, then why? Why would the Ayatollah want to wipe out Israel? You need to calm down and think; I believe that’s far better than regurgitating others’ opinions.

Why would Iran want to destroy the Jews when Jews are also a group within Iran? Or did you not know that? There are Iranian Jews; in fact, one of their synagogues in Tehran was hit and destroyed by an Israeli airstrike a few days ago.

So, why? Learn to think for yourself and filter what you read and hear, it’s a useful skill.

Streetinvestor2:
You didn’t read that the war is about trump dragging girlfriend with the late Iranian leader. Or it is about thr inheritance
For isreal the leaders of the country want death to her citizens like Tinubu don't care about how many Nigerians are killed by terrorist. I hope I now have idea to you..lol

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So this is the basis of your argument? Wow, no need.

olaremint:
Are u sure those leaders are really important? Iran should be like Saudi, Kuwait, UAE by now

The reason Iran has struggled to develop is largely due to sanctions imposed by the U.S. The petrodollar system is very powerful, it gives the U.S. significant influence over global money flows and the ability to pressure weaker countries. If you refuse to play along, you risk being cut off from the global economy.

Even so, Iran is still more developed than Nigeria. We graduate thousands of engineers every year, yet as a nation we struggle to translate that into meaningful technological progress.

With the gradual decline of the petrodollar system and U.S. influence, it will be interesting to see how things unfold in the coming years.

stcool:
The way some of you people reason is appalling. Do you know the damage done to Iran will take years, if not decades to fix. At some point you expect the oil route to reopen and that is why just happened but the damage done to Iran and their leaders can't be fixed.

What about the damage done to the USA? The petrodollar concept that has helped the U.S. fund its development for almost 50 years is coming to an end. The dollar-for-crude system has been cracked open. It was already happening gradually, with Russia and China increasingly buying and selling crude in non-dollar currencies, and this Iran war will only accelerate that shift.

Regarding Iranian infrastructure, don’t worry, China and Russia are there. Iran will likely rebuild faster than you expect. It has oil (and therefore money) and powerful allies. At the end of the day, they have kept their uranium and still retain the freedom to pursue their missile capabilities. If there was division before, this war may have helped unify the country.

You should be asking: what has the U.S. actually gained from this campaign?

Netanyahu will likely be dissatisfied, as his objective appears to have been the complete destruction of Iran to secure uncontested power in the Middle East.

If I were Iran, I would quickly restock from China and Russia, especially anti-missile systems and air defenses, because Netanyahu could return with another justification for an attack.

EDUECO:
And you're an adult that believe in the USA and Israel propagandas?

Stop arguing with people who clearly have no idea what’s going on. Ask Street to explain what this war is about, and you’ll be surprised by how little he actually understands. It’s the same issue as always, people take sides based on emotions rather than a clear grasp of the situation.

For those who think critically and genuinely seek the truth, the U.S. will not be the same internationally after this war. Trump will face his downfall sooner rather than later. That’s my prediction, take note.

I’m not here to fight or argue with anyone. This is simply my view. If you disagree, make your own prediction and let time decide.

People who made money in Ellah Lakes have made money; those who lost, lost and the rest can keep wailing. Not everyone has to be an investor. It’s perfectly legal to trade any stock on the NGX. And to a large extent, it is the duty of the NGX to protect investors.

I traded Ellah Lakes from 3 up to between 6 and 8, then decided to exit while waiting for further justification. Trading is about buying and selling at a higher price while managing risk, I’ve said this before.

Streetinvestor2:
The fact remains your noise or that of anyone will not make any difference. You whr waiting to see Iran wipe out isreal or any other small country by the terrorist backed government. I can bet you till christ returns .It will never happen. It does not matter how many AI generated history you try to post.Make sure you go to other forums whr your ID is not hidden to be making your post so it could be heard .

It sounds like you get your news from a beer parlor. I don’t have time to educate you individually. Take the time to study, or remain ignorant, that’s your choice.

What is driving the U.S. is hubris, the sense of invincibility that will be badly punctured.

GeeKudi:
Iran is not going to give up anything. Whatever Iran is doing is motivated by the ideology that they are doing it for 'god'. If you are going into a war with them. go all in and get the job done and not just some media propaganda. Recession is around the corner.

Lol, how exactly do you intend to get that done? Iran’s terrain alone is a massive advantage, and that’s before even considering the fact that they’ve been preparing for this scenario for years.

The U.S. would suffer heavy casualties if it pursued a ground invasion, and it still will not win the war.

Anyway, you’ll understand when it starts unfolding.

Lol,

awesomeJ:
You mean your own strategy will soon cast


You don't have any clue on what I do so why not speak just on the one you understand.


When you say a strategy will cast, it's only your own strategy that will experience that cos that's the only one you know.


This is an upgrade though from when you thought it was all false or that it could only work in a bull market.

You always try to explain something you're completely clueless about.

Ok nah, kwantinue. You nah big genius.

awesomeJ:
Q1 2025, I started with a N2m portfolio, and then took loans at up to 156%, now i reject loan offers, I even reject money from friends at 0% cost

God is awesome!

That edge will be quickly eroded once others catch on to what you’re doing (Have been eating from it too in the last few months). This strategy won’t last long if you keep exposing it, buying from impatient sellers and flipping for small profits. You should already be planning your next strategy, because at this rate, you’ll soon be sharing those returns with a wave of new entrants, some of whom may be even smarter and more resourceful than you. You dey make money, enjoy your money na, make the thing no cast.

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Teenaira:
Oh, I see. So Jerusalem was originally occupied by Ijebu people. Now, I know. They should finish their illegal fights so that we can go back to claim the land.

chimex38:
Interesting..
Very possible. Wars and conquered lands were the norm at the time Jacob(Israel) left Laban as an apprentice , he had amazed a fortune enough to conquer territories.

Let me understand, are you asking for handouts?

In the Bible, Jacob was born in Canaan (specifically in the south, near Beersheba). However, his family were considered “resident aliens” or migrants.

1. His grandfather (Abraham): was an immigrant from Iraq (Ur).

2. His mother (Rebekah): was from Syria/Mesopotamia (Padan-Aram).

3. Jacob himself: spent 20 years living in Syria, married two Syrian women, and had almost all his children there before returning to Canaan.


So, while he was born on the land, the Bible consistently describes his family as “sojourners”, people living in a land that belonged to others (the Canaanites).

Hahahaha. The matter tire ooo.

chimex38:
I don't think one can rule out documentations that outlived centuries.
I am a Cherokee, I need to find my own documented Bible like history. 📖 ..😭😭😭

You and who get Nigerian roots?
#AnyWayToJapa
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Let me shock you a little: the biblical narrative is very clear that Jerusalem was a city belonging to another people group, the Jebusites, long before the Israelites arrived. The Israelites came from elsewhere and surrounded Jerusalem, capturing it under King David around 1000 BCE.

So even the Bible clearly shows that Jerusalem and its surroundings were acquired through conquest. Please, no insults, check your Bible.

chimex38:
Maybe if my ancestors bin document "our true lineage " centuries ago with geographic location for historical book , by now na war front I for dey fight to reclaim my true Village for Silicon Valley USA or Switzerland or Luxembourg. Displace whoever dey live there currently.
#Imagination

It is not about documentation. We know for a fact that the Cherokee were the natives of the USA, but they haVe no backing.

The Jews, because of Germany, and also because Germany lost to Britain, were favored, and many of them are Europeans.

So the Bible is just a side story used to appeal to religious people. I know that, as a Christian, it can soften your heart.

mikeapollo:
Stop using after thoughts to rationalize inaccurate assertions. The Jews never left the land in totality. There were always Jews living in the land at every point in history though they became minority after the land was atacked and conquered through ages. The Arabs did not welcome the Jews as you want to make us believe. They never wanted Israel and the Jews to exist as a nation and some of them believe it is their religious obligation to exterminate the Jews from the earth. The mere fact that they refuse to recognize Israel up to date is enough proof.

No, you are wrong. Go and check again. The Romans expelled them and even banned them from entering Jerusalem and its surroundings. Many of them were killed at the time. The Jewish return is relatively recent. Please do your research.

mikeapollo:
You see how you expose your own inaccuracies and lies?
The second to the last paragraph (in your post above) states clearly that the Jews accepted the 1947 UN plan to split the land but the Arabs rejected it, leading to the 1948 war (just at the establishment of State of Israel)

Yet, In one of your earlier posts, you said the Arabs initially accepted the Jews but the fight/confluct was caused by Israel's quest for more land.!

My friend, stop pretending being an expert in this matter.

Your problem is that you just want to prove me wrong for the sake of it, nothing more. You have access to data and the internet on your phone, and I assume you have the same level of critical thinking as I do (maybe more). Do your homework.

Let me clarify this one more time. Prior to the UN plan, some Jews had already begun returning to those lands. Many of them bought land from Arabs who were living there at the time. So yes, Jews were initially welcomed.

Then the UN, which you could argue was influenced by Britain, the USA, and Europe, decided to compensate Jews for the Holocaust carried out by Germany against Jews, and proposed a two-state solution. But that land was already inhabited by other people.

What do you think those people would naturally do? What would you have done if your forefathers had lived on that land for generations, and now outsiders came and started telling you a different story?

Once again, you have the same resources as I do. Do your research.

PropTrader:
There was no modern state of Israel before 1948. True. But the cities that were owned and controlled by Jews/Hebrews and later including the foreigners introduced by Nebuchadnezzar (later known as Samaritans) such as Jerusalem etc. have been in existence for centuries. For equity we can't start talking about that nation from 1948. That territory with capital at Jerusalem has been under control of Romans, Arab Muslims and expanded Europe (read that as England and Spain) at different times but it does not mean any of them are owners of that small strip in the Middle East. Modern State of Israel as a nation is accomodative and made up of Jews, Europeans, Muslims, Ethiopians etc. but some people who are implacable still don't want to see it stand alone as a nation state.

No, don’t portray Israel as if it is on the receiving end, that is not the case at all. My stance is this: the Jews were dispersed by the Romans during the Roman Empire because they were not subservient. After that, other people, also originally from the region but from different groups, inhabited the land. The USA and the UK reinstated Israel by force to compensate for the Holocaust. Then Israel began claiming more land, and with the support of the USA and the UK, it captured additional territory. Ask yourself: why is part of it called the “occupied West Bank”?

mikeapollo:
This is disgusting mischief, lies and ignorance woven together! You make it sound as if the Arab had the right to decide who lives where and did the Jews a favour!
What is the business of the Arabs if Jews were returning to their anient Jewish land.
For your information, the Arabs declared wars IMMEDUATELY after the State of Israel was established. There was nothing like "acceptance" by Arabs.
For instance, Jordan attacked and conquered Judea and Samaria, Jerusalem, Hebrone eyc during the 1948/49 war, annexed re-named it "West Bank" in 1950. Israel recaptured the place in the 1967 war and then, all of a sudden, some people started calling the place "Palestinian occupied territory"

It’s like you just want to argue for argument’s sake. Some people were forced out 2,000 years ago, and others replaced them, which is natural, so where exactly are they supposed to come back to?

Australia is not originally White; the real natives are Aboriginal people, who were suppressed by the British. Does it make sense to forcefully remove present-day Australians, who are mostly of British descent, to make way for Aboriginal people?

Or does it make sense to remove present-day Americans because Native Americans lived there before? Please be impartial in your judgment.

mikeapollo:
Thank you for this. Now, go back and read it once again You just confirmed that the land belonged to the Jews. Case closed!

The "Professor" title awarded to you still stands, until you profess something wrong, or misleading or fallacious

No, it doesn’t. You were dispersed, you lost your land, and other people took it and lived there for thousands of years. The land does not belong to you, but to the people currently living there.

By the same logic, Native Americans lived in what is now the United States, and Europeans, especially the British, fought and killed many of them. Should current americans, then, be removed from the USA according to your reasoning?

The funny thing is that Arab nations initially accepted the return of the Jews, but then Israel began expanding beyond the land that was allocated to it. Because it had the backing of Britain and the United States, it was able to capture more territory and displace the people living there, the Palestinians.

Why, then, would you expect there to be peace? Not only that, Israel and the United States have been influencing Arab and Persian states in ways that have limited their military strength. This is one reason we see various groups engaging in guerrilla warfare against Israel.

Israel seeks greater control in the Middle East to influence regional outcomes. This is why Iran is being targeted, and some argue that if Iran is weakened, countries like Turkey could be next, there are already statements from some Israeli leaders portraying Turkey as an even greater concern than Iran.

At its core, this conflict is about power and control, not what it is often presented to be.

mikeapollo:
You are getting it mixed up! What is causing the problem is SOVEREIGNTY over the LAND.
It is colonial masters or rulers that declare Statehood and they do so when they are satisfied or pushed to do so based on various factors or circumstances.
And why are you so obsessed with the fact that Israel was not a State before 1948.? . Can you answer why there was no Egyptian State before 1922? And why there were no Jordanian and Syrian States before 1946?. So Israel in 1948 is nothing unique or strange. But this does that mean that the LANDS with people with history and culture did not exist. Every country or State in this world had indigenous people with history and culture existing or living on a paricular LAND before the LAND was declared a State. The LAND must have been in existence before a State, not vice versa.
There had been people with history and culture living on the LAND before Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya etc became States in the 1950/60.

There were always Jewish population on their land even when they were under different colonial rulers and when the land was conquered during different wars. They were never wiped off completely even though in the minority so they could not muster the strength and courage to push out the strangers that colonised their land.

If you do not know or understand the circumstances and history behind how some Jews found themselves in Europe and across the world, then you may not be competent enough to discuss this issue.

I am afraid, the " Professor" title that was awarded to you is now under serious re-evaluation and scrutiny.
Kwantinue!

Let me tell you what happened, I hope you learn something today.

1. The Great Revolt (66–73 CE)

Cause: Rebellion against Roman taxation and religious interference.

Key Event: The Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE), led by the future Emperor Titus.

Outcome: Destruction of the Second Temple; thousands were killed or enslaved.

Legacy: Initiated the first major wave of the Jewish diaspora.

2. The Bar Kokhba Revolt (132–136 CE)

Leader: Simon bar Kokhba, who briefly established an independent state. (Not Ireal to be clear)

Roman Response: Emperor Hadrian launched a campaign of total suppression.

Casualties: Approximately 580,000 Jews were killed, and about 1,000 villages were destroyed.

Rebranding: Hadrian renamed the province Syria Palaestina (after the Philistines) and banned Jews from Jerusalem to sever their connection to the land.

Since then, they dispersed and integrated across different parts of the world. Don’t be surprised that some of them are in places like Iran.

Egypt, however, was never similarly dispersed; it has consistently been the land of the Egyptians, with a history going back more than 6,000 years.

SonofElElyonRet:
Study your history. Modern state of Israel is different from the ancient nation of Israel. There was a dispersion after the 70AD revolt. Even before that, there was a dispersion when Babylon conquered Israel/Judah. What happened in 1948 was a regathering to form the modern state of Israel

So Jews were dispersed for 2,000 years, and now the people who have lived there during that time are expected to become occupied and controlled because some people claim to be descendants of Jews. I don’t see how that logic is justified. In fact, many, arguably the majority, are not originally Jewish but are Europeans who later adopted the religion.

Moreover, there was never a nation of Israel at any time before 1948, check this fact carefully. Jerusalem and its surroundings were not home to Israelites alone; check your Bible again.

If that is the case, then Americans, both Black and White, should also be forcefully removed, since thousands of years ago, America was home to Native Americans. Have you heard of the Aztec civilization? These were among the original peoples of lands now called the USA, yet I don’t see you arguing in their favor after Europeans decimated them.

Why does this argument apply to Jews but not to Native Americans?

mikeapollo:
This shows your undiluted bias against Israel and total disregard for historical, cultural and scientific facts and truth! You must have been swallowed completely by the lies and propaganda from channels like AlJazeera, Press TV etc
The LAND of Israel and its kingdoms of Judea, Samaria, Gallilee, Jerusalem etc existed more than 3000 years ago alongside Eqypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan. True or false? King David established Jerusalem as the capital of the LAND of Israel over 3000 years ago. True or false? There is a long chronology of Jewish Kings who ruled over the LAND of Israel? True or false? The language was Hebrew. True or false? The LAND of Israel, like Hebron, Beersheba, Shiloh have the graves and tombs where their ancestors and prophets like jacob, Joseph, Isaac, Rebecca, Leah, Esther, Jesus Christ etc were buried. True of false? The Romans ruled over the LAND of Israel just as they did over some other placess in that region. True or false?
By your post, you prefer that all these facts be sacrificed and thrown away in order to satisfy and pacify the Arabs (most popular ethnic group?) simply because they don't want the Israelis or Jews in their midst? So Israel and Jews should be obliterated and wiped off the place in inorder to make their adversaries and people who share your sentiments to be happy and peaceful?
Tell me any single book of history of the LAND of Israel and its neighbours that is more factual and authentic than the Bible and Quran? Put the Bible aside and read Quran chapter 5 vs 20-21. Is that a "pretext" too? Where do you find a place called "Palestine"?
Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel have been neighbours for more 3000 years and they experienced colonial rule at different tines. Egypt became a State in 1922 when it gained independence. Lebanon became a State in 1942. Syria and Jordan became States in 1946. So why single out Israel for becoming a State in 1948 and forment trouble and wars because of that? From your post, you seem to infer that Israel should never have become a State and their land should have been divided and shared amongst new settlers simply because some people never wanted their existence or presence in the region?
This clearly shows that the problem is from the Arabs and not Israel.
The Arabs waged several wars against Israel and lost lands in the orocess. But Israel has returned lands to Egypt, Jordan after they signed the peace pacts.

But there was no state of Israel before the 1940s, you can confirm this. Israel as a country was established in 1948. One could even argue that Nigeria, as a country, is older. This is a fact you can verify. In all your long writing, you never mentioned why there was no Jewish state prior to the 1940s In fact, there were no Jews living in those lands. They came from all over the world; this shows a gap in your knowledge.

Why don’t you calm down and do some research, or ask me respectfully so I can explain it to you?

Valthegreat:
Non of these can equal nuclear weapon in the hand of Iran or any other Islamic fanatic nation e.g Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon etc. that will be as good as giving a mass destruction button to a mad man.
Don't ask me how I knew Trump's isn't just giving the dog a bad name to hang it. The antecedents of Iran shows that if they can lay their hands on Nuclear weapon by any means they will develop it just to wipe out Israel and America.
Russia has plenty Nuclear weapons but can never try to use it against Ukraine no matter how hard Ukraine has proved to be.
Israel has and can never contemplate despite having enemies everywhere but Iran can not be trusted by anyone in the world their extremism is out of this world.

Actually, there are several hard-line Islamic countries that possess nuclear weapons. For example, Pakistan, India’s long-standing rival due to the Kashmir conflict, has them, yet we have not seen them used. Iran is not an Arab country; it is overwhelmingly Persian. Even if Iran had nuclear weapons, they would likely be among the last to use them.

If you are following the conflict, most of Iran’s actions can be seen as counter-moves. Let’s hope the United States does not nook them, because that risk appears to be increasing. It is contradictory to accuse a country of pursuing something you already possess, if it is truly unacceptable, why keep it in your own arsenal? Much of the current tension exists because Iran does not yet have nuclear weapons. In my view, Iran is likely to become a nuclear state soon.