₦airaland Forum

Sam xiu lee: but you can't change igbos with your rhetorics,and its unfair to generalise them like that.we southernres need each other against the monolithic North.
General Buhari,no doubt has the passion for this country,but my problem is that he doesn't condemn the actions of his fulani people,and that of boko haram,he should start doing that with all honesty if he want our vote,we av not forgotten our brothers and sisters that were killed after the election by his supporters,he have to address that too.

Were you in this country when Azazi said some elements within pdp were behind boko haram which led to Azazi removal and subsequent death in an helicopter crash? Given that Azazi cant lie against his own people, what therefore should concern Buhari in all these? It goes back to this same thing, open your mind and accommodate other tribes and their belief. It is the same hatred for others that blocks your senses thereby muddling issues up and deverting peoples attention away from the real issue confronting us. How many of you today condemed PDP following the Azazi revelation? How many of you condemed his removal as a result of this? Hypocrites...

calaway: Has the Igbo man ever killed any yoruba man in the se or ss? You are too HOT!! I dnt know if this still obtains but I remember when i was in primary school in lagos in 1987, then all class 6 pupils had to write comon entrance to get placement into FEDERAL And STATE secondary schools it puzzled me then to find the the cut off mark for yoruba and Hausa where lower than that impossed on the iybos by at least 30points so even though we where in the same class and taught by the same teachers the SE where dissadvantagged from the word go. so mr iit should be the iybo that should be bitter not you.
You sound like a terrorist looking for somebody to fight just cos they dont flow in your fictional direction. In fact I put it to you that you are eighter and Hausaman or an extremist muslim .

You see the Igbo man again - they will never change...

honeric01: Everyone is related to eachother whether you like it or not, if you doubt me, check your family members and see if one or more aren't married to another tribe.

I agree with you but for the equation to be balanced, Igbos must also agree with you and relate accordingly (overly and covertly) with other tribes. Qouting an ex-president "if the dealth penalty must be scrapped, let the murderers take the first step".

honeric01: To hell with tribalism, please stop this "Igbo this", "Igbo that" if you need to quote me, division is doing more harm than good to this country!

I understand you and really appreciate but when will Igbos change? You need pay Igbos back in their own coin if you want them to change - lets play tribalism for tribalism and I tell you they will change their ways. We have appealed to them again and again that we need to work together, we need to reason together to build the country. Tell me if Igbos reasoning has changed a bit.

Lets isolate them and put them where they belong.

otele: It may interest you to know that I'm not a GEJ fan. Aight?
It may also interest you to know that I'm IGBO. And proudly so (your GEJ is ijaw, not Igbo. I don't give a damn but I prefer him to buhari bin laden )
But buhari is a symbol of Islamic extremism that is worse than PDP corruption. And for all the talk about national unity, boko haram is not unpopular in the extreme north. Those dudes, with Taliban Buhari as their leader, have sympathy for boko haram. This tacit local support is what makes boko haram thrive because it can never thrive if the locals are embittered by it. And they know them too.

Buhari, If he has sense, should start acting like an elder statesman and not politician. He should use his popularity with the murderers to call them to order. But he won't bc he's blood thirsty himself.
He would NEVER rule nigeria

You dont have to tell me - I know you are Igbo. It is only a Igbo that reason this way - I am not surprised. And GEJ is one of your own - the reason you all voted and rigged for him in 2011.

honeric01: Why are you running from the question? can you just answer it and stop disgracing educated people with silly posts.

Why should justice be denied because of this "The southern politicians are not as daring as their northern counterparts. The south of this country revere life and have a strong fear of God and respect"?

Now, tell me, what is the fear of God?
if there's anything like the fear of God in the south, why is Nigeria the way it is? with all the money in the south, why are people running abroad from the south than the north where there is no fear of God?

If there's fear of God, why do we have more criminals in the south than the north?
If there's fear of God in the south, why is the south not as "beautiful, advance like the developed world?
If there's fear of God in the south, why do we have people like you and the rest always twisting the truth just for a pot of pottage? the god you serve, is it a lie loving god or what?

Please, dont allow Igbos to lump us together. South West must be separated from South East and we must be specific when addressing the regions.

Igbos must be isolated!

Igbos must be isolated and put where they belong - south east bush. With this, we know who we are talking to - human beings or animals. Nobody should come here and say southerners - Igbos should not be counted with Yorubas.

otele: The post election violence was carried out by buhari supporters. Boko haram activity skyrocketed after the election of 2011. The pattern of violence( post election violence and boko haram violence) are the same, the victims are the same. It will be hard to convince me it's not the same people doing these killings. When arrested, their brothers in the military/police arrange their 'escape'.

These brood of vipers, in the name of religion of piss, bloodthirsty bastards, have buhari as their national hero. And he has refused or has been reluctant to use that fact to call them to order.
He's never going to be president.
NEVER!!!

Because the president who is also the C-in-C is a northerner - abi? You have your brother as the president of the country and you are here whining that some other people are the one controlling the government. How senseless can this be? Azazi that was eventually killed was also a norther or he was working for northerners when he said PDP members were the one behing Boko Haram. You wont learn until you become a direct victim of bad governance.

NRI PRIEST: You are very ignorant...Have you ever left your little sw shrine before??

I am still waiting for the pictures of your capital cities like Aba and that of the road leading to Ojukwu's house. Otherwise, I will post some pictures for you to see.

[quote author=honeric01][/quote]Why are you wasting your time on these villagers from the bush of south east? They are a lost race, they wont hear.

honeric01: You keep trying to rope in Buhari with the boko haram menace and the violence, yet most of the people known to be associated with these violence are from the ruling party and friends of the president, you people keep trying to twist the untwistable truth.

If they have anything on Buhari concerning Boko haram and other violence, he should be made to face the law, if not, they should all hide their heads in shame including you beer parlor rumor monger.

Unfortunately that is the life story of a Igbo man - they can't do better.

Takara: @Sincere9gerian . I dont think you are sincere! In your ealier post you accused Buhari of sectionalism for awarding the contract for Kaduna Refinery, when somebody pointed out that Buhari actually initiated two refineries- warri and kaduna, you now did an about turn that Buhari did not initiate the kaduna refinery afterall!

You are not sincere

That is a Igbo man for you... They can't do better.

calaway: From the get go Buhari apologist have been looking for and creating reasons to blame the ineptitude of GEJ. Dnt get me wrong GEJ is focusing on the smaller picture of National unity nd treading carefully cos he should have also arrested Croma,Atku,Samb..o and emir f Kano the Sul.tan of Sokot for hving links with the islamist Boko pigs.
GEJ is not the problem the problem is people like Buhari read this....> "Day Lam Adesina clashed with Buhari, Marwa, others

It was on 13 October 2000, when words went round that General Muhammadu Buhari was leading the Arewa team to the governor’s office to confront the state over alleged killings of Fulani cattle rearers in Saki, Oke Ogun Area of the state. Buhari did actually telephone the governor that he was leading a team to his office.

In less than 30 minutes after the general informed the governor of his visit, we noticed that the entire secretariat was already filled with lorry loads of our brothers from the North. This created some tension but we kept our calm. At about 2 p.m., Buhari arrived in a long convoy at the governor’s office in company of the former governor of Lagos State, General Buba Marwa, Alhaji Aliko Muhammed, Alhaji Abdulrazak and Alhaji Hassan. They all wore long faces. In fact, the anger in them was palpable as all pleasantries extended to them were ignored. “This is trouble” was the expression on the faces of all of us in the governor’s office.

Shortly afterwards, the state Director of State Security Service (SSS) and Commissioner of Police arrived. But their presence did not change anything particular on the fears that had already gripped majority of us. The two security chiefs did not come with any operatives, they came almost alone.

The meeting was called to order after Lam walked into the Executive Chambers. Introductions over, Buhari spoke on their mission to the governor’s office. Emitting fire, the general accused Lam and the government of Oyo State of complicity in the killing of over 68 Fulani people in Oke Ogun area and perversion of justice.

His words: “Your Excellency, our visit here is to discuss with you and your government our displeasure about the incident of clashes between two peoples… the Fulani cattle rearers and merchants are today being harassed , attacked and killed like in Saki. In the month of May, 2000, 68 bodies of Fulani cattle rearers were recovered and buried under the supervision and protection from a team of Mobile Police from Oyo State Command.

“ That some arrests were made by Oyo State Police Command in the massacre with their immediate release without court trial. This was said to have been ordered by Oyo State authorities and they were so released to their amazement. The release of the arrested suspects gave the clear impression that the authorities are backing and protecting them to continue the unjust and illegal killings of Fulani cattle rearers…”

According to the general, they therefore wanted immediate stoppage of the killings, justice and compensation to the Fulanis.

As weighty and indicting as Buhari’s allegations were, Lam remained unperturbed. He fired back with his own well coordinated arsenals.

Lam identified all the points raised by Buhari and simply asked the heads of the organizations directly involved to respond to the allegations.

First to speak was the Commissioner of Police who debunked all the claims. Instead of the allegation that the natives were killing Fulanis, the commissioner said pointedly that the opposite was the case.

“ The killing of the natives by the Fulanis was duly reported to the police and, of course, we can’t make arrest because, as soon as they kill, they migrate to other areas. Who are you going to arrest? That is the problem”. On the killing of Fulanis, which he said was as result of “piled up anger”, the commissioner disclosed that arrests had been made and the suspects were in police custody.

Next was the Director of SSS, who equally debuked the allegations by Buhari. “The natives don’t have problem with the Fulanis who are resident but those who are coming in, they don’t care about anybody. They just go ahead and when they graze the natives farms, whoever cares to challenge them runs into trouble. You said 68 people were killed , and people driven away. I am not saying there were no killings but they cannot be more than five. The petition is on the harsh side, there is nothing like that.”

Not done yet, Lam called in his Deputy, Barrister Iyiola Oladokun; his SSG, Chief Michael Koleoso, both from Oke Ogun, and the chairman of one of the affected local government areas, Mr Ademola Alalade. They stated the true position of things, corroborating the submissions of the security chiefs. At this point, all the tensions and apprehensions evaporated.

Trust Lam any day, he must rub it in. He spoke for about 20 minutes and the generals were at the edge of their seats for the entire period. They were like chicken that had just been thoroughly beaten by the rain.

Lam said: “ Before I thank you for this visit, you have come to tell me something. I also want to tell you something and that something is to make an appeal. General Buhari has been a former Head of State, Brigadier Marwa has governed Lagos for some time and with credibility… so you are national leaders of this country. Even though, by accident of birth, you are from the North, you can be born anywhere; may be next time when I am coming to the world, I will be born in the North or the South-South.

“My appeal will be that effort must be made to unite this country and that will be ïn the best interest of all Nigerians. I am appealing to the Arewa Consultative Forum, under which auspices our distinguished Nigerians are here; in recent times, they have been sending wrong signals to a number of us who believe in the unity and peace of Nigeria; you have been too critical of the efforts of the Federal Government. I am saying this because Nigeria, at this point, cannot afford to break and the words you northern leaders utter are very weighty, at the South here, we normally analyze them critically”.

On all the allegations, he said: “From what they have written in the petition, this government is completely blameless because we don’t interfere either with the judiciary or with the police functions. I always preach peaceful co-existence in Oyo State and Nigeria as a whole. We are all Nigerians and that is what we have been preaching all along and we shall continue to be Nigerians , no matter the present or immediate problems which will be solved by the grace of Allah.

“I want to say also that we really have to appeal to our people, the itinerant Bororo people, that they should observe less aggression. It is not good , it is not right just coming from somewhere then you just pass through farm lands cultivated may be with the person’s life savings and then over night everything is gone. That is not right, even Allah does not approve of that.

We even wonder when they talk about this people carrying dangerous weapons, I say do they really believe in Allah? When you just take life like that and go away! Are we not forbidden not to take human life? So I think General Buhari, General Marwa, you have to be educating them… It is my pleasure to inform you that at the Presidential Lodge, we have made some arrangements for refreshments so that before you go we can refresh together”.

Buhari and his team did not wait for any refreshments. They came in angry and left bewildered. ADIEU! GREAT LAM!
*OLAOSEBIKAN, WAS CHIEF PRESS SECRETARY TO ALHAJI LAM ADESINA

Vanguard."

Shut the Bleep up - Igbos can't incite the Yorubas against Hausa/Buhari. We are more civilized than that and can't be controlled by villagers from South East. Gej has demonstrated his Ineptitude for the whole world to see and also showed us his hopeless corrupt mind by refusing to delare his asset and lately by appointing Anenih has the chair of NPA. What can be more pathetic than this?

Sincere 9gerian: FACTS ARE SACRED.
Buhari told us he signed the contract for building of Warri and Kaduna refineries. Very good. But he never told us that he was appointed by OBJ and effectively executing the VISION of OBJ.
Buhari was appointed federal commissioner of petroleum resources by OBJ in 1976, a position he held till 1979 when OBJ handed over. Construction of the Warri and Kaduna refinery were commenced by OBJ administration. Buhari and other civil servants only had to put pen to paper and execute the wishes of the head of state. The Warri refinery was completed speedily by the same OBJ administration in1978. The first phase of Kaduna refinery was completed by Shagari in 1980(who was the oil minister then?). Perhaps the Warri refinery made more sense to OBJ necessitating its speedy completion under his regime.
Giving Buhari credit for refineries built by OBJ is like given Dieziani credit for whatever is achieved in the petroluem sector under the GEJ administration. That cannot be right in my opinion. We know too well that any project not supported by the head of state or president is dead on arrival.
The CORRECT history of all our existing refineries are as follows:
1) Port harcourt refinery 1 was built by Shell/BP in 1965.
2) Port harcourt refinery 2 was commissioned in 1989 (where was Buhari then?)
3) Warri refinery was commissioned in 1978 (the only refinery commissioned while Buhari was commissioner but the work on it started far before Buhari came on board).
4) Kaduna refinery 1st phase was commissioned in 1980( Buhari was not in charge then)
5)Kaduna refinery 2nd phase was commissioned in 1982 ( Buhari was not in charge then)
FACTS ARE SACRED!!
http://www.nnpcgroup.com/nnpcbusiness/subsidiaries/wrpc.aspx
http://www.mbendi.com/indy/oilg/ogrf/af/ng/p0005.htm

What trash is this man talking - he said he signed the contract and you are talking about commissioning. Which comes first or are you saying the person that signs contract must be the one to commission it? Even if he leaves government before the project is completed. Hatred has blocked your senses.

Ikwere fist son: my hapines is dat dia is no state in d sw dat is more developd dan d east.dnt mention lagos.nd cm 2 tnk of it who re u gulible yarabas yash lickers 2 decide d fath of ibos politikaly,u pepl re bunch of opurtunist bt una cup dn full.mind u u yarabas re d fadas of tribalism wit d help of ur criminal of a fada awo ole.hypocretes

Do you know southwest at all? You want to take Lagos out of southwest? Good thinking from an SE villager.

Now tell me, apart of Enugun town, show me other cities in the East than compares with Abeokuta, Ibadan, Oshogbo, etc and of course the road networks that link the states together. Show me now. And show me two other towns in Enugu state - state development is not about state capital.

Aba is your capacital city, show me pictures of the town including the road leading to Ojukwu's house.

khairate: Take a look at south west nd some states in south south for instance. Any wonder y this states wil continue to grow frm heights to heights?? Is simple! Wen it comes to politics nd electing a leader, they toss religious and tribal sentiments aside. So if kaduna state governor is a muslim, the muslims shld careless hw he manages d affairs of d state? Is absurd, absolutely! Gov. Adams, d edo state gov. Was massively voted into govt. by the bini pple even wen the opposition was a bini man. He was voted in by both muslims nd xtians alik, based on performance nd they knew he could represent their interest. Nw dts d beauty of democracy, shun religious bigotry nd embrace peace.

Igbos dont think like this and I have lost hope in them.

byrron: you dont need to insult anyone that has a contrary opinion to urs.
all u ve to do is state your facts to back up ur claim just the way im gonna do with u right nw.
if u are a xtian then read up colosians 1:15-17. there, u will find out that christ participated actively in creating things both in heaven and on earth but if you are not a xtian then this conversation wont make any meanings to you cos ur views obviously will differ from mine.
PEACE

Say whatever suits your whims and also show us in your bible where jesus himself said "I created you and everything here on earth". Interesting... The creator been crusified/murdered by the people he created... About 2000 years now that Jesus was crusified/murdered by the people he created and life still continues. Can you see your reasoning...

REVOLUTNIS: It is not a trash but undisputed fact. i think u should educate urself by checking Nigeria history and the cause behind the past and present conflicts. talking of Senegal, everyone knows that the election was rigged outside bn rigged, the Senegalese are not knwn to be adherence to their religion like Nigerians. there are not lazy religious zombies in Nigeria. there are only zero per cent of freethinkers like u in Nigeria. Nigerians put their religion as first priority in their daily lives, Muslims respects and bow to their Allah and takes the instruction and teachings of their Imams and clergy SERIOUSLY. The teachings of Koran forms the basis of their lives and u can't change that. who rules them is very important because it is forbidden in the Koran for an infidel to rule a Muslim. sultan of sokoto couldn't visit kaduna state becuase an infidel was in power. It was a tabu and forbidden for the sultan who is the head and the father of Mullins in Nigeria to visit late gov. Yakuwa in the govt house. Christians takes the teachings of their Holy Bible serious and live their lives on it. Majority of Christians who voted Mr. Jonathan did so mostly because is a christian. And it is not only does such sentiment exist, in America question of Obama's religion rose up and he had to made it clear that though his middle name is Hassan he is a christian. president W. Bush cleared that he is a born again Christin and that is proud of that. Nigerians can't do without their religion no matter what

That is why Nigeria is not moving forward - everything na wash. Tell me, if Nigerians are so passionate about their religion and always take their religious teachings SERIOUSLY, are you saying it is part of their religious teachings to loot treasury, assasinate opponents, cheat customers, sale fake things as original, kidnap people for money, go into 419, go into hard drug, aldutery, etc...

anonimi: I bin post this before spambot abi na mod come hide am. Hope no more hiding of this one.
Buhari's agents are seriously doing image laundering for their patron whose hatred for Southerners is legendary. Na to do eye service for Southerners when it comes to seeking their votes. He has no qualms killing them in cold blood as he did in the July 1966 counter coup or inflaming the passions of almajiris against them when he loses election.
The champion of Fulani interests almost caused another civil war in Ibadan some years ago:



Fulani with his born-to-rule mentality!!!

Stop that trash... Did we South Westerners(the largest ethnic group in the south) tell you we have any issue with Buhari? Don't lump Yorubas with Igbos, we are not the same and we dont think like villagers from South East. I dont know what you meant by Southerners...

Soskid: Most of u do not have d time 2 go thru it, yet u wil have d time to hurl insults at the General... Anyway, he laid emphasis on investigative journalism which most of u lack.

How will lazy people do investigative journalism? You can see laziness everywhere you turn and the same people will say they are poor. That is why we have scammers here and there... and lazy religious zombies always waiting for miracles.

bojar: You are a Product of a Cursed marriage..its only Poverty and Ignorance that can push you to make such inciteful comment...

Poverty or what do you call it? I pity you... And what is inciteful about saying the truth about Igbos? Inciting who against who? Or Igbos want fight Yorubas?

PosCaricature :
I can only say that what Gen. Buhari is suffering is the law of camal. Anyway, may God help him.

What do you mean by law of camal? Or you meant law of karma? Interesting... how do we educate these illiterates that fill everywhere in Nigeria.

And by the way, if what you mean is law of karma, can you explain the Buhari suffering that you called law of Karma?

Was the pastor bulldozed with the structure or he ran for his life? Why didnt he call his prayers worriors to stop the bulldozer? Afterall there is noting holy ghost power can't do.

otokx: why was nothing said about PTF?

Of course PTF tops his achivements - no need to talk about that because the essence of the interview was to clear some points that Igbos wrongly without using heads hold against the honest man.

REVOLUTNIS: If it where against the interest of Islam u wouldn't have talk like u did. it would have been something else. Muslims are good in saying things contrary to their real thought and nature.

What do you mean mr man? Most of the times, muslims dont have anything against xtians - xtians are the ones who hate muslims and always want to show relevance/wants to be heard. Nothing political can be against muslims and should be against xtains if you are thinking right - as long as you are not prevented by politicians from worshipping the way you chose to.

REVOLUTNIS: Religion plays a major rule in the leadership of Nigerian, u can't dispute that its a known fact.

Stop that trash, it is only in Nigeria populated with lazy religious zombies and scammers where that exists. Let me educate you a bit, in Senegal, a christian was voted in as president. How was that possible if religion must be considered in a country of about 95% muslims?

qualified: I noticed something on this thread. Most of all pretending not to care about d man's religion are doing so out of bitterness and are all Muslims who invariably are not happy a Christian is in power. Why are they always power-drunk? (imagine, celebrating someone 's death cos of his religion) wickedness!
No pretence, 'two Muslims' is not a good thing for Kaduna State.
Osunoriginal, quote me and make ur fanatic statements. SADISTIC RELIGIOUS PEOPLE

Continue to display your lunacy. I am muslim of course but wait a minute, are we discussing religion here or politics? We will continue to educate you on what governance is all about. It has got nothing to do with religion and the issue of the religion of the person in power should not come at all. Do I care if Yaro is a muslim, of course no. What I care about is how he leads. But Xtians wants relevance and want to show their presence - the reason we have all these problems including the BH issue. Like a saying goes "minority makes the loudest shout" - this is true and we can all see it.
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In South West here, we chased Oyinlola (Osun) and Alao Akala (Oyo) out of power, not because they are xtians but for non performance and their hopelessly corrupt ways. In these two state, muslims are in the majority but did any muslim cry or shout that the govs are xtians? It is a pity that you guys are like this - very pathetic.

khattab008: Interesting Interview Dumb people will still doubt the credibility of this Man

Igbos will never agree with you - they are cursed and always stick to their destruction path.

ogb5: everybody is giving interviews these days.

Some questions I would have loved him to answer.

Why did he allow so many people to get un-employed by banning the importation of almost all raw materials used by indutries. He commenced the killing of Nigeria's industralisation by that action. Almost 30yrs after, many of the affected industirs are still dead.

Why did he turn PTF into an arewa organisation. The oputa panel documented the abuse effectively. Our commonwealth as a nation was single handedly used by him to develop a few section of the north at the expense of the whole country.

and why the hell did he not campaign in the south all these time he has been running for president. Is it because as far as he is concern, the North is the lord amd master of the country? and as such the south does not count?


Why did he, a northerner take another notherner as his 2nd in command when he was head of state.
Why did he a muslim, take another moslem as his 2nd in command when he was head of state.

why was shagari a northern president put under house arrest while ekwueme, a southern vice president sent to kirikiri maximum prison?
All these issue point to one fact: Buhari does not believe in the equality of states in Nigeria. To him Northerners are more of a concern to him, the rest does not matter

Then go and learn how those good countries you want to run to started. Use your head for a moment, tell me the number of jobs Nigeria has lost from the closure of textile industries? Do you know what kill those industries? Do you ever know the number of jobs Nigeria will create if we have local industries making most of the things that we import? Today, we even import toothpick. Do you know the number of jobs we would create and where Nigeria would be in terms of self reliance if we look inward rather than our lazy quick cash approach to life?

Why, why, why do we have Igbos in this country? Why didn't Gowon allow them to go?

enigma_otr: It's high time we Christians realised the real savior was not born this time of the year. The messiah's name is not Jesus and the name of the Almight Creator isn't God or Lord or Jehovah. Wonder why we call on the wrong person in prayers and consequently prayers are not answered. It's by mercy that some of our prayers are answered. Call upon me-YAHUWEH-and i'll answer you. Whatever you ask in my name-YAHUSHUA-that i'll do.

See xtianity and controversy...

enigma_otr: Did HE have to say that before you know? Read John 1：1-6 and you'll know nothing was created without HIM.

I am sorry for you guys... If there is hell fire, most of you will have your space reserved in the hotest part of it for writing and swisting statements to suit your whims.