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analice107:
Hahahahahahahaha. Wow. He is still saying it.

Anas09:
U don start ba? U never learn.
That Moniker doesn't belong to him. Just like one muslim here impersonated him, thats how that FL guy also impersonated.guy u dull oo. Chai.

analice107:
Guy, you dull. W-O-N-D-E-R-F-O-O-L
"MEN OF THIEVES". Who do you this thing?

VolTOxic:
I hate Religion too.
But I believe there's a creator aka GOD.
I like to believe He doesn't meddle with our affairs.

blacksahara:
For years I've been contemplating the God issue vis a vis heaven, hell and the likes. But today I made the big step and now I'm an atheist. Do I feel peace within me? Nope, because I dread the moment it'll come out. Do I feel I've made the right choice? Tbh, I can't say for now. But I believe time will tell and prove me right.

I know Christians alongside muslims will look to insult me, or convince me to change my mind. Please save it and respect my decision
Just the same way I've decoded that I won't attack or insult any believer of faith. Everybody has the right to pick their choice.

I was born into a strong Christian home but I don't feel God. If there is, then I think He's unfair and I'm not down for that.

I don't know how to break it to my folks. I know y friends will take it as it is even tho they'll resent me for it.

My relationship? I can kiss it goodbye, cos my girl will break it off with me the moment I tell her. I don't want to lose her neither do I want to keep a secret from her and mislead her.

My family? My parents will probably disown me. My siblings may leave me and respect my decision, but I know my parents especially my mom will not.

To the atheists in the house, how did u come out? How do u handle the stigmatisation? I know my chances of having a relationship is next to zero.

I need advise because sooner or later I have to cone out.

eph12:
And is that a problem? No! Your God is the true God? Fine! My God is the true God? Fine. Both fine by me. It's not my headache. It's not my business trying to prove mine is the true God or yours is. It shouldn't be a big deal really.

cloudgoddess:
I often see the argument posed by theists, and some atheists, that humanity somehow requires religion to keep from imploding on itself, and taking away religion would lead to widespread chaos and eventually doomsday.

I tend to strongly disagree.

This is a list of ways I think humanity could very likely be better off without religion now (specifically the Abrahamic religions and others with similar doctrines), supported by evidence I've come across.

Without religion:
1. Humanity could get along better. Tribalism is the blanket term to describe the innate human tendency to form alliances and groups against one another. More and more research is showing that tribalism can be overcome, and peace amongst people of different groups can be achieved, the more people are able to see a like-ness in one another. A "you are human just like me, I accept you, I feel comfortable around you".

Religion is a direct obstacle to achieving this like-ness, and it shouldn't be hard to imagine why. Religion teaches millions of people, usually via childhood indoctrination (brainwashing), that because the so-called "creator of the entire universe" said so, they are better, more "holy", more valuable, more moral than other groups of people. This is a perfect recipe for unnecessary tribalistic tendencies. And we see this type of religious tribalism unfolding all over the world, often violently.

Don't get me wrong, tribalism can and does exist in many other forms (racism, imperialism, even people with different tastes in music can form alliances based on that). But what sets religion apart is the fact that it rests upon a firm foundation of fear (of hell), and shielded from criticism in a way other forms of tribalism aren't, making it much harder to overcome.

2. Humanity could better understand the world & universe around us. Since the dawn of scientific & empirical thought, religion has been in direct opposition to a vast amount of scientific progress. No honest person can deny this. When Galileo discovered the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around, the church wanted him killed because it contradicted the picture the gospels painted of our place in the world. The same goes for the anti-evolution nonsense that still goes on today. People are actively against the foundational theory uniting all biology, for no other reason than that it contradicts the religion they were taught.

Religious indoctrination installs cognitive biases in peoples' minds, causing strong feelings of resistance, anger, hostility and paranoia once they are confronted with certain scientific (& sometimes philosophical) topics that call into question the religious worldview they were indoctrinated with. The anti-intellectual, anti-science mindset that religion births is causing billions of people across the globe to remain centuries behind on a huge chunk of human knowledge. Thus, impeding the scientific & intellectual progress of humanity as a whole.

According to surveys, the countries with the lowest populations of religious people have the highest rates of quality education. It's not always accurate to imply causation from correlation, and the relationship might flow both ways, but it's quite obvious that the more religious someone is, the more unwelcoming of science they're likely to be.

3. Humanity could understand ourselves better. It is true that humans have innate biological insticts that drive much of our behavior. These insticts, as science continues to find, aren't magical but evolved. They helped our species survive, just like every other animals' insticts help it survive. Rather than helping us understand and best navigate our human instincts (like our emotional reactions & sexuality), religion demonizes and mystifies them. It manufactures a ridiculous amount of shame around simply being human.

Religion also, in it's ignorance, has stamped mental disorders with labels like "spiritual invasion" or "demonic posession". Instead of people getting the psychiatric help they need, people are sent to exorcists and other phony religious leaders for "deliverance". Not only does this put lives & minds in danger, but it generates an unnecessary sense of fear and panic around treatable medical conditions, causing people to fundamentally misunderstand their own mental health.

4. Humanity could be more proactive & prosperous. Rather than relying on prayer, which is essentially talking to yourself, people could be more likely to take action towards solving their problems if religion were not a factor in their lives. Again, we see that the most prospering and forward-moving countries have smaller percentages of people who think religiously. Because their societies are based in reason and evidence-based thinking, they are quicker to find workable solutions to economic, political, health, and other issues. Much of the law in the developed world is based on our current understanding of these issues according to research. NOT religious books, which were written by people 2,000 years ago who were quite ignorant in these areas.

5. Humanity could be happier. The biggest reason of all that people give for why people need religion, is that it gives them comfort and hope. When going through a rough time, praying helps people cope. When someone dies, the promise that you'll see them again is soothing. Although I don't deny that religion can serve as an emotional bandaid, or even a vessel for truly healing practices (ex. "giving your troubles up to god" could have the same cognitive effect as "accepting what you can't control and doing your best" ), it is NOT, imo, the only way, let alone the best way, for us to achieve happiness and peace.

As I've mentioned in previous posts, the areas of Neuroscience and Psychology are making some incredible discoveries as of late, uncovering long-awaited answers to our mysterious psyches and how to navigate them. Recent studies show that happiness, contentment, and compassion for onesself and others can be learned & practiced as skills; healing from grief, sorrow, and trauma can be achieved through evidence based psychiatric techniques (including self-directed therapies); and life's obstacles can be surmounted by tapping into proven resources (like a nurturing social environment).

In other words, very good answers to how to be happier, how to get over struggles, how to find peace, are out there. In this day and age, the internet, libraries and bookstores are swarming with this information. With some research into these resources, it should become clear that religion has outlived it's usefulness in this area as well.

So, to conclude, I think that humanity could not only survive without organized religion like the Abrahamic faiths, we could thrive. The children who are raised without the religion across the globe, in areas like the Netherlands, Japan, the Czech Republic, and Iceland, yet become healthy, happy, and functioning members of their societies, are evidence of this. At this point I feel like humanity is clutching on to religion like a child to it's stuffed animal. We don't need it anymore, we just think we do.

rhektor:
1) "Before the arrival of religion to our country "

This is not altogether true, because region is part of our culture as African, I don't know what country you are talking about, if you say before Islam and Christianity then you may be correct but to say before religion arrive our country is a fallacy. As our forefathers are in their own ways very religious.


2)"Obey morally good laws made by the government" maybe you have forgotten that is also the extension I talked about the other time, aren't those that made up the government part of the society? Aren't they human like you? what distinguished them from the south called religious leaders? government give certain moral laws so do religious leaders. It's all BS. if we are to judge by personal convictions then the whole places will be in turmoil, chaos will be everywhere, it will solely be survival of the fitest. Hence the need for agreement between people as to what should be acceptable what shouldn't, that is why laws are needed. religion will play its part and moral codes it's part

KingEbukasBlog:
Dude , truthman83 , I give you just two weeks and you'll return to Christ .


Peace

lordnicklaus:
I wanna get something straight here. Are you a Pantheist (Spinozist) or a Deist. And if Domino Reverad doesn't interfere in the affairs of mankind but has left everything to the workings of nature, why does he reveal himself to you.

Jacksonville:
It's their way of practising holiness for pete's sake, which is most likely wrong or too extreme... Don't be judgemental , cuz wen you point fingers, remember the rest are pointing at you...

You dat u're a man of ''eartum'', are you perfect now? Or you're most well behaved. What are you trying to prove? Get over it damn it

Jacksonville:
@otemanuduno ..but this pastor went too far..i mean by flogging his church members...

That's so weird and inhuman.. This questions his call as a man of GOD. ''By their fruit you shall know them''


So, he is not of GOD.

Jacksonville:
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Jacksonville:
Tell that to the birds or ur greek gods like loki, and d rest.

keandre:
Just saw the sms, sim was switched off on Monday, thanks.

Pureheart91:
B4 jumpin into conclusions about a very crucial mater, why dont u tke time 2 dig up euf evidence, cos u using the doctrine of one man to judge anoda man.. Truth be told, many GO's myt have devaited from d laid down doctrine of Jesus in d bible to suit dier belief and way of life, but you dont have to apply a deductive reasonin whereby because Many are doin so,den all are doin so...by d way u dont judge from d state of wealth of one to anoda, because weda u like it or not both d poor n rich were created by God and dere wud be many poor pple on earth compared to d rich dahs d balance of Nature.

So plss i beg u, be careful of wat u Utter cos it wud judge u latter.

Jacksonville:
you are the deluded soul and the hypnotised one here.


Keep blaspheming, while they keep spreading the gospel(goodnews) to the world. If they are to remain poor, how will they reach out to nations and share the gospel?, how will they help the needy?.. Where were you when they had nothing?..you mean men of GOD should be poor or what?... Smh!!!


You're too dumb to realise all these because of your anti-christ nature.... Keep living the life of deception....You're in a state of confusion filled with conspiracy theories 'nd doctrines, you can't even help yourself, or reach out to people...


But brethren, lemme get this to your notice! This is the worst you can do, because GOD had already told us about people like you. Everything you say is DOA, so try again nextime or somewhere else. Better still, get a life ..

udatso:
That is a different truthman sir.

keandre:
Otemanuduno, still expecting the dough.

udatso:
THIS A SERIOUS MATTER OOOOO ( In Ajiboye007'S voice )

Fellow religionlanders, this is to draw our attention to the absence of a very vibrant poster in this section Mr truthman2012. Truthman has been unnaturally absent for no less than seven days.
If I had his contact, I would try to know what's going on.
Whatever it is I pray he is good cos I still believe that there is hope for him to see the light in Islam.
I would like to use this medium to appeal to his friends and other nairalnders (especially those that know him on a personal level) to check on him.
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inice:
Pls respect God's generals to avoid a curse on your skin.

rhektor:
As you know there's nothing like a closed system it's either you are influenced by your environment or the environment influence you,that's the extension. another point you haven’t responded to is that what will be your definition of good and bad?
Thank you

Femolacaster:
Correct yourself, you are using "band" for "ban''.
About the miracles, i can tell you that Pastor Kumuyi is not performing fake miracles, i have witnessed 3 of his crusade live, the last one in Enugu last year. I have seen lunatics with chains being healed, and several others.

rhektor:
What would be your standard of right and wrong? You still tend to create laws for yourself which so many has created for themselves and by extension people around them