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Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 1:34pm On Jun 22, 2019
jesusjnr:
Good afternoon otem.

There are only two possible legit voters this case(tribunal) not one, but one did not come, so except you are able to summon him to help you out, so that you can have the majority vote you so crave, you are tied by my generosity. grin

Btw just i had told you look at the response of one of your inconsequential voters, that called me dumb..., to the difference that God had used me to make in your expression.



So be careful about such kind of people that endorse mediocrity, for they don't wish you well.

For they would not humble themselves so that God can use them as He uses jesusjnr, but when God uses jesusjnr, they'd start calling him thief for allowing God use him to this extent.

But of course as the saying goes "wisdom is justified of her children.
LordReed supported me first. You called for a VAR. In Fifa rule, it is wrong for a player to call for a VAR. If it were in football, you would have been penalised for calling for a VAR. In the end, the VAR was inconclusive. Then came my own VAR personnels, they all gave it to me, so I WIN! cheesy
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 10:00am On Jun 22, 2019
CHAPTER FIVE
1. Now when Abdullah the son of Saad became the governor of Egypt and Mohammed the son of Hudhaifa became his helper, Egypt was well under the control of Uthman, who was the caliph of Medina.
2. In those days, Uthman declared wars on many lands and the forces of Egypt assisted him in fighting the war of religion. So Islam continued to spread into many lands through wars and violence.
3. Now a man named Yasmun arose and said, what kind of religion is this? It has killed many innocent souls and has brought up war instead of peace. If this religion is not put under control at this time, it shall eat deep into the future of the world.
4. Then shall terrorists be bred in all lands of the world and commotion shall continue in the world forever. Why do you fight for your god whom you call Allah? Shall a human fight for that which seems greater than him?
5. Only helpless gods and idols need people to fight for them to be able to establish them in the minds of the people of the world.
6. Now when Uthman heard the confession of Yasmun of Fars, he said to his armies, go and bring that blasphemer to me. Then shall I do to him what prophet Mohammed commanded. So Yasmun was brought before Uthman.
7. Then he said, how do you have the mind to utter all these words against Islam? You shall be put to death and your land shall be completely ruined.
8. Now Yasmun said, why do you want to ruin my land because I speak the truth? Have we not had several religions in Fars before? But none of them killed us to gain our hearts and our land. Rather, they persuaded us to do their religion.
9. Was Zoroaster not a founder of religion? Yet he did not go to other lands to kill them and convert them to Zoroastrianism. Why then do you muslims force your religion upon us and kill us for it?
10. Should we worship your god by the use of force? May the good spirits forbid that I, Yasmun, the son of Baha, should worship a god which is forced on my head.
11. Now when Uthman saw the fearlessness of Yasmun, he said, how are you not afraid to speak before me? What is your trust? Who do you depend on?
12. And Yasmun said, I depend on nature. I do not fear death nor life. I was not afraid to be born into Fars at birth, so shall I not be afraid to die and be found anywhere nature has chosen for me to be, if there is any life after death at all.
13. Now Uthman got angry and said to his soldiers, behead him and bring me his head. So the head of Yasmun was ripped off him and given to Uthman. And Uthman hanged the head on a pole.
14. Now Uthman commanded in anger that the land of Fars should be completely suppresed. So the armies of Medina and the Egyptians went after Fars and conquered it, converting every soul there to Islam.
15. Now Abdullah the son of Saad began to rule over Egypt and he set up a diwan in Egypt. Now Abdallah said to the people, bring your taxes and all levies to the diwan. Now when Abdallah had collected much money, he did not want to do account before Mohammed concerning how the money were spent. For he gave half of the money realised in Egypt to Uthman who brought him into the governorship position.
16. And when Mohammed his assistant asked him, saying, leader, how are the revenues spent? Abdallah said, will you keep quiet concerning this matter, son of Hudhaifa? Now Mohammed was sad. Then he began to detest Abdallah.
17. Then he went behind him to make friendship with the Copts who hated the rule of Abdallah from the beginning. And he secretly instigated the Copts against Abdallah. And they protested, saying, we need another governor. For this one is not capable. He has diverted all the resources of Egypt to his own household alone.
18. Now Abdallah said, if I destroy these Copts who are Christians, the people shall see it as a fight against the Christians. And we know how many external support these Copts receive from other lands who are Christians.
19. At the moment, the Christians are more than us in number worldwide, therefore I shall not have any face off with these devilish Coptic people. But I shall summon their leaders to my court and bribe them.
20. So the leaders of the Egyptian churches were called into the court of the governor and he bribed them all with much gifts. And he said to them, I count on you to speak to your people in the churches.
21. Speak to them concerning me. Tell them that I am he whom their god have chosen to be the governor, only let them pray for me rather than complaining.
22. So the Coptic church leaders who have received bribe from Abdallah went to their churches and began to speak good of Abdallah. And they said to their members, let no one speak against the government henceforth.
23. For you shall bring curses upon your own heads if you do so. Abdallah the son of Saad is not a bad man, rather he tries hard to bring strength and development to his land. Go and see how the armies at battle are being helped greatly.
24. On land and also upon the waters. Go and see how Abdallah is working hard, day and night to make Egypt prosper in the matter of trade. Do you fear that he shall islamize Egypt? Put your mind at rest, because Abdallah is not ready to do such things.
25. Now most of the Copts changed from being a critic of Abdallah to being his supporters. And they said to themselves, our god have chosen him, so let us not fight against the choice of our god.
26. Now in those days, there was a great famine among the Copts, in the places where they dwelt. Then the Christian leaders said to their members, this famine is brought upon us by our god because of our unfair treatment of the governor in the past.
27. Now let a week long fasting be declared in the land, then shall the wrath of god be turned away from us. So the people fasted for seven days. However, the famine did not subside, therefore many of the Copts migrated towards the sides of the Nile River.
28. Then Mohammed the son of Hudhaifa lost supporters and he began to get angry, gathering few people to make protests against the manner which Abdullah was ruling the land.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 9:32am On Jun 22, 2019
solite3:
Madman,

Those demons are deceiving you.

Only the mention of the name of Jesus will send your god almighty running with his tails in between his legs like the coward he is.

For so many years now you have been the only one shouting yahweh is in prison while the church of the yahweh is increasing by the day, His powers is seen every day is the true God Almighty while your god who is nowhere to be found.

Many had said worst things about God, Jesus and Christianity but where are they today?

You better seek for forgiveness from yahweh before it is too late
God Almighty, the creator of Yahweh your god is not a creature with tails. God Almighty is the totality of EXISTENCE. Without God Almighty, there cannot exist your god Yahweh.

You make me laugh when you say that the name of fictitious Jesus will make God Almighty run. Doesn't it sound funny?
You said that the church is increasing, but you didn't know that it's people like myself that are filling your churches up. Many irreligious people and atheists attend churches, don't you know. We see it as a social function. We want to amuse ourselves, we want to see Kenny Blaq and other comedians in churches. We also follow our girlfriends there. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 8:35am On Jun 22, 2019
jesusjnr:
You're unwittingly agreeing that it's a tie, because that's the only legitimate voter, and "majority of legitimate voters carries the vote"! grin

You can find something to console your inconsequential voters for their support, for the verdict of supporting cast even they be lawyers are inconsequential for only the verdict of the tribunal matter.

So the case is hence rested!

So long otem!
Why do you call one person alone a legitimate voter? They are all legit joor. Good morning.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 4:50am On Jun 22, 2019
Afospecialk:
Why ur god was robed with a great glory ?
And what's ur god relationship with Pharaoh ?
I Otem am the one robed with the great glory. I was sent to the world by all the gods of science. Isn't that a great GLORY in itself?
I don't have any relationship with Pharaoh.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cornelius Got God's Attention Despite Not Being Jew nor "Christian" by OtemAtum: 2:56am On Jun 22, 2019
Is God Almighty a Jew? Do the Jews have monopoly to God Almighty?

For you to be thinking of God Almighty, the creator of the universe as a Jewophile makes it obvious that it is not God Almighty you are talking about, rather it is one of the creatures of God Almighty, in this case Yahweh who happen to be the Jewish god. But currently he is in a spiritual cage as the rest of the gods of religion. Read the book of Otem Erectus 226:1- the end for details.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 2:46am On Jun 22, 2019
Afospecialk:
And thats how they continue to kill till the billions population started to believe in the killings and there were no other terrorists in the universe that can conquer them till today and all the countries across the world that practices Islam see the beauty of the killings and accepted Allah as the superior god of killings ?


And Satan that you are following couldn't prepare his own terrorist just to defeat the Mohammed movement ?

And Mohamed started to hav supporters all around the world just for killing ?

Dont yu think you need deliverance from the spirit that is leading yu to hell fire just like Pharaoh was misled by same spirit ?

Go and read about king Pharaoh of Egypt, his believe about Allah and how Allah handled him

No matter how terrible the spirit in yu its certain yu cant match Pharaoh your master who also claimed that there is no Allah
The world has evolved in their brains beyond killing and Bloodshedding, only Islam hasn't grown beyond that, because killing was in their foundation.

Did you just say that I don't believe that there is Allah? Pls I never and I will never say such. I have seen Allah several times as he lay helpless in his spiritual cage, so why will I say that he doesn't exist?
Allah will remain caged for 997 years more, having completed about three years out of 1000 years he was to spend in his spiritual cage.
Go and read the Book of Universal History and you'll see my position concerning Allah. Peace.

Dibnim 2: 10

10. There is no god in the universe who has been robed with a great glory as me, therefore Allah, Yahweh, Moloch, El, Enlil and their likes cannot withstand me in strength.
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 2:23am On Jun 22, 2019
jesusjnr:
Nah you don't get to have the last word, not majority of illegitimate voters! grin

OK maybe I should just score an own goal so that it would be 1-1 draw, so that everyone can rest, so that's it.

So you should be happy now, it's a tie. Bye! grin
Tie gini! grin I nor go gree o, I nor go gree grin
How can you prophet of 'expired soon' have a tie with me? It's 4.5 to 0.5 because you didn't even get a whole support grin We have to share LordReed's vote equally, then I have the rest of the votes. Goodnight, sweet dreams cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 1:14am On Jun 22, 2019
Yahweh has now been in his spiritual prison for 2 years, 9 months, 3 weeks and 6 days
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 1:13am On Jun 22, 2019
jesusjnr:
The bolded is seriously cracking me up! Lol! grin

Lordreed is now a baby that I am feeding with words.

You really don't know Lordreed if not you would know that if he has an opportunity to fall my hand, he would not only fall my hand but fall my entire body on the ground.

He said so the first time, only because he hadn't thoroughly examined what you said, but when he did he saw that I clearly had a point, which made him resolute in spite of all the attempts to cajole and intimidate him by the "many inconsequential atheists". grin



So you'd rather not use words appropriately eh?

With all the worldly knowledge you have, you should be able to use expressions and they are without any ambiguity even though complex, for if this your saying was an option compared to example you used, you would never have gone for yours over that one, for the reason you chose that one was because it was perfectly clear!

I just feel sorry for you, because if it's those atheists you want to follow you'd only be a mediocre, for it's not everyone that has the ability to spot errors as I can.

Moreover as I said earlier on, they are inconsequential, for remember I even called two atheists which should have given you the upper hand, but the only one that showed up said I was correct.

So even if the other one shows up and supports you the best you could get is a draw.

But for now nothing for you. Sorry! cool

Yeah right! Otem of all people, com'on stop consoling yourself. smiley



Now you're being a good student.

So why were you so stubborn in the first place as if you were to big to learn from jesusjnr? grin

This is what you should have done in the first place but you were so much in a hurry.

Maybe you should learn to be patient, because look at the difference it has made in your life? Lol! cheesy

You think you did it for me, but honestly tell me, if you are told to chose between this your modified expression and the first one, which would you choose?

For this your statement can be used as an example anywhere in the world as the example you used before because it is perfectly clear and makes logical sense.

But don't thank me, thank God for He's the one that has helped me to help you to produce better expressions of otem.

Now you can call the "many inconsequential atheists" to make their observations if this expression isn't better than your first?
Wow! You wrote so much! You're poetic and a genius. But anyway, I go with the atheists who supported my views. That's how we rock the world. "Majority carries the vote" grin

You didn't even get up to 1 vote, because Lordreed didn't even say I was totally wrong, but the other atheists said that you were. To you, they are inconsequential, to me they are not. Go for what you want while I go for mine, man no go vex grin
So now we can move on. It's fun while our argument lasted. We are not grammarians, we are all students of the English language and none of us is an authority in it. Enjoy your night bro. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 12:04am On Jun 22, 2019
LordReed:
I think what he is saying makes a sort of sense. If he dies it means his mission has ended. As long as he is alive the mission is still on.
Jesusjnr, here's what LordReed said as his first response before you influenced his decision and made him alter his opinion a bit. So what would you say about this? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 11:51pm On Jun 21, 2019
jesusjnr:
Many atheists but the inconsequential ones sorry, for the only one legit atheist in this respect said I was correct, so you lose otem! grin

Trust me, for lordreed to say I was correct, that means that i was correct. wink

But if you want to be deceived by the "many atheists" well your choice for you've chosen to be mediocre like them! Lol! grin

So you should keep your pardon, for you actually need it more than I do. cheesy
No, he didn't say that you were correct. You put words into his mouth grin The first thing he said was that he things I made sense. Then you quoted him before he said something else. He didn't want to fall your hands grin He didn't also say that I was wrong, he only said that using the word 'ended' rather than 'fulfilled' would have been more appropriate. But other atheists understood what I was saying immediately, which puts me on the winning side cheesy
Anyway, I'm not trying to make a competition out of this. It's just something we do for the fun of it.

"If I die today, then I should have fulfilled my mission. If I haven't fulfilled it, then I can't die yet."

Does it make sense to you? I intentional added a 'should' maybe you'll now understand, but people should understand even without the 'should' grin
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 10:21pm On Jun 21, 2019
CHAPTER FOUR
1. In those days, words came to Uthman concerning Egypt, saying, the Egyptians detest the seat of the Caliph, upon which you sit. They also hate you for burning many versions of the Quran, which they preferred to the one which you have brought together. Therefore let us plot the downfall of the Egyptian and let us win their hearts.
2. Now Uthman called his counsellors together and said, by what mean shall we subdue Egypt? Then one wise young man named Mohammed, the son of Hudhaifa said, great one, let us capture Egypt through their head. Let us not go and make physical war with them this time.
3. Now Uthman said, it is the truth, but we know how Amr the son of Al-as had been very powerful in Egypt. And if we go after him, man to man, we shall not conquer him, because he is full of power.
4. And we know how he is not a friend of Medina. Therefore tell me this time how I shall be able to make him subject to us.
5. Now Mohammed said, we may not be able to make Amr subject to us, but by strengthening his enemy, we shall subdue now. Now I advise that you send some men to go into Egypt and seek for us a rebel against the kingdom of Egypt.
6. And we shall support such rebel so much that he shall be able to weaken the hands of Amr the son of Al-as. For by continual attacks of rebels and terrorists on a kingdom shall the kingdom become weak.
7. Now Uthman said, this is a very good advice and I shall do according to your counsel, you Mohammed, son of Hudhaifa. So Uthman sent men to Egypt. And they found out a rebel to the kingdom of Egypt, whose name was Abdullah, the son of Sad.
8. Now the men of Medina greeted Abdullah and said to him, the caliph of Medina has sent us to you to strengthen your hands against the king of Egypt and he shall reward you greatly if you shall be able to take over the land of Egypt.
9. Now when Abdullah the son of Sad heard it, he said, great be the caliph of Medina. Let his reign be forever upon the seat of the caliphate. Let his judgement rule over all the lands of the earth.
10. Now I, Abdullah, the son of Saad, am ready to do the will of the caliph. Only let him send help so that I would have more power to fight against the son of Al-as and take his seat.
11. When reports came to Uthman, saying, the son of Saad has agreed to cooperate with you, he was very happy. Then he said, if the past leaders of Islam could fight and conquer battles, why will I not also do so?
12. They have expanded Islam into many places and they have fought many wars. The war of Badr is one, the war of Uhud is another. The war of Yathrib, of Khaybar, of Mutah, of Abraq, of Namaraq, Yarmuk, Qadisiyyah, Jalula and of Alexandria, are they not wars which Islam has fought to conquer lands, destroy people and take over many places?
13. Shall Islam cease to fight and shed blood? No, we shall not, for Jihad is good and our prophet Mohammad is great also. He has commanded wars and terrorism of lands, kingdoms and all places on earth. He used subtlety to make Amr conquer Egypt for Islam. Such subtlety shall I also use to conquer Egypt this time, for Mohammad the son of Hudhaifa shall do the same. I shall make him the helper of Abdullah and they shall take down Amr and rule over Egypt. And they shall be subject to me Uthman.
14. Great be Allah, for he has given us the son of Hudhaifa. And by him shall Egypt be subdued. Was Hudhaifa his father not my friend in the days when I and Abdullah the son of Saad put together all versions of the Qurans which were filled with heresies and I unified the Quran? So will his son also be my friend forever.
15. Now Uthman sent Mohammed the son of Hudhaifa to Egypt to meet Abdullah the son of Saad, saying, let him help you to bring down Amr. Then shall you become the governor of Egypt and Mohammed shall be your helper.
16. So Abdullah accepted Mohammed the son of Hudhaifa and they criticised the rulership of Amr the son of Al-as so much that they began to have many followers. Now Amr sent soldiers to capture Abdullah and Mohammed, but the people of the land protested, saying, Egypt shall be shredded to pieces if you lay your hands on them.
17. It is not a coincidence that they bear the names of Abdullah the father of the prophet and Mohammed, the prophet himself. For the future of Egypt is in them both and you cannot lay your hands on them.
18. When Amr could not do anything to the two rebels because of the people, he became disturbed in his mind and fell sick. Now in those days, Abdullah and Mohammed began to protest all over the land, saying, this is the wrath of Allah against Amr, because he does not respect the caliph of Medina, Uthman.
19. We therefore request from the caliph a removal of Amr from the governorship position.
20. Now Uthman commanded the removal of Amr, saying, let Abdullah be made the governor of Egypt and let Mohammed the son of Hudhaifa be his helper.
21. When Amr heard this, he refused to go down from his position. But he sought to send for the execution of both Abdullah and Mohammed. However, many of the Egyptians spoke against Amr, saying, the caliph has spoken and you must obey him.
22. So Amr was removed from the position of governor and Abdullah the son of Saad took over from him. Then did Egypt become totally submissive to the caliph of Medina, because Abdullah the son of Saad, who became the governor, was subject to Uthman.

The emboldened reveals how Uthman, the third Islamic Caliph was rejoicing over their ability to shed the blood of innocent people under the name of Islam. It is not a miracle that Islam expanded, it is by mere warfare. They mixed war and bloodletting with their religion all in a bid to Islamize the world. Nowadays that the world has been 'islamized' what next are they doing? They wouldn't just stop killing. It's in their blood. Hmm.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 10:13pm On Jun 21, 2019
Chapter Two
1. Now these are some of the names of the people who upheld the religion of Mohammad from the sixth century of the common era to the tenth century;

2. Abu Bakr, Hasan, Umar, Abd Wahabi, Ali, Al-Khattab, Affan, Uthman, Aban, Al-As, Rukayya, Husain, Marwan, Abd Malik, Al-Walid, Sulaiman, Mohammad(son of Maslamah), Abd-Aziz, Abd-Talib, Maslamah, Muawiyah, Yazid, Ahnaf;

3. At-Tai, Al-Kadir
Abd-Rahman, Aisha, Utaik, Fadra, Qareeba, Kuhafah, Abu Jafar, Al-Faruk, Bishr, Ayyub, Al-Zubar, Zinba, Ammar, Bassit, Hisham, Ibrahim, Awf, As-Saffah, Al-Mansur, Al-Mahdi, Al-Hadi, Al-Rashid, Al-Amin, Nafir, Al-Muti, Aamir;

4. Al-Mustafi, Muhsin, Hilal, Manzur, Al-Wakidi, Jada, Yasir, Jarir, Mamun, Al-Mutasim, Al-Wathiq, Al-Mutawakkil, Ukba, Haheem, Mamar, Al-Muntasir, Al-Mutazz, Talha, Kathir, Kasim, Al-Muthana, Al-Khadim, Jafri, Al- Al-Muhtadi, Al-Mutamid, Ubaidhullah, Al-Muktafi, Al-Muktadir, Al-Qahir, Thabit, Ar-Radi, Al-Muttaki, Atham, Kawla, Jabla Abdi and many others.
5. All these people caused many wars and fought many battles, killing and oppressing millions of people who did not accept their religion.
6. This is the origin of [modern] religious terrorism. For many of these people were against formerly established authority, fighting to oppose every good law made in their territories.
7. They forced people to accept Islam and killed those who refused them.
8. They turned many into widows and widowers, destroyed property, raped little children and forced young girls into very early marriages, according to the deeds of Mohammad when he was alive.
9. Now the leader of the people named Uthman made himself strong. And he said, Umar was strong, but I am stronger.
10. Therefore let every iron submit to me, for I am here to bend every unbendable.
11. I will ignite the fire of violence upon the unbelievers ten times more than Mohammad and Umar put together.
12. Let the beasts of the jungle hear my voice and flee.
13. Now Uthman called Rukayya his wife and said, your father killed a thousand people for Allah, but I shall kill a million.
14. Now Uthman was very rich, because he was a merchant before becoming the leader of the people.
15. Now in the days of Uthman, the people of his land enjoyed more wealth than in the days of Abu Bakre and Umar, because he made sure more money was allocated to the people.
16. However, he put much more resources into warfare, fighting and killing the unbelievers in different lands.
17. Now when Uthman was the ruler of the people, the people of Makran rebelled, saying, we shall no more be under the rulership of Uthman.
18. Now when Uthman heard this saying, he sent armies to the land to destroy it. So Makran was subdued with great bloodshed.


The emboldened clearly tells us that modern religious terrorism has its birth from this religion called Islam. We can see Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, ISIS and other terrorist groups. They all have their roots in Islam. Their great grandfather terrorist groups are the Kharijites, Shiites, Tawwabins, etc.
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Christianity Etc › Re: What If Your World Ends Today, Would You Be Ready? by OtemAtum: 10:02pm On Jun 21, 2019
jesusjnr:
Otem, i expect that by now you should have seen for yourself that your expression wasn't as perfect as you intended it to be.

For I know a perfect expression when I see one, but someone about yours was quite vague and not seamless.

I very well know what you intended to do, for I do that a lot here, that's why I said the other example you gave was perfect and made sense.

But perhaps it's high time we moved on from that so as not to over flog the issue and also i believe we both have bigger fishes to fry. grin
It's you who misconstrued what I was saying. You don't get my grammar, I guess. 'If' and 'but' should be two words that anyone shouldn't easily misunderstand. As you can see, many of the atheists who saw it understood clearly what I meant. Maybe grammatically you think it's not clear to you, but that isn't how it seems to everyone. So I pardon you in this, because English is not our local language. grin

Anyway, if you ask me to state my stance ten more times, I'll say the same thing over and over again. But if you demand explanation, I will make it clearer to you as I did earlier.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 9:57pm On Jun 21, 2019
58. Now after the death of Mohammad, many of the muslims began to write texts which they ascribed to Mohammad himself. They made him seem bigger than he actually was by inflating the number of battles he actually fought.
59. They also made up mythical creatures, saying, Mohammad rode upon a winged steed, which had a human head and a body of a horse. Now they did all these to make Mohammad seem great.
60. Now one named Umar and another named Abubakr went and fetched fifty men who were talented in writing of stories. And they paid them and said, write many great things concerning Mohammad.
61. Then they began to write many unbelievable things, for they thought to make Mohammad appear greater than any of the mythical characters in the christian bible and the Torah of the Jews.
62. So they wrote, saying, Mohammad split the moon, sank a horse, provided food and water supernaturally, caused the enemy armies to go blind in a battle, caused rain to fall, spoke with stones and trees and they responded with human voices;
63. Also, some of them wrote saying, Mohammad does not have a shadow because he is light. They also said that Mohammad made food to praise Allah their god and he also comforted a crying palm tree. They said that Mohammad also created eyes and ears and fixed them on a boy born without those organs.
64. They said also, when Mohammad arrived Medina, everything there became illuminated and when he died, Medina went dark. They told lies about the disappeareance of Mohammad into the moon.
65. In their books, they lied also that Mohammad turned faeces to food and fed on it with eight thousand muslims. They also said that Mohammad made trees to move entirely from one place to another, for ten trees of Mecca accompanied him to Medina.
66. Also, they lied that when Mohammad prayed over a slaughtered ram, the ram swelled to twenty-one times its size and fed the whole town.
67. They lied also, saying, Mohammad held a whirlwind in his hands and the whirlwind begged him in human voice to release it. Then when Mohammad had released the whirlwind, it went and destroyed eight thousand enemies.
68. Now the lies which the writers of the false biographies of Mohammad wrote was more than the lies which had ever appeared in any religious books, but one man named Ishaq adviced, saying, let us reduce the things which we ascribe to Mohammad, because too much of everything is not good.
69. So they listened to Ishaq and included only about one-third of the things they had initially written.
70. Now the religion called Islam continued to spread and breed terrorists all over the world, for so was their founder, Mohammad when he was on earth, as well as Allah(Abd Allah) their god, who had acquired the status of God Almighty in the minds of his worshippers.
71. So did the philosophies of Abd-Allah spread from one place to another, even to Aksum, Syria and many other parts of the world. For the world loved to hear the lies of the books which were called holy.
72. But the thinkers knew that all these things were lies.


The emboldened reveals the many lies the early Muslims told about the greatness of Mohammad. Ignorantly, these people didn't know that in the future, human beings will outgrow gullibility to question all such things. Imagine, trees moving from one place to the other, moon splitting, slaughtered ram rising times twenty-one of its size. All these are ridiculous claims only believed by the gullible ancients
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op):
iamgenius:
May the endless wrath of your Creator be upon you if you're a liar.
Aseee!!!
But the problem is that God Almighty doesn't get angry with humanity. Also, I am not a liar so there's no chance of such thing occurring.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 7:42pm On Jun 21, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
I said I have understand you. U really need agbo giri. Giri is worry you. Thanks you
Lol, I can't but laugh at your comment. grin
Islam › The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:52pm On Jun 21, 2019
Afospecialk, here is the history of your god and your religion which the Book of Universal History recorded. Here you will see how many terrorist groups began. You will know about the Kharijites, Tawwabin, Shiites, Sunnis, Alids, Marwanids, Ummayads, Abbassids, etc.
You will see the deeds of your caliphs from Abu Bakr down to Muawiyah and after. You'll see the bloody activities of Islam while they expanded. Their expansion is a fulfillment of Knoliud, the Thummim of God Almighty who said that a religion will expand by violence both in the past world and in our present world.
You will see beyond what you already konw about your religion. Just sit back and study the HISTORY. Peace.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 4:43pm On Jun 21, 2019
Afospecialk:
Does your book of history consist details of how Allah conquer his enemies starting with just only 1 person to over 1 billions of populations that now practices islam across the world ?




Do you ever take time to reflect on what over 1 billion populations who are practicing Islam today see before accepting Islam ?

Is it by violence all the countries across the world accept Islam ?

Is it by violence just only 7 number of people who first accept Islam defeated millions of warriors all across the world before they finally accept Islam ?


(Allah is beyond human being imagination bcs he is the only creator of all creatures including angels nd all prophets, the one without beginning nd end, He begets not, nor was he begotten and the only ruling judge of the day of recompense)

Anything above these, yu ar free to define Allah to suits your subconscious conceptual inclination


You dont claim to know Allah more than the people that practice Islam
Basic
One person or seven people did not defeat millions of people. It was a movement beginning from Moh Ahmad, then gradually, he began to have supporters. Then like groups of terrorists, they continued to kill people anyhow. They killed the Zoroastrians and the polytheists the most. They had more and more followers, the Kharijites, the Shiites, the Sunnis etc arose from these terrorist sects. They continued to kill and kill till these days. The BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY recorded it all and I will have a thread dedicated for this purpose because here cannot contain everything about how Islam started and expanded. I will mention you once I open the thread. Thanks.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 4:38pm On Jun 21, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Ok I come to understand you now. But Almighty God can be only worship in Islam other way is astray
God Almighty, the creator of Allah, does not have pleasure in worship, rather, it has pleasure in science, which is the only method that can explore the nature of Existence. Islam is just a personal philosophy of Allah who existed some years back, died and is being worshipped today. Go and read the Book of Universal History, there it is recorded how Allah began and how he died and hoe his philosophy was propagated by Moh Ahmad and his mates who killed thousands of people to establish this philosophy.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 12:46pm On Jun 21, 2019
weavesquad:
you are dead:

1. before posting, u accepted to be a Muslim and believe in Allah.
How did you know that I accepted to be a Muslim before posting? How did you know that I believe in Allah?

weavesquad: 2. you posted rubbish without justifying your comment
What I posted is backed up by the thummims(prophecies) found in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. This same book is one which reveals how God Almighty created Allah your god.

weavesquad: 3. How did you know that the statement is for the dead...

INALILAHI WAINA LAE ROJIUN
I am not an illiterate. As a matter of fact, I have been able to understand more than 300 ancient languages by revelation. I can speak many extinct language, including the Seriot Language which all gods of the past world preferred in those days. I can even tell you Allah's preferred quotation in the Seriot Language if you care to know.

"Al pesh wooshiere yim wuyum trish årevizz".

Translation: "I love violence more than anything in the world"

This is the reason why Violence can never depart from Islam, the religion of Allah. cool
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:50am On Jun 21, 2019
tencobrown:
may you accept Islam on no distance time.
And may you accept the truth of reality soonest.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:11am On Jun 21, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
grin. Guy why you always like to disgrace cross rat ? Who told you (Yahweh) is God? Where in ot Jesus call God (Yahweh) ? Yahweh is Idol and he belongs to isreal only.

Can you show me in your Bible where God said I am (Yahweh)? Can you show me in Bible where (Yahweh) can be found? What is the meaning of (Yahweh) ?


Allah above all nonsense. You are in great confusion
Did you see me mention that Yahweh is God Almighty? As a matter of fact, Yahweh is not even up to 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of God Almighty in power, energy or extent, same as Allah.
God Almighty is beyond anything human beings have ever worshipped. God Almighty is the totality of existence. It is the source of all these puny gods you humans have ever worshipped and the best way to understand God Almighty is through science rather than religion.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:08am On Jun 21, 2019
Saka4luv:
Science is part of knowledge my friend all scientist will say Ohh God! when in big or tough situations without them knowing sometimes, why? Science helps in solving many problems and still create many problems during the process science is the root of civilization that brings western worlds and still leads to unsafely worlds..... who create chemicals who create guns weapons drugs space craft who invent this and that all is done to increase living standards of people and live healthy right? but later will turns out to have it disadvantages that will cause much of damage lost of live even extinction of creatures.... Science is by human and human can never be perfect that our in perfection is what GOD the all knowing use to create us and nothing we can do about it nothing can be perfect from man with time another man will see fault and try to improve on it till the world ends we will always continue to make the world better by science and technology and problems will surely be arising cuz of our imperfections..... science is knowledge to acquire to solve few problems and can never supersede religion non can it be a true way to follow. scientist still pray when in problem to who? and why? Many questions are still there that scientists has no answer to... many
When God Almighty sent Allah, Yahweh, Chaleb, Moloch, Vishnu, Chimides, Olorun, Chukwu, Nyame, Enlil etc into the universes billions of years ago, it didn't send them for the purpose of turning the universes to places where they are occupied with worshipping itself or any of these its offsprings I mentioned above, rather God Almighty told them to go and explore the universes. Now what the gods of science are trying to achieve is to bring back humanity into full science, whereby we can discover more of the Nature of God Almighty. Religion doesn't lead to God Almighty, the totality of existence, rather, it leads to each of the gods. For example, Zoroastrianism leads to the worship of Ahura Mazda, Islam leads to the worship of Abd Allah(aka Allah), Christianity and Judaism lead to the worship of Yahweh+fictitious Jesus and Yahweh respectively. Hinduism leads to the worship of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma. But using scientific method helps to discover the nature of Existence and God Almighty is the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE.
You said that nothing can be perfect with man, yes, this is because the knowledge of God Almighty (Totality of Existence) is immeasurable and unquantifiable. Therefore human beings from generation to generation will keep discovering and rediscovering the ever-dynamic God Almighty, unlike the ever-static(unchanging) Yahweh and Allah, the puny gods majority of humans now worship.

The universal rule is:
1. Use your brain
2. Worship no god(or God Almighty)
3. Do good to humanity.

Once you can meet up with these standards, then you are fulfilling the universal rule of this NEW AGE. Peace.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:43am On Jun 21, 2019
Rashduct4luv:
Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

May Allah grant you life.
How can a lifeless(vacuum-bound) Allah grant life to a lively Otem? Anyway, here is the successful history of the second incarnation of Allah your god. This time, he successfully made himself a god.


Common Era 1: 6- 18

6. Now a man named Abd-Allah, being also a reincarnate of Allah, had no son. And Abd-Allah was a man of many words, having written a lot of philosophies. Now in those days, the people of the Arabians gathered before Abd-Allah to learn his words, for they regarded him as a god.
7. But the Zoroastrians and those who worshipped Illat and Hubab hated him, saying, why does Abd-Allah, a mere man, equate himself with a god? He shall die suddenly for this.
8. However, Abd-Allah continued to get stronger. And those who learnt his philosophies submitted themselves to him to be his slaves. And he said to them, all humans are my slaves, for they shall know it and become so in their souls.
9. Now when Moh had heard so much concerning Abd-Allah, he left Yanbu with Moh-Ahmad his son and came to Medina to see Abd-Allah to learn from him. Then Abd-Allah began to speak great words.
10. And he said to Moh, your son is one who shall make known my words to the world. Therefore I have laid hold on him and you cannot return with him anymore.
11. Now Moh bowed his head before Abd-Allah and said, blessed be you Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial. For you have chosen my lowly son out of thousands of people.
12. You have said, let Moh-Ahmad be the propagator of your words. Who is Moh-Ahmad my son to be privileged to bear your words? He is like an ant before you. Take him with you and use him as you wish.
13. Now Abd-Allah put his right hand on the forehead of Moh and said, your name shall be famed together with the name of your son Ahmad forever, because you have chosen not to withdraw him from my presence, but rather, you have released him to me Allah, the greatest.
14. Now return to your land in peace while Ahmad your son shall remain with me. And Aminah my wife shall take care of him. I can assure you that there shall be no sufferring come upon Ahmad your son.
15. And Mohammad shall his name be called forever.
16. Now Mohammad was Seventeen years old when he came to be with Abd-Allah. And Abd-Allah taught him all his philosophies, saying, you must observe all of it.
17. Now when Moh had returned to Yanbu his land of nativity, Ramata his wife asked, saying, where is Moh-Ahmad our son whom you took with you to Medina? Then Moh said, do not call him our child anymore, rather, call him the slave of Abd-Allah our god.
18. For he is now a slave to Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial, whose seat is in Medina.
Islam › Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:36am On Jun 21, 2019
Rashduct4luv:
Allah is the creator of Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses,.....Jesus and Muhammad. No matter the name He was called in the past.

Allah
Elah
Elaha
Eli
Eloi
Elohim
Eloha
.....
Do you know that this Elaha first failed in his first incarnation into the homo sapiens era? He came to establish himself as a god, but could not achieve that. He was later successful in his second incarnation under the name of Abd Allah which later became Allah. Read the Book of Universal History for more.



Homo Sapiens III :15- 23
15. Elaha was a homo sapiens born in a place now called Iran in the 70,054th year of the homo sapiens era..
16. Now the name of his father was Abdulaha, who was a cattle rearer.
17. In those days, Elaha had no interest in becoming a cattle rearer like his father, rather, he loved to be among the storytellers and the singer of songs.
18. Now when Elaha was thirty years old, he dreamt and saw his consciousness flying in another body.
19. Then those who flew with him said to him, go and change the philosophy of your land.
20. Then Elaha awoke and declared himself to the people as the creator of the world.
21. Now he was taken and brought before the rulers of the land. Then he was offered a choice to either recant his pronouncement or face death.
22. Then Elaha recanted his profession and lived. Then the philosophy of his land which was the philosophy of Ilam, the god of the people, continued in those days.
23. So Elaha, who was also called Allah, could not establish his name as a god among the people until his death in the 70,098th year of the homo sapiens era.

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