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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Were The Nicholaitans? (revelations 2:6) by OtemAtum: 8:09am On Aug 15, 2019
NIKLATIANS
CHAPTER TWO

1. Now the next day, Niklas said to Stevin, it is time to return to Roma. And Stevin said, I have been humiliated yesterday by that old witch who worships trees. And I shall not go until I have humiliated her back. 2. For I am searching through the words which Zeusus left behind to counter her. And Niklas said, many wise homos had come after Nemonis to see her back, but none of them have succeeded. It is better that you sit back and watch. For she cannot be conquered with words of the mouth, being now 72 years and full of experience. 3. Now Stevin said again, take me to Nemonis once again, and I shall show her what I am. And Steven took an axe with him and went to the place of Nemonis. And he said, come out O you old witch. For I have got reply to your foolishness. 4. And Nemonis came outside and said, do you not regard the old? For how do you come without greeting and knocking? For this is not a good thing in our culture. 5. And Stevin said, I have come to show you that the god whom you serve is mortal and we know that God should be immortal. And Nemonis said, show me that God is mortal. And Stevin took the axe and began to cut down the tree which Nemonis worship. And when it was down, Stevin said, see I have killed your god. 6. And Nemonis said, let us go there and I will show you that my God is still alive. And when Stevin followed Nemonis to a place not far away, she went before a tree there and did her worship. And she said, I have told you before that my God is omnipresent. So he is everywhere. And you cannot say of him that he is dead, because you shall always find him at the turning around of your head. 7. Now know also that the tree in my house which you cut down shall take root again and grow. For no one can kill God. For God cannot be created or destroyed. For even the tree which you cut down shall nourish the soil upon which it fell and the soil shall be better than before. Therefore God whom I serve has not died, but has transmitted his energy into another thing. 8. And if you insist O Stevin that you shall kill God, then go and uproot all the trees in the whole world. But I tell you that before you might have gone round the world to do this, some other trees would have taken root again. 9. Now Stevin said, my god created all these trees. And Nemonis said, what is the proof? And Stevin could not give clear explanation, for he had only the Tora with him to make his proof. And Nemonis said, I cannot read and write, so how shall I know what you have there? 10. But I have mouth to speak and I shall tell you how the trees created all things also. And these are the things spoken by our forefathers. And Stevin said, your forefathers have told you a lie. 11. And Nemonis said, which of these two should I believe more? Your forefathers or mine? For my forefathers are they who gave me life and the clothes which I put on. And they left this house for me for free. 12. Now tell me what advantage has your forefathers done to me to believe them? 13. And Stevin said, believe at least in Zeusus the Krist. And Nemonis said, believe also in Ristot the great, or in As-clepius the god who made use of magic and herbs from trees to cure sicknesses. 14. Now when Stevin saw that he could not prevail over her, he left her and departed. And Niklas said, have you seen, O Stevin that the god of Juda is not known here. And the gods which they worship seem also very real to them. And there is no matter in which you can judge them. 15. For in wisdom, they have it. And in the matter of cure, they know it even more than us. And in morality, they do not lack anything. And there are no proofs to show that your own god is more powerful than theirs. For in growing to old age, they grow and they do not die young all the time. 16. For as it is in Juda, so it is in this place also. 17. And Stevin said, let us go tomorrow to other people who worship other things. For I know that I shall convert a soul in this place to Zeusus and that soul shall help to spread our gospel. 18. Now Niklas brought Stevin to an homofal who worship stones and sand. And she was old also like Nemonis. And her name was Klopaat. And Stevin greeted her well and she set food before them, saying, eat and be happy. And she brought wine and they drank also. 19. Now Steven said after they had eaten, who is god whom you worship? And the homofal said, the soil is God. And Stevin laughed so much that the food got into his head. And when he was settled again, he said, why do you worship sand as your god? 20. And Klopaat said, can you do anything without the soil? Can you plant your crops in the air? 21. And Stevin said, but you know that the true god made this soil which you worship as god. And Klopaat said, God himself is the soil. And Stevin said, can the soil exist without God? 22. And Klopaat said, can any god exist without the soil? And Stevin took out the books of the history of Juda and began to read in the tongue of Grecon. And Klopaat said, with what is that book made which you read from, and Stevin said, it is made with papyrus. 23. And Klopaat said, did you not say earlier that your god is the god of Juda who lives in the paradise? How come you are speaking for the god which Nemonis believe on? And Stevin was confused, saying, I do not know what you are saying? 24. And Klopaat said, you are reading from a papyrus, which is made of trees, therefore that is the god of Nemonis and not the god of Juda. And Stevin could not speak anymore. And Klopaat said, I await your god to speak from the paradise from which he lives and not you speaking from the papyrus which is the god of Nemonis. 25. When Stevin heard this, he said, this is witchcraft. And Klopaat said, if you call the things of nature witchcraft, then you do not deserve to be here. For the soil you walk upon is God and the soil upon which you plant is God and with God did you build your house. 26. And with God did you make your tablets which you write on. Yet you did not appreciate God who is nature and is everywhere. For there is no place you go without soil. And there is nowhere you walk upon without soil. And soil is in the depth of the ocean and even in the air. 27. So why do you not accept the omnipresence of the soil? And through the soils do our fathers consult their higher self to reveal mysteries to them, using the cowries and the shells which are the things of nature. 28. And with the soil and stones do we cure many sicknesses and diseases here. So why do you say that we should not do our worship to the soil? 29. Now when Stevin heard this, he said, you are possessed of the devils. And he left her alone. 30. And Stevin was greatly bothered when he laid his back to rest. And Niklas went to him and said, it shall be hard to change the people in this place to the worship of the god of Juda except by the use of force. 31. But I know that many of them shall accept to die rather than leaving their beliefs for foreign believes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Were The Nicholaitans? (revelations 2:6) by OtemAtum: 8:04am On Aug 15, 2019
The Nicolatians were the 'enlightened ones' far back in the days of Paul, Silas and Barnabas. They were science-oriented and were able to counter many dogmas of Christianity and other religions successfully.
The Nicolatians used common sense, rather than faith, to judge matter. They also predicted future technologies successfully through revelations and observations.
The Nicolatians were well hated by the Christians and also by the governments of those days.

Now I will post the Nicolatian doctrine in full so that you can be well enlightened.



chapter one
1. In the year when Niklas, the son of Bedum came to the city of Roma from Grecon, he found they who said that they were Krishtens. And they called him and taught him the manner in which they worshipped their god.
2. And it was the fourth year after Zeusus Bar-Rabas was tied to the pole at ‘Gol-govatha' which according to interpretation was called ‘the town of the intelligent souls’. For it was dominated by the spiritual fraction of the Sadosis who regarded themselves as the most intelligent of all sects in those days.
3. Now Nikanor brought Niklas before the Krishtens who were in Roma. And he said to them, I have brought this homo to the fold, for he knows well how to address the public. For he is very great in the use of words.
4. And Petra said, he must need learn the Seriot and know it, or else he shall not be useful to us. For the Seriot alone which we speak has helped many to get into the trance states and faint and waking up, they convert to our religion, especially the women who by the great emotion they express did lose there consciousness easily and fall.
5. And all they who saw it believe in large number and are converted.
6. Now Niklas said, teach me the Seriot and I shall know it. And Niklas was taught the language of the Seriot. And he was well learned in it. And Niklas said, now what shall I do with it? And Petra said, in any places you go, lay your hands upon the people and pray in this language.
7. And when the homos must have taken much of these words into their heads, they shall become hypnotised and fall. That is the power of the Holy Ghost.
8. And Niklas said, and after the fall, what shall happen again? And Petra said, everything else is left for the victim. For he could see vision or dream any sort of dreams. He could see revelations or hear voices.
9. All that is left for such one, but indeed he shall know that we have power.
10. And Niklas went and did as Petra had said, praying in the Seriot language. And when many began to see themselves entering into some other realms, they began to convert in large number. And Niklas and those who were with him preached the gospel.
11. Now Niklas began to reason deeply within him and he said, are these things which Petra and the others preach true? Are the things which we see like visions actually visions in their entirety? For I have observed that many of these things which I see in my dreams as visions were the things which I have first pondered upon before I slept.
12. And we called them prophecies and tell the people. And some of them are not fulfilled while some are fulfilled. And Niklas approached Petra with the matter, saying, why do some of our prophecies go unfulfilled if actually they are from god and Zeusus Krista and the Holy Ghost also?
13. And Petra said, our god is not static but dynamic. For he determines what should be fulfilled and what should not. Now O Niklas, have you found anyone challenging our prophecy, saying that they did not fulfill even when they did not?
14. This is so because the spirit of god is one and he has spoken also into the minds of the people the reasons why they did not get fulfilled.
15. And Niklas said, but we who prophesied it, why do we not always know the reason why they are not fulfilled? And Petra said, I don’t know of you, but I know of myself that the things which I say, if they do not come to pass, our lord Zeusus do always communicate with me to tell me the reasons why they do not.
16. Now when Petra did not listen to the continual complaint of Niklas, he confided in Stevin, one who was well knowledgeable in mysteries and in the language called Seriot. And he said to Stevin, O my brother, I have come to you, for you are more knowledgable than me in mysteries. And they have said of you that you are filled with the Holy Spirit.
17. Now tell me indeed all the mysteries which you know of this world? And Stevin said, the mystery of our Lord Zeusus who departed to Sodom-Egypt after his death on the stake shall I tell you first.
18. And Stevin began to teach Niklas all the things about Yeshu, according to how himself had written it. And Niklas said, be not too bothered, O Stevin. For I ask many questions. And Niklas said, why should blood be shed at all to take away sins?
19. And why do people who do not know about all these death of Zeusus still determine not to do evil and they were able also not to do it? And Steven said, who have determined not to do evil and is able?
20. For all those who have not accepted Zeusus Krista cannot be free from doing evil.
21. And Niklas said, from the day of my childhood, even till this days, I have hated evil with all my soul. And I go about to find only good for humanity. And I know also of hundreds of people in Atenes who hate evil so much, yet they have not heard even till now that there has ever been any Zeusus who died for their sins.
22. And all these are older than the earthly Zeusus even by a score years and more. And Stevin said, you have lied O Niklas, saying that you do not do evil even from your childhood.
23. And Niklas said, if you think not to believe me, then shall you follow me to Atenes to see it with your own eyes? And Stevin agreed to follow Niklas. And they reached Atenes on a certain day. And Niklas showed Stevin those who worship Ristot and some who worship Xender and some who worship Dian.
24. And there be some who worship trees and pots and sand and stones also. And all they whom Niklas showed Stevin were good homos. For they came hastily to welcome Niklas and his visitor. And they washed their legs with water and gave them water to take their bath.
25. And they set food before them to eat. And Stevin ate the food when he had seen Niklas eating it first. And these homos brought their children to Stevin so that they might do service to him. And these children saw Stevin as their father and respected him.
26. And they came to Stevin and said, tell us sir why it is good to be a virgin until the day of marriage. And Stevin was amazed, saying, who told you that it is a good thing to keep your virginity?
27. And they said, our parents do always say to us in their fables and stories that it is good to keep our virginity for our husband. And they teach us the reason why lion often go hungry and the reason also why it is not good to keep bad friends.
28. Now Stevin asked them questions about the gods which their parents worship and some of them said, the trees which they worship are in the garden. And Stevin said, why do they worship trees which cannot perceive? And they said, they said that their forefathers handed over all these things to them to worship.
29. For they said that all the cures they got to their sicknesses are from these trees.
30. Now Stevin said, why should they worship trees? For it is better for them to worship the god who created those trees. And Niklas said, who is the god who created those trees? And Stevin said, we know that our god, the father of Zeusus did so.
31. And Niklas said, be not provoked O Stevin, but I shall ask you this question. What assurance do you have that the father of Zeusus created those trees? Now when Stevin heard this, he looked at Niklas in amazement and said, are you one of them?
32. Now tell me, did the trees create themselves? Can there be a living soul without a creator?
33. And Niklas said, what if I say that the trees created the father of Zeusus, how shall that also go down with you? Now when Stevin heard it, he was provoked. And he said, Niklas, you are mad.
34. And Niklas said, we have not had evidences that the god of Yacob created the trees in Grecon and Roma and in other places, so also have we no evidence yet that the trees created the gods whom many serve, including the god of Yacob.
35. And Stevin was enraged. And he did not speak to Niklas for three days. But the homos of Atenes continued to be good to Stevin and it amazed him that some homos could be good without the knowledge of Zeusus Krista.
36. Now Stevin approached the old housewives whose husbands had gone to the farm to work. And he said, why do you behave so good to strangers? And they said, it is in our culture to be good, according to how the gods have proclaimed to us.
37. And Steven said, who are the gods whom you worship? And they said, some of us worship Dian and some worship Jupitus and even Attis, but all these are even older religion. For now, many of us worship Ristot and Xender and some do not worship any god at all.
38. But we have those who worship trees and the sun and the moon. And Stevin said, can I see any who worship trees? And they presented to him Nemonis. And she was very old. And Stevin bowed his head before her to show respect for her age.
39. And Nemonis said, my son, for what reason have you come to seek me? And Stevin said, I hear that you worship trees. And Nemonis said, so it is. You have heard the truth. And Stevin said, why?
40. And Nemonis said, our forefathers said to us that the trees are omnipotent and omnipresent and they are omniscient also. And they said that we cannot survive without trees, for they gave to us the breeze of life.
41. And Steven said, is this not foolishness? And Nemonis said, what is foolishness in this? For whenever I need food, I get them from the trees. And whenever I have need of firewood to make food, I go to the trees and cut them to make fire. And whenever I have need of money, I go to the bush and cut branches of trees to sell and make money. And I use the trees to make all kinds of herbs which I have used for cure, therefore trees are omnipotent.
42. And trees are everywhere also, therefore they are omnipresent. And with trees do we make a lot of things which are beyond limit.
43. Now Stevin said, all these things which you speak are foolishness. For the creator of these trees is the god who should be worshipped and not the trees themselves.
44. And Nemonis said, who is the creator of these trees? And Stevin said, he is Yahweh, the father of Zeusus the Krista. And Nemonis said, where is he so that I might believe him and stop worshipping the trees?
45. And Stevin said, he is not visible and he lives in the paradise. And Nemonis laughed so much. And she said, I have given you all the evidences you need to know that the tree which we worship is God, for trees are everywhere which makes him omnipresent. And with trees can diseases be cured which makes him omnipotent and also we know that trees know all our intentions, which makes him omniscient.
46. And Stevin said, how do you prove to me that trees know all our intentions? And Nemonis said, I shall show you. And Nemonis went and sought for a child who was sick. And he said to Stevin, cure this child from his sickness. And Stevin prayed and spoke in the Seriot, but the child, being dumb did not hear him. And she did not fall into a trance.
47. And Nemonis said, this child shall be cured by God who is the tree there. And Nemonis went and plucked a leaf from the tree. And she whispered to the leaf of the tree. And she made herbs from the tree and gave the child to drink. And she drank it and became whole after few hours.
48. And Nemonis said, I know the names of the leaves. And so I have my answers.
49. Now when Steven saw this, he was amazed. And he began to reason deep.
50. And Stevin went home with heaviness of heart.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op):
It's now 2 years, 11 months and 3 weeks since Jehovah lipsrsealed has been captured in his spiritual prison. Eyes keep opening.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Believe And What Do You Believe And Why Do You Believe by OtemAtum: 7:35pm On Aug 14, 2019
rekinomtla:
And we now know belief is a necessary condition for knowledge. Saying you don't do the belief stuff is itself a belief.
How is belief a necessary condition for knowledge?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Believe And What Do You Believe And Why Do You Believe by OtemAtum: 6:33pm On Aug 14, 2019
rekinomtla:
It's was the opinion of some ancient people that the earth was flat, they were wrong cuz actual facts don't care about opinions.
The opinion was seen as a fact by Jehovah and his fellow cavemen back in those days. But now, knowledge had made it false.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 6:32pm On Aug 14, 2019
[quote author=Kay25 post=81252903][/quote]I don't belong to Eckankar. I am Otem.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Believe And What Do You Believe And Why Do You Believe by OtemAtum: 3:45pm On Aug 14, 2019
rekinomtla:
Facts don't care about your feelings.
But earthly facts cannot supersede mine, because I am the most conscious part of God Almighty at this moment cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Believe And What Do You Believe And Why Do You Believe by OtemAtum: 3:44pm On Aug 14, 2019
rekinomtla:
It's a fact, denying it doesn't change that.
earthly philosophical fact, lol. I remember when the assertion that 'the earth is flat' was also a fact. LMAO. May the Light of God reveal future philosophical positions to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 3:42pm On Aug 14, 2019
[quote author=Kay25 post=81251125][/quote]Chai! Ignorant people also think that they know more than knowledge himself. I'll refer you to the book of Eta-Ntagba for better wisdom undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Prison: The Past Is Playing Out In The Present by OtemAtum: 11:39am On Aug 14, 2019
The truth is out
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 11:39am On Aug 14, 2019
Learn
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 11:38am On Aug 14, 2019
It's now 2 years, 11 months, 2 weeks and 6 days since Jehovah has been captured in his spiritual prison. Eyes keep opening.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 3:40am On Aug 14, 2019
Kay25:
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My depth in spiritual matter is far more than yours a thousand times. I have seen the cage of your god and other gods. I have gone too deep. Mind you, the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is not a book of Judaism.
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyedepo Vs Herdsmen: Can Daddy "Dumb" Freeze & Co Answer This? by OtemAtum: 4:45pm On Aug 13, 2019
datasthmagirl:
You have no idea what you are talking about.
I have the book of Universal History with me, so I have more idea, even more than Jehovah and Allah the gods of the earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Believe And What Do You Believe And Why Do You Believe by OtemAtum: 4:43pm On Aug 13, 2019
rekinomtla:
You do do the belief stuff, you can't "know" something without believing it to be so, that's epistemology 101.
I have said it and that is it. I don't do the belief stuff. I am not bound under the philosophy and logic of earthly philosophies wherein they agreed to your ascertion. I am more connected.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum:
ronyman:
Then how can "it "impact or do work
You do work, I do work, animals do work, the sun, the moon, the stars, the ocean, the brains, everything does one work or the other. The totality of everyone and everything in existence is God Almighty and the sum total of every work in existence is a subset of God Almighty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 10:10pm On Aug 11, 2019
[quote author=Kay25 post=81163858][/quote]Exodus is a book originated by Mosheh aka Yahweh only to make himself feel great. The Book of Universal History recorded how this Mosheh/Yahweh died by committing suicide in the end.


B.C.E 16:34- 37
34. Now the rulership of Mosheh(Yahweh) was harsh. He manifested all the attributes of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision also and he ordered war against those who worship Asherah, the one whom they called the queen of heaven. He tried hard to replace the name ‘El’ with ‘Yahweh’ in many texts of the tablets and papyri, but he could not, for many were already attached to the name ‘El’ as ‘God Almighty’.
36. Now Mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty. 37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of Mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And when Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 8:14pm On Aug 11, 2019
Kay25:
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You're very ignorant. Jehovah isn't God Almighty, rather God Almighty created him. Mind you, I am not a Jehovah witness.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum: 7:48pm On Aug 11, 2019
ronyman:
I was trying to let u know that just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You have never seen your brain, yet you believe it's there. I've never seen God but I'm damn sure he's in everything we see, everything we do.
I'm also trying to tell you that God Almighty is not a 'he' but a 'it'. God Almighty doesn't have a penis like Jehovah or Allah because God is not humanlike. Rather God Almighty is the totality of existence, the summation of consciousness.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 7:17pm On Aug 11, 2019
15. Now in those days, a man named Mukhtar, went after Abdullah, son of al-Zubayr in Mecca and said, let us come together to raise fighters. For we shall not let the people of the Ummayad continue to reign as the caliph.
16. For we know that this position belongs to the lineage of Ali, the son of Abi Talib, according to the dictate of Mohammed.
17. Then Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr said, do you think that I will continue to fight for the lineage of Ali? Let everyone rather fight for himself. I shall fight no such foolish fight anymore, rather, I shall fight for my own honour.
18. Are the people of Ali more important than myself that they should be the caliph instead of me? Now I fight to become the caliph and I shall not cease to fight.
19. Now Mukhtar thought deeply and said, I shall fight with you, only grant me a lofty position under you. So Abdullah promised him a great position in his administration.
20. Now Yazid was advised by his adviser, saying, let us rather persuade Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr to pledge allegiance to you, because he is a major threat to your position as the caliph. He is now well revered in Damascus, Medina and even Kufa.
21. He is twenty times more dangerous than Hussein whom you killed in Karbala. Therefore send a message of peace to him and offer him wealth and position. Then he shall submit.
22. Now Yazid said, I shall send gifts and enticing message to him tomorrow, perhaps he will fall for it. But I swear by Allah that as long as I live, I shall not let him die peacefully.
21. Now Yazid sent a silver chain to Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr with 50,000 dirhams. And he said, take these gifts, for the silver chain belongs to our great prophet Mohammed, which he gave my father Muawiyah to honour him in those days.
22. I will also offer you a great position under my administration, but only pledge allegiance to me.
23. Now Abdullah sent message back to Yazid, saying, even if you give me the hand band of the prophet and his waist band as well as his rosary, I will not be moved. Only one thing I desire and that is the seat of the caliphate upon which you sit.
24. Now when Yazid heard the words of Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr, he was very angry. Then he sent a force after him, saying, destroy Abdullah in six days. Do not let him go free.
25. Now the force which Yazid sent after Abdullah was led by Amr, who was the brother of Abdullah. Now the force was conquered and Amr was captured and brought before his brother, Abdullah.
26. Then Abdullah said to Amr, I do not want you to die in my hands because we are brothers, of the same blood. Now if you wish, you may join us in the fight against Yazid and the Ummayads.
27. Now Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr said, if you do not join me, then you shall be put to death. Then Amr was beheaded in Mecca and the news of the death of Amr sent fear into the mind of Yazid.
28. Now Abdullah, the son of al-Zubayr sent a young woman to the court of Yazid, saying, make sure that you take the life of Yazid, for I know that he loves beautiful women.
29. Now Kubrat, the daughter of Maroof went to the place of Yazid and enticed him. Then Yazid went in with her and had sex with her. Then Kubrat poisoned him and he began to fall sick.
30. Now when Yazid was dying, he chose his firstborn son, Muawiyah, who was only eighteen years old to replace him. And he said to him, take Kubrat as your wife because I have promised her to you earlier.
31. So Kubrat became the wife of Muawiyah the son of Yazid, but she still followed the order of Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr.
32. Now Yazid died in the third year of his reign as the caliph at the age of thirty six years and eight months. Then his son Muawiyah became the caliph.
33. When Abdullah heard that Muawiyah who was only eighteen years old had been made caliph, he laughed and said, this is a child's play. Can a little boy bear the weight of a caliph and not be broken down to pieces?
34. Even Ali his grandfather had to wait for over twenty years before he could taste that seat, how much more his grandson who knew nothing about politics? May Allah not grant me Aljana if he remains the caliph for up to a year.
35. Now Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr sent message to Kubrat, saying, do your work again and send Muawiyah the son of Yazid to his early grave. So Kubrat went and poisoned Muawiyah also and he began to fall sick like his father. Then he died shortly after.
36. In those days, Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr had declared himself as the caliph in Mecca and he had supporters. Now to make himself well established as the caliph to the people of Iraq, he made Musab his brother the governor of Basra.
Islam › Re: The History Of Islam: For Afospecialk To See by OtemAtum(op): 7:15pm On Aug 11, 2019
Chapter Eleven
1. After the death of Muawiyah, his son Yazid became the caliph. Then the Shias did not regard him as the caliph, saying, this is the son of the rebellious one. For Muawiyah his father was called the rebellious ones because he contended with Ali and his son Hasan while they were caliphs.
2. Now among those who did not recognize him as the caliph were Muhsin, Kazim, Awf, Mamun; all these were of the tribe of Quraysh. Abdullah the son of Umar, Hussein the son of Ali and Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr, being of the tribe of Hejaz resisted him.
3. Now Yazid called a meeting of his tribespeople and said, we are all of the same tribe, let us not be divided. Now Abdullah the son of Umar heard the sayings of Yazid and gave up his opposition, saying, Yazid cannot be there without the knowing of Allah.
4. Now about five hundred opposers of Yazid changed their minds against him because of Abdullah the son of Umar who had changed his stance against Yazid. Now Yazid thought, saying, if I can also get the favour of Hussein the son of Ali, then I shall have rest on all sides.
5. So he invited Hussein to his court and said, I will offer you a great position. Only declare me as the caliph in your stronghold. Now Hussein said, for a hundred thousand dirhem will I not shift my view of you.
6. The seat which you occupy is not for you, nor for your lineage. It belongs to us according to the dictate of Mohammed the founder of Islam.
7. Now Yazid said, I know that you are stubborn, son of Ali. Where did you hear it that the seat of the caliph belong to your lineage? Are you more qualified for it than us? What makes you entitled to the seat more than us?
8. Now Hussein son of Ali, my father has said to me, do not kill openly, else I would have killed you right before my face. But I know that your people shall fight back. But know this; you shall die in a lower spirit. Have you found out how your brother died? In like manner shall you die too.
9. Now Yazid allowed Hussein go. Then he arranged people to go and lay a siege to hid house before he got there.
10. Now Hussein, being a clever person, did not go towards his home, rather, he went to the Hejazites in the place where they were gathered in Mecca. There he began to raise a rebel group, including the son of al-Zubayr.
11. Then they began to move towards Kufa, saying, we shall terrorise Kufa until we shall be well known.
12. Now Yazid had been told, saying, Hussein is coming to Kufa with some terrorists. Then Yazid sent his army, saying, do not let them see the walls of Kufa let alone coming close to it.
13. Let none of them escape the mouth of the sword. Strike their leader dead and let the ground be covered with blood.
14. So the army of Yazid went and waylaid the rebels of Hussein and killed them at the time when they were not ready, such that none of them escaped except five people. Hussein also was killed, but Abdullah the son of al-Zubayr and few others escaped.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 6:45pm On Aug 11, 2019
Ochyes:
Let us fear God. If we truly fear God, we wouldn't disrespect and slander His messengers.
God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah and Allah isn't something to be feared. All these small small gods such as Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda, El etc are the ones looking for who should be scared of them but that era is gradually coming to an end.

Fear no god.

Eta-ntagba 14: 1-3
1. If the scribes have said that the fear of a god is the beginning of knowledge, I have come to say otherwise;
2. Therefore I say, the fear of a god is the beginning of stupidity.
3. For that same god whom you fear to death is the mock song of other people.
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyedepo Vs Herdsmen: Can Daddy "Dumb" Freeze & Co Answer This? by OtemAtum: 6:37pm On Aug 11, 2019
datasthmagirl:
It works. God confirms words of his servants.
Prayers and curses work like gamble. When the odds are high with a good probability, you can get lucky. Oyedepo's curses or prayers don't have any effect on the herdsmen. A good government is what can work.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 6:22pm On Aug 11, 2019
Kay25:
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You don't have it. Okay if you have it can you tell me who created Jehovah your god? I have the answer. God Almighty created him and it is well documented in the book of Universal History, but you don't know this. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 2:49pm On Aug 11, 2019
[quote author=Kay25 post=81153787][/quote]This is what I wish you too. The truth about God Almighty the creator of Jehovah your god shall be revealed to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum: 1:17pm On Aug 11, 2019
ronyman:
Pictures of your brain pls
So you're trying to compare Jehovah your god with a nairalander human brain? Oh, that's too cheap of you to do. Anyways, Jehovah is currently in a vacuum called spiritual cage, therefore it's never gonna be possible to get a picture of him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum: 1:15pm On Aug 11, 2019
elijahkayode:
Each man with his
That's how it had always been. Each person worshipping his god, but such in the days of ignorance. The days of Knowledge are here when God Almighty, the creator of all these gods you humans have been worshipping is being revealed. These days, people will be replacing religion with science and will know better about what God Almighty is and what it is not.
Even more importantly, people will start realising how impotent their gods such as Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda, El etc have become, because currently they are held in their spiritual cage. Peace.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum: 12:50pm On Aug 11, 2019
elijahkayode:
You keep on blaspheming your Creator, It's a terrible reality you are living in, what u have is unspritual, How can u be so blind (enlightened fool)
Kayode, I am very sorry for you that you don't know the truth. How I wish the light of God Almighty could open the secret of the universe to you and then you'll see Jehovah your god in his spiritual cage and say, TRULY, God Almighty, the Creator of Jehovah is the totality of Existence. May you not die in your ignorance, knowing the truth about Jehovah your puny god here on earth before the afterlife. Peace.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet God by OtemAtum: 12:14pm On Aug 11, 2019
IamPlato:
Since You Worship Atum, why Not Allow Us Worship Jehovah in Peace...



By The Way Give Me The Link To That thread You Created About Atum or Whatever
I don't worship Atum. I don't worship any god. I only work in collaboration with Atum to reveal the truth to the world, that's all.
The truth is that Science and its gods have captured Jehovah, Allah, Moloch and their likes in a spiritual cage for the renewing of the minds of humanity. May the Light of God Almighty which created Yahweh your god reveal this to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by OtemAtum: 10:38am On Aug 11, 2019
victorazyvictor:
I pity your mother.
I pity your god Jehovah. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Law Of Karmal How It Works by OtemAtum: 8:11am On Aug 11, 2019
It's called Law of Karma, please edit your topic.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 8:05am On Aug 11, 2019
It's now 2 years, 11 months, 2 weeks and 3 days since Jehovah has been captured in his spiritual prison. Eyes keep opening.

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