Christianity Etc › Re: What Do People Mean When They Say Somebody Is Too Churchy For Their Liking? by OtemAtum: 6:30pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
chatinent: I hear this a lot.
What is the actual meaning?
Do they mean they hate people with high morals? Or don't like people who'd stoop to their inclinations? Morality and church are not synonymous. Many bad people are found in the church. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:23pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
Elanozy: Another evidence of your irresponsible tendencies towards a vomit that should be detested by your children Hellvictorinho, why are you becoming very aggressive in this manner na? Abeg jeje o  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:22pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
Elanozy: I await your worst!!!
Do your worst!!!! Shuo!!! You go fight person wey no fight you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:05pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Using labels to describe people when it doesn't really describe them only shows the kind of person you are.
So far you have not been able to prove any superior intellect other than to engage in self deception.
Those who don't know anything or have limited knowledge are quick to label others as ignorant while those who truly know are loath to do so because they know that inspite of what they think they know they can't know it all. To be ignorant of something isn't an evil label. It simply means you are ignorant of what Otem had compiled, that's all. I'm not saying that you are an ignoramus in other walks of life o. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:03pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
Elanozy: There's no reason why people like that bastard you are quoting do all they can to make people feel they are against themselves
It's of no use trying to determine why certain things happen
All such bastards can do is to call people names,mock them,turn statements of people upside down,twist,divert from messages towards them, claim knowledge and understanding in vain
Feeling special in vain
They claim others lie while they say the truth
It's of no use trying to determine why life involves such drama
Such people can only make claims in vain Ahn Ahn, Hellvictorinho, the embolden is very harsh na. Nobody deserves this on a faceless forum, have  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:01pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: I almost forgot he is in the habit of twisting and turning in order to create confusion in ones mine so you don't pin him down on anything. Thank you Hell, it's been a while. How are you doing? Edited: I meant to quote Elanozy |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 5:44pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
budaatum: I can not help wonder what is wrong with you! 
Why would you be arguing with those who have not bothered to read what you've been writing for years now? Can people who have not read a book understand what's in a book they never read? Don't mind me jare. Sometimes I just like to catch cruise with ignorant people. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 3:09pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Stick to one thing and don't turn it to an English language class .
When you struggle to understand the word coincidence which budatum up there wants to make you understand better, what do you want to teach anyone about English words and meaning.
You have made your disciple to start insulting with all of these.
Good day bro Sometimes when the ignorant ones think they are making points, we just have to leave them to their own fate. If you check all my posts, you will see that I don't shift any goalpost. I support my arguments in every aspect. If it comes in form of English Language, I defend it. If you bring it in form of science, I defend it as well. That's what you call 'not sticking to one thing?' Na wa o. So you expect me not to clarify things when you deliberately or ignorantly misquote me? That's impossible na  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hurray! It's The 5th Year Anniversary Of Jehovah And Allah's Imprisonment by OtemAtum(op): 3:02pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
BigCowH0rn: Really?
You know, there's this theory that all you crazies coming up with all kinds of anti-religious belief systems are just sex freaks looking for a free playing ground.
That's so true of Sisterfire and now you are opening my eyes to the same reality, Lol
You remind me of the moniker SmellySperm
 I'll like to know about the origin of the theory. I want to check something  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 2:39pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Coming from someone who claims to understand English language. Big shame.
is it any surprise you don't understand what the word coincidence means.
"Practising" is not a verb but a concrete noun according to you?
Big shame I never said practising is a noun bro. Check again and you will see that I used the 'gerund phrase' called 'Practising Religion'. Check for the meaning of 'Gerund' pls. In my context, 'Practising Religion' is a 'Noun Phrase'. And back to my statement, I was trying to establish if you meant that it is a concrete noun or not. Now back to my question, do you mean that the noun phrase 'Practising Religion' is Concrete or abstract? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 1:53pm On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Just look at what you did up there
Why separating the words in the phrase "practice of religion"
So you dont know that the meaning of a word is determined by the context in which it is used? So practising religion is now a concrete now abi  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 11:16am On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Any kind of power comes from something.
Unless you're using the word in a figurative sense, coincidence is not an object that can produce any power.
There's a plausible explanation for the phenomenon displayed by pastors and witch doctors. The power of coincidence doesn't explain it all as there is no such power.
If a pastor says the power of God is behind what he does and you say ,no, that it is the power of coincidence, what is the difference?
Are both of you not thinking the same way and saying the same thing?
Yes, I think you're So now you've agreed with me that the Power of 'God' supposedly used by the pastors is actually the 'Power of Coincidence'. Now we are saying the same thing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 11:14am On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: How is the practice of religion abstract? Is practice a concrete now? Practice- abstract noun Religiob- abstract now So how will you call PRACTICE OF RELIGION concrete  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 9:45am On Sep 28, 2021*. Modified: 11:17am On Sep 28, 2021 |
paltielx: Yahweh, also Jehovah is never in prison and will never be. He is the creator of all things and sovereign Ruler of the universe Maybe you should find a way to ask him this. I am connected to the gods of science and I'm very certain he wouldn't be let out so soon. It has been declared by the thummims that he will spend 1000 years in the spiritual cage and it's barely 5 years now. So what are you saying  |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 9:41am On Sep 28, 2021 |
@Triplechoice, you said that abstract words don't have power, but here is what justme have to day about religion(abstract word) Jusme1: I agree with you, but also know that all these are the effect of religion, religion is a powerful tool of enslavement, it damage your intelligence and minds So do you agree that religion is a POWERFUL TOOL OF ENSLAVEMENT, even though it is something abstract? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 9:30am On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: It is true that everything on earth has energy but it is not true that mere words which are not tangible materials have energy.
The word coincidence merely represent an abstract idea. It is not the same with the word , leaf , which is used to name a visible object in nature. While we can measure for the power of falling leaf which we can see we can't do so for coincidence because it merely represents an abstract idea which has no one to one correspondence with any physical object in nature.
You don't seem to have a full understanding of the word coincidence and it is a problem.
Coincidence does not cause anything. The word is only use when we can't find any apparent cause for any strange happenings or pattern in nature. If mere words don't have power, what happen to hypnotism, religious texts used to make people submissive, placebo, etc? There's nothing that doesn't have potential power, no matter how little they could be. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 8:09am On Sep 28, 2021 |
@TripleChoice, below is the definition of POWER. Now can you tell me if this power is not what pastors, alfas and herbalists ride on? I mean sometimes, pastors, alfas and herbalists say some things and it happened by coincidence. Because of this coincidences, they influence their followers and make then believe that they did it by their own powers(check the second definition of power in the dictionary below). Now tell me if there is no power of coincidence. Concerning the results below, assuming somebody had said perchance that Liverpool and Chelsea will have similar results and it happened so, if the person is a pastor, Alfa, imam or herbalists, don't you think he would have influenced the minds of his followers by the power of coincidence? That's what I am talking about.
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Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 7:53am On Sep 28, 2021 |
triplechoice: Several times in the past you have used that same story as explanation .
What ever you say, there is nothing like the power of coincidence.
Coincidence has no power. It is non causal. There is nothing on Earth that doesn't have power. Even a leaf hanging up on a tree has potential energy. If the leaf start to fall, then you can measure its power with physics. It also contains Chemical power in chemistry. When coincidence makes you think that you have achieved things by your own power, then that's the power of coincidence. Upon what luck do you think herbalists and pastors ride? Upon the power of coincidence of course. Now back to Luwabi and myself using his quote, the op was assuming Luwabi as the authority, probably because I used his quote somewhere, but I was letting him know that using his quote doesn't mean that he is an authority. I may decide to use the quote of Abraham Lincoln, it doesn't mean that I buy 100% into his philosophy. It may just be that I only agree to 1% of his philosophy and I can actually quote that 1% as many times as I like. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 7:38am On Sep 28, 2021 |
Jehovah has spent 5 years, 1 month and 5 days in his spiritual cage. Many are losing their religion daily. Mind slavery is gradually fading.
R.I.P to the victims of Soldiers' Brutality at the Lekki Toll Gate. It's 11 months, 1 week and 6 days since the death of the GREAT YOUTHS |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 2:40pm On Sep 26, 2021 |
triplechoice: Then you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence.
Coincidence is non causal
It is not something that caused something neither does it have any power.
When people used the word , coincidence, they used it to mean something that happens by chance or accident
Honestly , the reason I am engaging you on this is simply because you're contradicting what you wrote in your book.
The story of lawumi and the covered pot in UFOS explains the power inherent in belief as the reason for certain miraculous occurrence.
So why this?
Hope you have not forgotten what you compiled? You didn't see read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. If you did, you won't submerge yourself in the philosophy of anyone on earth to the extent of saying that the story of Someone explained the reason for something. The story of Luwabi is written by Luwabi and it is not supposed to explain 100% life occurrences. Also the belief of Luwabi and the belief of Nemonis in the same book of Universal History are not supposed to go along with each other because the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is not a book that is fighting towards humanity holding on to a particular belief, but it is a book which only gives life occurrences as they happened. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Yahweh Is Still In His Spiritual Cage by OtemAtum(op): 12:46pm On Sep 26, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 12:39pm On Sep 26, 2021 |
triplechoice: You're still coming up with the same thing which doesn't explain anything. Let me paraphrase your reply below so you understand what I mean.
"The power of abracadabra is a natural power.It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works".
Hope you can see what you're doing?
If you can't understand how exactly a power works or know anything about it, why use it to explain an occurrence that defies logic and be so sure of it?
Don't you think you're doing the god of the gaps by imagining something as a cause of an occurrence you don't understand or know why it happens?
Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word coincidence or you have a different meaning of your own.
Please define the word coincidence in your next reply so I know we are on the same page If you don't understand, then go and research on google for the meaning of Coincidence. I am not an English teacher. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Authority Of Otem Over Yahweh And Allah by OtemAtum(op): 12:32pm On Sep 26, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: God Can Do Without Us, BUT..... by OtemAtum: 12:12pm On Sep 26, 2021*. Modified: 12:35pm On Sep 26, 2021 |
dinomcjohn: Yahweh is God Almighty, the Creator of the Universe. For confirmation, if you believe in the Bible, read the verses below. The Biblical God, the God we read in the Bible, Tanakh and Quran is God Almighty. He was never created. He has no beginning and no ending. Beginning and ending are inside Him. All things come from Him. He contains existence and all things. There is no existence, life or anything without JEHOVAH. When you think of the Almighty God who created all the other small gods, think of YAHWEH, the God of the Israelites, my God and your God, even if you may not believe. Do you still doubt that YAHWEH is God Almighty? Read on. In the whole of recorded human history and as we see in the Bible, the LORD God Almighty, whose name is YAHWEH has proven beyond doubt that He alone is God and there is none like Him. Of course other tribes can call Him several names like Olodumare in Yoruba. Now if the Jews call Him YAHWEH and the Yorubas call Him Olorun while the Igbos call him Chukwu and the Zulus call Him Unkulunkulu, we all refer to the supreme Being who nothing can be higher than. The God who in Himself contains the totality and finality of existence. All glory be to God Almighty forever. Nehemiah 9:6, Gen 1:1, Isaiah 66:2 "For my hand made all these things. Thus all things came into being", declares the LORD. Note the the term "" The LORD"" is used several times in the Bible instead of "YAHWEH" because the Jews consider the name of God sacred and should not be used commonly. If you make a little effort to read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY, you will see exactly how God Almighty created everything, including how it created Yahweh your god and all other earthly gods you worship. You will also see the reason why these little little gods like Yahweh, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Moloch etc tussle for religious power. Eventually you will see how the gods of science have put Yahweh, Allah and thousands of religious gods into a spiritual cage so as to usher in the Aquarius Age where everything is done and performed scientifically. May the Light of God Which created Yahweh your god reveal the truth to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Good Character Have You Developed Since You Started Attending Your Church? by OtemAtum: 9:56am On Sep 26, 2021 |
It's only by determination and self discipline that you can develop good character. Going to church doesn't make anyone good, better, bad or worse. As a matter of fact, we have good atheists and bad christians all over the world. Sometimes it could also be vice-versa. There are many bad pastors' wife than good ones, some people who get their salaries from pastors' wife can relate to this. To be good in life, you have to work on your conscience. Be a humanist. Always be sympathetic, determine to be good. See yourself as a helper, but don't let them see you as a maga. Discarding religion has actually helped me to be a better person in life anyways, contrary to the purpose of this topic. It could be the other way round for some people though. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 9:55am On Sep 26, 2021 |
Jehovah has spent 5 years, 1 month and 3 days in his spiritual cage. Many are losing their religion daily. Mind slavery is gradually fading.
R.I.P to the victims of Soldiers' Brutality at the Lekki Toll Gate. It's 11 months, 1 week and 4 days since the death of the GREAT YOUTHS. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Can Do Without Us, BUT..... by OtemAtum: 9:32am On Sep 26, 2021 |
We humans are part of God Almighty. God will be incomplete without us. We are a subset of God Almighty. Seeing that you are referring to God as Yahweh, the god of ancient Israelites, I have something else to say and this is it; Yahweh is a local god and not God Almighty. God Almighty is the Totality of Existence and Yahweh, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Olorun and all these gods you humans worship happen to be an insignificant part of God Almighty. Humans like you and me are also parts of God Almighty. Read the Book of MCC 1:14 from the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY and you will see how Yahweh your god, Allah the Muslim god, Vishnu the Indian god, Buddha the Chinese god, Olorun the Yoruba god, Nzame the Ghanaian god and many other gods were created by God Almighty, the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE. MCC 1: 14 . Now the names of some of these beings (created by God Almighty) are Knoliud, Miklas, Urim, Chimides, Chaleb, Eartum who is also called Atum, Largas, who is also called Allah, ..., Yahweh(Jehovah), Wanyioyi,... Abassi, Nzame, Nyame; https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/ |
Christianity Etc › Re: Win 2.5 Million Naira If You Can Prove That Juju/god Is Real by OtemAtum: 5:50pm On Sep 25, 2021 |
A001: Hope you get to cure your foolishness someday. If Otem is the cause of your misfortune, then you're on a long thing.
If you want to be a disciple of someone that doesn't want discipleship or someone you have never seen and doesn't even want you to meet him, then your case don pass critical.
Understand the meaning of words before you use them: no one serves as a disciple of a person they've never met or can never meet.
Grow up! This response is apt. I don't know why people think that life is all about discipleship. Can't everybody have his own mind again? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 2:31am On Sep 24, 2021 |
OkaiCorne: Interesting, so we are even from the same state.
Lol.
Nice one.
If you're interested in understanding basic Igala, I'll gladly be of help.
Cheers. U gbigala yanyan ajoyi, omaye mi. Odu igala mi shi Onukuojo. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 2:13am On Sep 24, 2021 |
triplechoice: You have not answered the questions I asked.
What is the power of coincidence or define it. How exactly does it work to cause miracles or the pattern of results you listed?
Your reply does not make any sense to me.
I can as well say that the power of abracadabra is the reason miracles happens.
And just as you have written above, I could also say the power of abracadabra is intertwined in nature and then go on to write the same meaningless sentences which doesn't explain anything.
How does the power of coincidence work since you say it is responsible for those patterns observed? The power of Coincidence is a natural power. It is not a power you and I possess. It is like asking me how the power of nature works. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:17am On Sep 23, 2021 |
triplechoice: What is the power of coincidence?
How exactly does it work to cause Chelsea and Liverpool to have the same pattern of results in the first few weeks of the English football season? Power of Coincidence is already intertwined into nature at the beginning of existence. It's a kind of 'whatever will be will be.' But the religionists think that things that be are because of their prayers, not knowing that they must just be, with or without their prayers. If someone is to survive cancer, with or without prayers, he will survive it, but the religionists will pray over all cancer cases and then maybe one out of 40 patients will survive it and they think that it is their prayers that worked. They are not aware that some irreligious people have survived it too. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If This Happened In Religion, They Will Call It Jazz Or Miracle by OtemAtum(op): 6:13am On Sep 23, 2021 |
hupernikao: Weldone Sir. Is it the same book that helped you to be making assumptions and generalization beyond what your experience knew?
Your OP is obviously from your functional experiences and it's flawed as your thoughts about religion is inaccurate. Take that to the learning table again. What makes you think that they are mere assumptions? This is a book that has vividly exposed the lies of all religions and has revealed the spiritual cage of your god Jehovah, the Muslim god Allah and other gods of religion and there is no god here or anywhere that can contest it. Check for facts in the book and be enlightened. |