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Christianity Etc › Re: Train Crushes CAN Chairman To Death In Taraba ( What Will Be Freeze Response?) by OtemAtum: 8:27pm On Mar 25, 2018
RIP
Christianity Etc › Re: Would Heaven Not Be Boring? by OtemAtum: 8:21pm On Mar 25, 2018
josh123:
read ur bible and ask ur pastor same question
Read the Doctufos(Universal History Book) and ask yourself same question.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Anything Like Untimely Death? by OtemAtum: 8:17pm On Mar 25, 2018
Penalty82:
YES if he had remained in the grave.
fictitious characters don't die real death let alone staying in a grave.
Christianity Etc › Re: Would Heaven Not Be Boring? by OtemAtum: 8:12pm On Mar 25, 2018
josh123:
However one will not be bored,the only thing that will get bored is our flesh and we wont take it to heaven
flesh gets tired, but mind gets bored. The OP is right, some afterlives are very boring and they need to be upgraded.
Christianity Etc › Re: Sacred Iroko Tree On A Killing Spree After It Was Cut Down By Pastor In Benin by OtemAtum: 8:06pm On Mar 25, 2018
If this story has any iota of truth in it, then it isn't strange as many have believed worst things in the past and died of their beliefs. See below for the history of the 'untouchable grapes' of the 'gods.

Doctufos: Homo sapiens III 24:4-34


4. In those days, it was a belief that whoever tasted the grapes would die of a very strange disease.
5. This superstition had spanned fifteen centuries without anyone in the land checking if it was true.
6. There had also been tales of twenty-three people who had died of diseases when they took the grapes.
7. This was the story told from generation to generation to keep the inquisitive children and youths of the land away from the tree.
8. In those days, Staphylos followed after one of the priests of the gods until he had entered the bush.
9. Then he saw how the priest climbed the tree and plucked the grapes, squeezing the water in it into his mouth.
10. When Staphylos discovered this, he hid in the bush until the priest had sucked ten of the grapes and departed.
11. When a hunter came close and found the remnants of the eaten grapes, he knelt before the grape tree and praised all the gods of the land, saying, the gods are satisfied with the land by eating our grapes.
12. When Staphylos saw the hunter, he approached him and said, a man like you and me ate the grapes and not the gods.
13. The hunter was angry, saying, young man, why do you not have respect for the gods of the land? Do you want their wraths to come upon you?
14. Who can stand the wrath of Katakhthonios our god? Who can survive the anger of Zeus?
15. Now young man, fall before the tree of the gods and seek the forgiveness of the gods for equating them with humans like us.
16. When Staphylos heard him, he smiled and departed.
17. Now in the day when dionysus his father celebrated the day of wine, there was shortage of wine.
18. Then dionysus said, I have experienced something like this in the past which I can not clearly remember.
19. But I was not disgraced in those days because I made more wine and the people drank to their satisfaction.
20. But these days I do not know how I made such wine. Now my son Staphylos, what do you think? Should I send the people away because of shortage of wine?
21. Staphylos said, let them wait, father, for the gods shall give us wine in surplus.
22. So Staphylos went and fetched many grapes. Then he squeezed their water into many pots and gourds and mixed some wine with them. Then he brought them to the people.
23. Now everyone wondered when they saw that which they supposed was wine. Then they were amazed when they had tasted it.
24. And they loved its taste more than the taste of the wine which they had earlier.
25. The priest whom Staphylos saw sucking the grapes arose and said, this is not wine but the grapes of the gods.
26. Now the people feared greatly that they would die. Then they began to ask Staphylos if the saying of the priest was true.
27. Then Staphylos said, why do you ask me when you should have asked the priest how he knows the taste of the grapes of the gods?
28. Now they asked the priest and he could not reply a word. Then he departed in disappointment.
29. However, the people continued to ask Staphylos fearfully if the wine contained grape juice, then he said, you have well spoken.
30. Truly it is the juice of the gods, but we are free to taste it now because the gods are not interested in the food and drinks of humans, because they have their own food and drinks in their realms.
31. But of a truth, it is the priests of the gods who suck the grapes ever since.
32. When Staphylos had ended his saying, many reasoned with him, but some remained fearful and died of the fear of being killed by the gods.
33. Now when Staphylos prospered continually, the people loved and adored him. Then he was deified as the god of grapes and wine, because he was one who made the people drink grape juice mixed with wine.
34. So the worship of Staphylos as the god of grapes and wine lasted for many centuries and even overshadowed the worship of his father dionysus who first discovered wine.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meet Pastor Joshua Momodu: "A Witch Visited My House As Bat" (Video) by OtemAtum: 7:40pm On Mar 25, 2018
Maycher:
Anybody that still doesn't believe that witches and wizards exist is just being myopic.

Sometimes I ask myself this question; does it mean that these foolish witches and wizards are happy with how the country is and those idiots ruining the country? Is the economic situation not affecting them or even their immediate or extended familiies?

Can't they just strike Buhari and his thieving cronies down? Instead na one innocent daughter-in-law or one son-in-law wey dy yankie dem dy use exercise their powers. Foolish lots!!
undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 11:13am On Mar 25, 2018
johnw47:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Okay, keep it up.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum:
OkCornel:
Just a quick one please.

The names I highlighted reminds me of something cheesy

Were they really gods or perhaps these were included erroneously huh

Even Fela was included...

I have another question on some other names... (but I'll ask that much later)
Names are not monopolised. These people were deified in the past and forgotten at present. If you know anyone bearing that name at present, they could have existed in the past or it could be a case of namesake. Twenty people can bear the same name, it doesn't necesarily mean they are same people. Among those names you circled, I am familiar with Fela and Gatusso in our concurrent time, but I haven't really checked if they are the same as the famous musician and footballer of our time respectively because there is no time to check right now.

Edited: I'm still trying to understand what you mean but I can tell you that all these characters existed about at least 10,000 years ago. They are not physically our contemporaries but there could be possibility that some of them are reincarnated into our contemporary time and you happen to know them.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 11:37pm On Mar 24, 2018
johnw47:
u forever confused
u quoted my post but did not reply to your contradictions pointed out there, but instead changed the topic, ran away,
u do that all the time otem, it's your signature

of course i'm not throwing questions,
there is nothing at all that you could tell me
no truth that is

1Ti_4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
There was no contradiction in my posts.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 8:23am On Mar 24, 2018

Christianity Etc › Re: Worldy Music: Compiled By Otem From Billions Of Years Forward by OtemAtum(op): 8:07am On Mar 24, 2018
A song of Pais: The Kind of World I want To Be
1. I am here in the world, in the world of war and pain. Yet I seek only peace, only peace to reign in it. From the sky let it rain, let it rain showers of peace. Let it soak everyone, everyone on earth I wish.

2. The kind of world I want to be should not have war but peace all day. In the day in the dark, peace and love should light it up. Bring my wish nature's wind, let peace come and let it stay. Peace of mind for all on earth is my wish for the earthly ones.

3. Fearfulness and fierce evil threats, so fierce to chase mind peace away; Do not be the portion of...of the people born to my land. Nature bless their thinking tools, thinking tools in their torso. Let no threat of where their souls will go turn them to sheep for other souls.

4. The kind of world I want to be should not have war but peace all day. In the day in the dark, peace and love should light it up. Bring my wish nature's wind, let peace come and let it stay. Peace of mind for all on earth is my wish for the earthly ones.

5. We've heard of holy wars, wars fought for the gods they serve. Ritual killings and slavery, killings of fellow humankind. All these things do not fit, not befitting the world I seek. Wars and fightings I detest, I detest them with my soul.

6. The kind of world I want to be should not have war but peace all day. In the day in the dark, peace and love should light it up. Bring my wish, nature's wind, let peace come and let it stay. Peace of mind for all on earth is my wish for the earthly ones.

A Song of Aditi: My Fantasy World
4. I see myself as the personification of nature. I tell the people I'm the mother of their gods. I was immersed into nature in my lovely fantasy. I became one with nature when I study it deep.

5. If nature is a part of God and I become one with nature, how am I wrong to declare myself as the mother of the gods? Time we exist on earth does not matter, we are all products of God's fantasy. I see the world also as my fantasy World.

6. The birds of the earth I see are perching on the lovely moon. The little pollen grains of Gowa flying into the sky. The rains that drop upon the earth are the sweat of nature. I have become one with nature when I go into it.

7. If nature is a part of God and I become one with nature, how am I wrong to declare myself as the mother of the gods? Time we exist on earth does not matter, we are all products of God's fantasy. I see the world also as my fantasy World.

8. I use my inner world experience to shapen my outer world. My inner universe becomes what I make my physicality be. There's nothing like the fear of any god deep in my soul world. I replicate the fearlessness on here and I become a goddess.

9. If nature is a part of God and I become one with nature, how am I wrong to declare myself as the mother of the gods? Time we exist on earth does not matter, we are all products of God's fantasy. I see the world also as my fantasy World.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 7:47am On Mar 24, 2018
johnw47:
ha ha you can never answer what is said to you otem but run away from it
and your replies are copycat of things said to you:
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

duh, so much for the light of your god reverad, he cannot give you answers or even inspire you with something sensible and original to say

run otem run
For your mind now, you have won cheesy grin
You are not throwing questions na. Are you? Okay, what is your question?
Christianity Etc › Re: "Does God Exist?" Resounding No by OtemAtum: 7:35am On Mar 24, 2018
stephendamsoho:
We're now questioning the nonsense we've been fed by the Society and this bodes well for the future
abi o
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 2:53am On Mar 24, 2018
johnw47:
since satan-reverad is the father of lies and it's book doctoredfos is full of lies
then it's no wonder that you otem are also full of lies

you could not address the contradictions of your god satan and his book doctoredfos and you in saying satan is yahweh, and then saying the devil is not a personality but is people when they are bad, laughing

and so you rambled off topic to my post like a good little deceiver running away at full speed
Only the light of God Almighty can reveal the truth to you. The book of Yahweh and his priests have blinded your inner eyes to the truth. I wish the truth is known to you soon.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Times Was Man Created By God? by OtemAtum: 4:20pm On Mar 23, 2018
CuteMadridista:
Yeah, we face life head on rather than depend on some god to come to our rescue or help us
You're doing what the song-writer below did:

Doctufos: Worldly Music 19:21

21. We are the brain users, we do things after
thinking it through. We don't wait to hear a god
speaking, before we do what we want to do. We
meditate to make our brains clear. We decide on
whatever is best. And we always get a positive
results. We've got the big brains.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Times Was Man Created By God? by OtemAtum: 4:12pm On Mar 23, 2018
kestino:
that means you leave your life as you see it unfold?
He lives his life like himself rather than living it like someone else.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 4:00pm On Mar 23, 2018
johnw47:
otem, see how confused you, the doctoredfos, and everbad-reverad the devil is

you said that satan is yahweh
however reverad said through it's book doctoredfos There is no devil as a personality










otem, your god reverad is satan the devil, and doctufos is it's book, and you otem are it's disciple

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev_20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
You don't know what God is. if you know, you won't be equating God with Satan(Yahweh). Yahweh is just an insignificant and 'soon to be forgotten' fragment of what is called GOD ALMIGHTY. God is COMPLEX for you to understand for now. Maybe you should be more mature before discussing it, so that you won't see GOD ALMIGHTY as a two-legged humanlike being like Yahweh your god. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 3:56pm On Mar 23, 2018
johnw47:
otem, see how confused you, the doctoredfos, and everbad-reverad the devil is

you said that satan is yahweh
however reverad said through it's book doctoredfos There is no devil as a personality










otem, your god reverad is satan the devil, and doctufos is it's book, and you otem are it's disciple

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev_20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 6:31am On Mar 23, 2018
johnw47:
truly you know nothing at all about the truth

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
You don't know what exactly the devil is called. Read below and learn:

Doctufos: Eta-ntagba 17:1-3
1. There is no devil as a personality.
2. Every time you do bad, you are momentarily a
devil.
3. But when you do good, your goodness shall turn
you back to your natural self.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 12:55am On Mar 23, 2018
Three

Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 12:15am On Mar 23, 2018
Chapter Two
1. From the 101st millennium to the 200th millennium of the homo sapiens era,eight thousand and nineteen humans have emerged and were worshipped as gods and goddesses in Africa.
2. In Europe, twelve thousand and seventy-four had been worshipped within these periods. In Asia, there were seven thousand and fifty-six.
3. In Australia, there were five thousand and eighteen of them. In the South of America, three thousand and two were worshipped while four thousand and six were worshipped in the North of America.
4. Some of these people had previously existed, but they were reincarnated twice, three times and even more into the earth. Some of them returned as another person into another land, while some returned to the same land they occupied previously.
5. Some of them did things they did before, thereby making coincidental occurences more frequent on earth.
6.However, some others who were reincarnated on earth to bring back the rememberance of their names and stories were not able to do so.
7. Within these period, the people who fought against each other because of the differences in their gods had increased. The things which the homos knew had also increased.
8. Earthquakes, famine, attack of farmlands and greenlands by locusts and other insects did not also cease in those days, but inventions were made to reduce such things.
9. New mountains and rocks also emerged and nothing of nature which had happened in the past ceased to happen.
10. Eclipses and overflooding also occured more frequently within these period, because of the change which had taken place in many of the lands of the world.
11. The humans born with languages or those who acquired languages by meditation had become far more reduced compared to the homos of the first ten generations of the homo sapiens era.
12. This is so because there were already many languages on earth. But when the people continued to mix with people of other lands and places, dialects were formed.
13. However, the people within this period were neck-stretchers. They looked into the sky more often than those of the previous pentayear period.
14. In these period, more superstitions were made because of the falling stones and heavy rains which occured often, as well as the increase in the rate of death everywhere.
15. Many people began to farm within this period, because it appeared safer to them than hunting. However, those who continued in gathering of fruits were still very many.
16. There were many fights between the hunters, herdsmen, shepherds and the farmers of those days and territorialism increased.
17. In all these, the priests of religions did not decline, but they increased day by day, using their cleverness to cheat the people.
18. Then those who told stories trying to explain the occurences of natural disasters and sicknesses were also all over the place.
19. Towns and villages began to emerge within this pentayear also, which had specific rules, taboos, traditions and norms, because the people had entered the era where they feared attacks from others or from natural disasters.
20. Many were trained in the art of war, incantations, medicine and other things this period. However, ritual killings all over the world increased, as well as cannibals.
21. The people also told great things about their deities so as to instill fear in the minds of their little children and those who came to fight them.
22. In all these, gods and goddesses continued to be made and destroyed.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 12:13am On Mar 23, 2018
johnw47:
once again you have no understanding at all
and everything has to be explained to you

"nothing cute about you" is referring to what was said, not how one looks, oh duh
Why are you this harsh on me? Is it because I tell you the truth about Yahweh your god?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 11:46pm On Mar 22, 2018
johnw47:
nothing cute about you
Have you seen his pix?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity As Default Is Gone': The Rise Of A Non-christian Europe by OtemAtum: 4:30pm On Mar 22, 2018
CuteMadridista:
I was banned for a month for criticising Christianity
Dem knack you ban? Na so we dey see am o. Be happy it's not till 2028 grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 3:59pm On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
Let me see ancestors first before I know what to do, but meanwhile we have a very good history in the Bible is helping me right now. I think you should allow it to help you too
I was looking for Niger, Nigeria, Guinea, Ghana, Mali and Malawi in the Bible, but I didn't see them there. It wasn't helping me. Goodluck to you if it's helping you though.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Future Already Exists by OtemAtum: 3:22pm On Mar 22, 2018
Adspiramen 15:7
7. Every homo created has the future and the past in his brain. But these things shall be concealed from him until he has begun to use his brain.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 2:50pm On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
Will you deny that you don't take drugs or weed or something that makes you feel high?
If I take something of such nature, I won't deny taking it, but I can gladly tell you that I don't take alcohol or anything that will make me feel high. I don't even have a liking for smoking of any manner of thing. My spirit doesn't go with them.
What you see me doing, compiling histories of billions of years, will soon become easy for some Africans to do. Our ancestors are yearning to have their names remembered on earth again, so no fear if they start connecting to earthly people through dreams and trances to give histories of their lands to them.

The question is, if any of your ancestors, say the one who existed in 1800, appears to you in a dream and give you the history of your native land to write, will you be ready to do it?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Question To The Muslims by OtemAtum: 2:40pm On Mar 22, 2018
Hier:
grin grin

There is nothing to gain sir.

Missed yah though

Born again means you will be a different person order than who you are and you really need to have that awesome experience
Okay, yes I became born again in 2016 based on your definition. I was born into religion earlier, but I became irreligious in 2016.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 1:40pm On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
You mean you saw Jehovah. Bros I don't believe you. Things like this are as a result of drugs abuse.
If a man is inspired, people around, but who do not stay under the same roof with him will say that he is using drug or he is drunk. But the people he lives with, works with and goes about with will know that that isn't the case. I have even seen greater gods than Jehovah. Chimides, Chaleb, Knoliud, Miklas, Vishnu, Buddha and co. I have seen them, why are you now bothered about Jehovah among thousands of gods I've seen?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op):
terrezo2002:
Well, it seems you went to the wrong side of the spiritual world.
There is no wrong portion in the Universes of God Almighty. What seems wrong to you is not wrong to another person.
I went to the place where Yahweh and many of his friends were interacting. I saw them with my inner eyes. If I didn't see them, let death befall me in the night of today. Even Yahweh cannot debunk this claim, let alone you who haven't seen him. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 1:28pm On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
Well, it seems you went to the wrong side of the spiritual world.
There is no wrong portion in the Universes of God Almighty. What seems wrong to you is not wrong to another person.
I went to the place where Yahweh and many of his friends were interacting. Even Yahweh cannot debunk this claim. cool
Christianity Etc › Re: The Laughter Of Yahweh: I Am The Deceiver by OtemAtum(op): 1:20pm On Mar 22, 2018
terrezo2002:
How did you come to the conclusion that this is true?
From the experiences I had in the spiritual world and the correlation I did with the Doctufos world history book.

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