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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 4:21pm On Oct 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
At last you can see that there was no time God's servants were perfect except God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ.

So learn to acknowledge God's servants and appreciate them when they're doing God's will as long as you can't present a better option than them in fulfilling God's purpose.

Farewell! smiley
Hahahahaha

You can't even answer his questions.

See how you're running away with your tail between your legs.

😂😂😂

Emusan, more grease to your elbow bro.

NIV, Deuteronomy 18: 21, 22

21. You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?"

22. If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.
Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets, that is according to Deuteronomy 18: 21 & 22.

Here are some examples:

1. Jehovah's Witnesses prophesied that the world would end in 1914.

Did it take place or come true?

NO!

2. Jehovah's Witnesses prophesied that Abraham and other patriarchs would be resurrected in 1925 - they even bought a mansion called Beth Sarim to house them.

Did it take place or come true?

NO!!

3. Jehovah's Witnesses prophesied that the world would end in 1975.

Did it take place or come true?

NO!!!

😂😂😂
PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 7:01am On Oct 05, 2023
Minjim:
This is stale news now.

We have made to understand that independent bodies issue the certificate. That will account for why he said it's not from the institution
So why is the forged certificate in stark contrast to the original certificates presented as exhibits from Chicago State University?

Why is the logo wrong?

Why are the signatures wrong?

Why did the forged certificate mention a board of trustees when the university didn't have one?

Please go and read the Deposition for yourself and stop spreading misinformation.

The fact remains - TINUBU SUBMITTED A FORGED CERTIFICATE TO INEC.

Therefore, HE MUST BE DISQUALIFIED.

PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 6:31am On Oct 05, 2023
PassingShot:
Forged by who? Confirmed by who?

Headless mob everywhere grin grin grin grin
Continue defending evil.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

The evil you support today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

Go and read the Deposition for yourself.

Why did the Registrar of Chicago State University specifically state under oath that they couldn't authenticate the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC?
PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 6:21am On Oct 05, 2023
jahsharon:
Carry your gown and wig and join Atikulation Abubakar and Giringori Obituar's kindergarten lawyers at the Supreme Court
Continue defending evil.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

The evil you support today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.
PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 6:09am On Oct 05, 2023
PassingShot:
See twisting! grin grin grin

CSU simply confirmed BAT was there student, graduated with honours, as first among equals.

CSU allows licensed vendors to produce replacement certificates for their past graduates and they normally do not authenticate such docs because the transcript is what's more important and valued in the USA.
STAY FOCUSED ON THE MAIN ISSUE.

The main issue is this - TINUNBU SUBMITTED A FORGED CERTIFICATE TO INEC.

THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR!

TINUBU MUST BE DISQUALIFIED.

PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 6:07am On Oct 05, 2023
PassingShot:
Una be olodo who have deliberately decided to be unfortunate in life.
Continue defending evil.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

The evil you support today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.

The fact remains - TINUNBU SUBMITTED A FORGED CERTIFICATE TO INEC.

TINUBU MUST BE DISQUALIFIED.

THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR!

PoliticsRe: Stop The Falsehood: CSU Replacement Certificates Are Ordered From The School by oteneaaron(m): 6:04am On Oct 05, 2023
gabbytabby:
I guess the issue is now with his sex. The social security no confirm this.

Una just are so desperate and now clutching at straws like a mad lunatic.
STAY FOCUSED ON THE MAIN ISSUE.

Stop trying to deflect from the main issue.

TINUBU SUBMITTED A FORGED CERTIFICATE TO INEC - this is a FACT.

THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR.

Tinubu must be disqualified for submitting a forged certificate to INEC.

PoliticsRe: Stop The Falsehood: CSU Replacement Certificates Are Ordered From The School by oteneaaron(m): 6:01am On Oct 05, 2023
gabbytabby:
How can one authenticate something they have not seen.

Common sense is not so common.
Continue defending evil.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

Go and read the Deposition for yourself.

The forged certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC was an exhibit during the Deposition.

The evil you support today will come back to haunt you tomorrow.
PoliticsRe: Stop The Falsehood: CSU Replacement Certificates Are Ordered From The School by oteneaaron(m): 5:47am On Oct 05, 2023
gabbytabby:
In law there must be a misrepresentation and intention to defraud.
THERE ARE NO TECHNICALITIES TO EXPLORE.

THE CONSTITUTION IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.

If the Registrar of Chicago State University clearly stated under oath that they can not authenticate the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC, then it automatically means that the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC was FORGED.

Tinubu must be disqualified for submitting a forged certificate to INEC.

PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 5:39am On Oct 05, 2023
yinkus6750:
Controversy here and there.
Different versions balabluing the whole CSU certificate saga.
Which one is the real version ?
You can confirm the details for your self bro.

Please take some time off your busy schedule and read through the 218 pages of the Deposition for yourself.

Here is the link to the uncertified copy ==> https://www.scribd.com/document/675520235/Atiku-Abubakar-vs-CSU-Legal-Deposition-UNCERTIFIED-COPY

It is called uncertified copy because it still has some grammatical errors, remember this is a direct transcript of the Deposition.

The certified copy will be out soon where it will be easier to read and the grammatical errors would have been fixed.

The main point is that the Registrar of Chicago State University clearly stated under oath that they can't authenticate the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC.

If they can't authenticate it, then it means the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC was FORGED.
PoliticsRe: Stop The Falsehood: CSU Replacement Certificates Are Ordered From The School by oteneaaron(m): 5:33am On Oct 05, 2023
gabbytabby:
The koko of the matter is did he attend and graduate CSU and the answer is yes he did.

Does these fulfill the educational requirements for him to be voted for yes

Mischief makers can continue wailing
Nooo

The koko of the matter is that TINUBU SUBMITTED A FORGED CERTIFICATE TO INEC!!

THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR ON THIS MATTER!

Tinubu must be disqualified for submitting a forged certificate to INEC.

Stop defending evil.

Stop supporting certificate forgers.

The evil you support today will come back to haunt you.

PoliticsRe: CSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 5:21am On Oct 05, 2023
In case you missed it, here are some key takeaways from this article by Daily Post Nigeria:

Westberg, who is the Registrar of the university, speaking under oath, specifically told the court that he was seeing the Diploma certificate copy for the very first time in the instant proceedings.
For example, the witness admitted that the Institution had no board of trustees in 1979, as against the claim in the certificate Tinubu submitted to the electoral body.

When pressed on the signatures on other certificates issued in 1979 and the one Tinubu submitted to INEC, the witness admitted variations in signature, logo, and seal.

Specifically, Westberg pointed out that the signature on the replacement certificate of Tinubu matches certificates issued in the 1990s and not those of 1979, as claimed by the President.
PoliticsCSU: Certificate Tinubu Submitted To INEC Not Our Document - DailyPost by oteneaaron(op): 5:15am On Oct 05, 2023
By Fadehan Oyeyemi - Daily Post Nigeria

Controversy has continued to trail the authenticity of the Diploma Certificate President Bola Ahmed Tinubu claimed to have obtained from the Chicago State University, CSU.

The President used the certificate to secure final clearance for participation in the 2023 presidential election on the platform of the All Progressive Congress, APC.

In the latest development, a top official of CSU, Mr Carl Westberg, on Tuesday said that a replacement copy of the Diploma certificate Tinubu submitted to the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, was not from the Institution.

Westberg, who is the Registrar of the university, speaking under oath, specifically told the court that he was seeing the Diploma certificate copy for the very first time in the instant proceedings.

The subpoenaed witness testified on oath on the order of Judge Nancy Maldonado to back up the order for release of academic documents of Tinubu to the presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar.

Atiku Abubakar, who participated in the February 25, 2023 presidential election along with Tinubu, had challenged the declaration of the APC candidate as winner of the election on various grounds.

Among the grounds are that Tinubu was not qualified to have stood for the election on the grounds that he submitted forged documents on oath to INEC to secure eligibility.

In pursuit of his claim, Atiku had applied to a US District Court to issue an order compelling the CSU to release Tinubu’s academic records to him for verification and authentication.

Following his success at the US court, the CSU was ordered to release the academic records to him and to back up the release of the documents with deposition by an official of the institution.

In compliance with the order of the court, Westberg who testified on oath that Tinubu’s Diploma certificate, which he claimed to have obtained from the university, and which he used to secure clearance for participation in the presidential election, is not a document of the university.

For example, the witness admitted that the Institution had no board of trustees in 1979, as against the claim in the certificate Tinubu submitted to the electoral body.

When pressed on the signatures on other certificates issued in 1979 and the one Tinubu submitted to INEC, the witness admitted variations in signature, logo, and seal.

Specifically, Westberg pointed out that the signature on the replacement certificate of Tinubu matches certificates issued in the 1990s and not those of 1979, as claimed by the President.

Meanwhile, a certified true copy of the deposition and cross examination is expected to be handed over to Atiku to further establish his allegation of forgery against Tinubu.

It would be recalled that the final leg of Atiku’s case, seeking disqualification of Tinubu from the 2023 presidential election, is now pending before the Supreme Court of Nigeria.
Source: https://dailypost.ng/2023/10/04/chicago-state-university-certificate-tinubu-submitted-to-inec-not-our-document/

Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 9:56pm On Oct 04, 2023
achorladey:
The audacity comes from the fact he called himself Genrallisimo of their religious organization. He alone can do and undo grin grin


The day I came across that Watchtower, my mind just go straight to the foundation and idea behind their preach work and reporting of hours grin grin grin grin

You see the liars manipulating the scriptures to support the man made command of Rutherford. This same hours is what is used to determine spirituality, activeness of their members and righteousness.

A person can be going to the kingdom halls to attend all the meetings and remain inactive member while a person that goes to the field ministry but abandons the kingdom hall is active grin grin grin grin

That's the madness and insanities peddling behind that man made command from Rutherford grin grin grin grin

Imagine Rutherford stating he says he says he says .......... Where was that recorded in the Bible?

Had this originate from the Catholic those liars and manipulators will say it is the commandment of men. Now that it is from Rutherford they agree it is from God grin grin grin grin
Imagine the effrontery!

Their hypocrisy and double standard is nauseating.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 9:01pm On Oct 04, 2023
achorladey:
Evidence about the first sentence captured in the attached screenshot.

By the time you read it you will see how Rutherford had manipulated their brains and up till today the manipulations keeps manifesting.

Regarding the last part obviously their sheep nature while outside will start quoting verses that being a member of their religious organization does not mean being righteous when they convert the person to become a Jehovah’s witness and the person leaves then their wolf tendency comes back to say righteous means being a member of the religious organization like MaxInDHouse said some minutes ago grin grin grin grin
Hahahahahaha

Imagine the audacity.

A mere mortal equating his words with that of the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient mind behind the entire cosmos.

This is the problem with all man-made religions.

Instead of people to realize that they don't need anybody between them and their creator, they give away their power to these stupid power drunk manipulative men.

If not, what would give mere mortal men the audacity to say the words below?

"All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20
Look within!

Stop giving your power away to men like you!
PoliticsRe: Mynd44, What Do You Regard As False Information? by oteneaaron(m): 11:20am On Oct 04, 2023
SHAME ON YOU MYND44

SHAME ON THE NAIRALAND TEAM.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

Continue defending evil.

It will come back to haunt you.
PoliticsRe: Nairaland, Mynd44 Hiding The Truth About Tinubu Certificate. by oteneaaron(m): 11:18am On Oct 04, 2023
SHAME ON YOU Mynd44.

SHAME ON THE NAIRALAND TEAM.

Continue supporting certificate forgers.

Continue defending evil.

It will come back to haunt you.
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 6:46am On Oct 04, 2023
achorladey:
Cc: Emusan, Courz, oteneaaron

Come and see more of MaxInDHouse religious organization lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

Jehovah's witnesses scattered throughout the earth are merely advertising agents of the Eternal King and his kingdom. That does not at all mean that they are engaged in propaganda work. The generally accepted definition of propaganda is this: An organization for the propagation of a doctrine or system, the purpose of which is to cause the membership of the system or organization to increase or enlarge. Religious organIzations engage in propaganda, because each system of religion tries to increase its membership. The work of Jehovah's witnesses for his kingdom is entirely a different matter. The principles of Jehovah God are fixed, and never change, and Jehovah does not put forth an effort, nor authorize any creature to put forth an effort, to increase his organization or to propagate his doctrines. He furnishes the information to men to enable men to exercise their free will either to serve his kingdom of righteousness or to take the opposite course.
Their greatest enemy are their own publications.

😂😂😂

It is exactly the same propaganda they have been engaging in for over 100 years!!

What is purpose of "preaching" and sharing publications?

Is it not to increase their membership?

The HYPOCRISY and LIES start from the very top of the pyramid.

MaxInDHouse is simply a part of a PROPAGANDA MACHINE!

😂😂😂

Too much evidence!
PoliticsRe: JUST IN: CSU Says Tinubu Presented A Forged Certificate To INEC by oteneaaron(m): 2:01am On Oct 04, 2023
THE CONSTITUTION IS CLEAR!

Tinubu must go!

Tinubu must resign now!!

Certificate forgery is a CRIME!!!

Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 3:16pm On Oct 03, 2023
Bossdave:
Clown. I am talking to you. Whatever I discuss with Oteneaaron is not your business!
Lol.

He is trying deflect the conversation.

That is his modus operandi.

😂😂

Cc: Achorladey, Courz, Emusan
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 12:20pm On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Including the fact that Jesus Christ was a real historical figure shey?

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse
Lol.

Exactly my point.

😂😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 11:27am On Oct 03, 2023
Bossdave:
Thanks bro. MaxinDHouse is a serious liar like his lying organization.
You're super welcome bro.

Oh yes, he and his fellow witnesses have been proved time and time again to be disgusting liars.

There is no iota of truth in whatever they say or do.
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 11:26am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I'm also a disciple of Christ nah! grin



You're so gullible!


This is what oteneaaron your so called "bro" said about Jesus:

https://www.nairaland.com/7464041/pagan-christ-book-review



In fact he said Jesus never existed at all!

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

Now what do you think about the EVIDENCES levelled against Jesus by both ancient Jews and people like your "bro" today?
Hahahahahahaha

Typical MaxInDHouse.

Your ignorance will be your greatest undoing.

😂😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Need A Pastor To Help You Structure Your Church For Growth? by oteneaaron(m): 10:37am On Oct 03, 2023
Bossdave:
Jesus was called a possessed man. No evidence from His accusers.

Even the wife of your founder has given testimony against him as a cultist. So many evidences abound showing your organisations' link to freemasonery. Maybe we should open a new thread on that and expose a lot of worms. You're a cultist. Repent before it is too late.
There is already a thread addressing this topic.

For your viewing pleasure - https://www.nairaland.com/7000070/jehovahs-witnesses-tied-freemasons
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 7:27pm On Oct 02, 2023
achorladey:
These are his lies and manipulations in order to save his head and brains from madness and insanities peddling grin grin grin
More and more evidence.

😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 7:07pm On Oct 02, 2023
Emusan:
Do you think he doesn't know that?

He is just a lying liar hallgoer miscreant.
Of course I know.

I am just putting it out there for others to see what a dirty liar he and his other witnesses are.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 7:01pm On Oct 02, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhn6ZF1Hl2A?si=bSQETgO1IauxjRld


The above video is a recording of the 1967 District Convention, where Wisconsin Sheboygan District Overseer Brother Charles Sinutko presented the talk "Serving with Everlasting Life in View", making the following statement: STAY ALIVE TILL '75!

Another evidence.

MaxInDHouse continue spreading your LIES.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 6:53pm On Oct 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where it's explicitly stated that the world will end in year so and so! smiley
Why is it so easy for Jehovah's Witnesses to spread LIES?

Jehovah's Witnesses prophesied that the world would end in 1975.

Here are some of the evidence -

"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation? Apparently so.

In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end?

The year 1975.

It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end"." Awake! 1966 Oct 8 pp.19-20
"It did not take the brothers very long to find the chart beginning on page 31, showing that 6,000 years of man's existence end in 1975. Discussion of 1975 overshadowed about everything else.

"The new book compels us to realize that Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed," said a conventioner. Surely it was one of the outstanding blessings to be carried home!" ..

Brother Franz. 'Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah's witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could.

But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don't any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that." Watchtower 1966 Oct 15 pp.629,631
"Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then?

Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ.

If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes.

Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth.

It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative “day.” Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the “sixth day,” which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or “day” ended, and how long Adam lived into the “seventh day.” And yet the end of that sixth creative “day” could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years." Watchtower 1968 Aug 15 p.499
Oya, deny the above evidence.

There is plenty more from where that came from.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 11:03am On Oct 02, 2023
Ekemeze:
Fight upon fight 😂😂😂😂

The one that pained me most was when the entire family(my neighbor) disowned the eldest daughter for marrying a man from Assemblies of God church.
This lady was supposed to marry a guy from Jw but the guy's family rejected her cos obviously she's from a poorer background. They guy's family literally gave their son another lady. The mumu guy just accepted.. that girl cried for months.

She went and married another despite her parents threat. So I'd see such evil and still accept to join them?
Hahahahahaha

Evidence upon evidence.

Tushkid74, will you also call this "misinformation"?

😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 9:07am On Oct 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
God bless you abundantly Sir! Luke 6:27-28

Now your REASONABLE question Sir! smiley
Hahahahahaha

Fake pretender.

So now that the table has turned you have forgotten how to insult other people?

Now you're forming victimization?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 9:04am On Oct 02, 2023
spiralwedge:
I didn’t want to comment on this thread but now i have to.

Erasmus lived in the mid 1400s. The scriptures have long existed before him. The manuscripts of the New Testament were originally written in Koine Greek and he had no influence whatsoever on the earliest scripts found. He worked primarily on interpretation of the New Testament topics and made commentaries.
All original Christian doctrines have verses scattered in the scriptures written by various people at different times validating one another.
Christian cults like JW like to take one verse out of context to dissent, just like Muslims. The Bible is studied and understood when taken as a whole and put in context. It is also understood by experience, nobody can give you that experience. That’s why it is not for everybody.
A new day with more evidence.

Hahahahahahaha

😂😂
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by oteneaaron(m): 7:15pm On Oct 01, 2023
cornelboy:
You can tell that lie to your own soul lol
Why don't you show us the evidence to the contrary?

See this LIAR accusing another person of lying.

Kettle calling pot black.

Show us the evidence and stop beating around the bush.

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