Kingcalls: Winning only 6 wars in ur village no reach person wey win 2 wars for im village come still win 2 wars for ur village b4 dem comot...simply logic go forever hard una ... suarez left him in barca , went to lower atletico and won the league again, to show that ur short midget is a fraud ...
Football is not a war. Before Ronaldo fans brought about traveling footballer as parameter for greatness, fans and football used to cherish player with loyalty to a team. Greats are great because of loyalty not because they can travel. If moving around is a parameter, Zlatan would have won more. Ferguson is a great coach not because of traveling but because he was successful in United alone.
Besides, Messi has done it in different level. For example, I didn't know Messi in Barcelona but Argentina junior world cup. He did it in Olympics and now senior team. Ronaldo is good, why didn't he win all these?
Kingcalls: Of them like , they should give him...it will only discredit the award.... for the owners of the award to say , Ronaldos only priority is to make sure he wins more balon dor that Messi simply shows y they hv been giving him those fake awards to make sure Ronaldo don't catch up... my take is that awards are given in hidings and are full of sentiments... the champions league winner can only have that when u win it in front of everyone to see... so as the broken goal records... if a player that has not seen the final of the champions league in the past 7 yrs is given the award just cos he won copa it simply kills off the credibility of the award...I hope they give it to Messi so that thst stupid award will receive the biggest backlash that they will ever receive, there by killing the authenticity of the award...
Not owner of award. It's a journalist. Read to comprehend bro. Your own frustration is more obvious with this your comments. You are not after any credibility but Ronaldos popularity. If the award has lost anything, Ronaldo will not be dreaming to have it. Imagine, the last goal 50 top players, who won it?
When to you, Lewandowski wins it and the voters vote massively for Messi, what can you do? Should they manipulate for Lewandowski. Evra who close to where award is has swallowed bitterness and congratulated Messi.
Ballondor has lost credibility? In what way, this Ballondor that lost credibility to you gain more attention of media and every stakeholder in football than FIFA best self.
Nobody cheats on Lewandowski, it's a vote matter not selection. If you are not pleased, go and create your own award.
Besides, last year Ballondor ought to be for Lewandowski not this year. All the analysts self discuss it. Compensation for last year was is all what they give not really because of this year. If this year achievement is what to go by, Jorginho deserves it but unfortunately, he is not a popular name or a brand name.
Messi won this Ballondor the day he won Copa America.
Don't mind the haters. People who claim to be Lewandowski fans for Ballondor are actually not his fans but Ronaldos fans. Hence, they want to make it lose credibility. Anyway, one of them Patrick Evra that started this has congratulated Messi. Other haters should swallow the hatred and do the needful.
ifiokjohn: for what reason should Messi win it? For winning Copa America of 9 teams or winning two trophies?
Lewy Bundesliga title DFb Cup Highest goal scorer champions league Highest goal scorer league Highest goal scorer dfb cup Best player Bayern Munich Best player bundesliga So pray tell, how can Messi win balloon d or when lewy had this stats. Messi where no even fit win him league cup.
If you want to analyze, you put their achievements side by side not mentioning only Lewandowski stats.
ifiokjohn: lol...but it wasn't trash when Sneider that won everything didn't win it but Messi? Hypocrisy. By the way so did lewy ...he won every title in Germany and German best player, highest goal scorer in Europe etc so lewy deserve it more... One small cup called Copa can't change that
The same thing that befell Sneildjer befall Jorjinho. They are not indispensable in their teams. I didn't know Sneildjer arguments until after World cup where Diego Forlan was the MVP. You go cry so tey next week. Na mock we go they mock you because, it's already reported unofficial that Messi is winning it. Take heart Bro
ifiokjohn: Leave that one...we all know Riberry was the one that was supposed to win that award, but Messi to was giving the award ahead of Sneder who deserved it more. Ronaldo paid for his own by having the 2018 award he was supposed to win given to modric. So Ronaldo has paid. E remain Messi to pay for sneider own. Oga talk truth...did Messi deserve that best player award at the world cup seeing the contribution of others players like Rodriguez, klose etc
Messi deserved the awards by all standard. The small awards wey Sneildner suppose win no bẹ Milito win am. Tell me who won Europe best, Seiria A best and Inter Milan best. Who go come dash Sneildjer. Even world cup best was Diego Forlan not Sneildjer or what have you. Messi won European golden boot, wọn là Liga golden boot, là Liga, super cup this same year. He was the best goal scorer in champions league. Bring on Sneildjer individual stats make I see bro
cr7lomo: What did messi win in 2010 to deserve that year, no champions league, no European golden boot , he has a disastrous World Cup no goal contribution and was disgraced out 4.0 by Germany, sneijder had a far more better season so as iniesta that won the same thing he won and added the world cup with it and scoring the winner in the final to hand Spain their first ever world cup .... Next week don reach na , we go see how e go b
He won the same thing Lewandowski won last year that people say that he should win world best now. Barca won La liga, Club world cup, super cup and Copa Derey, oga ade. But no one dey close to him in term of individual achievements the way we have it now. Messi was seriously on fire then. If you still don't understand, continue in your ignorance. \
People have mentioned it to you severally; Forlan won World cup Golden boot and ball Diego Milito won Seria A player of the year, Milito won European Player of the year , Inter Milan Player of the year And Messi won Ballondor
Let's assume Messi cheated or Fifa cheated him. Does it mean all those football body also cheated him. Wise up bro dey reason small small. what gave Messi Ballondor 2019 gave him that of 2010. If you are angry, create your own Ballondor and give to who you think deserve without vote.
Dailymemoirs4: Most of Fernandez goals came from penalty. United have not been given more than one this season as compared to other season. In Open play how many has he scored. Fernandez has dropped in form since Euros. Even in Portugal he doesn't do well. Manchester United got bailed out many times this season by Ronaldo. How can you talk about him not rising up. If a team like Real Madrid has three people who can rise up it is a plus to the team but Manchester United do not have such characters. At Juve under Pirlo last season do u know how many late goals he scored?
Fernadez goals did not mainly come from penalties bros. He scored many goals even to my own anger self because he doesn't score against big teams. This season is enough to tell you what he always do. He had four goals before Ronaldo comes. You too say the truth, Do you hear much from Fernandez again compared to previous seasons?
He bailed them out several time just like the way he did in Juventus. But what about the big teams that will not relinquish their leads like Atalanta, Vilareal and others? He needs the supports of others to elevate their performances unfortunately, he does not have because they also look towards him. Like it or not Ronaldo is not who he used to be before.
cr7lomo: In realness , the balon dor has always been an award given to the player that contributed best to his team winning a major honour, that has how it has always been until blatter ruined it by using his position to influence messi winning it... an individual player that consistently played the best part in making his team achieve success .... in 2003/ 2004 Ronaldinho dint deserve it, it was meant to be an award for Henry, cos he won the EPL with arsenal going unbeaten , won the European golden boot and was very instrumental in making arsenal to win the EPL , while Ronaldinho won nothing
Goals alone should not be a criteria for winning it, it should come with a major title ... that was how it was originally ...how influential the player was in crucial games and how it lead his team to glory .... Ronaldo was meant to win 2012 and 2018 ... but not 2013 ...messi wasn't meant to win 2010 and 2019 ... zidane wasn't awarded the balon dor in 2006 cos he was red carded in the final tho he win the golden ball cos his name was already written b4 the final ... but messi won 2019 despite being red carded in the 3rd place match for bronze of the copa ...
2010 was the first time ever a player that won balon dor dint come from a world cup winning side . 1990 mattaus Germany 1994 Romario Brazil 1998 zidane France 2002 Ronaldo Brazil 2006 cannavaro Italy 2010 messi?? And Spain won it , of which iniesta was also a team mate of messi in the club, just like modric was teammate to Ronaldo, but was given to him cos he helped Croatia get to final
Now u see y the award is crap... u guys always tune it to favour messi, now u say its individual, but we know that individually Lewandowski was better last season and this year 2021...but u guys now wanna tune it to Messi won copa ... now its no more about individual performance like 2012 and 2019 .... u messi fans should start saying the truth and thow away being biased ... in 2019 , Ronaldo won the league and the nations league, but his fans said he didn't deserve despite defeating vvd , we rightly said VVD deserved it cos he was brilliant in that semis against messi and barca , also won champions league and lost the league by just one point , helped his nation to nations league final as well
You dont even know what you are saying again. Was Blatter the fifa President in 2019? Is Blatter the Fifa President now? Is Fifa the president of all the sites that rate messi as first. Recent annual goal.com rating that is obvious pro-Ronaldo rated Messi as the best. Marca rated Messi as the best this year. All individual awards that a player can think of, Messi beats Ronaldo in them. What else do you have as a point gan-an? I am very sure if Blatter controlled football sites, he cannot control all. Messi performance has been impressive from under age competition. Was it Blatter too that made him excel in those ones?
This person is suffering from something I don't know, may be frustration or bitterness. Messi did not deserve, Modric did not deserve and Ronaldinho too did not deserve his own. Just say that everyone of them did not deserve it except Ronaldo so as to know where your problems stem from.
when Messi won it this year and you are not contented, go to Jupiter and leave earth for people that accept. Whether you like it or not Messi is far better than Ronaldo. I know that has been your headache and you will stay with that headache for long if MESSI success is your bitterness because he will rule for long to see who break that record. Sorry ooooo!
cr7lomo: Stop telling lies , super cup is the first cup of every season and not counted as previous... its usually the first game of the new season . The whole award is crap cos messi favourism...blatter messed the whole thing due to favourism of messi ... messi was not meant to win 2010 , 2012 and 2019 ...and certainly not 2021, he sudnt even b in the conversation. Ronaldo doesn't only deserve 2013 , but deserved the rest ... 2010 Sneidjer or iniesta deserved it, 2012 , Ronaldo or deserved it, 2013 Robben or Ribery deserved it , 2018 Ronaldo deserved it, 2019 van dyke deserved it... if it was a genuine award , its meant to me Ronaldo 6 and messi only deserved 2009, 2011 and 2015
We shall still see if Blatter is still the one here now or the last one Messi won. It's a crap because your penaldo did not win. but when he wins , it becomes a valid one. sorry, I understand your frustration!
If you are not happy because of Messi , your wailing still remains because i am not sure he will stop this year. Just this year, go to any site, Messi is above others. even the last Goal 50 and Marca rating, he is ahead of others. So by all standards, Messi is ahead of Ronaldo, if you don't believe, organize your own award and be the decider without consider the votes of others.
Sneildjer for 2010 as if he won world cup golden ball or boot, as if he won inter Millan player of the year or European player of the year. If Ballondor cheated Sneildjer , did Seria A, UEFA and inter Millan too cheated him. You can never place a player that play flamboyant football to one rigid player when their achievement is at par.
That says a lot. Four managers in four years but one cannot say he is the reason for their sack directly; 1 teams are well prepared to meet Juventus and Man united hoping that Ronaldo is still there unfortunately, he is no longer of that age where he can carry a team like he used to be. Its an obvious fact but difficult to believe.
Then again, most coaches nowadays expect running at all time for 90 minutes. If you are not with the team you run to win ball. That was the problem Aguero had with Pep when he just joined Man City. It was the same thing that happens in those teams Ronaldo played for. and he cannot do that again. One of Man United legends have said it this season but Ronaldo Atlanta goals made people to forget that. Only people that don't observe that Man United formation before Ronaldo changed this season when he joined. a team that was unbeaten for matches away now became a laughing stock. Man United absorb pressure and counter attack but stopped that since Ronaldo joined. Not Ronaldo fault here but coach that forget his identity.
Another thing is that Ronaldo is paying the price of being the star among them. People tend to look up to the star when one is in the team. One thing I observe is that People rise to ocassion when it is getting tougher in Madrid. I KNOW HOW MANY time Ramos, Benzema and Bale have rose to occassion to bail out Madrid when opposition became strong for Madrid. the same thing cannot be said of Ronaldo. Before Ronaldo joined Juventus and Man United, they used to have people , at least 3 that will have up to ten goals per season, but it reduced drastically because of Ronaldo presence. Bruno Fernadez has not had up to 3 goals since Ronaldo joined whereas he has had four before Ronaldo joined. the summary of it all is that its NOT Ronaldo but Ronaldo is indirectly involevd in their sacking.
cr7lomo: Ok...then Ronaldo also won super cup that season if its about cup now , since we wanna use irrelevant cups and enough to win balon dor
That means MESSI also won three trophy the year you said he didn't win anything for Ballondor. He won Super cup, World club cup and Copa derey. Lame arguments. Super cup is counted as part of previous season not current.
cr7lomo: Below is messis stats 2006... it simply shows u the crap of an award that is...he made top 20 despite playing only 17 league games and coming in as a sub 15 times, scoring on 8 goals...how he made the list is a miracle just like they hv fraudulently given him most of his awards... he dint even deserve top 50 ...he only played 1400mins i.e 15 and a half games in a season that barca played about 60 games. This is what we have always complained about the nonsense and favoritism towards him . 8 goals as a sub and he made top 20
Ballondor is not given but won and its on record that voting is what they use. So no one will see Messi plays that time without being thrilled. He is magnificent on the ball. A lion in front of defenders. You will wail long if Messi's achievement is your headache oooo, the guy is just too much. Many Madrid fans still hold Messi in high esteem till now despite that his arch-rival Ronaldo played for ,Madrid. Imagine, Benzema saying Messi is absolutely the best but respect Ronaldo for his hardworking. He could not even choose between the two. The same thing Mourinho and others. England fans hold Messi of high esteem than the way Spanish fans hold Ronaldo. Its that simple. Messi greatness will continue to make you bitter if you persist in your path because it might not even be the last whereas Ronaldo has gone already.
I never watch Copa America live but when I watch everything online, i can bet Messi is far from finished if he is fit. What he does on the field surpass goals and assists. You will be marvelled.
cr7lomo: I never meant top 20 in nomination...besides, he dint deserve it , Messi first won it with a trophiless season , cos winning FA cup no follow ... champions league, league , euros, World cup ...every past winner won one of those cups until messi won with with copa de rey ( non credible cup) y'all based it on goals, so Ronaldo did same the following season by hitting 78 goals he also deserved it then...
It was extended cos the criminal blatter was caught off mic saying he will always favour messi in the balon dor ahead of Ronaldo, even if Ronaldo performs better. He now compensated him with golden ball that muller , neure or James deserved. But messi that scored only in the group games against Nigeria, Bosnia and Iran ( dead teams) with no single goal contribution in the knockout won it . Fake... there's a difference between big games and big teams, Ronaldo performs better in big games than messi..fact ... u are talking about casillas , Ronaldo has scored buffon 12 times every single time he has played him he scored...messi has only scored buffon in just one game despite playing him multiple times... Ronaldo is the only player to have scored a hat trick against oblack and he did it 2 times with 2 different clubs that dont play the same type of football.
Messi did not win Ballondor trophyless, he won a trophy at least. But Ronaldo did not even win anything
Theo Walcott,bukayo Saka, Jude Belinham, Pedri all to Messi? At 19, Messi was already making 3rd best player in the world, that can't be said of Walcott, Sancho, Greenwood and other flukes you listed there.
Bros this is not what I expected from you...like seriously? Shey u dey whine me ni
I am not sure you follow the argument at all. 19 years or under performance is what we are after here bros;
We are talking about under age performance of Ronaldo and Messi and I bring him facts that no one knew Ronaldo to be this great at 19. Is that too much for you abi you don't know how they do analogy. Yours is to bring me what Ronaldo won in team or individual at that age. You said Ronaldo performed better 6than Messi at 19. hence all these facts.
cr7lomo: U are the clueless one cos u dont even know he hardly played for barca at 19 due to injuries and also playing most games as a fringe player. Did u even have dstv that year ?? Most of u dint watch messi play in his early years , but una wan claim wetin una no know
But he was 19 in the link I sent to you where he scored Hatrick. Why are you this dumb self. You claimed he didn't play for Barca at 19 and that is it for you. 2021-2006= 15. And 34-15=19.
MESSI was actually 19 in that 2006 when he scored in El Classico. He won under 20 for Argentina. He won Golden Boy award in 2005 which Ronaldo has never wom and will never win. The truth is that Messi's greatness has been obvious since he was small. Ronaldo is just doing catch up game. Which will never be possible. Just like you his fan boys say, he is hardworking but cannot match the talent and hardwork himself, Messi.
cr7lomo: What Ronaldo had achieved at 19 , Messi dint. Apart from the hat trick against real, whatelse did he achieve? Ronaldo helped Portugal to their first ever final , scoring 2 times and assisting once. Messi that literally spent the whole of age 19 and part of 20 treating injuries. He was like Ansi fatsu then , play one game , spend the neat 3 injured. Most of u just started following Messi. Most of you dint even watch his early games.
Mbappe Ronaldo de Lima CR7 Pele Walcott Jude Bellingham Jose Antonio Reyes Bukayo saka Sancho Greenwood Rashford Zlatan Halaand Foden Raul Iniesta Benzema Neymar Fati Pogba Maradona George Best Cryuff Eusebio ( Black panther) Michael Laudrup Maldini Kluivert Owen Totti Rooney Pedri
Most of u messi fans think football starts and ends with messi. And thats cos y'all just started watching football. U will mention stuff that other players had long achieved b4 him like its a new thing
At what age did Messi win under 19? Because I didn't know Messi first in Barcelona, I knew him at Argentina under 20 team. You even mention reaching final or Euro as Ronaldo's achievement. I am totally lost for words to describe your cluelessness. If reaching final is an achievement as u claimed Ronaldo did for Portugal, Messi will not be place side by side alongside players like Ronaldo.
As for Maradona, Real Ronaldo, Mbape and others you mentioned, they are not part of the argument. It's Ronaldo and Messi for now, abeg!
cr7lomo: U bloody liar...u said he did it at 17...show us proof
which year was this match is the question? I think the person that made that reference made a mistake but it doesn't change the argument that Ronaldo first Hattrick in football was against a weaker team compare to Messi first Hattrick against Madrid in their previous argument.
cr7lomo: I have never seen these type of liars in my life like Messi fans ...oh my goodness ...u guys lie alot and are soooo delusional...never seen in my life ... scored which hat trick trick against Madrid at 17?? How old was he when he made his debut in 2005 ? Shey na next week them go announce balon dor ....I go laf una tire
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If you dont know this go and check Madrid 3 vs Barca 3 on YouTube.
Tobichuks08: I will take your claims one after another
On goal Ronaldo even having played 292 apps scored 311 la Liga goals, goal ratio of 1.071 While Messi played 520 and scored 474 la Liga goals.. ratio of 0.91
On sporting and barca aside Ronaldinho and eto name another stop striker Barca had at the time Messi was brought into the team..
Someone who started playing under a good coach, a good teammates xavi, iniesta, Ronaldinho and you just name it..
It was harder breaking into man united team for Ronaldo that it was for Messi..
Messi had a platform already, Barca was establishined winning la Liga before Ronaldo came.. As Messi won la Liga against elber and thier likes Ronaldo won ucl against Bayern and their likes..
It took Ronaldo 8 minutes to score his first juve goal and 320 to score first seria a goal. Now 320 minutes of football is how many matches? Roughly 4, and you said your elber man that score his first after 6 matches didn't play more minutes wonderful..
Like i said agenda must agenda.
I don drop facts deal with it..
Barca had platform already? But Man United under a coach that had his pattern for 20 years then do not have. Barca had platform before and they achieve more than what they have achieve when Messi was there compared to what they have achieved since its inception. Do you know that for over 100 years, Barcelona have won about 75 trophy and half of it came when Messi broke out in Barcelona. Can you say the same of Ronaldo. Messi alone is a generation in Barca. most of the recognition Barca get now did not just come but come as a results of Messi's greatness.
Real Madrid, Juventus and Man United which of them is not a winning team before Ronaldo came.
Messi Greatness is all obvious suddenly but right from under age to Olympics and Barcelona. Now tell me under age competition where Ronaldo has performed well. This tell you that Barca owe Messi than what Messi owes them. He is Phenomenon. Before Roanldo fans brought their theory of travelling agenda, football used to appreciate loyalty but they change narration when it comes to Ronaldo.
MoneyTrees: Bro who was PSG playing against I wonder how you guys keep celebrating mediocrity Did you know that the odds of P. Bamford of Leeds United scoring a hat trick against Nantes FC is 1.14?
He scored Man City and Lepzieg. Besides, the one he scored yesterday was against the same type of team your penaldo scores this season.
KingOroro1: Nah, the oil can not run dry. He had an assit today
Ororo for a reason
Can you imagine the mentality of Man United fans. Because he assisted, the team is now okay. As soon as Ronaldo scores, some don't even mind if their team lose. This just justify what a Juventus legend said that he cares about personal stats rather than team success. Na ur cross sa, carry it ooo
Kingcalls: He has never scored a big team in a tournament... the highest ranked he has ever scored in a world Cup or copa is Chile, and he just did that this year
What of Brazil, àbí you are dizzying ni? I just checked now and Messi has scored a tournament goal against them.
If the teams and the goals you posted there are the authentic one according to you, then Ronaldo is a big time fraud then cos these are handful of goals when compared to number of yahoo 100+goals we all claim he has.
Fuckthamods: Oga shut up and calm down on your bitterness... It's not every situation you are meant to use for agenda. CR7 not going to the world cup won't make your life better. All those teams are higher than Bolivia
Chile, Brasil, Uruguay and others are not here oooo!
Fuckthamods: Oga shut up and calm down on your bitterness... It's not every situation you are meant to use for agenda. CR7 not going to the world cup won't make your life better. All those teams are higher than Bolivia
Is it that I dont know the meaning of favourites again? Are they not supposed to be the team they scored most?
All i see here is the replica of all our politicians and frauds do, falsification and manipulation of facts.
To the best of my kjnowledge, the teams Ronaldo scoired most are not even in the ones you listed, and the ones Messi scored most are hidden. i feel your frustration sa. It happens when someone is defending contender for player of the month against world best player
Latakia: Eeyah I can feel your pain and how u still find time from your miserable life to still reply me, hope Messi still dey play ball Oya another assignment for u to edit ewu
I wonder who takes this lady serious! Cursing someone because of Ronaldo that does not know you. Miserable! How will I be defending one that is competing for player of the month ahead of the person that competes for Ballondor? I beg, stop giving this one attention jare.
If French league is that important to PSG, they wouldnt put Argentina and Champions league clause in Messi's contract.
As useless as PSG team are with Messi, they have not had the kind of horrible records and humiliation Ronaldo and Man United have this season. Winning two three games in 9 matcehs. One in their last 6. I pity Man United for where they will find themselves when season ends.
paulolee: because messi is having a complicated season, all his critics no wan let him matter rest with endless comparisons... our oga don create messi thread bcoz he yet to score in the so called "farmers league" forgetting dt d same leo already had 3 goals in 3 UCL games including scoring a superb solo goal against dt same city dt united played n cr7 ghosted all tru d game.. wat haters are getting wrong is dt, leo n PSG marriage is a different from cr7 n united love story bcoz leo is yet to score n PSG is topping with 10 points already unlike wat is happening with cr7 n united PSG will win d league without leo goals n am not worried bcox even if leo tops dt league's goal chat, critics like u go say na farmers league jus like dey discredited d copa after he won it forgetting dey were once asking for his international glory.. messi goals will start raining bt m more concerned abt him winning d UCL for PSG... bcoz his goals n winning domestic cups for PSG without dt ucl will be a failure for dt deal just like cr7 failed new challenge dt happened in Turin cr7 scammed n Promised dm UCL n left dm in 4th position, messi no fit worst like dt...i pray mk united no worst pass dt juve own o
I am not surprised at their ranting. the same thing happened last season but end justifies the means. Messi did not have an open goal until October but eventually, he turned everything around and scored more than everyone except Lewandowski.
Ronaldo too did not score in his first five matches in JUVENTIUS but later, he picked. what some people don't understand is that, motivation to do not always come at the same ntime for all players.
Truvelisback: I'm not a Chelsea fan but there is politics in this useless award. If he had been in Spanish side like Barca or realmadrid, they would have nominated him. Mendy is and still the best goal keeper for now.
HOW MANY TIME DID THEY NOMINATE TREBLE WINNING VICTOR VALDES FOR BALOO'NDOR
Ochari: list has been revealed and there is no surprise that a lot of Manchester United players make it into the top 10 out of the 50-player list.
Cristiano Ronaldo’s return to Old Trafford this summer meant that United’s wage bill was set to sky-rocket. The Red Devils also failed to make any notable sales in the summer in order to reduce their net spend.
As revealed by Spotrac, here are the Premier League’s top 50 wage-earners PER WEEK in the 2021-22 season: