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ccollins:
was there any place she faltered in her deliverance ministry, did she ever say she could not exercise her authority in Christ Jesus over evil spirits please don't add words or calumny of false rumors on a woman who is pure at heart and only want to worship God. as far as she had biblical backings in her books of her testimony and other many. things she did then we should even take her more seriously. you talk about power in Christ but let's be honest here, how many christians in all these modern churches cast out devils or can really say they fellowship with Holy Spirit as God expects and is in Bible. yet all they do is depend on a man of God and read Bible all day, you have to be spiritually minded and quench not the Spirit, and yes people in deliverance ministry and those who discern highly do see demons so how do you explain this, is it also heresies? Happy Sunday sir

d gift of discernment of spirits enables you to see spirits (angels included) My fiancee has dis gift and i had to teach her from scriptures dat ghosts are demons disguised to deceive. I am not against d gifts of. the Spirit but emphasis on demons

vooks:
Ignorance is expensive than education my broda oo

i believe d ignorant person here is you dear. So u believe d earth is 6000+ years old? No wonder scientists find it difficult to believe d Bible. I also held on to dat 6000+ belief until recently wen i started coming across biblical proofs dat d world is older than adam. Ok wen was hell created?

zeongeon:
Satan hadn't fallen by then read ezekiel 28 :13- downwards. Satan was in the garden with Adam and eve. Where please was the preadamic time cause the Bible in Genesis says the earth was with out form and void. Please educate me are you trying to say God destroyed the preadamic time.

eden is d garden of authority on earth. R u trying to say God created two captains to run d earth. D devil once reigned on dis earth. Adam was created to replace d devil
The following portion of scripture is a picture of gen1:2 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord , and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Jeremiah 4:23-27 KJV

vooks:
Big fat lie known as the Gap theory that inserts billions of years between verse 1 and 2

Educate yourself here;
https://www.icr.org/article/675/314
http://www.icr.org/article/why-gap-theory-wont-work/

well you can post wateva u feel i should read in dat link here.

ccollins:
sure brother, offcourse and that's because apostle paul knew the danger and advantage Satan could have over christians in spiritual realm if they kept up with bitterness, even that could make Satan the accusser of the Christians ask God that they were undeserving of heaven because of that sin..... paul was aware still that demons can be given chance by sins of christians even though they are ignorant and therefore had to talk about it

Jesus said "come onto me all ye that laboured and heavy laden and i will give you rest". If we still get attacks as sinners nd unbelievers do, is Jesus Christ dead in vain? We must know our position in Christ as His church. We now occupy a position of authority. Christ is d Head and we are His body. Wen we cast out a demon in the name of Jesus, Jesus takes over and wateva manifestation that follows isn't wat is important but d fact dat d demons leave.
Concerning reading or listening to testimonies of people who claim to be or av been in d occult, again lets look at the Bible Jesus cast out seven demons from mary who was obviously possessed nd it was glaring to all. Did Jesus make her an authority by asking her about d Demonic realms for His disciples to take note? Instead, she was always sitted at His feet to hear the word of God. Dis is important because devil is a liar and father of lies and so those in d occult are often fed with lies from the pit of hell. An individual dat just underwent deliverance needs to unlearn wat dey know and learn from Christ. David playing of harp only gave king saul temporary deliverance but Jesus Christ brought d power to deliver to d church. Read through out the gospels and see how Jesus dealt with evil spirits. His disciples followed his footsteps and we should also learn from that. Wen we preach the gospel, signs and wonders follow. Wen you spend all ur time knowing and fighting the already defeated devil, wen will you start knowing God.?

zeongeon:
I want to agree with you that there was no preadamic era too...and i lets reason together.as the book of genesis 1:2 says the earth was without form and void. if the earth had no form and void where then was then did the pre adamic era exist...The dinosaurs went extinct with the flood. You may wonder why the dinosaurs and man lived so long before the flood and was much bigger and stronger this was as a result of the oxygen level as at that time before the flood after the flood oxygen level dropped and the dinosaurs couldn't cope..even though some made it through that era and are still alive even too this day as man has discovered all the animals living here on earth.. example the people of Congo a village to be precise talked about a dinosaur that stays in the village and in its waters and its called mokuliembebe this animal the villagers describes have a long neck and all of its features resembling that of a dinosaur..you can research on it.

Even some pple in Indonesia lay claim of seeing a dinosaur looking bird all these accounts faults the theory of evolution as evolution makes us believe that present day animals evolved from the dinosaurs.

As for satan, Satan started nursing the idea of man worshipping him when God created man, he was so envious about man..do you know Satan was in the garden too and fell when man fell ezekiel 28:13-16..remember God created everything and all was good Gen 1:31 meaning nothing "bad" must have been in the garden

pre adamic age existed btw verse 1 nd 2 of Genesis chapter 1. Verse 1 signifies perfection, verse 2 signifies destruction and verse 3 downwards signifies restoration. How else will you explain d fall of satan nd 1/3 of angels as stated in the scripture. We know that Satan was d serpent dat tempted adam nd eve dat means He had already fallen as at dis time. Take note that the only two times d word created appeared in dis chapter was in verse 1 with regards d creation of the heaven and earth and in verse 27 with regards creation of man (adam)

Ganjafama:
If man wasn't supposed to die, don't you think the Earth would have been overpopulated. Secondly, if Adam and Eve could fall that means they were not perfect. This means that if they didn't fall into Satan deception, their offsprings would.

we are told that angels are innumerable. D concept of overpopulation exists because creation went into corruption after d fall of man. God’s plan are beyond ours.

ccollins:
okay sir, point noted. what of where Bible says do not be ignorant of vices of devil

its in 2cor2:11. Paul was admonishing brethren to forgive eachother. Bitterness was d device of d devil dat paul was talking about and its different from learning about the devil.

ccollins:
it does not change the fact that it has sparked revivalism among churches and has help a lot of Christians get inspired to draw closer to God. I remember the thorn I'm flesh of apostle Paul which messenger of satan gave to Paul and out of optimism, Paul cried to God numerous times but God said that My Grace is sufficient unblock your weaknesses. does that make satan more super? No! spiritual warfare has been recorded in Bible and Rebecca brown exposed the kingdom of darkness slot and its mysteries so I expect all these complaints about her like seriously??

bros Rebecca brown book will not help you grow spiritually. Knowing the Devil wouldn't help you know God. Little wonder d Bible only contains few details about d devil. D book of revelation talks about a church( among d 7 churches) dat didn’t know d depth of satan and dey were commended. Jesus Christ overcame d devil but charged us to occupy till He comes. D Bible says we should resist d devil.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

muafrika:
Spiritual warfare is different according to our different denominations and Ideology. To me, attaining to goodness, mercy, righteousness and keeping the word is the greatest spiritual battle all Christians have to fight and win.

100 years ago, Christianity was still political and mostly European even in practice. It was also starting to expand into places like Africa which have a deeper sense of spirituality.

Am open minded, so I'll give experience a chance, if it stands the test of agreement with God's word.

Christianity is a life in christ and it cannot be devoid of experiences iin as much as such experience doesn't contradict d scriptures. D book of acts is a book dedicated to experiences and we even see times where apostles come together and share experiences dey had been having.

Anas09:
@Oyeledef.

Alongside Jesus Christ and Apst Paul, I believe in the LITERAL Adam. And I don't have a problem with Billions or Millions of Yrs old Earth. Although, the ungodly Scientist may want to present some materials that are superfluous, with the aim to mislead. I think the yrs they put to those Mamoths and Dinosaurs fosils are exaggerated. That said.

I asked a question. When God created the Earth, time and seasons, which were propelled by day and night, was they dead in the animal kingdom? Or were animals like man who wasn't aging until the Fall?.
The reason for this question is this. The years or how Old the Earth is according to the records gotten from the Bible, follows events starting from how long Adam lived down to you and I. But from Creation to wen Adam fell, we don't ve any record of time.
Can it be safe to say, the World had endured for millions of yrs, the animals have lived long, died and some got extinct before Adam fell?

its oyeludef. Try reading the whole of Ezekiel 28 but let me make my point
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ezekiel 28:13-15 KJV
here you will see d fall of Satan. There was an eden where he ruled before. Bible scholars how understand d original text in which the book of Genesis was written (whether Hebrew or aramiac i don't know) claim dat the original interpretation of gen1:3 downwards signifies restoration. God destroyed d old world with a flood and caused everything to b still. Come to think of it, God asked adam to replenish(refill) the earth. If nothing had been there before, He will just av asked him to fill the earth.

Anas09:
Brother Oyeludef. Yes, I will read it.

Am studying chapter 1 right now.
Now, am here reasoning just like the author and some Bible scholars are speculating ( although, am neither a scholar or an author), that there probably was a Pre-Adamic Era which Adam wasn't part of till he was later created millions of yrs after the dinosaurs were extinct.
But am reasoning that, there wasn't a pre-Adamic world, why? Becos, am thinking that, when God created everything , he started with the firmaments, lights, which caused time and seasons. Animals, both in the sea and on land. Tress and all. Then Man in Eden, there was mornings and nights, yrs passing by.

We are not told how long Man lived in Eden before the Fall, that's because time wasn't counting on him. He was ageless. He was neither motal nor immotal.

Here I am reasoning, did that also pertained to the animals? I mean, the agelessness, Or were animals growing and aging and dying along side time and seasons? because if time was counting on animals and wasn't counting on man, shouldn't that tell us that man lived for millions of yrs before the Fall, Since the fosils of Mamoths and Dinosaurs dates back this long?
Still, reasoning. Sin trigered time, time trigered aging and and aging trigered. dead for and in Adam right?. But was it also applicable to the beast? Must it necessarily mean that, there was a World without Adam in it for Millions of Yrs before Adam was created?.
Still reasoning. We are told, that God created all these things but left the responsibility of naming them for Adam to do. Does it then mean that, Millions of yrs after these Beast had died and extinct, Adam was created, then he went on to give names to the animals he never knew?

As to satan seating on his throne and ruling the earth in that pre-Adamic creation. I also have issues with it. Why? Well, I reason that, from when Lucifer thought to also have his own throne and rule as God, he has been in that Business ever since Man was created. My thought is, Angels don't worship fellow Angels. So if Lucifer wants worship, it won't be from his fellow Angels. His target is Man. And since he got man to fall, he has been in that business receiving worship. If we shd agree with the scholars who say, Lucifer had his throne before man was created, my question will then be, who was he reigning over?
Man has been worshipping Satan in different forms shapes from the Fall. All the demons who Fell with him, are the gods of the nations, parading and Masqurading as the Most high, while in essence all those demons are subject to Satan and turning over the worship to him. Self worship for those who don't believe in dieties but themselves, is also satanic because that's what satan is doing. He doesn't believe in the Deity of Yahwey, so he worships himself.
Just reasoning. Pls reason with me.
This is how I read.
Reading on...

i also av done some research on what d Bible says about the preadamic age here is a video on YouTube by benny hinn that was quite helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQkOGqaGzcA like kenneth hagin said in dat book, God told us everything about d devil he wants us to know so as Christians in the bible. Time started counting from Gen1:5 wen d Bible started saying the evening and d morning d first day nd so on. D realm of man is d realm of time however, man was immortal and never supposed to die because d Bible says death comes as d wages of sin nd tru one man(adam).

postmann:
Thank you. GOD bless you abundantly.

uwc. D pleasure is mine

Anas09:
Oh my God, @Oyeludef. You gave me a whole book. Thank you, thank you, thank you. May God bless you richly.
Pls if you have more, pls drop. Thank you. I love you.

u r very welcome. However readin it is more important than having it

Hello children of God. Good morning, I will like to share with you a link download a material that really helped me overcome Spiritual battle. It is in pdf format and I av uploaded it on my Dropbox. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lpaupxebq1g4ja/the-triumphant-church-kenneth-e-hagin.pdf?dl=0

castancassy5:
I have be suffering for a long time and I want to join a cult that will make me very rich. Am from Abia state and my number is 08108047848. Pls those with information should comment

come to Jesus and u will find rest. He became poor so u can b rich

sonOfLucifer:
Stop spreading lies in the name of the Holie Spirit. I curse you and your dead Jew Jesus. I spit on Yahweh's throne.

1cor12:3 ...no man speaking by d Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed and no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Give ur life to christ and b set free from d spirit of anti christ (1john 2:22, 4:3 and 2jn1:7)

Praise God. I started reading dis thread about 4 days ago and i must confess, av been blessed by it. By His grace, I also have my calling in the area of deliverance and as a matter of fact, I ran to Jesus (became born again) because of constant demonic attacks dat started while I was in secondary school. God saved me finally and I av alot of testimonies however, I also learnt a lot of things about dealing with spiritual battles and I hope to share as time goes on. Firstly, about the origin of demons, fallen angels e.t.c I will recommend you see dis youtube video by Pastor Benny hinn. It really gave me a lot of understanding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqNzaU3D20

vfactor:
You ve not answered my simple question: did the Igbos have Jehovah in mind when they called God Chiokike? Does that mean that when an Igbo christian calls chiokike or chukwu he is call the gods in the Igbo cosmology?

an igbo will conveniently call him Jehova if u ask him to cos that is d person he/she is referring to . Guy u did you click on dat link? Uf u did, I believe ur questions should av been answered. Even d guy refused to answer because he knows what am talking about. There are a lot of literature about dis topic in d public domain so u can do ursef a favour by just seeking answers instead of just arguing for arguing sake. Allah is a god but most definitely not d God of d Bible. If Jehova calls christians nd jews his own and allah commands his followers to kill jews nd christians, shouldn't dat raise questions in ur heart. Since wen has God become d author of confusion? Educate ursef bro

vfactor:
I never stated that Muslim worship the same God as Christians just like the apostle Paul didnt mean that the Greeks worshiped the true God when he reffered to their alter honouring the "unknown God". Even Christians dont worship the same God. My question is how do Arabic Christians read " God" in their Arabic bibles? Research and lemme know

i also used to think like you until I read a book "who is this allah" by G J Monshay who happened to be a conc. Muslim before his conversion . I'll advice you to get it. By d way, dis is a link i of a site i just read wen carrying out ur assignment.it answers d question http://www.ccu.edu/centennial/2012/05/beware-jehovah-and-allah-are-not-the-same-god/

vfactor:
Its easy to dish advice, but hard to eat it. The simple issue was not who the op worshipped but the meaning of Allah

if allah is d same person as Jehova, d op is a worshiper of allah. Dare d op or any other person u know from him religion to tell you that they are worshiper d christian God (El hohim, yahweh, Jehova). Mr man you think you know but isn't it illogical to deny d obvious? Op can boldly write "i believe in allah". Dare him to write "i believe in Jehova". Its simple logic

vfactor:
I think the mistake is being ignorant of the fact that Allah is an Arabic word for God (English). When Arabic christians read their bible translated into Arabic, they come across allah, since that is the Arabic word for God

i will advise you to go and make further study on dat. Ask dis guy on dis thread if he worships Jehova.?

Smartoscope007:
Out of all of them.... who is seth? and you didn't mention'd horus..... i think all of them were son of ya jehova ( smilling) anti-christ in bible.................... i'll advice you to read more about those who you've mentioned........ infact, some of them were devils......and demon...... besides, if adam is son of ALLAH(Azwajal) and ur jehova is his father.... who is adam's mother? hope is not al-lat

i just quoted d Bible for u. If you want to refute it, refute it from the Bible

emrain:
The bible says a lot of things of which 98% are complete bullshït. If you weren't deluded you'd know this.

my brother, its so easy to deny d existence of the supernatural wen u r in ur comfort zone. Ur belief or unbelief in evilspirits, doesn't change d fact dat dey exist.

baddyoosha:
what's the best way

its quite simple. Witchcraft is a covenant between a human spirit and familiar spirits and in dis covenant, d evil spirit possesses d person and uses his/her spirit to perpetrate evil. D truth is that 80% of witches today are desirous to b set free but dey are afraid of d evil spirit in them. Jesus called us as Christians to set d captives free and not to kill dem. For your own protection, you need to make sure ur relationship with God is intact and by so doing, no witch or evilspirit can touch you. U can go a step further by intercession for the witch so dat dey can be set free. If you know a witch, u can preach to the person and as soon as d person is ready to accept Jesus, you will be able to cast d evil spirit out.

vfactor:
So Allah isn't a father even if he gave us life?

We Christians make mistakes wen we refuse to see d difference between Jehova and allah.

Smartoscope007:
Owkay.... he is a servant of ALLAH.... he is neither a son or brother of ALLAH.... but a servant...

dat is to prove to you dat ur Allah is different from my Jehova. Adam is d son of Jehova
Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Luke 3:37-38 KJV
http://bible.com/1/luk.3.37-38.KJV

brize:
Earpiece is not a street thing, people should stop watching and copying every shit they see on television because it does not happen for reality.... Earphone is for Dj in a club or you in your house simple....


I saw someone, a man in a ladies machine and putting on earpiece and was speeding to his speed ability but what drew my attention was how close one tipper that was go toward the same lane was to it and i am 100% sure that because of the earpiece he can not hear the horn of the tipper talk more of hearing the sound of it........then I wondered the song that boy or man will be listening that is worth more than his life(whether precious or useless life) and the preciouse lives of innocent people plying the road too..... Well i came to a conclusion that Black men are indeed useless

speak for yourself and your family members

Dekatron:
I didn't wanna let u sound smart, but if your formatted brain couldn't think, I will help u.




I don't believe in God. I said hell cell mate cos YOU WILL QUOTE ME TO TELL ME ABOUT HELL. IN DOING SO, CALL ME A FOOL. And Bible said :- ANYBODY THAT SAYS TO HIS BROTHER, RAKA (FOOL) is in the damnation of HELL



now I know you feel foolish

but that's what you are now. D Bible says its a fool that says there is no God

omenka:
Nigerians are such terrible procrastinators. Even if the deadline for this was to be extended a year further, we'd still have such crowd rushing to get theirs done on the last day.

Smh.

wat will u den say abt some silly banks like firstbank who still went ahead to deactivate accounts of customers who had done their bvn since aeons? I was quite embarassed wen i say d queue of customers wit similar case at d bank ytd.

Love can change the world. The guy responded to love, love is a very powerful force.

Dottore:
I got this on my profile by mistake:

"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."

Can someone help me get rid of it. The thought makes me feel sick. Save my Soul

this thing has been happening for too long now. Seun you need to do something about it. I know nairaland is ur business but at d same time, Jehova owns all. Nairaland shouldn't be a platform to force ur belief on others by writing it on their profile just because you are d admin