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PoliticsRe: Breaking News Democracy Day Changed From May 29th To June 12th by ozo13(m): 7:39pm On Jun 06, 2018
At ds juncture, i will say baba buhari na real politician.2019 is surely gonna be very interesting grin
CrimeRe: Doctor's Driver Brutalized By Edo Police After Being Arrested Near Marijuana by ozo13(m): 10:02pm On Jun 05, 2018
Hmmmmmmmm.no b small mata
HealthRe: JOHESU Suspends 43-day Strike, Orders Workers To Resume Work On Friday - Punch by ozo13(m): 12:33am On Jun 01, 2018
worlexy:
Those of us that are not, will write JAMB and choose to be the real doctor, not impostors.
lol.baba howfar
HealthRe: JOHESU Suspends 43-day Strike, Orders Workers To Resume Work On Friday - Punch by ozo13(m): 11:52pm On May 31, 2018
lordkush:
nigeria is indeed a shithole

so because the minister of health is a doctor,

minister of state a doctor

Even minister of labour is a doctor

all the cmd in federal and general hospitals are doctors


wher 're the nurses, med scientists, pharmacists, microbiologists, chemists, these 're all professionals. they attended universities
just like the doctors.


as it stands now. a house officer the lowest cadre of doctors earn 180k. I have seen the pay slip of a friend that works in irrua specialist teaching hospital.

I'm neither a doc or a pharmacist or a nurse
but the disparity and cheating is too much mhen.


let's call a spade a spade.
u haven't done a good job chief.please also ask a pharmacist doing his internship in that SAME irrua specialist hospital how much dey earn and compare.try also to do more brief research about that ur friend how much work he does in the hospital and also pick a pharmacist doing his internship and study how much service or the work load the person does and judge urself.u will realize dey r even short changing that ur friend compare to what d said pharmacist is earning base on the work load and also d different job description both offer.thanks chief
PoliticsRe: Gov. Fayose Commissions 19 Internal Roads In Rivers(photos) by ozo13(m): 5:48am On May 31, 2018
OneCorner:
Golden roofs everywhere.
Igbo shikodi grin
lol
Nairaland GeneralRe: Today Is My Birthday by ozo13(m): 5:51pm On May 30, 2018
mxpinky:
issa goal! Today is my birthday somebody wish me Good show me some love
new here though but i love ya'll
anebira
PoliticsRe: FFK Questions Why Naira And Army Coat Of Arms Have Arabic Inscriptions On Them by ozo13(m): 5:47pm On May 30, 2018
Solstar:
Jehovah and Allah are not the same Entity. That is the truth and that is what he is portraying. I already knew this fact after much research. Do not be fooled. Do a simple YouTube or Google search and you will be shocked instead of insulting someone who is right.

And do not respond to me without doing research on your internet device. Records from ancient times show that Jehovah and Allah are different entities. Just as Satan and Lucifer are different entities.
smiles. Jus ask ur Christian brothers in the north what they call God in Hausa. Also ask christain brothers in d Arab nations.No need for too many research. Smiles
HealthRe: JOHESU Agrees To Suspend Strike June 1 by ozo13(m): 3:34pm On May 30, 2018
madan:
Please let them continue o. sadThis stupid strike took my mum's life, so it's better they continue with their stupidity. JOHESU ko, ESU ni
heya.sorry about that.
HealthRe: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 8:05am On May 27, 2018
olutop:
You are correct for the pay during internship and housejob, lemme now breakdown the salary scale at the point of entry post NYSC for you, A physiotherapist earn 151000(25000 is the call allowance) a fresh doctor start with 249000(I knt say specifically wat d call allowance is) but all oda allowances are equal such as hazard and teaching as d case may be, d dff in dt salary scale is 64%, wat johesu want is 20% increament so awa salary can be 191000 wc is still 32% lesser dn a doctors own, and they keep shouting we want equal pay...
Now base on the present salary scale for a physiotherapist, pharmacist or lzab scientist to earn dt 249000 of a fresh doctor you mst use atleast 10years in civil service, all wat johesu want is jst 20% of salary across CONHESS salary scale dtz all and NMA kip shouting equality. The issue of skipping is still there for doctors to enjoy and no Phyio, pharmacist is allow to reach the post of a Director in there own field till dey retire wat we get to is Deputy or Assistant Director.
Another issue is d issue of professional autonomy and specialty, I will leave dz 4 now....
oh I see.I think both side should jus sort things out amicably sha by sitting both side down during d negotiation.emmm the 151000 and d 25000 u quoted are the separate or 25k is part of the 151000 also the oda allowances u mentioned .are they part of d 151000.thanks
HealthRe: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 11:42pm On May 26, 2018
olutop:
Stop saying wat you dnt know, I am a physiotherapist work in UBTH, my superiors that have used 10years is not receiving wat a fresh doctor is receiving....10years afta service o
jst to breach it and make the dff to be 34% frm 64% dff u guys no gree.....u guys are jst greedy
please what is d basic salary a new post nysc physiotherapist earn.cos I know the salary difference then between and intern pharmacist and an intern Doctor wasn't much.I think 40k or so.one earning 120+ n d other 160k plus.please sincerely tel me what a new post nysc guy get as a start.please break it down to basic salary and d allowances.thanks.I really wanna know the truth.please also explain the 34 and 64% u mentioned. Thanks
HealthRe: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 11:58am On May 26, 2018
AlphaT1:
I told my MBBS colleague of mine some days ago that if not for people like him I would think reading MBBS in Nigeria makes one myopic and stupid that you can't even use google to get information. We are both HSE professionals. We discussed at length objectively pointing out the issues, JOHESU has its blame no doubt about that but NMA as the head of the health sector has really bastardized the health sector. From the ministers of health to commissioners of health, CMDs, MDs, boards of health institutions etc. are all doctors yet our hospitals keep deteriorating only for NMA to turn and blame JEHOSU instead of holding their colleagues (who are leaders of the sector) accountable.

Whenever I hear NMA saying 'international best practice' I wonder whether they have their own definition of the phrase. Because in developed world like UK, US, and Canada hospitals are headed by administrators who can be anybody with requisite administrative skills, the doctors and other health workers concentrate on offering clinical services as a team with mutual respect for one another. The USA surgeon general for instance, is a nurse, NMA cannot allow this happen in Nigeria yet still quote international best practices. The head of WHO is a biologist from Ethiopia.
The consultant cadre issue, according to NMA would confuse the patient, as if Nigeria or JOHESU invented it; this is obtainable in the UK, US, and Canada that are ranked among the top 10 ..so which one is NMA's international best practices?
NMA also does not allow any non-medical doctor to do MPH in Nigeria, only doctors are qualified to do it; a program that any science graduate can do even at Harvard and the likes. This is pathetic. You cannot continue to suppress and oppress someone and expect him/her not to react at some point.
It is the right of every civil servant to rise to the peak of his or her career (which is director) but NMA oppressed other health workers for many years saying that if others get to the director level, it will confuse the patient. I dont know how! JOHESU had to go to court to get judgement some few years ago.
I can go on and on and on ......
The crisis in the health sector is as a result of failure of our leaders aided by the NMA who has refused to carry the others along as the head of the team. Just recently the Canadian medical association rejected their pay increase insisting that the govt must increase that of allied health workers first. The opposite is d case in Nigeria.
most of all u said are true but I don't agree with some of ur assertions.
MPH (master in public health) is offered by non MBBS holders in Nigeria. U can check unilorin website.majority of the MPH students are not medical Doctors.
Also What some of ur senior colleagues that want to be addressed as a consultant want is jus base on year of service/experience and not necessarily going to your post graduate schools .i stand to be corrected anyway cos I stand for the truth"in senator dino voice grin
On the hospital administrator, I think JOHESU have an eye on it too .that's why JOHESU is asking for deputy CMAC position or so.on this I think d NIgeria constitution gave Doctors this position/advantage.my opinion: d thing should be given to an administrator and other guys can be asked to join the committee as it is done in saner clime.
Solution to all ds health sector fracas is to invite all stake holders both medical Doctors and JOHESU guys to the table let all find a lasting solution.
But I jus dey laugh guys wn dey have to gang up with cleaners ,gate men , generator guys in this fight.that's telling u how things have degenerated in this our country.
HealthRe: JOHESU Summons Emergency Meeting Over Court Order - Guardian by ozo13(m): 10:41am On May 26, 2018
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Oyerinde16:
IF WHAT JOHESU IS FIGHTING FOR IS EQUITY NOT EQUALITY WHAT'S D BIG DEAL, IF IT WILL TAKE A PHARMACIST, LAB SCIENTISTS, RADIOLOGIST ETC 12 YRS TO EARN WHAT A FRESH DOCTOR START WITH, Ngige TOLD THEM ALL IS SET 4 IMPLEMENTATION BUT MIN OF HEALTH IS BLOCKING IT, Bleep D DOCS
chief baba.that one no be true o.I think that 12yrs u refer to is jus for the nurses with Diploma in govt hospitals. Pharmacist and oda guys I think earn good pay.it also take the same diploma nurse 9years before he/she can earn same salary a new lab scientist , pharmacist and radiologist u mentioned earn for a start when they get a federal govt job.I don't know about state govt workers sha.I stand to be corrected anyway
HealthRe: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by ozo13(m): 5:51am On May 24, 2018
worlexy:
please give me the link to download this stuff. is this the yayale they've been talking about
I have it on my fone in PDF format.I don't know how I can send it
HealthRe: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by ozo13(m):
Until both parties are ready to make some sacrifice ,things will never go right in this country

HealthRe: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by ozo13(m):
We know the solution but Nigeria factor will always play it role and at the end noting work

HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m):
skabber2:
Ingrate brothers? You see, thats the problem we are talking about. So Pharmacists should be grateful to doctors for allowing them to earn wages? You guys are pathetic. it wont always remain this way, that i know.
am sure u saw d uploaded table and also the part I said Doctors r bn short changed compared to what d other guys r earning in d hospital and d nature of work each side does.as a medical Doctor for each contact a patient HV with other professionals, he/she must HV had contact with Doctor. for example a patient that HV minor illness like say uncomplicated urinary tract infection.first contact in d hospital is either to go to the record person to obtain folder for the Doctor to see the patient. Thats likely going to be d on contact of the patien with the Record person. Doctor try to take a brief/elaborate history as d case may be from the patient.u examine the patient.u now send d patient to go run some test in d laboratory say urine M/c/s , urinalysis and possibly test to rule out other disease entity that may give the patient same symptom.that is likely d only contact the patient is going to have with d laboratory guys. He obtain d laboratory result and still com back and meet his Doctor, u now take a decision and write prescriptions for the patient to go see a pharmacist to get his or her drugs and probably get an explanation too from d pharmacist on how to use it(probably the only contact the patient is still going to have with the pharmacist).some funny patient still get d drug and come back to meet d Doctor for another round of explanations. The same patient still book an appointment with the Doctor for followup visitation may be after few days for the Doctor to know about the patient well being.if na complicated case that Will require admission, thats wr a Nurse comes in. u can see the work is quite more demanding for the Doctors. No body is saying u guys are not important. Everyone is important in his own chosen field.so even if we all had spent the same 5 year in school u can't still expect us to earn the same thing becos of the nature of job each side does.
Era of monkey dey work more and baboon dey/wan chop more no go dey possible again.na governmt employ all of us.u ppl are asking for 20% increment and by so doing we end up getting almost d same salary despite the different work load.we r telling the same government to also increase our own by 20% for salary relativity to be maintained. Shikena.all of us be government pikin.lol.i rest my case.weldone brother..
Lastly i think everybody should be proud of his or her chosen career.this i like about the whites.Instead of a lab scientist or a technician to hang stethoscope and be parading himself as "Doctor of diagnosis". Lol
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m): 5:57am On May 21, 2018
Qasaforlife:
Am a female. I think they just want the government to increase their salary because of the high cost of living at least a top up .
oh sorry.tot u r a guy.NMA is not against salary increment for them.we also want our own share of the increment.so that we won't end up receiving the same cash and doing a more demanding work than them.infact every worker in ds our country deserve a 50% salary increment
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m): 7:27pm On May 20, 2018
Qasaforlife:
you know the Truth about the situation on ground but you want to join your colleagues in fighting an unjust war. That is the problem in Nigeria. Seeing the truth but difficult to voice it out because of victimization. Am not in the health sector but I have followed this problem and Nma has had an upgrade in their salary 3times in one year,,why can't others have theirs no matter how little
please use this to judge and see for urself how Doctors are being shortchanged in termed of salary relativity in Nigeria compared to those other countries. And our ingrate brothers wanna earn the same thing .check the website and judge urself

HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m):
Qasaforlife:
you know the Truth about the situation on ground but you want to join your colleagues in fighting an unjust war. That is the problem in Nigeria. Seeing the truth but difficult to voice it out because of victimization. Am not in the health sector but I have followed this problem and Nma has had an upgrade in their salary 3times in one year,,why can't others have theirs no matter howlittle
thanksfor ur observation. I don't think dr is any thing like victimization here.lets jus educate each oda.first dr is this thing dey call salary relativity.nma discovered that relativity is what ds guys r trying to abolish stylishly. Dey wait for nma to go negotiate, they in turn go behind close door to go negotiate too and nma discover that after negotiation dr is always pay parity between a Doctor and oda guys instead of the usual relativity WC should be 2:3:4 ( nurse:pharmacist/lab guys and other bsc holders: doctor) meaning if a nurse is to earn 80k (due to her nature of work which is base on shift and she also enjoy 12 to 15 free days in a month) , a pharmacist is to earn 120k and a Doctor to earn 160k .this is what relativity is all about.in advance clime, the relativity is 1:2:3 I think(I stand to be corrected). So u can see Nigeria kinda relativity favours them than Doctors originally. What this guys r now asking for from the government is for them to be stepped up by 20% in such a way that the pharmacist and others earning around 120k will now turn to around 150k(WC is what we theDoctor termed pay parity).please judge for urself .will it be fair on the Doctors whose work in d hospital is more demanding than ds other professionals. So NMA is now trying to remind the FG to also remember us when they are implementing the 20% increment for others (this is what johesu guys so don't want).u can see bro.by the time u start hearing people saying things like dey all went to d same university that dey dont see why dr should be salary difference.please tell me is dis not parity dis guys want.it is also worthy of note to let ppl know that mbbs degree is a combination of 2 bachelor degrees (medicine and surgery degree together- no pride intended.smiles).so our brothers with Bachelor in dr various field of study know how difficult it is to achieve that bachelor degree let alone someone/Doctors DAT had to be patient to obtain 2 of such bachelor degrees. it is important we educate dem that all are not the same certificate even though we all went to same university.bro am waiting for ur reply
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m): 2:46pm On May 20, 2018
mrtegation99:
Keep Quiet Blinded slowpoke! Get the facts right. We aren't seeking equivalence but a fair increase in salary and welfare as we also have direct contact with patients. I'm speaking on behalf of Nurses. We're so underrated in Nigeria. That's why Nigeria is losing its best nurses to UK, US, Canada and Australia
smiles. Please tell us the salary relativity ratio for Doctor/nurses(diploma)/Nurses (Bsc.)/pharmacist and others in UK/US/Canada and Australia u are talking about.compared to what a Doctor is earning in Nigeria now, nurses(diploma)/ nurses(B.sc)/pharmacist/lab scientists and others with Bsc. own I think is fair too. U and i know even an administrator in the hospital under FG earn more than his /her colleagues outside the hospital despite doing the same work and also under FG payroll.But I can say both Doctor and Nurses are earning far below what our colleagues in those countries u mentioned are earning. So NMA is telling FG to remember us too o if u r going to increase JOHESU member salary by 20% so that by that increment we will not start earning the same thing or almost the same thing when the job description is far more different. So we are not against ur salary increment but U guys should not forget our own 20% too so that we will not end up striking too when u guys resume. Am sure u guy don't want FG to gv us that same 20% meaning we r going to be earning almost same thing by u guys logic/calculations.una think say una smart.
HealthRe: PHOTOS: Doctors Treat 19 Striking Health Workers Involved In Motor Accident by ozo13(m): 2:35pm On May 20, 2018
tabaski:
LIES. Those involved in the accident are cleaners @ ABUTH and not JOHESU members. NMA with their over-bloated ego. JOHESU never asked for pay parity with Doctors but appreciable increase in their pay as agreed by FG earlier. OP get fact before posting
so cleaner are not part of johesu now. Why are u denying cleaners when they needed u guys most.tot u guys said 95% of the staffs in the hospital r johesu(cleaners inclusive too) and d remaining 5% bn doctors.in my centre, that was how dey deceived ward attendants/cleaners to join them in d strike.by the time FG applied no work no pay principle for them hunger drove dos cleaners back to work.lol
NYSCRe: 2018 Kebbi BATCH A- Corp Member "Let's Meet Here" by ozo13(m): 11:52pm On May 16, 2018
Abeg make una add my on the kebbi watsap page. Tried several time to use the link,it didn't work.thanks.08062551667
HealthRe: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by ozo13(m):
stonemasonn:
a registered nurse of over 20 years experience who is a specialist in say oncology should earn much more than a fresh medical graduate.

Moreover before government sign any agreement with JOHESU, government should include licenses and examinations every two years for all JOHESU members. No exam no license, no license no job and no salary review.
sure a nurse with such experience u quoted surely earn more than a fresh MBBS graduate. I think d current relativity for health workers in Nigeria is 2:3:4 that's is if a nurse with ND certificate not Bsc earns 60k what d relativity is all about is that a nurse with Bsc, a pharmacist and other guys in the hospital with Bsc is expected to earn 90k and an MBBS holder that is a Doctor is expected to earn 120k .I think its fair enough in ds country cos in other countries like say US or UK its 1:2:3 relativity.I stand to be corrected anyway .that is if govt is going to increase salary for JOHESU guys d govt shouldn't forget relativity and dats what ds NMA memo is all about.that is NMA is also expecting d govt to increase theirs too.base on the relativity arrangement already on ground. I think all we need in ds country is jus to have understanding among ourselves.or else we all are going to suffer d consequences of all ds strikes.I have seen when casala happened, the person striking was like saying please forget ds strike and help me becos of God.May God help us
PoliticsRe: Dino Melaye: Kogi CJ Orders Police To Move Senator To Abuja National Hospital by ozo13(m): 5:13pm On May 04, 2018
We don suffer for ds country
PoliticsRe: Buhari’s SGF Spends N65 Million On OSGF WEBSITE by ozo13(m): 11:55am On Feb 20, 2018
Nawao.APC ,PDP aside ooo.cos ds is a serious matter if d allegation is true.We r finished in ds country.
.and with d way things are going, no light at d end of the tunnel ooo.
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Attacks GGSS Dapchi In Yobe, Students Feared Abducted by ozo13(m): 10:33pm On Feb 19, 2018
BluntBoy:
Jesu!!! Funke!!!
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Dele Taiwo And Doyin His Wife Welcome Their First Child (Photos) by ozo13(m): 12:46pm On Feb 18, 2018
3 bossa for d wife
Nairaland GeneralRe: Train Kills LASU Final Year Student And Unilag Phd Student (photo) by ozo13(m): 7:57pm On Feb 13, 2018
Nawao
RomanceRe: Reno Omokri Talks About Virginity With Fish As Illustration (Photo) by ozo13(m): 2:26pm On Feb 13, 2018
Nawao
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Is Home To A Terrorist Government – Australian Islamic Scholar by ozo13(m): 4:12pm On Feb 08, 2018
It's both APC n PDP d guy accused from his statement not jus d present APC lead govt. Cos he said something like how boko haram wr treated by govt in dr early days.abi was it APC that ruled Nigeria in d early days of bokoharam.funny enough d guy doesn't understand how things work in ds part of the world from his statements.he is a shite I guess
CrimeRe: Slay Queen Curses Yahoo Boys For Using Her Friend "Classic White" For Ritual by ozo13(m): 9:29pm On Jan 22, 2018
jaxxy:
Wen gals tell me they can't date yahoo boys i just laff. Going out with a rich guy without knowing the source of his income is risky business...

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