₦airaland Forum

PortHarcourtcit:
Basket mouth don open mouth again ooo, person wey never finish the matter for him palace naim dey put mouth for NNPC matter...

Why him no go put?

Anambra and Kaduna no get COVID 19 cases ni?

koning:
Zamfara N49b, Ogun N2b, Enugu N6b. Even Lagos collect N5b. Why the disparity?.


E be like say Anambra go collect their own from Obi Cubana en Blord.



Ndi Ala.....

JTCHI:
What's happening in Zamfara state that made them receive the highest share?

COVID 19 leave china and go build house in Zamfara state and live there.

Creamypie:
Delta and bayelsa own them go use am carry ashawo within 2 days

oluwaseyi0:
Delta is not in top 10

they are in number 14th, there is a first table

what is the basis for this reimbursement

The basis is social welfare register compiled in the north by the north and domiciled in the north.
That's why zamfara and other northern states got far more than your state.
My state even got one of the least in that table.It is a pity.

RainMoreDFARMS:
Just like this fool, always disturbing me she wants to come to my place as if my place is heaven that's she's "dieing" to come.
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A single mother of just 1 child with the widest borehole I have ever seen in my life.
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Lies like kilode.

But you were supposed to be a female nah?
Why will another lady want to die of seeing you who is a fellow lady like her?

Or are you using the "F" in your gender to be deceiving people here in Nairaland?

Abeg,how many months remain for this them tenure?

Them go get time fight this their matter go reach supreme court?
Tenure no go finish leave the case?

Henrolla:
Power tussle. Everyone fighting for personal interest in this country.

If someone explains Nigeria to you and you understand it, then the person didn't explain well.

seunmsg:
Dear Good2go1,
Please be guided and stop lying.

Those Instagram people shouting that the president appointed 6 S/Westerners out of 10 new appointment don't know what the were saying.That is why you are able to flaw them in their argument.

The right thing they would have said should have been that the president appointed 6 people from the Yorubas ethnic nationality out of the 10 newly appointees.Because those ones in the two N/Central states of Kogi and Kwara are still Yorubas.

When people like us were shouting Fulanization agenda of PMB,we didn't mean he appointed people only from N/W that he is from.But that he appointed people from Fulani decent all over the entire northern states into juicy positions.

So the people should have talked about YORUBANIZATION agenda and not S/Westernization agenda else they will defeat themselves in their own argument just as what you are doing to them now.

Having said that,I want to say that those Instagram people shouting federal character this and that in Tinubu's appointment don't have work to do.
When PMB did it with his kinsmen,did heaven fall?
The immediate past government has set a bad precedent and every successive government must follow.

In 9ja, when a bad thing persist for a long time,it eventually becomes good in the eyes people.
So with time, nobody will see this as being bad again.

As for me,I cannot talk about such a petty thing again.The past 8 years I talked about it didn't change anything through out that government.
The only thing I can talk about now is bad economy and insecurity in the land.

So let every tribe go and wait for their turn.Anybody that can't wait can locate the nearest river and fall inside.

Empiree:
I know you tried hard to make sense out of this. Your logic is, Fulani historically lived there. Fine. No argument. Don't forget we are dealing with analogy here and not about Fulanis is real world.

So Fulanis came in 1948 after centuries of absence to reclaim their "ancestral home". Well, there is something called statutory law. To lay claim on a land in 20th century based on ancient documents is statutory barred. The UN and superpowers did not give Fulani Yorùbá land based on historic records but based on persecution of Fulani in Fulani dominated region which led them to be homeless. They became homeless that's why UN gave a new home in Yorùbáland.

If you disagree, will the USA give back America to the native Americans known as red Indians after just few hundred years they were obliterated?

Will Australia give back Australia land to the native Australians known as aboriginals?.

Will Canada and New Zealand give back the land to the natives they obliterated hundreds of years ago?.

If your answer is no, why should Yoruba give back their land to Fulanis after thousands of years?. This is called double standards and inconsistencies.

Ok,since we are respecting each other by arguing without abusing and insulting ourselves as the case is often is in Nairaland here.
So I will like to engage you further.
The examples you are citing here are quite different from the subject matter (i. e Yorubas and Fulanis analogy) entirely.

1. The Red indies where not driven away and totally forced into exile as the result of war by the Europeans who came and occupied their land.Rather,they were conquered and forced to surrender to the European invaders.So till today,they are still living in their land , totally fused with their conquerors without demanding for a separate state from the people who conquered them some centuries ago.The same thing with Aborigines of Australia and Canada that you mentioned.

2. But in the case of analogical Yorubas and Fulanis we are talking about here.The Fulanis were never conquered by the Yorubas that now occupy their land.Lets assume Igala fought war with the Fulanis and drove them out of the land but they themselves didn't take over the Fulanis land.When the Igala kingdom fell,they withdrew their government totally from the land.Through out this period,the Yorubas were never in the picture of things there at all.And all of a sudden,the Yorubas emerged from nowhere and lay claim on the land illegally.
Mind you I said "illegally" because their claim of the country/land negate the two ideal methods of establishing a state/community in the olden days.
These methods are;
a. Going into a virgin forest and deforesting it to establish your new kingdom there.

b. Fighting wars with the perceived weaker community/kingdom and subduing them to either be under your new rulership as vassals or forcing them to migrate entirely out of their original land into a new established community.
In either of the cases,they won't come back to the land again.


But in this case,the "Yorubas" didn't conquered the Fulanis land in war neither did they also DISVIRGIN the land to establish their state.You cannot just see an already established community though with scanty population and you lay claim to it when you didn't conquered them militarily nor deforest the land.So the Fulanis in exile still have full legal rights to their homes no matter the length of time they have been in exile.It should interest you to know that if it was the Igalas (Romans )who conquered them that are the ones occupying that land till today,the world would have had a different view of the matter and things would have been handled differently.

So my submission is that the "Yorubas" are the illegal occupiers of the land and as such should abide by whatever conditions given to them by the "Fulanis" the original owner of the state.Period!

Well,Comrades Joe Ajero and Festus Osifo,unah try sharr.
No be una fault.Anything (hardship and suffering) wey remain make those people wey been the beef organized labour say them only fight for the welfare of workers as if na only civil servants dey Nigeria follow go fight Tinubu for the welfare of their members of Non-Civil Servants Association of Nigeria.

CyrusVI:
That guy is actually being realistic

To Abians, this 70k only exists in Jupiter as they dont even know what it feels like to have their salary structured on the 30k minimum wage


Of what use is the phantom 100k to them if they'll never get to receive it

I'm a realist and that's how to live life

Nawa for una .oo,so because of Abia state alone FG and other states should remain in 30k or 18k salary as a benchmark forever?

Empiree:
When they invented internet, they invented it for research studies. Internet supposed to make you more educated but I am surprised how du.mb you are. What you said here is exactly the propaganda the zionists fed you and you can't use your brain to do independent research.

Let's keep it simple maybe you will understand. I am sure you are Nigerian. Let's say you are a Yoruba man. Some Fulani came from North in 1948 to seek refuge in Yorùbáland. In the process they drove out half of Yoruba population with the help of superpowers. You tried to resist them but they overpowered you. Now they said your option is to divide your land. They said 80% of your land is for Fulani. 20% of the land for you. You disagree ofcourse and you rebelled against them and the more you rebel the more they confiscated more land of your 20% for 40 years.

And they are telling you that the 20% of your land is for you to create your state and you said no. The whole land is one for everyone with equality but they said no.

Forty years later, a group of Yoruba started resistance against Fulani till date and Fulani keep telling you that you had the opportunities to create your state on 20% of the land given to you. How sensible this is buddy?. Do the math yourself.

Don't come here to talk me they are Israelites from Moses and the Bible said this and that. I don't want to hear what your Bible says. I want reality

Your analogy is incomplete.It should have gone thus;
the Fulanis owned and lives in the land for ages.Then a war broke out between them and world Super Power (Roman Empire) and the Fulanis were massacred and about 95% of them driven away from their ancestral land to scatter all over the north.After few years,the Yorubas come and occupy that land.Then in 1948,the Fulanis now said to themselves,now that the Roman Empire has collapsed,the dreaded Gen Titus is no more there and there's no more war again,let us go back to our ancestral land.Then upon coming back,they noticed the Yorubas now live in their land.For peace to reign,they offer voluntarily to give the Yorubas some portion of the land down south of the land instead of sending them back to their land in the neigbouring Yorubas towns which they originally came from.But the Yorubas refused.Claiming the land is theirs and that they want to take from the costal line of Eko to Ile Ife which is the capital.The fulanis then said no,that the yorubas shouldn't even mention Ile Ife,that that is where their Alter for worshipping of their God is.The Yorubas responded that during the time of Fulanis exile that they have also built their Alter for the worship of their God in the same Ile Ife.And they started fighting the Fulanis.Then in 2024,the Fulanis then said that they won't even give part of their land to the Yorubas again as their independent state.The war broke out and continues............

So that is how the analogy should look like,not the incomplete one you drew to whip sentiment.

osaro84:
In Nigeria, state governments have significant powers over Local Government Areas (LGAs) due to the country's federal system and constitutional provisions. Here are some reasons why state governments tend to have power over LGAs:

1. Constitutional provisions: The Nigerian Constitution grants states significant powers over LGAs, including the power to create, merge, or dissolve LGAs.

2. Funding: State governments are responsible for allocating funds to LGAs, which gives them significant control over local government activities.

3. Appointments: State governments often have the power to appoint key LGA officials, such as council chairmen or administrators.

4. Legislative powers: State legislatures have the authority to make laws governing LGAs, including laws related to taxation, land use, and public order.

5. Oversight: State governments are responsible for monitoring and supervising LGA activities, which can lead to interference in local government affairs.

6. Historical context: Nigeria's federal system has evolved over time, with state governments gradually gaining more powers over LGAs.

7. Political considerations: State governments often exert control over LGAs to consolidate political power, influence local politics, or gain access to resources.

8. Administrative convenience: State governments may find it easier to manage LGAs directly, rather than allowing them to operate independently.

9. Capacity building: State governments may argue that LGAs lack the capacity or resources to manage certain functions effectively, justifying state intervention.

10. Security considerations: In some cases, state governments may intervene in LGA affairs to address security concerns or maintain public order.

It's important to note that this doesn't mean LGAs are powerless or lack autonomy entirely. However, the current system and constitutional provisions give state governments significant influence over LGAs. Efforts to strengthen local government autonomy and reduce state control are ongoing in Nigeria.

I don't think your point 1 is correct.
The constitution doesn't give the state power to create any L.G.If they had such constitutional powers,then the 42 LCDA created by Tinubu in Lagos state would have gained full legal recognition by now.
But till today,the constitution still talks about 774 L.G.

Kukutenla:
Agim has been giving funny judgement. He's the same dude who made that disgraceful judgement about deposition signed but not stamped in Atiku’s case.
The Supreme Court simply carried out a coup on the constitution. Section 2 clearly outlined the federating units and only states and fct are mentioned.
Besides, the Fourth Republic is not Nigeria's first attempt at a federal system. We had it in 1960 as well as 1979 and both had only two tiers making up the federation. Even with the existence of districts and provinces in 1960, only the regions and the federal power existed as federating units.
Same in 1979, only the states and fg were the federating units.
What the SC did was an anomaly. It was not a landmark judgement but a shameful one. It negated the spirit and purpose of our federalism under the guise that some politicians are not behaving well. Bad behaviour of individuals or groups should be punished not the system upended. It makes it look like they are more powerful than the system.
To the myopic lots who keep fantasising a sweet end to this bizarre judgement, a rude shock awaits them. Illegality can only beget illegality. It doesn't matter what stamp you use on it.

You clearly stated in your submission that 1960 and 1979 constitutions only recognized 2-tiers of government.....FG and SG.But you failed to affirm emphatically how many tiers of government the 1999 constitution recognizes.
Perhaps,the SC based their judgement on the 1999 constitution and not 1960 own you quoted.

So,the state Houses of Assembly are only there to force L.G Chairmen to respect governors even when governors are oppressing and stealing their funds?

If any chairman thinks he can disrespect governor because he is now getting his allocation directly from the F.G,the state House of Assembly will ask him to go home and disrespect the governor from home bla bla bla.

So what about the governors that do disrespect the president,has the N/Assembly ever ask them to go home and disrespect the president from home?
Beneficiary of illegality that still wants illegality to continue.
It won't work like that again this time around, Mr former governor.

Meanwhile, have you gone to EFCC and pick your sleeping mat that you took to their cell?

Unperturbedpota:
Your grammar is really poor for someone assumed to be a university graduate

1. Punctuation:

Double periods ".." should be replaced with a single period or ellipsis "..." for consistency.
The second sentence uses ".." twice, which is incorrect.

2. Grammar:

"rid himself off the mess" should be "rid himself of the mess."
"brought upon him by Trump administration" should include "the" before "Trump administration."
The phrase "If not, why this act.." is unclear and informal. It needs clarification and correct punctuation.
The tag "[/b]" seems to be an unintended formatting code.

3. Informal Language:

"Imagine say Buhari wanted to extend his stay then..." is informal. It should be rephrased for clarity and formality.

4. Clarity and Conciseness:

The overall message is somewhat fragmented and can be more concise.


Corrected Version
Thank God he wasn't a Democrat.

The poor guy couldn't rid himself of the mess brought upon him by the Trump administration. Otherwise, why would he act this way?

Imagine if Buhari had wanted to extend his stay back then...

Da, English teacher no be here..oo.
See as him take him time to dey analyze the error one by one.
Him dey very serious.
Chai,I don laff tire

Abeg make England win..ooo,Kane don too suffer for many years without trophy.

Kukutenla:
Nobody is saying LGs should not control their funds. What we're calling attention to is the illegality and the arbitrariness of the SC judgement. You can't use a wrong to cure another. It's like using AIDS to cure HIV.
1. One thing you guys refuse to consider is that the SC has summarily trashed section 6 of the constitution which also gives LGs the right to share from the states IGR all in favour of the federal allocation. I honestly don't understand the obsession with federal allocation. Each LG actually gets a measly 0.033% of the federal allocation. If you do the maths, each LG will get an average of 200m per month for a 1trn FAAC. That's what you guys are dancing as if it's megabucks. States like Rivers and Lagos whose IGR by far exceed their federal allocation will be smiling now with the reality that they don't need to share their IGR with LGs again since there's no joint account anymore.

2. There's a smarter, legal way to do this than this abomination of turning the SC to a legislative body. The constitution empowers NASS and state legislatures to make laws on sharing formula and transfer of funds. If Tinubu can get NASS to do something frivolous like changing national anthem, why can't he get them to do something meaningful like making genuine laws instead of this arbitrariness?

Ok

Coldie:
It’s foolish to enact LG autonomy when details on the responsiblilities of state has not been outlined.

If states can’t control LG then what’s the use of the states then?

LG autonomy would only be good if state police existed

You are getting it wrong.The LG autonomy was there long before the advent of the joint account something.
Ask yourself,how the states function when there was LG autonomy in the past.
Or were states not functioning as at then?

For your information,the constitution has already spelled out the functions of the states.The FG,SG and the LG have their different functions in the constitution.
Take for instance in the area of health,the LG is responsible for primary healthcare,the state responsible for secondary healthcare while the FG is responsible for tertiary healthcare facilities.
In terms of road construction/maintenance,there are what we called trunk A,B and C roads in this country.Trunk A is for federal,B is for state while C is for LG.
The list of functions go on and on.
So I don't understand what exactly you mean by giving functions to the state as if they didn't have any function all along apart from controlling L.G funds.
And what has state police got to do with supreme court granting financial autonomy to the L.G?

Ojuntana:
How is it a big one? Kindly explain. The LGAs will suddenly start doing great and mighty deeds abi? No looting, structure or godtaherism just pure and unadulterated service to the people abi?

Nobody is saying most of the Chairmen won't be corrupt.They are all politicians.An average politician in Nigeria is corrupt.But the thing is that,just like the governors,some of them perform very poorly while a few numbers of them do perform a little above average.We have seen few instances where many ex-governors were made to give account of their stewardship in EFCC custody/law court.Those found guilty were convicted like the one speaking now.

So in the same spirit,we should also allow LG Chairmen to control their funds.Those that will perform well will perform and those that won't perform are there too.But there is a law to catch up with any of them who will embezzle the money meant for the development of grassroots areas.

So for the state governor's to technically scrap out the L.G for fear that the chairman will embezzle the money or will not perform well is an affront to the constitution that created the L.G.

The question you should ask yourself is,why has the FG not technically scrap out the states whose past and present governors have not been performing well just as the governors are doing to the LG?

senatordave1:
Rubbish.go and delete it

Him collapsed for stealing?
Orrr e don pass our national grid!

🤣🤣🤣😆

Among all of them,nah Mercedes 230 strong pass.

comrChris:
ought to have visited Fubara?
Didn't Fubara join hand with Wike to deal with Atiku in the last election?

Chai,I bin want follow talk the same thing the guy wey you quote talk but later,I come think of wetin you just say now and I decide to kip silent.
Dis matter no easy..ooo.

BERNIMOORE:
Odili is shocked with the Appeal Judgement, dont you see fubara quoting the book of psalms to console himself

😆🤣🤣

Pauladoyi:
The best option for the governor now is to the join the All Progressive Congress (APC)... once that is done, nobody can witch hunt him again. The party will protect from his foes

But you no hear wetin Tony Okocha dey even rant before and after the Appeal court judgement?
So you think say that kind man go even gree give am membership form?

Peacecore:
E be like say U too new for dis session how u go too look down on Wike laidat?

gazza07:
Pdp is a very useless and nonsensical party. Only after sharing money. Little brother to demonic apc

@little brother to demonic APC

Goodvibes007:
I agree. Even his fellow PDP governors are on Wike's side.

Apart from PDP Federal lawmakers,the rest of the PDP stakeholders are watching from the sidelines.

Blazebond:
The nigerian judicial system is messed up sha because how can you say that a state high court lacks the jurisdiction to hear a case concerning state house of assembly embers,I just tire for our constitution and judiciary,of it was to be a federal law maker,then I will understand,but these guys are state law makers.

No, they are right.
The state high court doesn't have the jurisdiction to entertain the case.
Because the electoral body that conducted the election that brought them to power was/is INEC and not RSIEC.
Remember, INEC is a federal Agency and not Rivers State Agency.