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[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=363567.msg5072935#msg5072935 date=1260285410]never heard of him. . .by the way the dude looks all blinged out. . .he should have added gold grills. . .lol[/quote]Ya he looks like he feeds on all the oyo state govt money alone

]Considering the revenue Lagos State gets state like Enugu is trying Lets rate it

1) Fashola
2) Sullivan Chime

Pic below on enugu

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What of Gov Sullivan Chime of Enugu State ?

If you are given the opportunity to vote the best governor of the year who will you vote?

Sanusi is a good risk manager but a bad economist

Sanusi is doing the right thing in sanitizing these banks but doing it the wrong way

rasputinn:
Mmmm,mmm, _{shakes head} and who says he will resign or that the only way he'd leave that seat was only via resignation.Did Abacha resign

I don't wish he ends that way, resignation is more reasonable

There are many possible reason why many businesses fail in Nigeria. I will list a few below and would like you all to contribute.

1) High Cost of Operation
2) Lack of Appropriate planning
3) Economic reasons
4) Political Reasons
5) Lack of data and statistics , and so on

What do you think?

Yea I believe that reducing the functions of the president to very important ones like security, etc will help make the job of the presidency a lot better. But as you rightly said the President cannot leave the country for a long period of time. But in Yar'Adua case he is more or less dormant whether in the country or not hence the need for him to quit.

@poster Are you sure that is garri or are u just guessing? Even at that he can eat whatever he wishes to eat

Kobojunkie:
How can one be TALKING sense when the idea being spewed is that the office of president become a CEREMONIAL one? Is that what is obtained in other democracies ( assuming we are still playing the COMPARE with others when CONVENIENT game)? Don't we have enough of those ceremonial positions( obas, obis, emirs) already?

The man DID NOT fall sick while in office, he was ILL even before he took office. The problem is NOT his illness, but the mere fact that the man has managed to, in a period of 2.5 years forced the country into a stagnant situation. If he(yar adua) wants to claim his ILLNESS did it, then we can focus on booting him out as a man too sick to perform his duties, a move definitely in accordance with the constitution.

-paddy_lo has not been talking much sense, that the only little sense he had talked

-Office of the president can not be ceremonial else its no longer Presidential system of govt but our state govts should assume more responsiblities such as power, health, control of resources etc

-Thats why I said he has added to our problems instead of alleviating them.

However, Abba-Aji, THISDAY learnt, was on his way to the National Assembly when he opened one of the letters and read the content and then decided to advise the President against it.

If this story is true, then we all see the reasons why we have no president. How can he open the letter? This means they all take the man for granted because he is weak, Can that man do that to OBJ when he was in power?

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[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=360728.msg5062327#msg5062327 date=1260159017]u should be more interested in having a system that doesnt care if one man falls sick or not

nigeria is made up of 36 states,and if all states are performing optimally,nobody would care if yaradua is gone for 30days

i dont know what u mean by nothing is working,but ppl in lagos seem to love their governor

u should talk about replicating that all over nigeria

yar adua as 1 man cannot solve Nigerias problems

u should know that by now[/quote]-Now u are talking sense. Who will set up that system?

- You cannot say that because in Nigeria's context the federal govt has much responsiblities unlike in US where they are concerned with defense, International affairs and few other duties

-Yar'Adua is already one of Nigeria's problems, talk more of other problems, He shouldn't compound it by hanging on there.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=360728.msg5062273#msg5062273 date=1260157211]u can eeeek all u want,

u and i know america has had,more sick leaders than yaradua that didnt resign

if anything like i said this incident shows the relative stability of our system

if u are looking for a strongman. . .go to mubaraks egypt,biyas cameroon,mugabes zimbabwe,dos santos angola,bongos gabon,the new military fool in guinea,libyas qaddaffi,etiopias zelawi,congos kabilla,the military fool in niger and chad,sudans bashir,mauritanias despots,ugandas mousiveni,rwandas kigame,i could go on but i think u get the point

Nigeria may not be perfect,but its system is such that no tin-pot dictator is welcome here

let yar'adua get well and finish his term,in the meantime the democratic institutions in the country are holding up quite well

and i expect another shriek from u,since u have nothing intelligent to come up with[/quote]-You got it wrong Though we shouldn't compare with America yet American has never had a president that is sick in body and soul. US presidents are usually strong characters, even when a strong character is sick he still has influence and control over his subjects remember Kennedy, Castro, etc but ours is weak in body and soul.

-Stability? in terms of what? is it Niger Delta Issue, Power, Northern Fundamentalists etc, my friend what is still keeping this country together is because Majority of the mass are peace loving.

- You got it wrong, you think strong characters are dictators and military juntas. Nope people like AWO, Obama, Church hill, Ziks are strong characters that have influence and makes decisions when it matters.

-Strong characters aren't dictators

-We wish well but he should resign, moreover we have little or no democratic institution in this country do ur checks and tell me any institution that deserves that name in the government/public sector.

- You should expect it b/cos you talk no sense

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=360728.msg5062237#msg5062237 date=1260155814]we dont need no strong man. . .we need strong institutions

i actually think this yar'adua issue has been good for naija democracy. . .

the senate is functioning,the judiciary is functioning,and the executive council is meeting

these are all co-equal branches of govt

so lets try and move on. . .

[/quote]-Weak men like our president set up weak institutions whilst Strong institutions are set up by strong characters and men - so you got it wrong there

-Good for DEMO WHAT? You must be joking because his situation is more or less like b4 cos since he assume that post dis country has been on auto pilot with auto remote by some selfish individual with selfish interests. This shows in his choice of things. You see why we need strong character?

- Senate Functioning? We have a senate full of political thugs and rogues forget it this is no senate except few outstanding individuals.

-Go read your government text book

- We can move when the car is rolling downhill with more or less an unconscious driver. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS CHANGE THE DRIVER!

ayomidej:
He should not resign, he should finish his TERM.

When OBJ was there the country was far worse and its the mess he left that Yar'Adua is mopping up. Even the next President will do the same, OBJ was an slowpoke that finished Nigeria.

You can't say that

Kobojunkie:
You really believe the man has not heard the man calls for his resignation? I mean since year one, he has been hearing that same call. It increased in intensity this year but still the man does not seem to be budging. The ONLY way, it seems is for

a) People to unanimously URGE the house to REMOVE HIM( Last I checked, we are in a democracy)

b) and Our representatives to heed the demands of the people

The reason I say this is because technically,  We cannot get him on the basis of his health, even though w know he has made than an issue on way too many occassions. No where in the constitution does it mention that a president can be unsitted just because he is in invalid. We have to have proof that he is INCAPABLE of doing his job as a result. His records are probably not made public, and I highly doubt the reason for his non-performance is his health.

We also can't really get him for not informing the house before leaving on his many vacations because the constitution does not directly specify that he does BUT it can be put on the list as possible reason why WE THE PEOPLE are fed up with him, since we are his employers. However, technically, our hands are sort of tied BUT there is nothing wrong in TRYING or PUSHING for it anyways. I believe if pressure mounts to that extent, it might work.

Sure we can't get him out on health reasons but as you well said By and Large Our Mounting of pressure on him or the lawmakers will do the job.

ERROR ERROR Wat could be wrong?

OAM4J:
If the man was unable 2 reason while his health was still ok, i doubt he will be able to do so now. So we should mount pressure on the nat. ass. to remove him.

You are right. He ought to step down

Kobojunkie:
a) Ask him? You do know that WE are his employers? I am certain that man knows his record is not a good one. He is not blind.

b) Considering how UNSTABLE that country is, I think it is best we stick to RULE OF LAW when calling for the bugger to be BOOTED.

- Sure, but we can't sit dumb and not ask him to do the right thing

- RULE OF LAW? We have the right to ask him to go or force him through various means.

Kay 17:
/just another fashola lover/ this idiot thinks fashola is clean.

And you think Fashola is not working?

Kobojunkie:
a) If we sit expecting this man to come out and resign, then I think we are the SICK ONES in this case

b) The man knew of his situation prior to taking office. I don't believe the illness is REASON enough for his lack of performance. They are two different things and so I don't believe we can constitutionally state he is UNFIT to continue on the basis of his health

c) He screwed up mega as State Governor of Katsina ( ignore what those who are mesmerized by his "HONESTY" back then say and check the facts yourself), why would someone like that be able to handle BIGGER responsibility when he could not even handle Katsina?

-We should not expect him to resign! we should ask him!!
-It's not issue of constitutionality but necessity this country got to move forward

Buhari is the best option for now

Kobojunkie:
Why should he Resign? The same man did 8 SOLID years prior with next to no ACHIEVEMENT to show for all that time, why EXPECT him to RESIGN of his own accord now?

Because Nigeria is far to big and difficult to rule compared to Katsina. Moreover his health has deteriorated

Kay 17:
isn't he responsible enough to resign?

I wonder

[quote author=Paroh_frey link=topic=360728.msg5037339#msg5037339 date=1259781588]stale news.[/quote]Stale Opinion

Ten reasons why Yar'Adua should resign.
Who knows after reading these reasons his advisers will advise him on the best thing to do.

1) He is Seriously Sick
2) He has made Nigeria's situation Worse than he met it
3) He has Failed to declare STATE OF EMERGENCY ON POWER
4) He has not implemented any one of his seven point agendas
5) He lack the strong character to rule this country
6) To Take care of his health better
7) To Stop Nigerians from panicking and speculating anytime he travels outside
Because it is the wisest thing to do.
9) For Nigeria's Sake
10)For Posterity Sake.

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