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Sagamite:And will you be doing the re-engineering from London. For all we know you are probably in a mental health facility in London. You are completely out of touch with reality. You are having a superiority complex which makes you feel you have the right to determine what others should do. Yes you have your rights but others also have their own rights even to be foolish to you. Most of us should not vote but a kolomental like you in London probably without any voters card should be allowed to vote. You wanted to put me down but you have met your match. |
Sagamite:Thank God Dictators like you are not deciding who should have a right to vote. Just because you hate a person, does not mean that you should stop others from voting for that person. That is what democracy is all about. I am surprised you claim to live in London. To get you more infuriated here is an excerpt from IBB's manifesto; it clearly shows that the "looter" understands how corruption ought to be fought. We need to attack the cultural foundations of corruption through an elaborate value reorientation process that can actively criminalize this cankerworm. The battle must be waged firmly and fairly across society. Will re-establish the traditional value systems and the best traditions of the free market ethos. In addition, the existing agencies such as EFCC, ICPC, NDLEA, will be sustained and strengthened in law, funding, independence and focus. Will mount an organized anti-corruption campaign structure similar to the defunct MAMSER. Anti-corruption Leadership by Example will be a hall-mark of public policy and governance.I am not justifying looting, I am only saying that looting occur because people tolerate it. Most of us complaining about corruption are doing so because we are not getting our share or we are not benefiting. To fight corruption there must be re-orientation process that will make people less tolerant of corruption. And with no apologies, I believe that IBB, the chief-looter, according to you, understood the issues and would have made effort to correct some of those mistakes. Which Nigerian in public office with the exception of very few is not a looter? One of the reason I have stood for IBB, is that I do not see the reason why one man should be painted as a demon, while people who are currently doing the same things he is accused of doing over 17 years ago are shown as angels and fathers of democracy and so on. It is also important to note that I no longer support IBB for these elections, since he is no longer contesting. I am now for Ribadu. I am only defending my support for IBB, because I know you are a blackmailer wanting to paint me in dark light for my support for IBB. So, it was necessary to defend my stand. I believe that any reasonable person who is not aiming at scoring cheap points would have understood by now. I still leave the subject of which of us has more brains to posterity. |
Sagamite:You seem to be ignorant of the fact that we live in a time when stealing public funds is generally accepted. If you are a public office holder and do not build houses or buy cars, you will be called Ode by your people. IBB did not institutionalise corruption. Corruption has always been there. The first coup in this country claimed it wanted to fight corruption and all other coups have had the same excuse long before IBB. The fact is there was more cash/liquidity during IBB era, which made corruption more prominent then. There was simply more money to go round not that there was more corruption. As for which one of us actually have brains, I will leave it for posterity to jugde. Time will tell. |
Sagamite:I do not know what IBB did to you personally, but if you were able to dig up my previous post, I am sure you can find enough information to answer all those questions you posed, as I have no plans of answering them for you. I will still maintain that judging each administration based on its time and circumstances, IBB did fairly well. I did not say that civil rule is a failure; I only said that you should judge civilians with rule of law and Military leaders with military rule. That is only fair. Every time must be judged by the circumstances of the time. It is unfair to use the rules of today to judge events of yester-years. For example, there was a time when humans were bought and sold; there was a time when twins were killed, there was a time when women were not allowed to vote, there was a time when coming out with an explanation of earth or human existence than went contrary to church doctrine could lead to your death. We might look at this occurances and say it is wicked, it is inhuman, but if we lived in those times would we have done things any differently. If our children and grand children judge us by the rules of their time, we will also not measure up, so enough of your self-righteous non-sense. IBB left office about 18 years ago and you are still blaming him for your woes, you must be president in the land of delusion. Before you actually attempted to dilute this thread I was only trying to point out to a forum member that voting in an election is not like a football betting game where your objective is to guess the winner for example. When you vote in an election you are voting for what you believe in, it does not matter if that belief is not shared by others. That is what your reply should focus, not questioning why I should support one candidate or another. Thank God, you are not the INEC chairmen. |
A victory for Egyptians, a victory for people power. |
Sagamite:You asked me a question and I provided you with an answer. Judging the IBB administration in the light of military rule and judging the achievement of the democrats in the light of democratic rule, I will still say that the administration of IBB achieved more than the democrats. It is you who is delusional for calling a man yet to be convicted by any court a criminal. How else do you choose candidates if not by reading their manifesto and checking their true records (not media propaganda). It is on record that some of the structures for this country were laid at his time. Most administrations have all tried without success to copy from him. Yes he lost his way towards the end, but still knows the answers to this nation’s problem than most of the pretenders. This post however is about Ribadu, I now support him and no apologies to anyone. If Ribadu stands down tomorrow, I will still shop for any candidate and GEJ will still not be that candidate. |
Sagamite:I supported IBB because I believe in him; I read his manifesto and bought it. Yes to a lot of you, largely due to ignorance and misinformation, IBB is a demon, but to me he is not and I still believe he meant well. There are more demonic forces in Nigerian politics today than IBB and some of them are pretending their way into the heart of misinformed Nigerians. With IBB out of the race, I had the right to choose any other candidate from the remaining contenders. Yes, why did I not move with IBB to support GEJ? IBB as a member of PDP and like any man of principle , he is duty bound to support the candidate promoted by his party. As for me, I am not a member of any political party and have never hidden my anti-GEJ stance. Even if GEJ was the only candidate in the next election, I will still not have voted for him. IBB's Manifesto |
pro01:I had already made my comment on this before I noticed your inaccurate assessment of Glo services in Nigeria. First it is impossible for Glo to be the worst network in Nigeria, except if MTN is no longer operating in Nigeria. Glo services compete favourably when compared to other networks in the country. Since I started using a Glo line over four years ago, this is the first time I have wanted to make a call with Glo and couldn’t. This is a good record if you ask me. I cannot remember the number of times that my sister who despite using MTN and Etisalat at the same time has complained about her inability to make calls due to failed network. One thing I know is that if there is number portability in Nigeria it will likely favour Glo. Glo is also a pride of Nigeria. It is arguably Nigeria's biggest brand, one of a few Nigerian companies that have successfully ventured into other countries. pro01:You do not have the full details so do not speculate. Beside, you cannot confirm whether or not the measures were put in place. Accidents like this happen all over the world no matter the measures. The fact that it has never happened before shows that there were measures in place. |
It is news if Glo goes off, because Glo almost never goes off. How many times has MTN going off made news. It is now a way of life for MTN subscribers. Data services are also off for me as well. |
daroz:You do not vote for someone because you know he will win. You vote for a person because you believe in his abilities and programmes. It shouldn't matter if the whole nation votes for the other candidates, your one vote should go to the candidate you believe in. I am not interested in North South. If Ribadu were to be from South-South, I would still have voted for him. |
This is not likely to end well for OBJ. OBJ is about to be destroyed by his ambition. He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones. |
This is not a time to concern ourselves with who wins. Your job is to cast your vote on that day and remain there for it to be counted. If possible capture proceedings with your mobile phone. Rather than conceding defeat, this is a time to start convincing ordinary people and his mostly ignorant fans that GEJ lacks the capacity to push Nigeria towards the right direction. If majority of Nigerians vote against him, he will lose whether he likes it or not. So, instead of assuming he has already won, this a time to enlighten the ignorant. Your country needs you now and you must not disappoint. It is a matter of national importance to vote out GEJ in April as this country cannot stand another four years of mismanagement. Make sure you vote on that day, even if sentiment says your vote will not count or your candidate will not win. Vote first and wait for the result. As for people claiming that GEJ is weak or gentle, I do not agree. GEJ is only pretending to be weak/gentle. It is his role on a script clearly written by the cabal. The fact is that GEJ is a member of the cabal responsible for mismanaging Nigeria over the years. He is their next lead actor in their deception of Nigerians. GEJ is only loyal to the cabal and hence lacks the ability to dismantle the looting structures established by the cabal. GEJ also stands to gain a lot from the existing structure, so it is not in his interest to change the system. If we are looking for people to give a chance, we should consider, Buhari, Ribadu, or Utomi. GEJ has had his chance and he is nothing but a helpless and hopeless failure. |
I am glad that a lot of people are now seeing what I saw months ago, that GEJ is no good for Nigeria. We all must make it a matter of national importance to vote out GEJ and PDP in April. Contrary to what some of you may think, GEJ is not afraid, he is simply loyal to the cabal and happy with the way Nigeria is currently structured since he has and is benefiting from the system. Hence he lacks the will because it is not in his interest to change the system that he stands to benefit the most from. Like I have said before, we need a leader with no ties to the cabal or loyalty for what they represent. For now Ribadu, Buhari, and Utomi represent such change. @Ma_J_Blige, I think kalokalo did a good job with his manifesto considering the fact that he had only a few minutes or hours to come up with one. GEJ has been on it for months and yet came up with crap. This simply shows he is lazy both physically and intellectually. |
oyebambam:How sure are you about that? What is the proportion of businessmen and politicians in Nigeria. Except, you are talking about a rigged election. Obama won election without business support. He relied on the support of ordinary Americans. If ordinary Nigerians want Ribadu, he will win whether businessmen and politicians want it or not. By the way, it will not be easy to rig elections in 2011 as Nigerians are now wiser. We will all be there to count the vote and with our mobile phones will capture and share proceedings with the rest of the world. Even if they manage to rig, there will be so much evidence that the era of throwing out election cases on the bases of lack of evidence is over. So instead of banking on the support of a minority group (businessmen and politician), you should like Obama, focus on the ordinary Nigerians, who whether you like it or not will decide the next President of Nigeria |
Dosu Ade:In as much as I do not support depriving labourers of their wages, I must also plead that Nigerians must stop putting laws into their hands. Imagine if any of these men dies today, the whole complexion of the case would change. In such a scenario the women will destroy their future just for a few thousand Naira. |
Princek12:God bless you my brother, you are hitting the point. Our problem is our inability to use our brains. I have asked a question which no one seems to have answered. How do you fight corruption in a country where people are largely ignorant? It is due to ignorance that party delegates collect money to anoint a candidate. It is due to ignorance that voters collect incentive to vote for the wrong candidates. If they had spared some thought for the consequences of their action maybe they will not have collected bribes. Nigeria does not have enough prisons to lockup every Nigerian who engages in corrupt activities. Most of them even see nothing wrong with it. It is now a way of life. So enlightenment should be the first weapon in the fight against corruption not empty threats. As for those proposing another 'White Elephant Project' of learning in local languages, you better kill that idea before it gets serious. We speak 250 languages, if all of us are studying in local languages how will we all communicate. After studying in a particular region will a student easily fit into another region's education system? And please, which of these 250 languages will be the official language? We need to know that English gives us competitive advantage; we should exploit them rather than set ourselves back another 100 years just for pride and grandstanding. The problem with our education is our teaching method not the language used. |
My point is that corruption is driven by ignorance. If the fool collecting bribe from foreign investors interested in coming into Nigeria knows that he is driving away foreign investments in his country that can create jobs for his children in future, maybe he will not demand for bribe. So, fighting ignorance is the greatest weapon in the fight aginst corrution. Most people involved in corrupt activities hardly spare a thought on the consequences of their actions. As for learning in local languages, that is simply stupid. The fact that we speak English gives us competitive advantage in the world. India today is the centre of outsourcing because of the huge population of English speaking people. Most call centres today operate from India with billions of dollars in revenue and more importantly thousands of jobs. We should be looking for how to exploit our unique situation rather than proposing unworkable ideas. We have done more harm to this country than the British. If we say the British made things wrong, why have we not made them right instead of blaming them? So, enough of the excuses it is time to explore our uniqueness. Nigeria is in a very central position that if we have high quality human resources, the sky will be our limit, colonialism or no colonialism. The 140 million we have today are just making up the number. We need high quality people with the necessary skills and values to drive our economy. Only through education and enlightenment will we create them. So if you say corruption is your main problem, how do you fight corruption in a country where people are largely ignorant. The Judge will collect bribe to give a lenient sentence on a corrupt official because he is ignorant of the fact that his actions will encourage other corrupt people in society to continue in their old ways. The kinsmen of the corrupt official will protest and claim that the fight against corruption is one sided. |
The solutions of the problems are in the problems themselves. For example ignorance can be solved first through enlightenment. Nigerians need to be made to appreciate the importance of education and scholarship. Today money means everything. Through enlightenment Nigerians must be thought that money does not solve problems, people do. Money is only a tool and even the best tool still needs a skilled craftsman who knows how to use it. Then there should be massive investment in education with focus on equipping students. Students and their welfare should be the focal point of the new education system. We must define a minimum standard of what a school should be. A building or compound without laboratories, workshops, libraries, sports facilities, and well educated and motivated teachers cannot be called a school in the new Nigeria. The curriculum should also be changed to encourage reasoning and thinking so as to produce intelligent citizens. Today our education involves a lot of memorisation. Most of the people we claim to be intelligent in our current education system are not actually intelligent. They just have good memory and hence memorise the lectures and write it down in the exam for good grades. However, good memory is not intelligence, if so computers would have been said to be intelligent. Like the computer, most Nigerians memorise knowledge, but lack the thinking faculty to make use of it. Intelligence is the ability to use knowledge stored in memory to solve everyday problems. So we need an education system that will teach Nigerians how to effectively use their brains. Teaching should be discussion based, so that students will start using their thinking faculty at an early age. Our current education system locks our thinking faculty by encouraging cramming. All you need to pass exams in Nigeria today is to cram. That is also why it is easy for people to cheat and why we produce graduates who do not know their left from their right. However, for all these to happen we must restore federalism in Nigeria as for me that is the short term solution. Let every state develop at its own pace rather than stunting the growth of others. It is foolish for anyone to think that he can sit in Abuja and solve the problem of education in Nigeria. The problem of education may not be the same for every state, so states should be allowed to analyse their unique situations and implement home grown policies. |
@Kilode and @Yeswecan, I do not agree with your 'blame the west' arguments. India went through colonisation, same for Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. All these countries are ahead of us in all aspects of human endeavor. We need to take responsibility for our actions. It is our ignorance that has kept this nation in her pitiable situation. If our leaders are not coconut heads, they will not agree to every World Bank and IMF programme but push their own agurement, which I am sure IMF and World bank would have agreed to if it made sense. You can not criticize another person’s suggestion if you can not offer anything better. So, I still maintain that ignorance is our major problem. Coruption is a problem, but it is only an effect of a bigger problem of ignorance. |
SapeleGuy:Mugabe is a racist who has allowed his bitterness and jealousy for whites to cloud his judgment hence plundering a country that was once a star in Africa to a laughing stock. It is also important to note that literacy (knowing how to read and write) without rational reasoning amounts to nothing after all the guys and babes destroying this country (Nigeria) are largely literate. How did a country with a 91% literate population allow one man’s vendetta to destroy the hopes and aspirations of their country? It is indeed a shame. |
Katsumoto:I agree with you, I am only trying to point out that if Nigerians will spare some thought for the consequences of their actions there will be less corruption as the ills of corruption are more than its gains. jason123:I agree that Federalism is one of the greatest things that can happen in Nigeria. It will reduce laziness, increase internally generated revenue, create massive employment, etc. Like @Beaf pointed out every month governors simply go to Abuja to share money. They are not occupied in any form of productive activities. That is why there are no jobs. Even if all of us are unemployed, as long as the oil industry works the government will still have money to finance its activities. In a federal system, governments will be forced to see its population as a resource. So creation of jobs will be a do or die affair for any government. These days when our leaders are talking about job creation, they see it as a favour to us. That is why they give it to their friends and relations. In a federal system jobs will be about efficiency and wealth creation and the leaders will see that job creation is in their own interest. |
Katsumoto:The advantage is given to the most corrupt because people collect bribes either at the primaries or at the general elections to vote them in. If only the fools collecting the bribes knew the consequences of their actions they would have thought twice before collecting the bribe. But because they are short sighted they take the bribes now and later complain about how the same leaders they collected bribes to elect are not performing. The same also goes for the fool who votes for a person just because he/she is from the same tribe or religion. They are all products of ignorance not corruption. If only that fool knows that because of the bribe he/she collected today, nepotism, or tribalism, his children will not find jobs in a couple of years time or his grandchildren will not get quality education, he/she would not have sold his generation's future for a little bribe today. So, ignorance (our lack of deep thinking) still remains our main problem. |
legba1:This stems more from ignorance than from corruption. If only they were equipped in school with the right thought processes, they would have thought of something else to do. |
For me the square root of Nigeria's problems is ignorance. Nigerians literate and illiterate are largely ignorant. What we call corruption is only a side effect for ignorance. Here is something to ponder on: Why would someone give a job to a person that is not qualified when there are people better qualified for that job and as such will be more productive and make the business more efficient and competitive. The same 'coconut head' giving jobs to his relations will run to government for protection, when better run companies from abroad flood the market with cheaper goods. If only he knew that by employing the best for the job, his business will be better run and hence more competitive even without government protection. Why would someone vote for someone because he is of the same tribe state or religion when there are better candidates from other tribes and religion who can offer better leadership? The same fool who voted for his kinsman will complain of no electricity or good roads, every night the fool will be disturbing God for a job or admission into university. If only the ‘coconut head’ knew that by just casting his votes for the right person irrespective of tribe, sex, or religion the country would have been better run with jobs and admissions for everyone. The answer is ignorance. Every of those actions that inhibit our development are deeply rooted in our ignorance as a people from the professor to the street tout from the president to the councilor. If only we all know a little bit more, this country would have been better. That is why if we love this country, we should start a massive investment in education so as to raise a new generation of Nigerians that will have the knowledge, skills, sincerity of heart, and wisdom to move Nigeria towards development. It is that new generation of Nigerians that are the hope of this country. If we do not equip them now this country will have no hope. Most of our problems will remain until a new generation of Nigerians with thinking faculty emerges. The problem with our generation is that we hardly think, perhaps if we were thought how to use our brains in school, rather than cheating, we would have offered more to Nigeria. The fact remains that most of us complaining about corruption today are only doing so because we are not getting our share. Once we get our share of the loot, we will shut up. |
@Poster, you claim you love one of the guys but you are sleeping with the other because of the akara and moi moi that he buys for you. How is this love? Technically speaking you are cheating the guy you claim to love by sleeping with another for material things. So, what sort of wife do you think you will be if God forbid this guy dumps your sister and marry's you? You are already bad news and this guy knows this. To him you are just a play toy and when push comes to shove, he will stick by his wife. Even if the marriage breaks up, you will be the last person in his mind to replace your sister. No man no matter how promiscuous will want a harlot for a wife. It is obvious that you can no longer help yourself and like I advice anyone in such situation, seek the services of a psychologist to help you analyse how your problem started through therapy and provide solutions and how you can be made normal again. It is too early to go to church, except the church has a pastor with long term experience in handling such cases. Prayer answereth all things but you have to know through therapy what your problem is so that you know your target prayer points. What you are currently seeing as your problem may just be a side effect of a deeply rooted problem that started when you were much younger, so go for therapy first for your own good |
@poster, you may not know it, but your story suggests there are some baggages you are carrying from your past which you need to sort out. I still recommend a psychologist for you. Yes guys feel attracted to girls, but they do not start touching them on the same bed as their girl friend. What pleasure do you derive just touching her. Your actions are purely childish and suggest that you still have issues to resolve with your past. You are still childish inside and need a psychologist to unlock the adult in you. |
@poster, If this story is true, you are obviously sick or immature. The fact that you lust after any of her friends that visits, confirms my theory. If you are normal, you will only be attracted to one of them. What that means is that if another of her friend sleeps over, you will still find that one attractive more that your fiancee. For your own good, I suggest you submit yourself to a psychologist or even a psychiatrist, so that the origin of your problem will be found and solutions provided. If you do not hid this advice you may end up abusing your own children. This how it starts. To be fore warned is to be fore armed. |
@Beaf, I agree with you that true federalism is the most important reform we need at this point. I will also add a solid education system that will produce Nigerians capable of rational reasoning; Nigerians that will think with their head and not with their heart; Nigerians that will look beyond age, tribe, religion, class, and focus on the overall interest of the state; Nigerians that will know that elections are about them and not about the politicians or who wins. For example, if you graduated for the past 3 to 4 years, yet you have no job, your concern (if you have a brain) is who among the candidates has programmes to deliver jobs so that at least within the next 2 years, you will be employed. Another example, If you have been scoring above 180 in JAMB for the past three years and yet you have not been able to secure admission due to the low capacity of our institutions, your concern (again if you have a brain) should be who among the candidates have programmes in expanding access to tertiary education so that any student with a JAMB score of 160 and above will be able to secure admission. And so on. Yes Jonathan, Ribadu, Buhari, may win, but the question is, how will their winning benefit you? That is what should be the primary concern of well educated voters. @Beaf while I agree with most of your insight to the problems of Nigeria, I do not however share your opinion that GEJ is the man to deliver Nigeria or even start the process. GEJ is a part of the cabal that has held Nigeria in bondage for the past 12 years and as such it is not in his interest to reform Nigeria. Nigeria needs a leader with no affiliation to or loyalty for the existing establishment. For now, I am a Ribadu man. He was dumped by the cabal and wrongfully removed from office. Now he has joined the progressives and is a lot cleaner and vibrant than GEJ. |
COMPAQ:It is no secret that Glo has best data services overall. It depends on where you are. Like I said it is from my experience so that should tell you that I use both Glo and MTN (MTN only as a backup if Glo fails). I think what most people are not happy about is that Glo 3G coverage is very lean. Actually am in Enugu with Glo EDGE and MTN 3G, but I prefer Glo EDGE. |
emmatok:Glo launched LTE. According to them it is already in 100 sites in Lagos. Strictly speaking LTE is not a 4G technology, because it does not fully meet the specification for a mobile 4G network. However, ITU has allowed for LTE to be called 4G because it is a forerunner for 4G and will be compatible with the LTE-Advanced which is the true 4G. LTE is also described as a pre-4G or 3.9G. Glo is not the only operator to market LTE as 4G, Verizon in the US calls their LTE network 4G. AT&T will be launching LTE in Q2, 2011 and they still call it 4G. So to be fair Glo is not the only network to brand LTE as 4G. True 4G, i.e LTE-Advanced is still underdevelopment and is still some months or even years from a commercial launch. So, we need to appreciate the importance of this event. Glo is putting Nigeria in the cutting edge of mobile communication. It may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction. However, I share the sentiment of people who are dissatisfied with Glo's deployment of 3.5G which appears to be available in only a few cities with the rest of us managing EDGE (Although I must confess that Glo EDGE appears faster to me than MTN 3G). If Glo EDGE is this good, it blows my mind what Glo 3.5G or even Glo 4G will be like. Glo and other networks must understand that Lagos and maybe PH and FCT are not the only cities in Nigeria. So a launch in Lagos is a launch in Lagos not a launch in Nigeia. Verizon launched its 4G network in 38 markets in the US simultaneously , putting over a 100 million people in 4G coverage in just one day. Nigerian networks should also do the same. Rather than cheap PR. |
First of all, it is important to note that this is more of a goodbye speech and as such courtesy demands that it be patronizing. The speech was meant for FEC and GEJ. If you were resigning your current post in your company for a competitor, will you not be patronizing at least to make it palatable for your boss. The problem with some of us is that we never place ourselves into situations before criticizing others. If you were Dora, will you tell GEJ that you are leaving because PDP is a bad party, that PDP is a sinking ship, or that APGA is a better party? That would be arrogant to say the least. If she had said so, the same people criticizing her speech would have still gone ahead to criticize her. The speech is just diplomatic if you know what that means. As for her joining another party, it is a well known fact that there is no one PDP in Anambra State. There are too many factions of PDP in Anambra that PDP is now a liability to any contestant. It is also on record that she made attempts to reconcile the party in the state to no avail. So what do you expect her to do? Remain with a group of self serving politicians or join a more organized group. She should have joined ACN, but I think she may have made political calculations and went for APGA instead. My guess is that she may be eyeing the gubernatorial seat in Anambra State. APGA will have a vacant seat next term, but Ngige may still be interested in ACN next term. This may have informed madam’s decision. Dora is a shining example for Nigerians to follow. If up to 100,000 Nigerians can have the courage and discipline of this woman, Nigeria would have been a better place. We need people like her in the senate so I support her decision. |
Berezi, who was unsure if the bottles would get to the podium, stopped his speech but was urged to continue by majority of the youths who had formed a ring around the dignitaries. However, mobile policemen and some of the youths went to the Melford Okilo Road to confront those who were throwing the bottles and were able to get one of them, who was beaten before he was rescued by the police.This is a welcome development. This perhaps shows that Nigeria has a future. Nigerians of yesteryears would have run away leaving their man on his own. But these youths fought back. They protected their man and challenged the opposition. If only these youths will protect their votes this way on Election Day there will be no place for riggers. We all must learn from these youths and fight for what we believe in instead of reducing the argument to a tribal one. |