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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 5:48pm On Jul 07, 2023
bisqit:
I Neva saw lahm play LB. Which TV were you watching abi your papa no dey buy TV for una house
Lahm scored a cracker of a goal in a world cup match playing as a LB. I think it was the 2006 world cup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:58pm On Jul 07, 2023
CrystalTiger:
Seems we might be getting Onana and Holjund..

Wish we would get one more midfielder..
What is the latest?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:57pm On Jul 06, 2023
ChristineC:
because he's worth no where near the club's valuation.
He will be sold regardless and for the cheap.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:30pm On Jul 06, 2023
Bombblacks:
What makes you believe we are a long way from a title winning squad? A good transfer window and we should be aiming for top 2 this season and deep runs in the Cups.
First off, we finished second under Ole a couple of seasons back and I asked, did we finish second because we are the second best team in the league or is it because others top teams had a disastrous season altogether? I pose the same question again, if Chelsea and Liverpool hit top gear, can we keep pace?

Talking about the transfer window, does it remotely look like we will fare any better? We still have bums like Maguire, Sancho, Martial in our team yet you want me to dream. No bro, I'm awake.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:23pm On Jul 06, 2023
ChristineC:
Muani will be wildly overpriced. I won't even enter a negotiation for him if his club quotes a £70m fee.
I reckon even for 60m they'll sell...No club has gone in with a serious bid yet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:20pm On Jul 06, 2023
raumdeuter:
Both coming to a new league are not sure like Kane
Kane can come in and score 25-30 goals and it wouldn't make any difference because the squad is a long way off a title winning squad however, with Muani and Hojlund we are sorted in attack for a good number of years enough time for our slow-paced board to fix all the gaping holes in our team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:45pm On Jul 06, 2023
raumdeuter:
Muani is quoted for between 80 to 100M. I dunno about Hojlund and none of them is guaranteed Unlike Kane
Muani at 70m and Hojlund at 50m. A good negotiator will pull off the deal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:30pm On Jul 06, 2023
raumdeuter:
Every transfer is a gamble but Kane is a lesser gamble than other strikers available. Kane is 30yrs players like Lewandowski Benzema are playing into their mid 30s. Even if Kane gives 3yrs of performance which makes you competitive I will take it

Who are the other strikers in the market? Hojlund which is huge gamble as he has not produced at this level before, Kolo Muani same thing. Osimehn are you sure he is not as old as Kane? Plus issue with acclimatizing to a new country
I will sign Hojlund and Muani for 120m or thereabout rather than sign 30 years old Kane. One of Muani or Hojlund or even both will likely make it which to me is a better long term investment.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:19pm On Jul 06, 2023
raumdeuter:
Leave resale for small clubs. Big clubs dont think about resale. They make themselves a destination club. Even in your example Liverpool is not selling Sallah because they realize that is 2 steps forward 4 steps backward

City sells players they dont need or players who want out. The ones they want like Aguero Silva, they squeeze every juice out of them

The sale value of KdB will be 150M but City is not even interested until he decides he is no longer interested
Salah has done more than enough. KDB has delivered for City since his arrival so, the question of resale value is not a thing. My only issue is that Kane at his age does not come with a guarantee of long term performance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:12pm On Jul 06, 2023
Leyqute:
The previous season when Man City had yet to buy Haaland and had no striker, Grealish scored just 3 premier league goals. Throughout the season.

If not for oil money, City would be demanding a 100m refund from Villa.
He flopped in his first season but not last season. Football more much more than goals and assist.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:44pm On Jul 06, 2023
Ellexy:
Why is this club this slow? So all these while they're yet to conclude their internal investigations on Greenwood... Omo

sadundecided
They are not investigating anything, they are hoping that somehow the attention on his case gets taken over by other events paving the way for his reintroduction into the team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:40pm On Jul 06, 2023
Leyqute:
Are you praising Graelish for 'retaining possession' ? Is that his primary job as a winger?

You're saying this as if you won't curse him if he was a 100m United winger and all he did was retain possession.
In City, they have a goal machine in Haaland and other goal threats so, Pep has not problem with Grealish not scoring or assisting else Foden will displace him. The demands of Grealish at City and the demands had he joined United is and would have been different...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
Leyqute:
Unku Christo, you can message me directly. Na me bring di matter.

Out of the 94 goals city scored in the league, Graelish only contributed to 12 of them ( 5G+7A).

He was even poorer in the champions league. Played 13 games, has 0 goals plus 0 assists.

No, Graelish was not "very good" last season. He had a brief moment in either April or March where he scored or made remarkable assists. But that was it.

If Graelish was a United player and he scored 5 PL goals last season, as a 100m player, you'd be calling for his head today.
Grealish helps Man City retain possession and is very good in ball progression. While I am not of fan of his style of play (He sometimes hugs the ball too much) you can't use stats to dismiss his impact on the City's style of play. For him to be benching Foden then you should know he is doing something right because Pep is not the kind of manager that rewards average performances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:44pm On Jul 06, 2023
pkasso:
You are right about Tonali being a better fit than Mount. He is comfortable dropping deep and orchestrating play but he's more of a CM, just like Eriksen. I like to see him as a 6-8 hybrid, Mount is more of an 8-10. Those of una wey dey expect actual possession football from tenHag, make una dey dream dey go. With Mount and Bruno in midfield, na direct, transitional football, which is not bad as long as you guys create chances, score goals and win games.
I wonder if some of them have watched Tonali before arguing. My point about Tonali is that if we are to analyse what ETH was trying to achieve last season using Eriksen then Tonali would have been the better option compared to Mount...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:38am On Jul 06, 2023
iamoyindamola:
But pirlo is also a DM
Pirlo always played alongside a traditional DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 9:37am On Jul 06, 2023
Religious, traditional and political leaders in the South East have to voice out at this point so, their followers buy into the actions of the government.

Nigeria is deeply divided along ethnoreligious lines thus any move by the Tinubu-led FG which is not in sync with the position of the leadership of the South East across all spheres will be viewed as a ploy to go against the region. No army will put a stop to the menace if the locals are sympathetic to the Ipob course. The people affected have to show a strong willingness to end the vicious activities of UGM through their leaders that way, the FG can easily step in and have the situation under control.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:09am On Jul 06, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Tonali is a dm
Tonali is not a DM. He is very similar to Pirlo (A deep-lying playmaker). He sits right next to a DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:38am On Jul 06, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
tonali cost more than mount
Check Skysports and other reputable sites.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:30am On Jul 06, 2023
DeadPresidents:
Not true. Tonali is not a B2B.
We do not need a box-to-box midfielder, we need a midfield controller right next to Casemiro. Tonali is perfect for the Erikson role.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:30pm On Jul 05, 2023
We could have signed Tonali for the same fee we signed Mount. Tonali is a far better fit for the role.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:50pm On Jul 05, 2023
TLona1:
One phrase, The Playing System.
Antony played under ETH at Ajax so, does it mean ETH doesn't know what system he employed at Ajax to get him working?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:21pm On Jul 04, 2023
afrodoc:
Your case is different. There are people here who are pro-DDG just because people they have real and imaginary beef with are anti-DDG. Some are defending DDG because 1 or 2 of the posters criticizing DDG criticized their own favourite players. It really does not have much to do with understanding the role of a ball playing GK or not.
It is the norm here. People take positions on issue based on where their perceive enemies are standing that's why you find so many ridiculous takes here.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:17pm On Jul 04, 2023
If we have Antony and Sancho playing like they should, our attack would have been fearsome. I wonder why players join the club and begin playing rubbish...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:15pm On Jul 04, 2023
Leyqute:
No arguments there. But let's move forward. What's the best step going forward?
Sell him at a loss so we can save that 300k weekly wage. I reckon Spurs will have no problems dropping 40-50m. We can use that money to get a better replacement.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:44pm On Jul 04, 2023
Leyqute:
He still got 10 goals in 2 season. That's still a very poor return for a 100m signing.

But let's focus on our own players. Sancho was underwhelming last season. We either improve him or ship him off.
He has been underwhelming since he got here
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:05pm On Jul 03, 2023
ChristoBam:
Hojlund is touted to be the next big thing. If ETH really believes in this, we should be going for him and a cheap 2nd ST instead of splashing 100m on an Harry Kane.

Everyone talks about signing the next big thing instead of expensive marquee signings. But once another big name gets thrown around, all of these gets thrown into the bush.

Pep and Klopp didn't make all these type of signings until they built a team and knew that marquee signing was the last piece of the puzzle.
This is my thinking...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:33pm On Jul 03, 2023
Bombblacks:
How Is that relevant?
We have to sell for ETH to get more money to buy players while other top teams that are expertly run have enough money to get their targets. We have the money but the owners are just greedy.

Now, if the rumors transfer budget is to be believed, signing Kane will see us lock up shop as far as incomings are concerned since we haven't been able to raise anything substantial from player sales.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:22pm On Jul 03, 2023
Bombblacks:
Top clubs don't care about resale value. Are you buying him in the hope of selling him for profits or you are buying him to drop world class performances to win trophies? It's better to spend 100milliion on a player that will give 3 to 4 world class seasons like Kane than spending 60 to 80million on potential like Hojund and Kolo Muani.
Other top teams are not owned by the Goazers.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:09pm On Jul 03, 2023
Leyqute:
Would you be okay with mounting a title challenge (or winning it) and consecutive UCL qualifications 3 years in a row for 100m?
If Sheikh buys the club then I will care less but at this point, I am not sure if we spend £100m on Kane we will have enough funds to strengthen other areas that needs strengthening...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:05pm On Jul 03, 2023
afrodoc:
Arab money doesn’t care about resale value. Arab money cares about winning titles, and Kane gives us the best chance of winning titles now. I don’t think Spurs will sell to us though, that is if we can afford him in the first place.
For now, the reality is that the Glazers are still here and we have a limited budget.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:46pm On Jul 03, 2023
Leyqute:
You need to change your perception of Kane. He still has at least 2-3 years at the top. I'm talking 20-league goals season.

If we land Kane, we won't struggle for top 4 and may actually mount a challenge.
Over 100m for 3 years of quality football and no resale value, Is it worth it?

Liverpool bought Mane and got value from him and eventually sold him before his form dipped for a profit. If Liverpool decide to sell Salah today they'll get at least £70-100m. As of now, even if drops form, no Liverpool fan will question the decision to sign him in the first place.

Look at Cit with Sterling, Sane etc. Our problem is that we buy top players at the wrong end of their careers for so much money when we know they don't have any resale value. At other times, we buy average players and place them on ridiculously high wages making it impossible for us to sell when they don't meet our expectations.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:51am On Jul 03, 2023
afrodoc:
I get you but the experienced striker shouldn’t be Vardy.

I think we should actually go the other way. We should sign an experienced striker to start and a young striker who wouldn’t mind sitting on the bench for now.
I don't mind however, I am conscious of the resources available to sign these players. Kane or any other too striker will go for over £100m and we talented young forward will cost between £40-50m. However, we can easily get a talented young striker and an experience striker for under £80m.

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