₦airaland Forum

MRTA7:
I think if you look at the club's recent history with transfers, it seems quite consistent with what is happening now. So its hard to say this is happening because its what ETH wants.

Well, recent history tells me that every new manager is supported to get in his players...

It was even Doc that drew our attention to the fact that the board only spends when we fail to qualify for the UCL, a position that Nitro.gen refused to accept in their numerous arguments here...

We finished 5th and have a new coach so, if Doc was right then it is only normal to look at other reasons that we be slowing down our movement in the market...

afrodoc2:
So you have no idea but hazarding a guess.

Can you make this to make sense:

1) The club has not bought any players because they are waiting for ETH to finish his assessment.

2) But the club has been negotiating for at least 3 players (FDJ, Timber, Nunez) for at least 1 month now.

These 2 statements can't both be true. It is either the club is not active cos they are waiting for ETH to complete his assessment OR they are negotiating for these players.

And this assessment, is it in pre-season, friendlies, or competitive games?

It was reported that ETH wants to assess the players in our books before making a decision on their future...The future of most of our current players depends on his assessment which in turn affects our transfer activity...Or you think not? Whatever means he wants to use to assess the players is not really my business...

It was also reported that we have submitted an offer for FDJ...I don't think we made a bid for Nunez, I think we enquired and it was clear he wanted a team in the UCL, as for Timber, nothing concrete...One can understand easily that FDJ was requested by ETH to replace Pogba and the Nunez enquiry was necessary as we didn't know if Ronaldo will stay or leave. Timber? Nothing concrete for now...

You believe that we are making moves based on REPORTS even when only that of FDJ has been followed up with a bid but you don't want to believe the other REPORTS where ETH was quoted as saying he needs to assess the players first before making a decision on whether or not he'll work with them...

If you don't think that is enough reasons for us to be moving slowly, I can only say I respect your opinion...

afrodoc2:
We spent 1 month negotiating with Benfica for Darwin Nunez before he went to Liverpool. Was this BEFORE or AFTER ETH assessed the players.

We have been linked to Timber for over a month now. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

We have been linked to Antony according to reports as well. Was this BEFORE or AFTER assessment?

If you are saying we have not made any transfer moves because he is yet to assess the players how come we have been negotiation for a number of players already?

And you haven't answered the main question. This assessment, is it going to be in training, or preseason, or competitive matches?

All what we know is based on reports we read as none of us work at Old Trafford. I am only responding based on what is reported by the press and shared here...

Bissouma for 25m is a steal...

ETH should just submit his list abeg. If our current players turnout good then, fine, it opens up more place for competition...

afrodoc2:
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Assess the players during training or during preseason games or during competitive games? Which one?

And who reported this? And what is the veracity of this report?

Doc you no dey see the reports wey them dey drop here?

There's even a quote from ETH where he said he believes our players are better than our position on the table reflects...

Apart from De Jong who seem like a move okayed by ETH as a replacement for Pogba, we have been quiet...

With the way ETH and his management stood their ground during contract negotiations, I'd be surprised if he isn't the one making footballing decisions as far as the first team is concerned...

It's been reported that the coach wants to assess the players before taking any decision on who stays or go...

For now, we can conclude that our slow activity in the market is down to ETH since he hasn't had time to assess the players.

The one player he has asked, work is in progress to get him abi una want make we throw money around then later una go turn back blame the board for being incompetent...We are not in the UCL, it will take more time for us to convince players to join or alternatively, we have to pay more which is a NO for most of us here...

Odunharry:
City, Pool even Arsenal don sign player.. Wetin our scouts dem dey do biko

Na scout dey sign players? Them don do their job, na for ETH and the club to act now.

I read somewhere that Wike is pushing for Donald Duke to be Atiku's VP...The only problem will be Donald's dig at Atiku during the primaries else Donald Duke is a fantastic option.

Kelsmatuc:
Dear Peter Obi fans, pls listen to me carefully.....Peter Obi is a movement but for it to succeed, u guys have to do d following....


* Don't insult, bully or intimidate anyone who does not see PO as his/her candidate

* Listen to very good criticism and work on it...example; Ahmed Bashir said LP has no offices in most states of Nigeria, work on that....that's a good point if u ask me....don't insult or ridicle him but take steps to address that

* Those who insult PO are indirectly marketing him to d world.....allow them throw stones at him

* Get ur PVCs....this is d most important of all those mentioned

* Make an impact where ever u are....talk to people, even if they have their own candidate, listen to them, don't force them, just let them see y PO should be voted for....

* U can add urs

Spot on!

Capaldi:
Haaland goal to game ratio for every club and in every competition is mind blowing.

19 goals in 21games for Norway,
29 goals in 27games for Salzburg,
62 goals in 67games in Bundeliga.
86goals in 89games for Dortmund
23goals in 20games in the champions league.

We missed Haaland and went for an elephant like lakaka. Man city are mad.

Mad stats...

olabode89:
City got Alvarez for £15M, our useless scouts need to do their fůcking job. Alvarez is a solid talent!!

Have you watched him play? For 15m it's a risk...

We got Pellestri for 10m what do you make of him?

ChristineC:
I think Bissouma and Bruno will improve the midfield but the problem is probably the cost. being that they already are in the EPL, their clubs will try to be unreasonable with pricing.

scouting for academy is great too, I think time will tell if there's progress there. Hannibal will probably be a testament shortly.

80m on de Jong is steep and I'd rather take a walk. we can get two quality midfielders for that price if we get our bearings right.

Rashford and Martial are done. let's just move on from unseriousness early enough for once in this club.

I wouldn't mind if we shipped both or either of Rashford or Martial out but to this point, nothing suggest we are seriously giving it a thought...The biggest stumbling block is that wages that means it's either ETH finds a way to bring out the best in them or we lose them on a free...I think we might settle for giving them one more season in hope that they rediscover their form else we stand a chance of losing them for free in a couple of years time...

Our net spend is high because either lose players on a free or for less of their value. It's painful when you co sider how much we pay to get the players here...

afrodoc2:
Yeah. You do make good points. The scouts can go for the academy players while the manager identifies who he wants from more known players.

In terms of board readiness I said so because I keep hearing that they won’t spend more than 150m (not sure if Euro or pounds).

I am not passing any judgement until the window ends. They should just know that they have to support the new manager with very good buys. All this talk about him being able to work wonders with the current squad is alarming. His name is Eric ten Hag not Prof Peller.

At this point, I am very careful not to fall for the usual media reportage...

I complained sometime back that I don't get to read other clubs monitoring, talking, negotiating, convincing and all that for a player but at United it's like a timeline of events that last for weeks and someone saud it's because I don't follow other clubs which I refused to believe. The drama is just too much, they should just go ahead and sign players so we can stand in good footings come August. I can't stand another season of mediocre football...

Afrodoc2 and ChristineC, I don't think we can risk going for prospects now. Even South American talents don't come cheap anymore since the time of Neymar. Now, you'd find talents from South American going for over 40-50m...

I don't consider the likes of Bissouma, Neves and co as hidden talents that need a scout to discover.

For now, I think the scouts are focused on identifying players for the academy...

As for the willingness of the board to spend, the fact that we are quoted as willing to pay over 80m for FDJ suggest the board are willing ho stump the cash...There's talk of Timber and Anthony so, that's over 150m if completed...

I am sure that we will sign a LB and possibly a CM assuming we get the already rumored targets...I think ETH might settle for Martial or Rashford as a CF...

Mrviktor:
Neves wey I watch yesterday better pass dejong wey I watch 3 days back.


Mans played matic role like a champ.

De Jong was playing more forward than the normal blocking 4 position we are lacking in.


I wonder how they want to fit
Sancho.. Bruno... Rashford... Dejong..

4 attack minded players.

Den only Fred will be at d back chasing 4 opposing team midfielders.

Or maybe I'm the watch watching dejong wrongly

They can play together so, rest...

A midfield of Neves, De Jong and VDB will be just fine with Bruno playing as a false nine like Tadic did at Ajax... Ronaldo won't play many games so, if we don't get a striker then Bruno as a false 9 should suffice...

ETH should make a decision on Martial and Rashford ASAP...

afrodoc2:
It is like you don’t know the manager. Dalot will be starting ahead of AWB and there is a big chance that we offload AWB this transfer window if any reasonable offer comes.

Exactly...

LostMyZeal:
You hit rock bottom and you find yourself for Europa League, but you think you don't need to convince any player to come join a team that's been disjointed for years now huh?

For any player coming to United now, that's a risk to his career considering how shitty we've been over the past years.

Whatever acquisitions are made would definitely be an upgrade to what we currently have in that pathetic midfield

Hopefully as the transfer windows go by, we'll upgrade from the use of Shaw and Maguire in that defense.

As for AWB, a case can be made for him because he's good at a defensive aspect at least.

If that midfield problem can be solved in this TW, that'd be a huge statement of intent.

And before I forget, if you ever called Shaw 'Shawberto Carlos' kindly tender your apology cos Mou was right all along

I agree with everything you wrote except that a case can be made for AWB...

If Mourinho was our coach then, AWB would've been amongst the first name on our team sheet but no, it's Erik who prefers his 2 and 3 to be technically sound...

Oasis007:
Antony deal is getting close.

Not read anything of sort. Who's reporting it?

I like that ETH is focused on fixing our midfield first...

Next should be our defense then attack...

5 more players after De Jong...A DM, LB, CB, RWF and CF...

The real voters...

donstan18:
Okwute no dey win Twitter Poll again o!!

Any voting poll consisting of Atiku, Tinubu and Okwute, he no dey win again.

Weeks and months ago, he was winning and could even win the poll of the sexiest lady in Nigeria, now reality don set in.

You're a mad man sha...

drisham:
Insults are insults
They can't call themselves that in public or risk being sued for defamation

My point is that if the contenders can call each other names so can the voters

You're just contradicting yourself...Is Nairaland not a public space?

drisham:
What are you even saying??
During campaigns the people contesting also take digs at each other

They call themselves thieves? Drug barron?

Rubbish talk. So, is it Atiku that's a Northerner that will get votes after 8 years of Buhari?

afrodoc2:
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All these things are true for a healthy Tinubu. I am not sure he will be able to withstand the rigors of establishing a thriving federal government by that time.

I am concerned too because of his age and the attendant health challenges that comes with it which is already visible...

I told someone that the North might look at him and think they could be a repeat of the whole Yaradua episode to their favor...

donjazet:
Okoto meow! Oga this format don cast.

There is nothing I did not say about buhari. That he is his own man. That he is not new to the system.

That he is the one to control men like danjuma and the old military cabal. That he cannot work under anyone's influence. That he has proven himself with his 7 million votes won earlier and he was as ready as anyone can be to lead this nation.

That was all RUBBISH in the end.
I'm not calling for it again.
PDP and APC are one and the same.
#NoMore.

And LP is brand new because of your preferred candidate?

Wasn't Obi the VP candidate of the PDP in 2019? Wasn't he a member of the now demonic party? Until recently, he toured the length and breathe of the country as a PDP presidential aspirant and only chickened out when he saw the odds were not in his favor. Prior to the PDP, wasn't he a member of APGA on whose platform he gained national recognition?

Drop the names of the leadership of APGA let's see if it's not former PDP and APC men who have thus far contributed to the rot in the system.

Any other argument should suffice but don't try to paint those in LP as saints...

raumdeuter:
First why Osinbajo should never have contested against Tinubu
1. Osinbajo had no structure of his own. Structures win primary politics.
Osinbajo literally became who he is today because he used Tinubus structure. Osinbajo cannot even win his Polling unit in VGC.

Osinbajo is like a guy using his brothers clothes and car to oppress in the neighborhood, but when the brother now wants to use the same clothes and car. and he refused. The brother will simply collect his structure back and left with his tattered clothes and bicycle

Which politician can Osinbajo point to that will be loyal to him? Osinbajo has spent 7yrs as VP, who has he made? Partisan politics is about taking sides even if you lose. When Edo matter was going on. Tinubu took sides with Oshiomole vs Obaseki, They lost but guess who is in charge of Edo APC structure and delegates? Oshiomole. Where was Osinbajo in all of these? He was playing neutral.
When APC was having issues in any state Tinubu will put his influence, Osinbajo will keep quiet. How do you buy loyalty that way

Because politics globally follows a pattern, I will give you an example in American politics, In 2016 Biden was Obamas Vice for 8yrs and could have run for the Democratic ticket but the "Emi lokan" of Democratic party Hillary Clinton was also interested, So Biden had to look away from that process since he was planning to use the same Democrat Centrist structure that was loyal to the Clintons

In 2020 Biden came out and was able to use the same Centrist structure when Hillary was no longer on the ticket

Very well said.

donjazet:
Oga, pick a side and declare your candidate. Stop sitting on a fence.

Oga stop attacking other aspirants like a street tout will do...Be civil in your campaign.

I am all for power to shift to the South. I am quite comfortable with any of Obi or Tinubu but you Obi supporters have to do better.

I go on Twitter and all I see is PO supporters attacking anyone that doesn't support Obi. For an undecided voter, that attitude alone is enough to see me have a rethink.

Obi wasn't mad when he advised you and your likes to keep the campaign for his election issue-based...Quit being emotional.

ribbit:
Tinubu understood the term "no permanent friend or foe in politics." Tinubu will work with obasanjo to achieve his goal if needed.

It's one of the reasons he is still the only standing political god father in nigeria today. while others will be whupping up sentiment and tears, jagaban will be scheming. then some people start hating and wondering why he is so successful.

Nigeria needs someone like that right now honestly.

The reason why we had cabals running the country is simply because Buhari is not a smart politician. At some point, the cabals began to interfere with the work of his ministers and other appointees, dishing out instructions here and there...In fact, it got so bad that they existed different cabals...

One thing I know Tinubu does well is that he steers the ship himself with advise from a trusted few however they'll never be as power as the cabal under Buhari.

Another thing about him is that he will get the best hands on board and give them the opportunity to bring their experience to bare...

donjazet:
I don't see the drug baron winning new votes.

You really think that the average Nigerian is motivated to go and vote for APC again?

We were motivated for APC 4 years ago and 8 years ago. They failed us! Many like us who voted for the APC in the hopes of them starting something new are what you call "dissatisfied voters" and you can bet your ass, a significant portion of us are OBIdient right now.

APC don show us shege, they've rubbed mud in our faces.

Me and Ibime were the strongest buhari supporters on this thread both in 2015 and 2019.

Only people like that vulture griller, mannabbq vulture griller are still making noise for that dead party.

While he doubled down on his support in the face of abject failure of the party. W
We are moving on to a new hope. A fresh party. And you can smell the breath of political revolution in the country.
Watch and see

The approach that will see many South Westerners and Northerners who were hitherto sympathetic to Obi eventually opt for another candidate...

You people never learn. Always confrontational from time immemorial...