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donjazet:
Am I pouring water on rocks?
For God's sake, I am referring you to numbers!!!

Nigerians have been largely apathetic to voting.

Just 15% of the population voted last election! FIFTEEN PERCENT!!!

Think about this for a minute. You're 100 people in a class. Only 15 people out of that 100 voted for the class Rep. 85 did not vote.

Now out of the 100 classmates, 45 people were the only ones who registered to vote for the class Rep.

Again 45 people registered to vote, out of 45 people, 15 voted.

Now you have a situation where 20 more people have registered to vote to take the total of registered voters to 65 people. And the 20 new people that are voting are overwhelmingly for one candidate.

Is that number not high enough to overshadow the initial 15 people that voted previously??

Please read the above again to really understand my point.

READ THE ABOVE AGAIN.

How you think all the newly registered voters are for Obi is beyond me...Social media popularity is quite different from reality...You don't think they're people who are collecting their PVCs just to ensure they vote for Atiku or Tinubu?

Once you pick a side to a debate, you hardly ever want to see things from another persons point of view...

donjazet:
My brother look at the last voting map below.

Then try to envision 20 million brand new energized voters with 85% of that 20 million going to a single candidate.

Let me ask you, do you believe that the APC has added new supporters to her rank? or that PDP has added new supporters to her rank when clearly the reverse is the case.

Stop judging the political climate with old numbers that had a highly apathetic voting population.

Just go to the nearest INEC office near you and you would see that this is not online noise.
Labor party has announced that it has raised 5 billion naira, that is just the beginning.

Smell the air my brother, you will perceive the air of political revolution in Nigeria.

Apathetic turnout was recorded everywhere and no not just in the East. The APC is very strong in the North and SW. With Tinubu on the ballot, trust me, the party will do very well in the South save for the SE and to a lesser extent, the SS...

You are refusing to understand that with a Southern flying the APC flag the South won't vote in one direction...

Talking about N5b, that's chicken change for a party with over 20 governors and in control of the FG...

donjazet:
Welcome to the fold my dear brother. We will make our voices heard in 2023. We will send these theives a message.

You don't win people over by calling their political leaders thieves especially in a country deeply polarized like ours...Tinubu is widely respected in the SW and Nigeria as a whole, you don't go about trying to convince South Westerners to vote for PO and start by calling Tinubu a thief. You're Igbo I presume thus your support for Obi and utter disdain for anything Tinubu can be easily mistaken for ethnic bias...

PO has even come out to appeal to you guys to discuss issues and avoid dragging the name of other aspirants in the mud...You don't realize you're hurting the chances of PO in the SW...I am dead certain that even here, some folks are not finding it funny but they're just silent waiting for the D-day...

I am a Cross Riverian just so you know.

BlueRayDick:
lol

Some of those who voted in the last election have travelled out of the country and will definitely not be coming back home just to choose between corrupt major aspirants ;Atiku and Tinubu

Some of these newly registered voters are waiting for Canada to open boarder make dem enter while some are waiting till September make dem go resume for their school in the UK.

It’s one thing to have so many registered voters , it’s another thing for the voters to actually be available to vote.

While u are assuming more people are eager to vote, I totally disagree because I’ve heard people lamenting here and there that they would rather not vote considering they will be choosing between Atiku and Tinubu who are well known to be very corrupt. Most people I’ve engaged offline just see Obi as the Sowore of last election; he’s not serious. He joined a party that doesn’t even have one sitting governor in the whole of 36 states in Nigeria, no political structure whatsoever .

As regards ur bet, I would rather we bet that if Obi Wins 4 states out of the 36 states in naija , I will credit u 20k but if he does not u will credit same to me . Deal?

There's someone on Facebook willing to bet N1m that Obi won't win a single State...Yours is even 4 States...

Donj keeps mistaking popularity on social media for acceptability across the length and breathe of Nigeria.

Obi just has the loudest fans who are willing to go hard on those with divergent opinions. When push comes to shove, he'll realize that the majority are not always the loudest...

donjazet:
You guys keep underestimating Peter obi's newly gained grounds because you keep using former election numbers.

How do I keep telling you guys this?
Despite the northerners coming out in bulk for all previous elections, the voting turnout remained at 15% of the entire population.

I can tell you that that number is set to double.
The average northerner has always been politically conscious because it's been their only strength in Nigeria. They've always understood the importance in numbers, while the southerners were apathetic to voting and simply didn't care.

This is different! Eastern states have always been highly apathetic, with just 10% voting turnout. You will be shocked when you start seeing states like Anambra bringing out 1.5 million votes, Owerri, 1.4 million votes etc with turnout at 75%.

The South is awakening from their political slumber. Go to any INEC office today and see the teeming crowd desperate to get their PVC.

To be blind to this is just plain ignorance.

Lastly, Obi doesn't have to win the north, he just has to undercut their numbers considerably and perform very well in the south, of which he is on course to do and he will cement the youth revolution.

My brother, Join this moving train.

Even if the number of people that are going to vote triples, every other aspirant stands to benefit from it...

donjazet:
Even a blind man will see that this revolution and sensitization is very very different.

Every single INEC office around the country is overfilled with people right now.
INEC's own record show you that there has been 10 million new registration in the last 3 months.

The population is fvcking energized to vote right now.
You cannot compare 2019 elections to this one.
The 11 million votes that Atiku got last election were mostly anti-buhari votes not necessarily pro-atiku votes, and most of those votes were from the south. Where do you think those votes are going to now?

The PVC sensitization going on right now is the highest it's ever been and I can tell you, the candidate leading that charge is neither atiku or tinubu.

It is Mr Peter Gregory Obi.
Big markets are shutting down in the north and Lagos for the marketers to go and register for their PVCs.
Celebrities are organizing free concerts with the only requirements for entry being the PVC.
The Catholic bishop conference of Nigeria circulated a circular directing all priests to announce to their congregation to go out and register for PVC.

There is a great awakening in the south as to Their voting responsibility. The average northerners have always understood the power of voting and politics while their southern brethren were apathetic, that is about to change.

The voting numbers for Nigeria which has been at a meager 15% is about to increase to at least 35-40%.

One man is the only candidate inspiring action amongst the youths. It's not Tinubu or Atiku. It's Mr Peter Gregory Obi.

Get your PVCs.

Is Tinubu not a Southerner? You think LP will sweep the South West and all of South South?

Tinubu can easily cut a deal with Wike who is Amaechi's political enemy so he can get a percentage Rivers vote and in return protect Wike from being probed...

The SS will split their votes between the APC, LP and PDP (To a lesser extent)...The SE will vote for LP and PDP while the SW will vote for Tinubu...

The MB will see the votes split between the APC and PDP with the APC having majority.

In the North, NNPP, APC and PDP will split the votes. Tinubu has Kano, Katsina, Sokoto, Borno, Kebbi, Jigawa and Kaduna in the bag although NNPP and PDP won't do badly in the aforementioned states.

[quote author=macjireh post=113595857][/quote]So, how will Obi get votes up north? Which Northern politician of repute is in the Labor Party?

Atiku is a fulani man, you think any Southerner will entertain the choice of Atiku?

You guys are quick to highlight grey areas as long as it concerns Tinubu but turn a blind eye to that of Atiku and Obi...

Let me tell you for free, those 12 Northern Governors didn't back Tinubu for no reason, they want to maintain relevance thus, as they did in the primaries so will they pull their weight in the General elections...Some of those guys know that if Atiku get 8 years then their chances of ever being President is over because Atiku will bring his own loyalist into the scene...

Ebukacute:
Oga shut up... I said younger and more capable people like obi, osibanjo ,sowore etc.. who did I attack? Didn't Tinubu pee on his payint?

Go back to the post I quoted...

Capaldi:
Ronaldo was only frustrating cause he started in the Hardest and best league in the world. Ronaldo would have destroyed la Liga from the age of 18 if he started from there. Ronaldo has aged like a fine wine that even at 38 he is finishing top 3 in epl goal scoring chart and we haven't even talked about his 110 goals In 130 matches for Juventus at 34 to 37yrs so you old age argument is dead. If Ronaldo had started and retired in la Liga,his record will be insane. something like 1000goals in 700matches.

Same Serie A where Immobile is scoring for fun? Same Immobile that struggled in the Bundesliga?

The same Serie A where Lukaku was scoring for fun? The same Serie A where Dzeko is still killing it? Giroud? Ibra?

As for the bolded, you know too well that young Ronaldo was more of an entertainer, it took the hard stance of Fergie to change Ronaldo...He joined La Liga at the peak of his powers.

Let me even go further, I am a premier league fan but I don't subscribe to the whole talk centered on the myth that the EPL is the hardest league, it's not. Most competitive? Maybe yes...Over the years, we have seen David Silva, Torres, Fabregas and the likes join the EPL from La Liga and completely dominated the league, players who were not even the best in Spain yet a certain Messi would have struggled in England to replicate his numbers...

How you think a player that has played against the best clubs in the EPL and left a mark will struggle against the likes of Norwich, Everton, Watford, Leeds, Fulham, Villa etc is beyond me...

Trolling or not, it is ridiculous for anyone to say Messi or Ronaldo will not dominate any league in their prime...

Ebukacute:
Doc if we comot football age for naija politics,Buhari, Tinubu and atiku should be in their late eighties or early nineties
Doc Tinubu dey piss for him payint oooo

How about Obi?

The way some of you are going about this thing, you will end up setting Obi up for failure...Stop attacking the likes of Atiku, Tinubu, Buhari etc. These men are leaders of their regions.

This is not the first time that elections will be conducted in the country neither is Obi the most intelligent aspirant ever but its now you guys are serious about voting. I just hope it's not down to ethnic bias?

Sell your aspirant but desist from attacking others. I am sure they're a lot of undecided voters out there.

Capaldi:
La Liga na easy league sha. Ronaldo record in la Liga and Madrid is crazy. 450 goals and 131 assists in 438 games. Thats 583 goal contribution in 438games. This is the kind of privilege Messi enjoyed all through his career. If Ronaldo had started and ended his career in la Liga he would have scored 1000goals. No wonder Messi career goal and assists average looks better than Ronaldo.

Ronaldo joined La Liga at his peak, if he had started his career there, do you think he would have posed auch fantastic numbers? You need to watch Ronaldo when he was 17 to understand. He was so frustrating then that a lot of the senior players at Manchester United had to make their displeasure with Ronaldo known to Sir Alex...

Also, as he aged, he wouldn't have been posing those impressive numbers...

Mrviktor:
This leao na scam..

How ac Milan take use am win league

You go just watch player once begin call am scam...SMH.

Jodera:
Omo... I'm voting Peter Obi oo. No time. I've applied for my PVC

You're doing a good work with this your campaign. I just hope we see a new party aside the two stupid parties called PDP and APC

If Obi wins, the same thieves in the APC and PDP will decamp to the Labor party and the circle continues...

Do you think Obi will stop corrupt civil servants from stealing? We shouldn't focus all our attention on the presidency alone, we should all be interested in who gets elected even at our local level...

You can't elect corrupt Councilors, Chairmen, HOA members, national assembly members, Governors and the likes and expect the president to work magic...

michigang:
may the Taliban locate you

Got me laughing...

eph12:
You honestly believe that the coach will get half of his A list targets?

No coach gets all of his targets...He will get some but not all.

Oasis007:
Official: The club can announce that Paul Pogba will leave Manchester United at the end of June, upon the expiry of his contract.

Let him getat!

Oasis007:


Do we actually need to spend on another winger? We've got Amad and Pellestri coming back from successful loan spells. Both can comfortably play on the right wing, skillful and full of potentials.

We've also got Garmacho from Academy. A promising Lad.

For Midfield, Garner's spell with NF is nothing but a huge Success. If we can get De Jong as well, that should be enough, coz Perreira also is coming back - who knows he might perform well under ETH.

Striking position ain't bad either, Martial will be back, Rashford is still available, CR7 ain't go nowhere.

My concern is getting a solid CB, 2 LBs and 1 RB. Shaw and Telles should be sold. They are done as United players. AWB should be sold as well. For CB, Bailly, Jones and hopefully Maguire need to be sold.

We should rather spend much on Defence than Midfield and Attack, except ETH has access to Arab Oil Money.

Not sure their respective loan spells was quite as successful as one would've expected. For successful, talk about Garner...

eph12:
With what we’ve seen happen in this club since SAF left? LVG didn’t insist that things must be done his way? Or is it mourinho? Bro I’m tired of seeing managers come here and fail when the root cause is still out there. I’m tired, maybe you’re not

Care to say what the root cause is? Woodward has left, they have made changes to the scouting department and they're bringing in more football heads. They have given the coach full control of the first team...Pray tell, was this the case before now?

ETH is coming with his trusted allies. Even McClaren is a likely addition, one that most of us questioned yet the board are open to the idea of him joining just to pacify ETH but no, let's turn a blind eye...

The board have given him the powers to choose who stays, who goes and who is signed yet for some reason, let's ignore the obvious changes...

I know that in the past things have not been done the right way but then, that's the past. At the moment, the club has been making the right moves, the least we can do is to appreciate the positive steps rather than dwell on the past...

eph12:
You're not listening.

The money is not always handed to the coach to spend. The company will not deposit 200million into ETH account to spend as he likes bro. There have to be an agreement between people of interest before a player purchase or sale is sanctioned.

There's a reason ETH was firm about his terms of the contract for which Manchester United board reluctantly gave in. At this point, if he fails, it's solely on him...

For once, the board has brought in a manager who insisted that things must be done his way...Some folks here are still trying to rope the board in just so they can blame them when things go south.

ETH never sounded like one that appreciates the role RR was designated to take up. The pressers are there for anyone to make reference to so, I don't get why the board is still being roped into all of these...

MadamVanessa:



You got it all wrong dear.

what make these people popular is:

Tinubu : This one is popular because of his mouth odour and brown teeth, he's known to be urinating on his agbada, he's known to be imposing governors to Lagosians, he's known to be suffering from essential tremor, he's popular for being a drug baron, he's an unapologetic looter. Tinubu is popular for wrong reasons.


Atiku: This one is a thief and a looter, he's not even a Nigerian, rumour once had it that he's a Cameroonian.

Osibanjo: This one is popular for being so weak and clueless and reducing himself to a position of a mere commissioner and also, he's known to be Buhari house boy despite his strides in educational world.


Amaechi: This one is known to have betrayed the whole south south and lick the asses of Fulanis so he will be given a ministerial appointment by clueless Buhari and he succeeded.

Peter Obi: This noble young man is popular because he's widely loved by majority of Nigerians. The love and passion exuded by Peter Obi to serve and work assiduously to put Nigeria back on track is what endeared him to alot of people. God bless him.

This is not the approach you use when your candidate is not the front runner. You are trying to get others to support Obi, you should be more subtle and convincing in your approach...

Una just like to argue over nothing...

I am certain no one here knows what really transpired behind the scenes. Make una chill abeg...

In no time, we will get to know what happened.

TrebleChamp:
, very funny post this is..

Some folks just over think things like Pep does sometimes...

I don't even see a similarity in our writing style. Moreover, apart from Ole, we both disagree on a lot of subjects here but then...

Can you imagine?

Fortruth:
Does bombings and kidnapping happen in US and the President or Governor is no where to speak...No arrest, no nothing.

US is a country, Nigeria is an Area of Niggers like you... unless of course you are a British agent here on Nairaland doing brainwashing

Please stick to the subject. They're people who have been in the US house for more than 7 tenures...

BlueRayDick:
It will meet wild spread condemnation and enough propaganda . The Islamization of Nigeria card will be played .

APC will spend so much time fighting the negative publicity that will trail the Muslim-Muslim ticket . Personally I don’t feel it’s worth it, but then politicians are risk takers…. They might risk it

On the other hand, you have another Northern vying to succeed PMB...The lesser evil is Tinubu who is a Southerner though a Muslim...

BlueRayDick:
Tinubu’s ambition is a big headache for APC as a party. He makes it so difficult for them to match PDP with the emergence of Atiku.

A Christian VP for Tinubu will not sell in the north, neither will a Muslim-Muslim ticket be acceptable to all and sundry in this age and time ( considering how religion and ethnicity has been a major issue in the country in recent times )

The 10 days APC have to plan their election will be for serious brainstorming .

At this point, Tinubu with a muslim vice will fly ahead of Atiku with a Christian vice...

Even in the US, it happens...

KingAlabi:
Patrickmuf you do finally give up on this guy ?

Definitely...

Generational talent my yansh...

Ellexy:
David de Gea: "The new manager and staff are already looking for new players. Hopefully they bring good ones with good character." #mulive [@ShamoonHafez]

De Gea is not just about the good ones but also the ones with good character...You begin to wonder what the dressing room and the players attitude to training and adhering to the managers instructions is like...

afrodoc2:
Rangnick could have done better to be fair but majority of the blame is still on the players. The league was already derailing which is why the previous manager was sacked in the first place.

Many of the players gave up on the season somewhere around Dec/Jan. Imagine the club is in a do or die final match of the season that might lead to either Europa League or Conference League and up to 9 senior players are out for weeks with things like tonsillitis, bronchitis, "knock".

There are little things that you keep noticing that let you know that if this group forms the core of ETH's team he won't last very long in the job.

And oh, i have also read that he is not the most charismatic manager you will come across. If things start poorly these players will turn on him quickly like Alpo Martinez.

ChristoBam?

The senior players downed tools too early even when we had the chance to fight for at least the 3rd position. I really don't know if it is as a result of Rangnick's frank assessment of their quality and efforts though but it should not be happening...

I just hope the board supports ETH who in turn has to listen to Rangnick...