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delkuf:
My point will ajax sell both lisandro and Anthony to man u. I prefer we sign Anthony from ajax and sign a defender from another team

My point os that; they will...Money talks, Ajax sells...

delkuf:
Have man u agree deal for lisandro. But I would have preferred we sign Anthony from ajax and sign another defender from another team. I don't know if ajax will still want to sell Anthony to man u now that we are signing lisandro

Ajax are a selling club, they'll always get a good replacement...

At this point, I think we should end negotiations for FDJ unless what is reported falls short of the truth...

LostMyZeal:
I couldn't help but realize that some people here actually want VDB to flop, just so at the end they'll say they're right.

You people just never learn and it's so funny

It's just 1 game with Liverpool's C team and let's not pretend that we didn't park the bus in that second half - which of course is the ideal thing to do.

Wether you choose to believe it or not, there's nothing to be really excited about with these crop of players, except we do more in the TW.

And what's even more disturbing is those ones Yabbing Nunez for that miss.

When it counts the most, we'll see the teams that'll turn up.

I'm not sorry to say, but United is not back.

And for those of you crying about Bruno because he was criticised, just know that we haven't even scratched the surface yet - of course until he repents.

Your so-called favorites were fielded against team C, while VDB's team had to park the bus and play against team B and A. Now do the maths.

Or should we talk about the fact that the second half was more interesting than the first that was garnished with our first 11

I really don't understand why supposed fans will hope one of our players flop just so they can come back to say "I told you so"...

My position alongside many others here is that Bruno has to tweak his game to adjust to ETH's style else he'll be benched but trust those who read meanings to every post to twist it to mean that Bruno will be benched for VDB...They are blind to the clause as usual all for the sake of agenda...

Ellexy:
and you Ayinde.

Martial is my boy...He will do wonders...

Ellexy:
Bissaka was good.

You just like that guy like Fred like eph...

melodyogonna:
What's your assessment?

We have a good number of young players coming through however, we need to strengthen our RB, midfield and attack. Hopefully we can get Lisandro, FDJ and Anthony...

Telles and AWB are not good enough...Also, if we must play like we did today, Maguire has no place in the team...

I will like to see Garner and Hannibal in action...Iqbal? He has caught the attention of everyone, I hope he builds on it.

Telles has been pants...

It will he interesting to see how our youngsters will play against Liverpool's big boys in the 2nd half...

For Pre season?

Abeg na just argument we get here make una no come turn the thread to Bruno vs VDB...We want all of them t9 be at their best.

afrodoc2:
Garnacho is still a fair distance off in my opinion. He needs to play the full Reserve this season and maybe the odd Europa league appearance.

Chong's time is almost up as i hear he is about to go back to Holland. Quite unfortunate cos he is one player who would have been well suited to ETH's style. He presses quite well and he has decent speed and technical ability. He just never had any good coaching right from the academy.

i believe Garner will be a regular squad member this season. ETH will give him the opportunity to displace McFred. It is now up to him to seize the opportunity. I have noticed that as he has moved up into more senior football he has become less adventurous with his passing.

Tuanzebe is at the age where only regular football is of any use. If he won't start we should sell him both for the club and for the player.

I really had high hopes for Chong and Tuanzebe...I am quietly rooting for those young lads to displace some of those so called senior players.

I really hope they make an impression on ETH...

afrodoc2:
Looking forward to see what ETH does with the academy players this season. I suspect 1 out of Laird, Mejbri, Iqbal will become a regular rotation player.

Garnacho, Chong, Garner and Tuanzebe what do you think of their chances?

andrewbaba44:
You will tell me weda 34 year old and 25 year old players are the same thing

No, you should tell me whether you can compare the output of both players...

andrewbaba44:
So Barca should pay more then 50 million for a 34 year old lewa bar ?

Didn’t you see where the recent 45 million bid plus 5 million addons was rejected ?

If you think you can get de Jong for cheap then good luck to you guys .

You don't want to pay the asking price but we should for FDJ...You try.

ChristoBam:
You're joking bro. They have no replacement for the guy. He's one of their best players over the last few years. And it's United.

No player is irreplaceable...Neves will be sopd without thinking twice once we big anything between 35-40m...

andrewbaba44:
Barcelona summer activities doesn’t depend on FDJ ,but una no go agree because una must broke shame us

You are see how much Barca will be paying for raphinha ,but you wanna get FDJ on a cheap ,una never see anything ,if you can’t pay up that 85 ,you guys better go and look for another option

Chief you are not the only Barca fan on Nairaland and not everyone that speaks facts are trying to attack Barcelona...

If you are in tune with what is being reported, you'd have read that it's the fee + add ons that's dragging the deal alongside the reported wages Barca owe De Jong. Whilst we rather pay less of the fee in addition to the add ons which is still equal to the amount quoted, Barca want more upfront and less 9f it in add ons.

What is holding back the Lewandowski bid?

ChristoBam:
I think Wolves slapped a price tag of 100m on Neves. They won't sell less than 80.

That one na story...Flash them £35m and watch them drive him to Old Trafford with their official bus...

De Jong money plus let's say £10m can easily get us Neves and Paredes or any other top CM that isn't based in the EPL...It's about time we moved on...Once we start looking at other options, Barcelona will definitely play ball as their summer activities depends a lot on the deal for FDJ.

elrony:
The better for us. If VDB steps up, good for Bruno, he gets to have the occasional deserved rest he needs, good squad depth for the manager as well.

I just hope everyone keeps the VDB campaign down, he's nowhere near Bruno's level.

Nobody is saying VDB is better but he is better suited to the system compared to Bruno (At least from what we know of Bruno)...

Bruno has to tweak his game a bit to fit in. The question is; can he and how fast?

elrony:
His competition should step up, none has lived up even when he was shitty.

Well, it's time for a fair competition...

Bruno fan boys on rampage...If una like make una no advice una MCM to step up...

LostMyZeal:
There's really no need for all these Bruno arguments as we're few weeks away from getting the answers we seek

One thing I know in this game of football is that Stats don't tell the whole story


You fit check progress of United game online now come see say United possession pass opponent own wella, only to discover that Maguire, Fred and Shaw have been passing the ball among themselves in our half because of their high level of cluelessness

Only a dubious person relies on stats, I mean ffs we watched United last season and the performance was highly depressing

Then you think you can come and pick stats that favor your argument and shove it in our faces

Exactly...If we want to misrepresent stats, we know how to go about it too well...

Expert17:
He has a lot to work on, but the main point is VDB can't bench him

Well, time will tell...

ovoP:
part of bruno poor display last season was because of ronaldo self.. instead of passing the ball to the nearest person, he will try d hard pass, cox ronaldo is signalling for the ball.. he stepped back and started looking for ronaldo more instead of doing his thing..

I watched van de beek again yesterday in a ajax match, and I don't see d ball control you talked about. Even berghius that was used to replace him is more technical. If at all the system was used to accommodate him.

Yet he was a starter...So much so for a player who is not technical...Make season start first.

Expert17, if you watch Bruno and don't think he has to improve certain aspects of his game then, I can't help you...

afrodoc:
This is not about Busquets. The main thing is that there is very little of evidence of FDJ playing DM either for Ajax or for Barca. Lisandro Martinez as well rarely plays there.

So what you want is for us to buy a CB and and CM to share DM responsibility. Why not just buy a DM who plays that position regularly and then buy the CB to play CB and CM to play his proper role.

Not the one that midway through the season we will now be looking to buy a CDM because the players we bought can't play the position consistently well.

I am not against signing a DM but I am not certain we will sign FDJ and Lisandro and still go after a DM whilst looking at a RB, RWF and now, potentially a forward...

afrodoc2:
Those 2 are far more physical than de Jong. Also if you check de Jong's Whoscored history he has rarely played CDM apart from 2 seasons ago when he played it 10 times for Barca. He is usually a CM (No8) with a CDM next to him.

I think Busi would start ahead of any DM you sign at Barca for obvious reasons...I accept that Rodri and Romeu are more physical however, FDJ can do a decent job there if need be...I am rooting for Lisandro to play more as a DM...W8th a solid midfield, our defense won't be very exposed thus the defensive frailties that looked so obvious will be masked...

Also, I am hoping that ETH has the balls to bench Maguire for Lindelof or any other CB in form...

ChristoBam:
It's not a matter of EPL being special. It's about the EPL being different from the Dutch league. He can't even play it in Spain.

Dejong is not Rondri. They don't even have similar qualities.

He can but Busi has that position locked down...I am a little patient to see how far Garner can step up...

In defense I am not ruling out Tuanzebe or Lindelof completely as potential partners for Varane just so Lisandro can slot in as the DM...

We still have a bit of time. The TW shuts sometime in Sept or thereabout so, we can still access our team after a couple of games into the season...

ChristoBam:
FDJ can't play CDM in the EPL. That's wishful thinking.

What is it about the EPL? This talk no dey tire una?

The same EPL Rodri is playing in? The same EPL that has Romeu starting for Southampton? Make una calm down with this EPL talk...

ChristoBam:
Lol will he be playing both positions at the same time cuz we need both. So Lisandro slots into that CB position hopefully, one person will have to play that CDM position regularly.

This utility thing would've been useful if we had a CDM and Lisandro is coming in as a CB that can play that CDM position if there's an injury issue. Or the other way round. But we need both. So he needs to fill in to one.

Btwn shifting a player all over is the worst way for the player to acclimatize with the league.

FDJ can easily slot in there...However, when we need more grit, Lisandro can be deployed there...We can't possibly address all the issues...

ChristoBam:
Lol Lindelof/Maguire/Tuanzebu? Already forgetting the previous season, are we? We desperately need a CB and that's the fact. The only position that we've been really linked with multiple players is in that position. Ten Hag wanted Timber, he couldn't get him. Wasn't convinced with Torres even though we were in discussions with him and has decided he wants Martinez. He didn't do all that thinking he'd definitely utilize him as a DM. We've got a slow Maguire and an Injury prone varane as our CB partnership. A new system won't change that fact.

You say Eriksen can replace Bruno/VDB which is my major issue. We've got enough dearth in the quality of the first team to start thinking of squad quality..

As for FDJ, I've been following it every single day. I know the issues with Barca. But I know with all of that, he still wants to say. And won't have any agreement on personal terms with us until Barca agrees a fee for him and they finally have to sell him.

I'm trusting the the manager 100% which everyone should do, including the Portuguese tw*t vying for a move. But still got the little concerns.

Will you rather we sign a DM and then a CB? In Lisandro, we are using a stone to kill 2 birds...We don't have UCL football to look forward to which is a cash windfall so, we have to be every penny wise in the market...

We still have a RB, RWF and possibly CF to sign so, if we can get players who can play 2 different positions as a stop-gap option then it's fine...

ChristineC:
I don't see how such goal contribution will sit down for passing the ball around. fans tend to narrow fernandes to just goals and assists. there's no need further need dissecting Bruno's contribution outside goals and assists, I believe it has been done on these pages severally.
the man features in the top brackets for almost every segment. he has also demonstrated an ability to pull a team forward by himself. he may have had a poor season by his own standards last time, I believe what he needs is adequate rest.
there's no way the manager drops an x-factor just because.

The x-factor in one system might just be a squad player in another...No one is questioning the quality of Bruno but then, he has to adjust his game to fit in...Can he adjust? Time will tell...