European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:17pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Malacia starting for Feynoord doesn't change the facts that he's still a young potential that'll be eased into the team gradually. I have my money on Shaw as the starting LB next season.
Pretty sure no one's really banking on Eriksen playing as an AM next season. Sure he'll probably still have the same struggles. Btwn, before that move to Inter, he aso had a very average year at Tottenham. So that's years of underperformance, no matter the excuse.
Lisandro is brought in to be a CB. We went from Timber to Torres to Lisandro. If he's not brought in to be a CB, what's the point? Cuz we desperately need a CB.
As for FDJ, Barca is not the reason we've still not agreed personal terms with him. Fact is he's hoping the transfer window closes without him having to move away.
As for the last paragraph, go back to what started this Convo. I never said the signings are trash or close to being trash. We desperately need a CB? Lisandro can easily slot in as DM in games where we can afford to play Lindelof/Maguire/Tuanzebe...This is a new coach with new methods so, be open to surprises, a couple of players we seldom thought were trash will step up... As for Eriksen, he has still got it im him. He can easily replace Bruno or VDB whichever way ETH opts to use him...He gives us options, quality options... Malacia? Time will tell... Are you really following the reports on FDJ situation? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:35pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ChristineC: I think you are joking with this your conclusion. I am not...In all, Bruno isn't a bad player but can he tweak his game to fit into the new system? I have my doubts but then, let's leave it to time... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:31pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Watched Erikson for that year before he went to Inter Milan, watched him at Inter Milan as well. He was bang average. That's almost 3 years of football. But seems he got his groove back at Brentford. It's still though.
Martinez is Ten Hag's second choice from his CB options in Ajax. The first choice is 5'11 and there were complaints about his height. The second choice is 5'9....
Malacia is a prospect just like Amad and the likes. It's 50-50 with those.
We've been in discussion with Dejong for months now. And man still hasn't said his full yes. He's still really hoping to stay at Barca.
All of these players apart from Dejong could potentially be squad players. I know it's hard to imagine with all our players looking shitty now. Malacia is not like Amad in terms of experience...Malacia was the starting LB for Feynoord the 3rd best team in the Eredivisie whilst Amad barely played up to 3 games with the first team of Atalanta. Eriksen was not bad at Inter, Conte's set up doesn't accommodate an AM hence his struggles... Lisandro is no slush, he can do it as a DM, LB and CB without a drop in quality...He is a starter in that Argentine team. De Jong's issue has more to do with Barca and not us. I'm sure once his issue with Barca is sorted out, he'll join... I'm certain Lisandro, FDJ, Antony and Eriksen will play huge roles as starters or rotating starters if we all get them...Even Malacia might displace Shaw before October if Shaw doesn't step up... Now, it is important you know that no new signing is guaranteed to start, they're here to replace those who prior had under performed but in any case where existing players step up, you don't expect the new player to start jist because he is a new signing and not starting doesn't mean the new player is trash and was not a necessary buy... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:29pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Unlimited22: Dan-Axel Zagadou is now a free agent at 23 and no big club deh look him side.
I remember when we couldn't rest on this thread for shouts of Zagadis and Zagadat Kagawa10, he might be gone but traces of his mad takes lives one... Where's Poole and Josh Harrop? Kagawa issa legend. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:27pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: How did that post suggest i didn't want a new RB? I called ovo.P to let him know ETH actually want to sign a RB, since he was questioning United signing a LB rather than a RB... Okay, I thought you were critical of the idea seeing that ovo.P has been questioning all the signings and players we are linked to... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:25pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Oasis007: ETH: "I have to learn, to know my squad, the personnel, the individuals, the players.
"That is, I think, one of the biggest advantages from the tour. We have two weeks to work really close together and we will learn about each other because I want to learn about them and they want to learn about me, my coaches and assistants.” Let him learn fast o! Some of those players are very deceitful. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:33pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Expert17: ETH will bench a player with 217 g/a in 5 seasons averaging 43g/a per season. 
Even in his worst season he was the highest assist provider in UCL.
By December "I told you so" shall commence
 Bruno understands that stats can easily mask performance hence he strives to score or assist just so when you look back you'd absolve him of any blame but not all of us use stats alone to judge players... Over 90mins, Bruno will play trash only to score or assist and next thing, the headlines are dominated by his goal or assist...Stats has done more harm than good... David Silva, Fabregas and co posed god numbers yet they were very mich involved in controlling the flow of their team... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:27pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Expert17: Bruno played for the 3rd best team in Portugal and beasted every individual awards and stats. Goals, assists, chances created, league best player.
Just imagine Bruno playing for the best team in Holland. 
It's only in their head VDB will bench Bruno as a 10/SS It's about the style of play, will Bruno fit in? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:24pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ovoP: I still don't see VDB starting.. he may have done well that ajax season, but he's a limited player.. man can't play a long pass to save his life.. there's a reason he could never bench Bruno, even in his worse form. He plays too safe.. Eriksen can but I think him and Bruno will play together. Besides eriksen wouldn't be able to press as much. VDB can't play long pass? He game isn't all about that but if there's a good chance, he will go long...I see you're sold on Bruno's long passes which are mostly not accurate... Top team use quick interchanges in midfield to bypass press and create spaces for forward players...Bruno is most at risk ATM... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:38pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Oasis007:

Somebody that should released to Nottingham Forest free of charge. Forrest will probably reject him...Salford City will be a good fit...Neville, take one for United... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:37pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
afrodoc: I like that there is competition in that position. Bruno was too petulant last season and his discipline fell off. I still don't see how VDB gets a starting shirt though he could be a valuable member of the team. With 5 subs per match there should enough opportunities for everyone. VDB has the advantage of knowing the system and is very good at it so, he'd thrive alongside other players who are comfortable on the ball passing and movement alike... A midfield 3 of FDJ, VDB and Eriksen will see a lot of intricate plays between them compared to a Bruno who will quickly opt for a difficult ball in search of the striker...In all, VDB chances of starting depends on what ETH does with another potential arrival in Lisandro... In ETH's system, it's VDB over Bruno regardless of the struggles of VDB last seaaon. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:30pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Oasis007:

Jones is left behind to working on personal fitness. Let them shred the contract abi na him papa get the ground wey Old Trafford dey sit on? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:28pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ovoP: they failed because we didn't have a competent manager, and the team was disjointed. When dey leave us, they do better Let me assume you are right so, why do you think the players coming in will struggle under a competent manager? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:27pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
afrodoc: What happens to Bruno? 
 He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:39pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
A midfield 3 of FDJ, VDB and Eriksen is good enough against any other midfield in the league...If we need more grit, Lisandro (Assuming he is signed as reported) can play as DM with one of the aforementioned 3 on the bench. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:35pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: utdreport: Erik ten Hag wants a right-back as well as a centre-back #mulive [@samuelluckhurst]
Cc: ovoP You don't think we need a new Rb? Lisandro is close to joining so, the Cb position is nearly sorted. You can't criticize Ole for signing AWB and Maguire and still question the decision of the new manager to bring in quality players to man those positions unless you were just criticizing Ole for criticism sake... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:30pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
Abeg make una free ETH...If he fails to deliver the goods, he will be called out here and I will lead the charge however, he hasto be supported by the board by getting him the players he recommends...
You guys are making the mistake of comparing us with clubs that have a clear footballing philosophy. Give ETH time to get us playing a particular brand of football andfrom there, the director of football work with the scouts can continue...You don't follow the lead of scouts who do not even understand how we intend to play this season... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:18pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ChristoBam: We'll pay more then 50m. If we're about to pay 45m for Martinez.
Btwn, I support going for the Manager's choice. Even as I don't like any of them. What is wrong with them? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:17pm On Jul 08, 2022 |
ovoP: YThis is my issue, average players..
Bro there are other transfer windows for that, we have bigger issues in the team, the deal will only make sense, if we are able to ship out either one of telles or Shaw at a reasonable price... wanbisakka and dalot is a calamity, there is a reason we don't ever attack from the right side and we clog the left side of the pitch Abeg stop already. Are you not tired of big name players and so called EPL proven players who have joined us and failed? See you complaining of Malacia like WTF! You are not tired of Shaw and Telles? One of them will definitely leave... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:19pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Utdreport: Both Antony and Lisandro Martínez have placed pressure on Ajax to accept #mufc's current offers for them #mulive [@DuncanCastles]
At least this two are showing strong interest in joining United.... We should push to close the deal ASAP... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:36pm On Jul 07, 2022 |
TeslaFC: Is that what you deduced from my response? Lmao
Look, all fingers are not equal. Ronaldo has a standard of success and that standard is simply not being met by Man United. Let that player not named Ronaldo set his own standard of success first.
Look at the situation from Ronaldo’s perspective.
• United plans to use a 38yr old throughout next season as their striker. • United does not have one defensive midfielder in the senior team. • United has not replaced any player that left. • United has gone from a Champions League club to Europa League regular patronizers. • United used to play around 1st or 2nd position regularly, at worse, 3rd. Now, coming 4th is acceptable BeCauSe tHey aRe reBuIlding. • One of UCL, EPL, and FA Cup used to be considered the minimum standard, now just any cup will do, no matter how small or flat it is.
With the way last season ended, one would think that United will go about their business vigorously this summer, but here we are.
When you’re obsessed with success, there are things you simply will not permit.
N.B. EPL is less than a month away. Ronaldo will definitely want to be the main starter so how will you say he'd be disappointed if the club relies on him? We have other options who can fill in especially against weak opponents... The other points about replacing players, we are after FDJ to replace Pogba and from information available, the deal has not been concluded because Barca are obligated to pay FDJ money they owe him before he can leave. Eriksen is joining us to replace Mata and we are after Lisandro who can slot in at DM or play the LCB position effortlessly. From the look of things, Arsenal have cooled their interest paving the way for us... Malacia has been signed to provide competition for Shaw with Telles likely to be sold...We have put in a bid for Antony. I believe we will sign both Lisandro and Antony... Do not forget that VDB will be coming back to play under a coach and system he excelled in whilst in Ajax. How can you have all the above information and still say we are not making effort to improve or replace departing players? If anything, Ronaldo leaving at this point rather complicates things for us as I don't think a CF was part of the plan this summer. It is reported that we have 200m to spend and from what we have done or are trying to do, FDJ + Malacia = 100m Antony + Lisandro = 100m Unless we make money off player sales or Ronaldo leaves I don't see us going after a striker as it was never on the cards... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:11am On Jul 07, 2022*. Modified: 11:41am On Jul 07, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Why won't he ask to leave, when many of you accused him of being responsible for all the problems of the world last season. You all should be happy he wants to leave, sebi Maguire will become a beast of a defender now, Rashford and Martial will start scoring for fun and McFred will turn prime Scholes/Keane combo when Ronaldo leaves. All Ronaldo haters should find a new hubby ... Is Ronaldo the most criticized Man Utd player? Hell No! So, why the fuss? Shaw, Maguire, Rashford, Bruno, Martial, De Gea, Fred and others have been criticized even when they have had good moments in the past so, why are you perturbed now that your fav is being criticized? That's how Bruno fanboys used to try to silence those who asked that Bruno improves but since Ronaldo joined, majority have jumped on the Ronaldo bandwagon hence you can criticize Bruno here and still be alive a minute later... Ronaldo should please leave. I can imagine a scenario where you lots will turn on ETH for benching Ronaldo especially if he starts throwing tantrums via his sister and agent...Ronaldo for all he has achieved is not bigger than Man Utd... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:02am On Jul 07, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Utdreport: #mufc have made a £51m bid for Antony #mulive [@jamesalanrobson] Good development. I hope we sign him ASAP. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi Speaks On Petrol Subsidy by patrickmuf(m): 2:10pm On Jul 06, 2022 |
In essence, what is his position? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:42am On Jul 06, 2022 |
[quote author=ChristoBam post=114460956] saw your Twitter handle promoting Poch...  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:38am On Jul 06, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: I have not seen any holding midfielder linked to United, abi De Jong will play CM and HM together. ETH is playing with fire if he thinks De Jong and Erikson only will solve our midfield problem, we need a very good HM to play with Erikson or De Jong (if he eventually joins). Lisandro can effectively play that position if he joins... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:37am On Jul 06, 2022 |
MRTA7: No. easily sell to where? with the high wages he'll get as a free agent? he's a definite NO for me. he has regressed badly. I would have thought we've learnt our lessons signing players like that. Regressed badly? After just a season where he struggled? I remember I suggested we sign Ings a couple of years back but some of us here were against the move, the same Ings that moved to Southampton and was very good... To sign a player of Dybala's quality, you'll need to cough out at least 50m so, if we sign him on a wages of 200-250k for 3 yrs I wouldn't mind... There's a general dearth of quality attacking players in the market so, I'd rather we sign Dybala than nothing... NB: I rather we sign Antony but if we don't, then Dybala will be an upgrade on what we have currently as I am not sure Amad and Pellestri are ready to step up and Greenwood is still not training with the team while Sancho seems to favor the LW position. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:35am On Jul 06, 2022 |
Oasis007: "Paulo Dybala's agents are discussing with Manchester United", per the reliable Di Marzio.
Dybala to Utd, YES or NO? YES... We need more players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet. He will be joining on a free so, if he flops we can easily sell him. The problem now is where he will play because as a RWF he will spend most of the time drifting into the AMF space thus we have to have a very explosive RB else our RW will be dead... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:47pm On Jul 05, 2022 |
afrodoc2: It will be interesting to see how much he has left and how he will fit into the squad.
Cardiac arrest is no joke. Heart surgery is no joke. Well, time will tell... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:36pm On Jul 05, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:32pm On Jul 05, 2022 |
saintkeppy: .
All these things are just stories, Maguire should have gladly gave the captaincy to CR7, there is no excuse for them to perform, they should be happy they have CR7 as a motivator in the team, dude tried his best for the team scoring 18 PL goals, scores important goals in UCL, most of his goals came on stoppage time to earn a point or save the club from embarrassing defeats. Who wouldn't love to have CR7 in his team.
I still maintain my stance, the current Man Utd team/squad don't deserve CR7.
Maguire with a whole Captain band was just running aimlessly within his own half, a complete mediocre with £80Million price Tag.
Sancho, Rashford, Pogba were just being there on big weekly wages, doing nothing special.
Paul Pogba is gone for free, I don't even feel it.
Kudos to David D'Gea despite poor defence, till manage to save over 100 goal-bound shots fired from all angles throughout the season. How convenient to put a player ahead of the club. Did he dribble his way to score the 18 goals? Was he not supported by others? Last 2 seasons you guys clamoured for Sancho berating the board whenever possible but what difference did Sancho make when he was signed last season? Varane? I don't believe Varane is all of a sudden bad neither do I believethesame Sancho we watched at Dortmund is trash. In De Gea, Varane, VDB, Bruno, Eriksen (As good as done), Sancho etc We have a good crop of players while the likes of Rasford, Martial, Dalot and Shaw (Malacia) are not entirely useless. We still trying to get FDJ, Lisandro and prolly Antony. If we get all of them then it's a very successful summer. If Ronaldo had made it clear he was leaving from the get-go, I am certain we wouldhave been in for any of Nunez/Haaland/Nkunku etc. Personally I want Ronaldo gone just so ETH has full controll of the dressing room... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:50pm On Jul 05, 2022 |
Ellexy: Tbh the club hasn't even done anything yet to make Ronaldo look bad. The salary you're talking about is not a secret, the 25% salary reduction is not a secret as well, an average Joe knows this.
It's Ronaldo and his camp that's wants to create unnecessary drama and put us back in search of a striker in an almost strikerless market. Gbam! |