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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:04am On Sep 29, 2021
eph12:
Never said he did. I only wanted to be sure you're aware of that.

What defensive contributions does Pogba, Greenwood, Sancho etc have? What are their interceptions like?
Sancho and Greenwood will track back if Ole demands it from them. I have seen Greenwood doing that time without number. Pogba might not be very good defensively but even he does more than any of the PSG front 3...

The point is that people will criticize Pochettino for playing 2 DMs and one CM if the do not win games but because they're effective, nobody will complain. If McFred perform like Herrera and Gueye yesterday, I'm sure you won't have folks complaining about them.

Another point is that Veratti played as a CM very close to the two DMs so he was always available to receive the ball as soon as they won it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:36am On Sep 29, 2021
eph12:
Also note that Herrera played with Gueye who had about twice Herrera's defensive contributions. To be very clear, Herrera was dribbled thrice yesterday.
Gueye was exceptional doesn't mean Herrera didn't have a very good game. Gueye was tasked with covering for their LB whilst Herrera covered for Hakimi...The problem PSG had is that their front 3 do not contribute as much defensively.

Bar Ronaldo, our others options in attack help out defensively which is supposed to make the job easier for McFred but still they fail to adequately do their job.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:17pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
They really aren’t. They are good players, they aren’t top of the shelf.

Attached is the Ballon d’Or rankings in 2009.

I dare you to find any season of ballon d’Or top 5 ranking where Ronaldo’s team mates dominated the list like this one.
Well, let's leave it here, Ronaldo is your GOAT while Messi is mine.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:12pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
No matter how bad their wavelength is, it can’t be as bad as playing next to Greenwood and Sancho. Neymar is Neymar, Mbappe is Mbappe.

Should we add the trophies won on both sides of the coin and tabulate? If Ronaldo had Mbappe/Neymar against Villa or Young Boys, he would get a hat trick in both games.
From the game today, did you see any sequence of play that suggested Ronaldo would have scored a hattrick of goals? Who will create the chances for him? Neymar that wants to be the star of the show or Mbappe that is himself struggling to score?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:08pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
These are tier B players.

None of them compares to the quality Messi had at Barcelona.

You are comparing Rooney and Tevez to someone that has had Ronaldinho, Etoo, David Villa, Suarez, etc as team mates.

The level at Barcelona was always higher.
Modric, Ramos, Kroos, Casillas, Ozil, Di Maria, James Rodriguez, Bale, Benzema, Marcelo, Varane, Vidic, Van Der Sar, Scholes, Evra were world class...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:55pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
How many players in this list made top 5 in Ballon d’Or ranking?

There was a time Iniesta and Xavi was dragging top 3 with Messi and Ronaldo. That’s the difference.

The one Modric won was just politics in play because Ronaldo fell out with Florentino Perez and he got punished for abandoning the ship for Juventus.

Even currently, Messi has better players surrounding him in a farmer’s league in comparison to upstarts like Greenwood or Martial.

If Messi doesn’t score 90 goals this season, questions need to be asked from this trio. cheesy
Modric won it...

The thing is that whilst the trio look fantastic on paper, they're not quite of the same wavelength on the pitch...Before Messi's goals tonight, he had tried that move severally but Mbappe will rather attempt to take on many players and lose the ball. Too many big egos in that attack and it's hampering the team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:54pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
No one said Messi won’t have any impact in the PL. The debate is if he would get the Barca numbers in the PL.

So you have to remove the Xavi/Iniesta factor from his career and replace it with McFred.
Ronaldo had Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra and others when he produce those numbers...With such quality, Messi will do same or even more...

As of now, we still have Bruno, Pogba, Sancho, Cavani, Varane, Shaw etc...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:39pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
None of these players have Ronaldo’s numbers . Which of them scored 42 goals in one season while winning PL/CL and the golden boots in those 2 competitions?

Ronaldo is the last PL player to win Ballon d’Or. Why hasn’t any player in your list come close to winning it if it’s piece of cake?

Ronaldo is the GOAT, bro.
Those guys came from Spain and dominated the EPL, what makes you think Messi will struggle where Aguero, Silva, Fabregas and others before them excelled?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:38pm On Sep 28, 2021
Ronaldo went from Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Scholes, Giggs to Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo, Casillas etc to Chiellini, Bonucci, Dybala etc to Pogba, Fernandez, Varane, Cavani etc Bottom line is that they have always been supported by the best players in their respective leagues...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:33pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
He doesn’t.

Ronaldo is the GOAT. Messi has always played in teams with world class players.

Mbappe is better than Sancho
Neymar is better than Martial/Pogba/Greenwood.



Playing in one off games against PL sides after getting a rest over the weekend is different from facing them week in week out.
If David Silva, Fabregas, Aguero, Torres and the likes can do it in England then I am certain Messi at City or Liverpool will do 3 times more damage...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 10:31pm On Sep 28, 2021
If you want to get on the nerves of Hulk, post update on Madrid women team or Madrid basket ball team tomorrow morning...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:29pm On Sep 28, 2021
Bombblacks:
Is it same Messi fans who do support Argentina over Nigeria in a world cup match and you think it's just banter? I bet you if United meet Psg they will be rooting for Messi to get one over Ronaldo.
Abeg spare us your sermon. The Ronaldo you are yapping about, didn't he score against us and celebrated like there was no tomorrow?

Was he not close to joining City until Fergie and former United players pressured the Glazers to act?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:25pm On Sep 28, 2021
27 goals in 31 games against the best the EPL has to offer but no, he will struggle against Norwich, Newcastle and the likes...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:20pm On Sep 28, 2021
Illimitable:
How does what people write on NL affects the performance of Ronaldo or Messi?

I like the bants. Even in their retirement, I want the banter to continue if they take coaching jobs.

It’s what football is all about.

Endless bants!
I just tire...By the way, Herrera dropped another very good performance...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 10:16pm On Sep 28, 2021
TheHulk616:
Explain
1. Fraud hazard
2. Sale of varane and ramos.
3. Pères
4. Fraud mbappe.
5. Carlo
Mbappe follow? This guy don crazed finish... grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 10:15pm On Sep 28, 2021
FirstbornWds:
And guess who assisted?

Akpororo Mbappe..


E SOAK
Hehehe
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 10:13pm On Sep 28, 2021
TheHulk616:
We sold ramos and varane for this!!!!!!

Pèrez out for this disappointment and disgrace
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:09pm On Sep 28, 2021
Bombblacks:
So basically some of you here will be praying Ronaldo doesn't score or perform for us whenever we are playing. Fada lord.
We prefer Messi doesn't mean we will wish Ronaldo bad...Don't take the bants too serious...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:07pm On Sep 28, 2021
Una never hala...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:49pm On Sep 28, 2021
Mbappe should calm down...He is forcing it
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:44pm On Sep 28, 2021
benji93:
GOAT move. grin
Hehehe You sef don report for night duty...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:41pm On Sep 28, 2021
Expert17:
GOAT can't score in farmers league But just scored EPL champions cool
I know say you no get forgiving spirit...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:40pm On Sep 28, 2021
Expert17, good evening...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:39pm On Sep 28, 2021
Oasis007:
Messi may leave PSG at end of Season. Neymar and Mbappe are playing childish, foolish and very stupid football.
You sef dey see am? Trying to dribble when it's better to pass...I no know whether them no dey learn from Messi...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 9:36pm On Sep 28, 2021
Alejandrah:
grin

He's a legend here.

I really like him.
He is very funny.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 9:03pm On Sep 28, 2021
I came here to read Hulk616's comments...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:14pm On Sep 28, 2021
nitrogen:
Honestly, apart from the fact that he is not competent, his mentality is also shyte. Always yapping like a parrot.
Very poor mentality. I won't be surprised if we fail to win tomorrow...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:13pm On Sep 28, 2021
Ole should be banned from talking about DNA...This Ole na scam.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 8:44am On Sep 28, 2021
Ebukacute:
Good morning everyone.
I'm plus 1 today
Birthday blessings...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by patrickmuf(m): 5:06pm On Sep 27, 2021
raumdeuter:
Everyone for Madrid don taya for the guy, He is no longer playing in the English Farmers league where he will use monkey post dribble to bamboozle them
Hulk's own cracks me up...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:04pm On Sep 27, 2021
CrystalTiger:
We never even qualify from our UCL group or played up to 10 matches for EPL and here dey like this..This pressure go must burst pipe las las..

Buy this and buy that, it makes no modafvcking difference because our playing pattern is pure sh!t..Been wondering how we'd be able to beat Villareal undecided..

Unless OGS is shown the door, this dragging go must touch everybody..For those obsessed about controlling the midfield, have we ever controlled any midfield in 3yrs?..mtchew undecided undecided
It's no surprise that we have not won any title in 3 years...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:36pm On Sep 27, 2021
TrebleChamp:
And na Bruno fault say Ole stock to McFred, instead of getting good ball playing midfielders?
Baba we don move on from this matter...

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