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TrebleChamp:
Bruno is now the problem, Pogba was here for 3 years before Bruno yet our midfield was shit. Pogba, Fred and McTominey all start in midfield but it is Bruno that should come and be dictating midfield . Its like telling Lampard to dictate midfield, when he had Makalele, Ballack, Essien, Deco and a host of other mildielder at Chelsea during his time. Bruno is no Pirlo, Xavi or Scholes, his job as an attacking midfielder is to get the ball from Pogba and co, create chances for our attackers and score goals. If Pogba and his midfield crew cannot do their job properly, get other players who can.....

You are comparing our situation with what Lampard had at Chelsea...

Seriously, you dey compare McFred to Makelele, Essien, Ballack, Deco and co? Na wa o!

afrodoc2:
But that is not what i asked na. What i said was that Larride wants you to walk him through your though process.

Well, he is one of the intelligent guys here so, he should be able to discern what's up...

afrodoc2:
Larride wants you to walk him through your thought process.

Let's continue with Pogba on the left wing and Bruno as the AM and McFred at the base...We are doing great...

maik99:
it's crazy what the pains of defeat will make people say

una dey drag Bruno, who was by far our best player yesterday. Emphasis on "by far"

some people say make he dey drop for middle, after una manager don play the useless twins there, yet somehow it's bruno's fault that those 2 are not better than fellaini was as a midfielder

Bruno never win trophy? despite it being proved over and over again that no one player or coach can win a trophy alone in football

una be disappointments like una coach

So, if you acknowledge that McFred have limitations, what do you suggest we do?

One section of the fan base here have accepted that we have a problem no thanks to Ole hence are proposing a solution they think will work but you guys keep pointing at the problem...Who dey follow una argue say McFred no be problem? Una just no want talk about the solution because it involves Bruno and na una guy...No difference between some of you and Ole...

elrony:
Amaka needs to go, hence we might finally turn on all our useful players.

With the array of players at his disposal, there's no harm in trying something different from McFred

Baba you have spoken well, you deserve another feather on your cap...

elrony:
So Bruno doesn't drop deep?

He should do his job and also do the job of the two training cones in midfield wearing United jersey and collecting salary.

See as Ole uselessness for transfer window don become Bruno problem

Bro, we are looking for a solution since Ole has decided that it must be McFred or nothing...That's my own point of view, what do you think is the way forward especially now that the clueless Ole rather deploys Pogba on the left wing?

This Gil should be starting ahead of Alli...

michaellovaldo:
Brother I no fit calm down o

buh seriously in my own opinion,the job of an attacking midfielder is to create chances and connect the midfield to the attack,which I think bruno does well...not to dominate any yeye midfield.

Before you argue,make sure you saw the impact made by bruno when brought in the second half (away match) Vs West ham last season

If Bruno work na to dominate midfield,wetin come be pogba work or he still need more unlocking?

Where did Pogba play from against West Ham and Aston Villa? You expect him to leave the left wing and come and assist the two limited twins we parade? It's Ole that insist on that 4 2 3 1 formation even when we don't have the personnel for it at the moment or he doesn't have the guts to drop certain players and select others who are best suited for the formation because they're not superstars...

michaellovaldo:
Sorry o bro,I just have a couple of questions to ask.

If given the chance, would you swap Bruno for odegaard?

And the season we signed bruno,do you feel odegaard would have had the same impact in team if we signed him instead?

Baba calm down, na banter dey go on for here...

Oasis007:


Me and Expert dey same Team in another Thread against Handelex..... LMFAO.

Hehehe...

Oasis007:


If Expert and his Legion catch you eh..... LMFAO.

Na still my guys them be but it no go stop us from speaking up when necessary...

Oasis007:


He's coming deep to help with play, not having his ball eyes set on dragging final ball with Attackers.

If I speak them go twist my word to mean say I want make Bruno play DM...

Odegaard has been at the heart of most Arsenal moves without necessarily popping up with an assist himself...If na here, them go dey hail ESR and Saka forget the brain behind the beautiful play.

Odegaard was the best player in that first half...

What you expect from an AM...

Oasis007 no quote me mention Bruno abeg...

jpmoriarti:
If you are still hellbent on singling out the coach, when it is obvious our squad is way too limited for a club of our level, then that's your opinion.

The squad is limited yes but against some teams that squad is still more than good enough.

jpmoriarti:
And you hate him. So nothing will also change from your point of view. I am not a fan of Koeman. I am a fan of Barcelona. My likeness or hatred of Koeman cannot affect my judgment. Unlike you emotional guyz here

Koeman is simply not good enough but if you think he is, that's your opinion...

jpmoriarti:
What is your definition of playing well?

I will tell we played well against Cadiz and Granada.

Against Cadiz, we had a man sent off in the 65 mins but still had chances later to even try to win the game. Against Granada, they scored a goal in the first minutes and then proceeded to put 10 men behind the ball. Made things difficult for the team. Exactly what Hercules and Sporting Gijon will usually do.

The thing is that you like Koeman so, nothing will change...

jpmoriarti:
Guardiola with the best Barca team ever, also struggled against Sporting Gijon and Hercules. We even lost to Hercules at Camp Nou at one point. So what is your point?

Barcelona played well in those games. Against Granada and Cadiz, the performance was way below par.

jpmoriarti:
Not only are we worrying about a squad that lacks depth and quality, we are also worrying about a squad that is too small. Imagine only Demir, Ansu Fati and Puig on bench. Assuming Ansu didnt come back today, it'll be just Demir and Puig.

Yet people are here still calling Koeman. If Guardiola is the coach here, he will also struggle like mad.

E go better

You always look for excuses for Koeman...Baba might have issues but the current team is still good enough to hold their own against any other team in the league bar Madrid, Atletico and maybe Sevilla...You don't struggle against Granada and Cadiz when you are Barcelona no matter what.

In the long run, we need to sign a top class DM but for the time being, Bruno and Pogba have to play as CMs with clear instructions to put in a shift and not leave all the defensive work to whoever is behind them or Ole drops one of Bruno or Pogba for VDB.

When we talk about Bruno we are not hating but only highlighting the adjustment he needs to make in his game to help the problem we have already identified that is McFred so, bringing up he instance Scholes and Carrick into the debate alongside Rooney is you not getting the drift. We have identified a problem and we are proposing a way forward but you guys rather dwell on the cause of the problem. As it stands, the market is closed, so we have to make do with what we have hence the suggestion that Bruno has to drop a bit deeper and take calculated risk...Stop saying McFred is the problem, what's the solution for now?

Also, Pogba has been played as a left winger for the past 2 EPL game so it will amount to you propagating an agenda when you want to blame him for our issues in the middle...Rather blame Ole for shunting his best midfielder out wide on the left wing.

Back to Rooney, it was because of his penchant to drop deep that Fergie to sign a proper CF in Van Persie. Back then, it was frustrating to SEE Rooney dropping deep when there was no need to. I believe it forced Fergie's hand to sign a proper 9. Now, Rooney dropping deep was hampering that team up front because we have quality CMs but the reverse is the case now hence the need for Bruno to drop deep or Ole plays Pogba alongside any of McFred or Matic...

Harry Kaane is towing the Rooney path, at first it looks good watching him drop deep to create chances but soon Spurs will realize the gapping hole he leaves up front by constantly dropping deep.

eph12:
That's because not many teams can play like city did yesterday.

Is it rocket science or are City players so good?

We have seen City vs PSG and they outplayed PSG even when PSG have players who are equally as good if not better than those of City...

The difference is the coach...A good coach will do wonders with a good team. We have a. Good team but it ends there...Ole is terrible...

Watch Brighton play today if you're chance and you'd see a team coached by a coach who knows what he is doing even though they don't have top players in their ranks...

CapitalCee:
When you criticise Bruno constructively we will know. Baba our Problem is Mcfred they are useless. Play Carrick and Scholes behind Bruno, we wont be having this discussions. Put prime Zidane in front of McFred, the team will struggle. Lets stop beating about the bush we know the problem. Bruno is doing his work and he drops back occasionally to perform defensive duties, his function is to create and he is creating loads if our CDM/CM fails to do their work then they should carry their cross alone.

How else can someone explain that since McFred are not good enough, Bruno has to drop deep to help them retain possession. Bruno is better than both on the ball and we both know McFred don't have the passing range thus once they get the ball, they need Bruno close so they can make a less risky pass to find him as it is almost certain they'd over hit or under the pass if he isn't anywhere close to them 7 times out of 10...

It's in lieu of the deficiencies of McFred that we think Bruno has to help us in retaining possession by d roping deep and reduce his risky passes.

Expert17:
GOOD, so the problem is not BRUNO but McFred.

That's why I always say a good coach will mask the obvious deficiencies we have in that area of the pitch...

You watch City play and you hardly see Rodri chasing an opposition attacker all game. We have 11 players on the pitch doing their thing on an individual basis, we don't have a team of 11 players...At City, all the DM has to do most times is mop up loose balls after the attackers must have pressure the opposition to shoot the ball clear but here, we don't attack or defend as a unit that's why every team we come against look good until to watch them against City, Liverpool or Chelsea...

KinzyeWriter:
Obviously, the way we see things is different.

But most of the times, I have seen us in a 4 - 2 - 4 formation simply because Bruno is up with the front three trying to get involved in the goal.

This leaves our midfield scanty and prone to danger.

Many-a-times I have seen this. But it still boils down to the manager's incompetence if you ask me.

Gbam!

Expert17:
Who was helping Carrick and Scholes in midfield??

Who was helping Cleverley and Carrick??

You don't get the point, do you?

If we had. Ndidi and Koke in midfield, nobody will be asking Bruno to drop deep and help them retain possession.

We all acknowledge that we have a problem keeping the ball in midfield because McFred are not good on the ball and Ole will stupidly shunt Pogba to the wing when he should be playing close to those twins to help dictate the play. It's because Pogba is on e the wing that makes Bruno dropping back a necessity. So, unless Ole decides to pair Pogba along on of McFred or have VDB in place of one of them, we will continue to struggle to control the game hence the call for Bruno to drop a bit deeper.

CapitalCee:
Majority of blame on Ole. Yet no blame for the stupid Fred who cannot hold on the ball abd find his nearest man to save his life, no blame for Mctoms that hides in games and plays nonsense. No blame for pogba that showboats and plays sluggishly and lose possession in dangerous areas. Apart from Ole all the blame must be on Bruno who is the only creative spark in the team. Yesterday Bruno was everywhere working his socks off. Yet he is the problem. Abeg talk another thing abeg

Baba Fred is one of the most criticized player here. Pogba has been dragged too just same way McTom had it hot from the fans yesterday...

Why you guys feel Bruno should not be talked about is what I don't understand...

As for Ole, if you think Fred is rubbish, McTom too and Pogba was holding onto the ball unnecessarily, why did it take Ole so long to replace McTom? Ole consistently rewards bad performances.

I have said it here before that Ole doesn't allow for a fair competition if not VDB would have displaced one of McFred and Pogba and Bruno should have been fighting for a spot on the team...The only reason Ronaldo and Varane are starting is because of their status if not Ole would've had them on the bench for so long that his fan boys will start telling us they're not good enough...

melodyogonna:
That Werner, how he managed to finish the game is what I don't know. City were just too good for Chelsea, too good

City blocked all the passing lanes thus Chelsea had to go long. Only Kovacic had the skills to go past his marker that's why he was at the Centre of most good play from Chelsea.

Chelsea still look like a team that will be right up there...

Expert17:
Our problem is not scoring goals, creating chances, passes in games, attacking moves, big chance creation.... OUR problems are central midfield control, keeping clean sheets, lack of communication at the back, no attacking contribution from our full backs

So point at anyone that affects Bruno?

We don't have a problem scoring goals as we have players who are clinical in attack but we definitely have a problem creating chances talk less of big chances, retaining possession and pressing as a team. I feel Bruno can do better in helping us retain possession but the majority of the blame is on Ole.

We have almost zero attacking contributions from our fullbacks.

Our pressing is about the worst from the title challengers...

With or without an expert DM, we should be able to dominate Aston Villa at Old Trafford...

I remember someone mentioned here that we shouldn't read to much meaning into our demolition of Leeds, I think it was TheLequte. To be honest, the fellow was right as we have not played well since the first game of the season.

I am just surprised that no Ole fan boy has come here to point to the results elsewhere in defense of Ole, at least they now know that it's not a good defense because if we were serious, we'd ha e sue this weekend to steal a March on our rivals.

afrodoc2:
Coming from you na agenda. Forget.

I want a Godfearing person to mention it not Messianic people like you.

Hehehe seriously we don't create a lot of chances to play Ronaldo as our CF, Cavani will be a better fit as he is naturally a hard worker.

If Ronaldo was my brother, I'd have advised him to join City as they create tones of chances for their forwards.

CapitalCee:
Sporting won the league because the brought in Amorin and signed nearly half a dozen starters. Stop hiding behind these long epistle to further your agenda. You dont like bruno admit it lets move forwrad. You are expecting somebody that plays AM who function is to link CM/DF and Attackers and also to arrive late in the box to control the Midfiled. I am not seeing any talk of how Mctoms and Fred as well as Pogba were shiting everywhere, or how Greenwood would have delivered at least 3 assists to Bruno.
Tell me any goal united scored that doesnt pass through Bruno? 90% of Man United goals passes through him so as an AM whatelse do you want him to do? Oga state your agenda this your talk no follow abeg.

No coach in the world will play Pogba on the wing to fit in any midfielder at the moment.

As for Bruno, David Silva was an AM renowned for eye catching through balls but he knew when to attempt to release the striker and when to play safe by interchanging passes with Fernandinho and KDB...

The job of an AM is to link midfield and attack but it doesn't mean that anytime the balls gets to you, you must attempt to locate your striker even when the chances of the ball reaching him or them is slim...A simple interchange of passes can drag someone out of position and that's what the likes of Oasis and nitrog.en are saying.

melodyogonna:
City marking dey sweet me die. One person go dey ur front but then, the other city players are going to stand in front of all the passing options close to to you. Na so dem no gree Chelsea hold ball yesterday

Chelsea for some reason showed little attacking intent until they went a goal behind...After City scored, Chelsea began to push higher up the pitch. Werner sef no try, they was a through pass he got from Alonso in the 1st half that he should have scored especially as he has the pace but he went wide and opted for a low cross in search of Lukaku which was easily dealt with.

afrodoc2:
Bruno has had his shyte days but yesterday is the wrong day to try to drag him. Many are just using the penalty miss to further their agenda ( i don't know if you are one of them). He was probably our best player but somehow you are now telling us that he is the reason for McFred's struggles.

Yesterday i actually pitied Fred. He was poor in the first half but grew into the game and watching him cover for McTom was painful to see. I believe McTom is not match fit but Amaka has rushed him back from his surgery because he doesn't trust Matic or VDB.

Meanwhile i noticed nobody has really mentioned CR7 standing like an Okorocha statue for most of the match.

I didn't want to mention it because most persons will leave the message and attack the messenger...