European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:05pm On Sep 27, 2021 |
Oasis007:

TrebleChamp came late to the Party, yet he won't honorably sit at the back, take his time to ask around what he has missed. Hehehe... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:52am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Replace McFred with a Competent DM, move Pogba to CM, no need to protect defence, if Varane and Magwaya cannot defend then they have no business being in Man united. Finally leave Bruno alone, many teams are envying his contribution to the tteam and wished they have him. When he plays badly he will be criticized. For now he is not. We can't replace McFred now so, what's the immediate solution? As for Bruno, I just dey catch fun for the most part but I insist he has to improve certain aspects of his game... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:49am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: McGinn and Ramsey doesn't have to carry an extra baggage of duds behind them. As Douglas Luiz was Superb, holding on to the ball, distributing well and not losing it under no pressure. And you forgot that Bruno created a record breaking chances yesterday but was spurned by Greenwood. So what do you term effectiveness? Has the ball landed yet? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:32am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Expert17: They played in a counter attacking team? Baba we no get pattern abeg... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:32am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Have you ever seen pogba helping shaw? He is not helping Mcfred, yet he couldn't help yesterday when Villa winger were obliterating Shaw upandan until he was put out of his misery. Mind you i am not blaming Pogba for out lack of midfield control, we have seen him when he played with competent players like Herrera, Matic and Kante in France or Pirlo/Marchisio in Juve. My problem is, since everybody must now abandon their jobs to help McFred, why is Pogba not told to do so too. Who believes the bolded no sabi you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Expert17: So Gundogan is better now 
What of Grealish and Havertz So, Bruno is better now? I thought he wasn't good enough while the argument lasted? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:30am On Sep 27, 2021 |
MRTA7: All this player bashing is pointless and boring.
Ole is where most of the issues lie. Even the much maligned Fred that I have take plenty of shots at does not deserve the bashing.
Ultimately, Ole has not implemented a system that allows these players to function well as a team, which is why we struggle when we face well organised teams. The team is over reliant on individual brilliance. If match winners dont win you the game we have nothing.
We dont have a manager that will hide your weaknesses while enhancing your strengths. Only Ole seems to need world class players in every position to succeed.
That squad is good enough to seriously challenge for major trophies. No other manager in the league has a squad full of world class players but the best managers are making it work and hiding their weaknesses. Well said, Ole takes majority of the blame but seeing folks who pride themselves in dragging some players become so defensive when their favourite is the subject is funny... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:28am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Until Ole is shown the door, this dragging go reach everybody... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:28am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Everyone should get ready, your MCM will be dragged someday...E go pain you but it is what it is... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:27am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: So why is he not helping? If so he does why do we still lose the midfield battle? I am surprised we are losing the midfield to Ramsey and Mcginn of this world. So the best Chance creator in the league must be stiffled Maybe if Bruno was as effective as you want to have us believe Mcginn and Ramsey would have had more defensive responsibilities leaving McFred with less to do... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:24am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Yes since Pogba, Fred and Mctoms cannot cordinate the midfield even Ronaldo and Greenwood should join in helping coordinate the midfield Blame your coach for playing Pogba on the left. Bruno plays ahead of McFred so, it's only normal for people to ask that he drops a bit deep to help coordinate the play as those two are bad on the ball and also take calculated risk... Fabregas and Ozil were assist masters but they didn't have to lose the ball as much as Bruno does to make an assist... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:21am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Expert17: If you ask them to mention any AM better than Bruno in EPL, they go dodge the question
 That's because for you, everything is all about stat...Iniesta shits on Bruno but stat will say otherwise... KDB and Gundogan are better but you will pull up stats to argue otherwise... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:19am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: You are not happy with Bruno and I have loads of people like you in twitter, you are a pogba apologist and no shame in that. But stop hiding under disguise and be setting up an agenda against someone else. Same way Martial fans hate on Rashford. You read all that and came up with this response? It's obvious you didn't read or didn't comprehend what you read... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:17am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Let's not forget that this argument popped up because some of us feel we don't keep the ball as well as we should. We lose possession too easily and that was why Bruno's name popped up.
Bruno fan boys are bringing up goals and assist contribution rather than focus on how best we can retain possession...
Manchester City have two potent weapon, their press and ball retention...If you don't have the ball, you can't hurt them... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:13am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Nobody is having pogba agenda. The issue is Bruno who is creating the highest number of chances in the EPL should go and help Mcfred battle Ramsey and Mcginn, or against wolves Moutinho and Neves. But Pogba who played from the left should never try that. Make we de talk true sometimes na For you, every thing na Pogba vs Bruno... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:12am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: But i thought you said we are not effective whenever Pogba plays from the left? So why not him kukuma leaving that position thats not working and join in rescuing Mcfred from Ramsey and Mcginn. You support Pogba staying put in the LW but Bruno is an Idio.t for daring to do his work effectively. Ok oo I am not in support of Pogba playing on the wings, you must have seen me critique Ole for that. I am not not a fan of McFred...Pogba should be play as a LCM in a midfield 3 alongside Fred/McTom/Matic and VDB but Ole is clueless...We have failed to stretch the play because we have Pogb a out wide rather than a natural winger. It must have worked against Leeds as they leave a lot of space and Bielsa is too stubborn to change tactics but subsequently teams have found us out... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:08am On Sep 27, 2021 |
I have seen people criticizing Messi and Ronaldo even though they have both been fantastic for more than a decade but Bruno that is nowhere near their level is deemed the perfect footballer by his fan boys...
I no blame una, na the level wey Ole don drag this club reach... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:04am On Sep 27, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:57am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Why will pogba not drift from the left and help?, since you yourself have admitted that he is useless there. You want someone who is doing creditably well in his position to take calculated risk, but someone who is a lame duck in his position should remain there and be eating salad. Pogba has been better than Bruno this season though... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:56am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: I wonder why your talk is not why pogba will not drift in a bit into the middle to help Mcfred or is he immune from helping the deffiecient Mcfred? Abi na only Bruno go sabi sniff the need to help. Why is Pogba in the LW not helping? I haven't seen you demand that. Constructive Criticizer ko, Catapillar critisizer Pogba has been dragged time and time again here...I have even suggested that Ole benches him and play VDB if he is not going to sign a new deal... Left for me, I will play Fred as the DM with Pogba and VDB ahead of him while Bruno plays as the AM behind Ronaldo and Greenwood but since Ole is hell bent on McFred, Bruno has to support them. If Pogba keeps leaving his position (LW) to the middle, we will be too narrow and I think lately teams have noticed that hence are taking advantage of Pogba out wide... Ole takes the blame in all of this to be honest but the players too have to up their game, it's the best we can hope for because Ole will never improve. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:50am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: You are not critixising constructively. So, asking Bruno to take calculated risk and help us in retaining possession is me hating on Bruno? Okay o! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:49am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: . In that game, he sort of had a free role and the movement from Greenwood and Bruno was top notch... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:43am On Sep 27, 2021 |
Bruno fan boys don't want anyone to talk about him but they're the most vocal when it comes to criticizing others...
I admit Bruno is the most important player in our team but it doesn't stop people from constructively criticizing him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:41am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: Tell ole to go and buy competent central midfielders and fine tune hus tactics, leave Bruno alone, he is not the only player in Man united. You hate him simple and admit it Abeg shift...When I criticize others it's because I want the good of the club but when your fav is mentioned, it's because I hate him... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:39am On Sep 27, 2021 |
CapitalCee: You fail to admit that Pogba gas been very sluggish that even with his Lw role he has been annonimous. Even when he drifts intobthe middle he loses the ball. The goal against young boys Bruno created it from that LW position likewise the equaliser agaisnt West ham. For someone that accuses others of having an agenda against Bruno, your take on Pogba is laughable... In the games we have performed well this season, was Pogba out wide? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:03am On Sep 27, 2021 |
TrebleChamp: So it is Bruno's fault that Ole chose to stick with McFred? Bruno is not a perfect footballer, but this dragging from Dablord fans no follow at all. Bruno makes our team competitive, make una tell Ole, Pogba, Fred, McTominey an Matric to do their job well..... You know my position on Ole but since them no want sack am, we have to find a way out before we lose out completely... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:30am On Sep 27, 2021 |
TrebleChamp: All this problem you highlighted are Bruno's fault. He is the problem of the team and should either be benched or sold asap.... If that is what you understood after reading what I wrote then fine... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:28am On Sep 27, 2021 |
maik99: at this rate, we should probably bench bruno and play someone who you suggest..if you may? since he's hindering our progress For you and your ilks, it must be one way or no way... Ole keeps playing McFred even at the expense of our best midfielder, Pogba and VDB who offers more...As longer as Ole is manager we will keep seeing McFred so, what do you suggest? We continue with the way we have been playing or find a way to mitigate the effect of playing the evil twins? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:24am On Sep 27, 2021*. Modified: 9:34am On Sep 27, 2021 |
afrodoc2: I have criticized Bruno here before wanting him to cut out some of his lapses BUT like i said yesterday, this weekend's game is NOT the time to criticize Bruno. He was our best player on the day. He created the most chances in a single EPL game in 3 years.
That is the first thing. Wrong person, Wrong time. Bruno's day might come but it is not now. There are multiple people to be dragged over yesterday's game first.
Secondly when one starts hearing things like he should stop stat padding then one wonders if people know what stat padding means. There are things to criticize Bruno about, i don't think stat padding is one of them.
I think i will stop here and let you guys keep up your good work. Definitely, you didn't read me say he is stat padding, he is a very good attacking midfielder one who will excel if he is focused solely on his job but at the moment, he needs to drop deep no thanks to McFred (Ole actually)...I have read some takes on Bruno which isn't correct but then you too have to acknowledge that some takes here is banter-driven... Bruno with a solid base will be awesome but at the moment, he and the team doesn't have that so your earlier take on him is still valid... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:20am On Sep 27, 2021 |
maik99: damn..i may well be a "fanboy" for defending that the player that dragged the club out of woes is not the reason that you have clueless mids as the cherry ontop of a useless manager
And how do you know that Bruno is not closer to the box as a result of Ole's instructions? Here lies the problem...Bruno is not indispensable... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:13am On Sep 27, 2021 |
maik99: i'm sorry but this makes no sense Bruno is not your fuccen manager Mcfred are not the only central mids at the club And again, if Ole wants Bruno to play closer to the pivot, he should give the instructions!!! Nothing will make sense to you Bruno fan boys. We all know Ole has signed a pact with the devil to play 4 2 3 1 every other match day which means McFred must start even if it means Pogba has to play as a CB...Ole takes the blame for his ineptitude but then, since we know he knows nothing but 4 2 3 1, is it important that certain players adjust their game to make things easier for the rest of the team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:09am On Sep 27, 2021 |
afrodoc2: My chairman don rush modify am add McFred to the statement. 
Everybody know where the problem dey, na disguise people just dey disguise.  Doc, you amaze me...No body is saying. McFred is not the problem but what is the solution? No be you suppose dey follow Bruno fans do this thing. |