European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 10:12pm On Jan 14 |
raumdeuter: Our captain need to talk to the ref this is too glaring I love the way Nwabali charged at him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 10:12pm On Jan 14 |
Them want tear Akor jersey yet he blow against us...See the foul on Lookman that he waved play on...
I am just tired. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 10:10pm On Jan 14 |
The ref is a bastard. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:45pm On Jan 14 |
Onyedika has been very shaky like Ajayi at the back. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:43pm On Jan 14 |
This ref seems to be taking instructions from the Moroccans. As soon as they protest, he blows the whistle... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:38pm On Jan 14 |
This Nwabali is senseless...What was he expecting Akor to do there against 3 men? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 9:35pm On Jan 14 |
That ref is an idiot. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump To Iranian Protesters: Keep Protesting, Help Is On Its Way by patrickmuf(m): 6:14pm On Jan 13 |
amaridigital: And so we thought about Libya. In this life and in my next one, i will never be a fool to western propaganda and imperialism again never. People forget so soon. I don't think democracy can work in the Arab world, at least not for now. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:11pm On Jan 13 |
Abeg make Saturday do reach... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:05pm On Jan 13 |
odizeey: Ahhh. You are lying o
Modified: Na true. You didn't say such. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This guy...😂 😂 😂 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: "Revolution In Iran, World Leaders Must Now Get Involved" - Zelensky by patrickmuf(m): 3:19pm On Jan 13 |
Zelensky is a clown...
Does he release that any move to force regime change will have Iran and Israel in another brutal war which will shift the focus from Ukraine as it happened during the 12-day war? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:16pm On Jan 13 |
I hear Carrick wants to bring in a defender and midfielder. If the defender is not a RB or LB, the board should not answer him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:59pm On Jan 13 |
odizeey: When you were questioned called out on this claim you said it's people on Twitter you were talking about. You don dey do am again. Hehehe. Show me where I said it's people on Twitter... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:58pm On Jan 13 |
Jamiuokolaa: Arbeloa!
I shock o!
Alonso would most likely be an option INEOS would consider, only that Liverpool would most likely be ahead of us in the race for his signature.
@ Patrick.muf, the "issue" here is that he has also played 3-4-3 in the past  😂 😂 😂 Abeg let him stay far from my club... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:04am On Jan 12 |
Do not forget that City parades two midfielders as their RB and LB...Imagine Manchester United playing Mount as RB and Amad as LB, our board for hear am...😂 😂 😂 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:56pm On Jan 11 |
eph12: Is it not clear by now that some players will not get it. Those ones that have been year for many years Yes of course, and they will be replaced but it might not be at once. If we make the top 4, we will be better placed to attract top players and spend more. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:54pm On Jan 11 |
larride: Which of your rival is bidding for Mainoo? Who will he bench in Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or Man City midfield?
Una just dey overrate nonsense for here. Amorim spoke about being a manager and not a coach. In the press release when he was sacked, the club referred to him as the coach of the first team, so it's obvious there was disagreement about his role in the club and how he influences key decisions about player acquisition or departures. Afrodoc also said he read somewhere that the club was moving in a different direction when it comes to the recruitment of players. Amorim was not comfortable hence his outburst. I think the club were not willing to bring in players suited to the 3-4-3 formation as they were not convinced that going forward the club would adopt the system. The results didn't help, it left a lot of doubts so I wouldn't blame the management... Amorim's lack of flexibility is his main undoing... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:45pm On Jan 11 |
Larride and all,
I want you guys to take time to watch our games with emphasis on how we defend as a unit. I have come to the conclusion that even if we sign Rodri, Rice and Szoboszlai, we will still struggle, maybe not as much, but certainly we will still concede a lot of chances when the opposition attacks. Football is a collective sport. The attack, midfield and defence must always be in sync at least for the majority of the game. Over here, when our attack presses, the midfield doesn't and it allows the opponent to bypass the press with simple movements. In other cases, the attack and midfield will press, but the defence will sit, leaving huge space in front of the defence. We still have not gotten this right, and it remains one of our major challenges
Today, there were a lot of instances where we tried to build from the back, but Welbeck, Rutter and the other Brighton players didn't let us, but for the majority of the game, they could easily play through haphazard press. There was a particular instance where Sesko, Mount, Bruno and Mainoo thought they had Brighton cornered, but a simple ball was played to the Brighton LW, and he was all alone because Dalot was not in sync with the rest. I am not sure the playing personnel alone will change this. Rather, the setup has to be right, and the players have to understand their roles on the pitch when we attack, press and defend. This is not clear when you watch our games, at least from what I see, and this is down to coaching and constant practice... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:23pm On Jan 11 |
larride: Right now we need quality midfielders and probably a backup striker.
Once we actually have quality midfielders it will reduce how many attacks our defense is open to.
You can't be parading Case, Ugarte and Mainoo as your CMs in big 2026 and be expecting miracle. I am not against improving the squad but let me ask, will you sanction a move for Mainoo to any of our rivals? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:21pm On Jan 11 |
eph12: No. I already gave up on Amorim long ago. His first sin was not demanding for a good CM. His thinking he could go into the season with the same midfield showed he is still a rookie. He probably thought he had a lot of time to take the team to that level most will be satisfied.
Secondly his substitutions were questionable. He struggled to rotate which shows his lack of trust in some players. That tells me he was already under a lot of pressure.
But one thing he did right was fight against those players that felt they were too big for the coach. He brought some level of discipline. If we had such discipline before, Greenwood would have been better managed. I just hope we don't relapse back because the next manager is soft.
However sacking Amorim is not everything that needs to happen in this transfer window. I agree with your points. I wanted him to speak out about the midfield, even at the risk of losing his job. He didn't realise it would be tough to get another opportunity at a top club if he failed here. He was confident in the team and must take responsibility for his poor judgment. Last summer, the board surprisingly spent on Cunha, Sesko, Mbeumo, and Lammens, even though Doc was unsure if we had up to £150m to spend on transfers. We almost signed Baleba, but Brighton's pricing was too high, showing the board's willingness to spend. Now, with only one game a week for five months, many players might not play. If we sign anyone in January, which is unlikely, they must be outgoing. Hopefully, the interim manager guides us to the top 4 while the board plans for the summer. I hope we find a permanent manager and secure deals early in the transfer window. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:59pm On Jan 11 |
larride: These same people blamed the 3-4-3 formation and not the players missing simple chances.
You are blaming 3-4-3 but want to use the stats line from the same 3-4-3
Make Una no go buy better players What positions in the team do you think we need an upgrade? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:45pm On Jan 11 |
adisaaowala: I remember when the state of OT was also seen as one of the "problems" of the club and peeps here even referenced Ronaldo's critique of our facilities.
Thankfully, £50m has been invested and no more excuses from that area  When I saw the news that Amorim had been sacked, I never thought that we will have people here defending him and faulting the board for not sticking with him... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:38pm On Jan 11 |
eph12: Where's the answer. Can you locate that position on the epl table? Are you implying that sacking Amorim was the wrong decision? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 10:25pm On Jan 11 |
Raphinha is a top player, the man for the big occasion...If he wasn't out injured for sometime, I am sure he'd already be on double digits for goals and assist if he isn’t already. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:13pm On Jan 11 |
afrodoc2: Changing the manager is one of the things to do.
Another thing to do is improving our scouting, player identification and general assessment of players.
The scouting of some of these average players might make a lot of sense to a fan who has his own job to do but watches Man United weekly and checks YouTube highlights of a player or watches the player a couple of times a season. Very importantly, it is not the fan’s duty to assess the player.
When we keep buying players that appear not good enough then it is reasonable to ask for more from the staff members whose job it is to study and analyse these players for days, weeks, months before we decide to buy them and the staff whose job it is to approve the deals.
I don’t get what you don’t understand about us improving our assessment of players in addition to changing underperforming managers. We can do both at the same time. It is not an either or issue. For me, I think we need to first decide if we want to sign players to fit into what a coach wants or the designated system the club intends to adopt in the long run. Looking at Cunha and Mbeumo, they do not look like out and out wingers rather inverted forwards, their signings favors the systems Amorim plays but in a 4-3-3, I don't think they'll be that effective (Mbeumo can still do a job though)... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:39pm On Jan 11 |
afrodoc2: [/b]
But that is exactly what you just said. You said people should criticise the player before he is bought rather than criticising him after he has played for us.
It should concern you as a fan if the club replaces an average player with another average player. It should concern you as a fan if the club replaces a mediocre manager with another mediocre manager.
It tells you that we are not going to get better anytime soon. Most of the players we buy are players who did well enough at their previous clubs that made it seem like a reasonable decision. The signing of Cunha and Mbeumo made a whole lot of sense back when they were brought in, a lot of fans felt it was a good decision seeing that we were getting good supporting cast with EPL experience. Cunha is not doing as well as we expected right now but that is down to the benefit of hindsight, you can't start questioning the board when it appeared the reasonable move to make at the time...In fact, it has been a recurring problem for sometime, we sign a good player and he gets here and struggles. As a manager (board), you can't keep changes players especially when we are not getting the cash that comes with playing in the UCL...The only option is to change the manager while sustaining reasonable investment in the team... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:08pm On Jan 11 |
afrodoc2: Where did you get that law from. If a player is trash you have a right to say he is thrash. Whether the previous player was thrash is inconsequential.
Otherwise we can as well say that you can’t say ETH is thrash because you were criticising Ole. Or you can’t say Amorim is thrash because you were criticising ETH. Or you can’t say INEOS is thrash cos you were criticising Woodward.
You assess each situation on its merits. Even the club management who made the mistake and replaced thrash player with thrash player sometimes concede that player 2 is thrash and bin him, why can’t fans do the same when it wasn’t the fans who made the mistake. So, what is the basis for always mentioning players who majority here agreed were not good enough everything a new player has a bad game? I am not saying you should not criticise a new player but making reference to a player that was here previously makes no sense especially when that same player was considered not good enough. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:06pm On Jan 11 |
The club shouldn't have sacked Amorim but you turn around to blame the club for the recent departures engineered by none other than Amorim. You talk about Rashford in comparison to Cunha but forget that Amorim is the person that pushed him out. If the board had backed Rashford, you guys would have complained...
How about Dalot who we all agree is bad but Amorim kept faith with him, should the board have done otherwise? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:59pm On Jan 11 |
Jamiuokolaa: His unceremonious dismissal remains a bitter pill in their mouths and has somewhat resulted in a sickness they might never recover from 
Away from obsession with their failed manager, what are your thoughts on the game today?
Disappointing performance, i must say.
As it is, we just need to manage to grind out results till the end of the season.
Some transfers have not worked out the way we expected At the bolder, this is what we should just accept and move on instead of pointing fingers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:55pm On Jan 11 |
afrodoc2: I did not celebrate Ugarte. I actually warned that he was severely limited.
Apart from that it is ingenuous of you to expect fans to properly assess a player from YouTube highlights or 1-2 games they have seen of a player compared to when the player is playing week in week out for their team.
Having said that, even from the YouTube highlights it was clear to some that Ugarte was thrash but you championed him here. That goes to show you that nobody is infallible. Fans are allowed to change their minds on a player when they get more data on the player. Are you sure you're following the argument? You can't start saying a player is bad now because you have the benefit of hindsight when he was signed to replace a player you said said was bad. You might not have supported his purchase but you supported that of Sancho before and he came in and struggle. My point is not to say that people shouldn't be happy over a new signing but that you should not say a new signing is trash compared to the player he replaced when you were here criticising the ex-player while he was here. An instance here is Hojlund who was heavily criticised when he was here, with majority supporting that he should be moved on. Imagine seeing people saying Sesko is not better than Hojlund as if anyone could have predicted same when Sesko was signed. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:43pm On Jan 11 |
MRTA7: At some point Amorim's fanboys have to accept that he's gone. He won't be coming back. No point referring to him anymore. Time to look forward. As simple as ABC. We should be looking at our options for the interim role instead of reading posts from those sympathetic to Amorim... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:40pm On Jan 11 |
But it was Amorim that saw Dalot and added him to the group of leaders in the team. Amorim didn't waste time to move Hojlund along but he stuck with Dalot.
The fingers you people are pointing in defence of Amorim is still pointing at Amorim... |