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Where's that conspiracy theorist?
City got two penalties today, are they also having their way with the match officials?

I don't know why folks think anybody who's clamoring for Pogba to be pushed further forward for our up coming fixtures (Especially Liverpool and City) is anti-Mata, we lost to city because of Pogba's positional indiscipline and same will likely repeat itself if he features against pool, it's not like Mata isn't appreciated, it's just how football works, there's no way a coach will pick Mata over Pogba in this circumstances (Price tag).
We have only two options against teams like City, Pool and Arsenal, drop pogba for another CM and use Mata as the AM or drop Mata and push Pogba further forward to checkmate his annoying tendency to leave his area of primary assignment.

raumdeuter:
So you read the whole episode and the mistake you can point out is that Gotze came in 88th minute and not 90th minute? Thats all you see as wrong with the argument? No need to talk too much, You are basically disgracing yourself for your lack of proper education. Have you wondered why its fellow reetards like you that had a problem with 88th mins vs 91st min

Applying logic is important in every situation in life, you think logic is optional and that is one of your big problem, Its caused by poor education and to tell you the truth its probably too late in life to correct it

Whatever makes you happy...

raumdeuter:
Thats where your knowledge of logic or lack of comes into play, The discussion what is the main point? what is the crux of it?

So if someone told you "A drank a cup of wine". Your rebuttal would be that there was a 6 drops left so its not a full cup? Is that not dull?

Gotze came in 2 mins to extra time, So the best counter argument that you can come up with is that he didn't come in after 90mins he came in at 88min? Is that not some dull grasping at straws

Low IQ is a female dog

Sometimes, you just own up to your mistake and move on, trying to applying logic in every scenario doesn't make you smart, it only shows you up for the sore loser that you are.

raumdeuter:
My posts require common sense to understand which is why you see that sensible posters don't have a problem with it. The people that have a problem with it are those with subzero IQ

A player that entered in 2 mins to the end is as good as entering in extra time but it's logic I don't expect doofuses to understand

They are the types that depend on goal.com to think for them

There's nothing like as good as in this context, it is either within 90mins of play or extra time and I know for real that 88 mins isn't extra time...

airmark:
Can 88th minute be called an extra time in soccer ?

Airmark : Laughable, It's not. 88th minute is within the regulation time

Rahmanzaki : Yes, 88th minute is an extra time because it's just 2 minutes to the end of the game


Ajakaja40 right now


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You caught him but like his usual self, he wants to twist his way out...88 mins is now extra time, lawd epp us in this section, the lies is becoming too much.

AdisaOwala:
You have made some very Valid points....

However, I would like to point out the following :


Yeah, It's a good idea to play with 3 men in MF against the big teams (away from home). City did it on numerous occasions by Shunting Silva out wide to accommodate the in-form Yaya Toure at the tip of a midfield triumvirate but heck - the Ivorian had made a case for himself with his excellent goals/assists stats from a CMF pivot with Nandinho. Pray tell - what are Pogba's corresponding figures from the same position to warrant that he be picked ahead of a Juan Mata who has excelled in that same role recently?

I haven't exactly been a fan of Mata - i have not liked the fact that the Spaniard tends to be anonymous in matches (despite his impressive stats for us) but let's be honest - the little Fella has dazzled with recent performances reminiscent of his days as Chelsea's Star Player and I believe he deserves an extended run of games in his Favorite Position.

This idea of introducing Match-Rusty Players like Schnederlain & 34 year old Carrick into the Starting 11 for a match that would most likely be of high intensity doesnt really appeal to me - if Pogba was the tactically disciplined type, I doubt if there would have been calls to drop Mata in the 1st place & it even seems that the frenchman is demanding for the AMF role on a permanent basis anyways.

It's up to Mourihno to come up with a tactical set up that would bring the best out of his players - he is getting paid to do so afterall.

Exactly

eph12:
Mata has to give way then. I would have liked him at the right side of our front three but I think Lingard is a better presser

I'd prefer Rashford or Mata ahead of Lingard on the right, Lingard will loss possession every time Liverpool press.

AdisaOwala:
But in all honesty, does the in-form Mata deserve to be dropped for a player who is indirectly telling us that he isn't too keen on doing the job he was bought to do in the 1st place ?

Time will tell sha.

For me, it's a necessity considering we're up against the most attack minded team in the league and we're going away from home. A midfield two consisting of any player with Pogba will be easily by passed considering the fact that Pogba isn't positionally disciplined, so the safest option will be to drop Mata or move him to the RW and push Pogba further forward and pair Herrera with Schneiderlin or Carrick. We'll need to have numbers in the middle to have any chance of getting away with at least a point from Anfield

eph12:
I agree with this. If not we will be seriously over run in the midfield by those lfc guys that like to run and press.

There's no way we will cope with Liverpool parading a two man midfield.

With regards to the Pogba position, I'd suggest Mou drops Mata for the games we have coming up to increase the numbers and our strength in midfield. I'd go for a midfield trio of Carrick/Schneiderlin at the base - Herrera as the RCM/10 and Pogba as the LCM/8 with our wings manned by Martial and Rashford/Miki...
It's the best alternative we have now instead of another case of Player and Manager clash

modath:
Snail forming animal with horn, like you are in the thick of things.

You and Mynd44 are not nice, see how you both descended on him and crashed his ploy to sound in the know...

raumdeuter:
86th minute with 4 minutes to go and the coach was smart he didnt put him in defence, he used him to replace a striker not to replace a defender

So if a defender replaces a striker, he automatically plays the role of a striker in the match? New one here...Airmark, elrony, make una help me see this kind yarn

raumdeuter:
You mean Baba rahman that entered after the game is won in the 86th minute. Scalke benches Baba Rahman and they keep a clean sheet

Was still enough time for Gladbach to hit back but they couldn't cos he did his job...Got nothing on Nastasic and Bentaleb?

Debroslink:
These 3 Ramos, Pique and Boateng.

Other defenders are way below them.

Toby Alderweireld is right up there, dude is very consistent...
For the best over the past two seasons, I'd give it to Godin.

Debroslink:
I'm Awake.

Pique

Neymar


MORE GOALS PLEASE

Yes o! More goals...shey e dey do you for eye like film?

parrotibaba:
Brother Maka why

I just couldn't hold back any longer, the dude is irredeemably silly.

Most Barca fans are hypocrites, bykebyke was posting pictures on Madrid thread for over a month and his fellow comrades saw nothing wrong, y'all consistently have a go at madrid here even when madrid is more successful. It's the reason most folks are cool with the way Airmark trolls you lot. The day Messi retires, e go do una for eye like film...
Earlier, dmcdad claimed Man City will get obliterated by Barca cos City lost today and he tried to cover up his mis yarn by saying his prediction wasn't cos City lost today, now I ask, considering City lost to Tottenham, a club several levels above Celta, still think your MSN will have a filled day taking in cognizance your team's equally shambolic defense and sub-par midfield

Airmark is sharpening his tools for the kill...It's gonna be fun reading from him

Schalke won today, raumdeuter you should at least praise Bentaleb, Nastasic and Baba who entered the fray late on for their performances today.
When the team loses, you lash out at them as the main culprits, for the team to win today, it means they played excellently by your logic.

kokaneprodigy:
Koscielny 2 EPL goals, Pogba 1 EPL goal.

Haters will say Kos scored his second with hand

You have dropped more post here than your self acclaimed team's thread, when are you coming out of your closet?
It's cool you're trying to make fun of the goal Kos scored in hope that it won't be used against Arsenal when next you come here to spew trash about corruption in the game. You're just a poor man's Airmark.

eph12:
Put Alli in Juve he will win trophies if that is how you want to see it. In case you have forgotten, Vermaleen has won couple of leagues and probably champions league.
I just hope you don't interpret this to mean Alli is better or Pogba isn't good because they're both fantastic.

Don't understand you again o! What's your case exactly?

Alderweireld is definitely the best defender in the EPL...
We put up the most promising performance of the season so far but it just wasn't to be, no thanKs to that stoke city GK.
The only positive is watching City drop points today and from what I saw, I think people have been showing them too much respect, go in there, play with intensity and grit and watch how Pep's boys fret like a division 2 team.
All those childish barca fans will not show up here today to defend their lord and saviour

Oasis007:
Why Mata?!
You think Mkhitaryan can play 10 more better than him?!

Yes, he has more to his game, pace, stamina and goals. It a close call sha as Mata isn't that bad

Oasis007:
Mourinho is finally creating his own Team! But as time goes by I expect Martial and Mkhitaryan to replace Rashford and Lingard respectively!

No, I think they'll replace Mata and Lingard.

Nihilist:
Indeed.

I believe that the best managers create tactics around the players they have, and then fine tune it by adding one or two new players at a time- eg Ferguson, Ancelotti and so on.

We've been hearing that we dont have the players for this formation or that formation, but surely there must be a formation that works for these guys.

What's annoying is that despite Conte's defensive approach, we're still leaking goals like no man's business. If we're not going to keep clean sheets anyway, why doesnt setup to outscore opponents instead? We have a very decent attacking force afterall.

That's why I'm not convinced that the players are entirely to blame here. It's not enough to point to success in a league where players from winning eleven era on PS1 are still running around in FIFA 17 on ps4.

Bar Costa and Batsuayi, nothing is decent about your teams attack.
Hazard is alarmingly inconsistent, I'm beginning to think he's no more interested in the project, Pedro is a headless chicken as is willian, all endeavor, no result.

Nihilist:
Did Conte really get the best out of that Italy team?
That's debatable.

What's on record though is that unfancied teams, like Wales and Portugal managed by unfancied managers outshone Italy and Conte by a considerable margin.

Ofcourse the tournament format had a part to play in Portugals victory but I don't know if we can be absolutely certain that Conte got the best out of that Italian squad.

I think he did, he only lost out to the Germans on Penalties, no thanks to Zaza's out of the world failed pk...It's particularly hard for a coach to achieve success with Chelsea cos of the interference that comes from those at the top of the hierarchy ala Abramovich so I'd advise my Chelsea pals to be a tad patient with him.

Greatihex:
even if i should agree with you, what stopped conte from getting the kind of players he wants during the summer transfer window?

The other clubs refused to deal as simple as that and Chelsea weren't willing to force their hands as was the case with Man Utd.

Nihilist:
Good morning Egbon nateevs.

Happy Sunday and Eku Independence.

With all due respect, I feel that your post up there has actually undermined your argument rather than strengthened it.

Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City have largely unchanged squads to last season but the results couldn't be anymore different.

Liverpool that finished in 8th place last season are now mountinh a title charge. City that barely managed to get into 4th place last season are looking nigh on unstoppable now. Arsenal that capitulated their title challenge in such spectacular manner are playing like men on a mission.

Bar one or two players, the overwhelming majority of the players you mentioned were at the same clubs last season.

So what's changed?

Pep went to City and has completely ignored defending and focused on attack. Wenger is now playing Sanchez up front, which has allowed Walcott back into the team with devastating effect.
Klopp's system was already looking like bearing dividends having appeared in two finals last season, and with one or two additions to the squad, has crafted a tsystem so deadly that their best striker can't even make the first 11.

Good players are great to have, but a great system makes average players look great. Compare sterling of last season to this season. Look at what's happening at Spurs. Lamela, Son, Dembele, Sissoko. These are all players that were suffering stagnation in their careers until they met Pochettino.

So yeah we might have some crap players. But I have not seen anything from Conte to suggest that he has the ability to get the best out of these guys.

That's where I'm coming from.

If Conte could get the best out of that Italy team at the Euros, then it is not out of place to be optimistic in Chelsea's case.
I also support the school of thought that he is more of a coach who rather than play, prefers to stop the opponent from playing and for a club like Chelsea, I don't know how much time his past achievements can buy him...

dopeJemi:
Lol, I don talk my own, the goal is not

I am with you, wanted to say it but decided against airing my view because folks will think I'm hating, good goal but not enough to tickle my fancy...

raumdeuter:
I assume you arent blind? You saw where I said Huntelaar has to be dropped didnt you? You can add Sascha Reither the ex Fulham player too to it

Or which hate are you talking about? Bentaleb has played just 4 games and already has 2 errors leading to goals, In at least 2-3 of the Buli games he played he has been the worst player on the field

And Baba Rahman is just too basic as a Full back, He lacks awareness, He is poor going forward as well

Okay...

Lana1:
Ruudie seems Moyes don get competition o

Its now between Bilic and Moyes. Who ll be the first manager to be sacked this season?? My money still on Moyes sha

Are you on a mission to get Ruudie's head turned against United?
As per under performing gaffers, I'd be more disappointed with Bilic considering the quality of players at his disposal. West ham should be doing a lot better.