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To pass jamb is far more difficult than to make rapture yes or no?

Dem never finish dis war for south east?

SonOfWords:
When last did you see Waec conduct exams with paper and pencil? Abi you just want to ask annoying questions .

What are you talking?
Did waec conduct cbt exam last year, do you even know what is cbt?

Just dey carry dey say someone is asking annoying question, you don't even know what the person is asking

When you see these harmless people parading with bible you will think they are Christians not knowing that they are actually angels of darkness disguising as light

waec is not saying whether the the exams are cbt?

Gracefilled01:
You've read Revelations 21 and unbelief is the only sin mentioned there?

So, because other forms of sin order than unbeief were mentioned in Revelation 21, in your mind you concluded that they are significant and powerful enough to erase what Christ did on the cross?

I know your type
Your aim is always to threaten people for their little errors and cajole them to bring money to church so that they will be saved from their sins.
Meanwhile, you are the greatest sinners .

Always looking for scriptures to exploit fellow humans and enrich yourselves where you did not sow.

Nor go find legitimate work do first

Gracefilled01:
You can keep banning me all you want

Why were you banned?
Because you were being unreasonably emotional rather than using your brain„as a result you are dying.

Unbelief is the only sin God recognises.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already....

And commiting sin like lying, stealing, fornication etc are the only sin humans recognizes because they are not spirit like God.

Is that difficult to understand?

Have you ever let go of someone who stole your item to say "God will judge you into hell fire for stealing from me", when you know that you can sue the thief?
Or have you ever tell an unbeiever that he will be sentenced to prison for not believing in Christ?

Stop telling people lies o

[quote author=Gracefilled01 post=138926159][/quote]Why were you banned?
Because you were being unreasonably emotional rather than using your brain„as a result you are dying.

Unbelief is the only sin God recognises.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already....

And commiting sin like lying, stealing, fornication etc are the only sin human recognizes because they are not spirit like God.

Is that difficult to understand?

Gracefilled01:
That's how the Devil is deceiving many of you today

lies!
It is people who judge people by their sins that the devil is deceiving.
Scriptures says whosever name was not found in the book of the Lamb was cast into the lake of fire.
It didn't say whoever commit sin.

. Show me where Jesus taught this. Perhaps you should go read and understand the gospel properly (the teachings by Christ himself).

Jesus says I'm the way..
He didn't say your ability not to commit sin is the way

A man once asked him how he can make eternal life, and his response was keep the commandments.

what about the part that he told him "forsake all your riches and belongs and come follow me, you have omitted it abi?

Keeping only the commandments cannot save anyone!
But whether you can keep the commandments or not, once you follow Christ you are covered.

Was it not a thief that Jesus told at across "Today you will be with me in paradise? "

Jesus' death & resurrection doesn't give you liberty to sin,

very true!
At the same time it does not condemn you for sinning.
What condemns you is the law

his coming was to reconcile you to God, and to show you how to make heaven. You can't know more than Christ himself on why he came to die,

True

and Christ never said his death means God overlooks our sins.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

The deeds of the law is thou shall not steal, thou shall not kill,... etc
And since a man is justified without these things, therefore by common reasoning, these things are overlooked and are ignored completely in the spirit.
You can't use your physical senses to judge what is in the spirit.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

It is the flesh that when you sin, it matters

Anyone that tells you God doesn't look at your sin is a liar, a false preacher.

Anyone that tells you that God looks at your sin as a Christian and judges you from there, is a scammer and deceiver and a false preacher.
As a matter of fact this false teaching with no scriptural base, that a Christian will go to hell fire is what is drawing Christianity backward in Africa and intimidating them for nothing.

In the UK they know better.

Go read the gospel of Christ, Matthew to John, then come back so we have a more proper discussion.

The gospel tells me that whosever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

I have eternal life in me not because I'm good.
That is the grace.

And that doesn't mean i should commit sin, cos anytime i do, i will face the consequence.
The consequence is the law, not me losing my eternal life

But the one that tells you that it is because of your good behavior that you are saved.
That one is not the gospel o.

THESE YOUR PASTORS ARE ALL SCAM O

chrisukeka:
So those in Rivers State are not people?

River state is Christian dominated and they are the church at Rivers state.

Just like in the bible, there was the church in Ephesus, the church in Rome, the church in Anthens, the church in Cyprus, Antioch, Jerusalem, etc.

Christianity is one,
One God, one Christ.
But of different places.

So what stop these pastors from taking their crusade to places where there are no churches and leave places where there are churches?
Are they not scammers like these?

SageTravels:
We know your type. You will support him to enter mosque an preach. Kindly note that preaching of the gospel is not for the pastors alone. Soul Winning is not for the pastors along.

good!

YOU CAN LEAD THE WAY. You can start from a mosque close to you.

And you think i will be that daft?

Let's say the truth and accept it the way it is!
The earth is the Lord's and it fullness there off.
You can't fight God's battle with your physical and financial abilities, allow God to fight his battles he owns everything including Muslims or unbelievers.
If you want unbelievers souls to be one, then show the light by living exemplarily. They will see the light in you and decide for themselves whether to join Christianity or not.
You don't need to preech!

If pastors continue to be doing crusades in Christian communities deceiving fellow Christians they are winning souls, even unbelievers and Muslims will laugh at them and continue to see Christianity as a scam.

Alliswell248:
You are wrong. Bearing an English or christian name does not make you a Christian.

Lies from the pit of hell!

See, we are Christians today because we were born into Christian homes and raised by Christian parents.
That's the salvation

Is it everyone who enter the university that are student? [/quote This your analogy does not correlate with the salvation structure in Christ.

Scriptures says whosever is born of God...
Infact, we were born into God, you can't change it
[quote]Not everyone who goes to church are christian.

except in a situation were you see one Muslim decided to attend church.
But how will you know if a Muslim is there?

At times, it is always good to be quiet.

please study your bible to show yourself approve and speak out.

I understand that when one is ignorant he cannot talk against injustice.
But when you know, you will speak out anytime you see injustice.

These pastors are scam

ufotunang:
..you said whether one commit sins or not God does not justify the person..but the bible says in 1 John 3:8...who ever commits sin is of the devil...

And another scripture says whosever is born of God does not commit sin.

Meaning, God nor dey look him sin.

So whoever commit sin na person were nor believe in Christ.
That person is of the devil, not a believer .

And also note that no man is without sin 1 John 1:8.

But na only believers God nor dey look their sin because of Christ.

So you see now that these pastors are scam

SageTravels:
If he goes to the North as you said, you will still have another excuse.

no!
Infact, i will praise him.
You saw what Paul did in the bible? He entered the synagogue of the Jews to preach Christianity.
If this man fit enter mosque preach Christianity i am solidly behind him

You are very wrong to say that "To win souls mean to convert people of other religions into Christianity." There is no where it is written in the Bible.

na im be say you nor dey read bible now.

Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Isreal practice Judaism that's why they are not saved.
They will only be saved when they abandon their old covenant to join the new covenant.

So salvation is simply change of faith.

Another scripture put it, the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith

Winning souls” is a concept that comes from the Bible (for example, Proverbs 11:30), and it generally means helping people come into a relationship with God through Christianity.

so why is the pastor keep chasing Christians who were already saved and not non Christians who need the salvation?

Is he not a scam like that?

You are very wrong to say this

no, I am 100% right.
The pastor is wrong for pursuing believers

There is no where in the bible that shows that Christians were converting fellow Christians into Christianity

See what the Bible is saying concerning Soul Winning

(Matthew 9:37–38)
“The harvest truly is plentiful, but the labourers are few;
therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out labourers into His harvest.”

James 5:20:
Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death.

Proverbs 11:30 — “He that winneth souls is wise.”

There is no where in the Bible that says the soul to be won must be people from other religions

nothing in these scriptures shows that Christians should convert Christians.

The pastor is a scam

ufotunang:
.. christian communities already believers ..but they are still many that commit sins.. there are sinners in Christian communities. .not all are born again..so they need the word of God inorder to repent

You see, this is why the pastor will continue to be confused inspite his money.

Who tell you say na whether person dey commit sin or not God take dey justify people?

Bible tell us say without Faith it is impossible to please God.

So whether you born again or you nor born again, e nor concern God.
Wetin God want na, just believe in him, that's all

Abraham was justified because he believed God, not because he was a good man

You see how all these pastors are thieves?

chipet67:
I mean.. whether you dey te beer, make you join us for table. For that beautiful pont you make.

chipet67:
Do you take beer?

Explain yourself

saintkel:
very wrong bro...even in Christian communities, souls need to be won

That means, you don't understand what it means to win souls.

To win souls mean to convert people of other religions into Christianity.
There is no where in the bible that shows that Christians were converting fellow Christians into Christianity

Communities in southern Nigeria like port Harcourt are Christian dominated, what exactly is he looking for?

Fame?

Alwaysphallus:
Assuming the essence of the crusade was to win souls.

it is always to win souls, that's what they will tell you

All these, for absolutely nothing!
Because at the end, na only Christians go attend the crusade. Meaning, no soul is won!

If you truly mean to win souls, go sokoto and kano go organise crusade. There are millions of unbelievers waiting there.

Leave Christian communities alone, they are already believers

Everyone were raised into whatever religion practiced by the family and society they were born into, and whatever religion they see themselves practice, is what they are

In the real sense, there is no such thing as rapture.
The second coming happens when anyone dies.
It appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.
If you are judged and your name is not in the book of the Lamb, then your death is eternal which is the second death.
If you name is in the book of the Lamb then you will be resurrected back to life immediately to live again.

Resurrection is real
The second coming is real
But rapture is fake and is not scriptural

Emancipate the mind

Yes

paxonel:
If you are asked, why do you go to church, join chior or being an usher?

what will you say ?

Yes!
They don't know why they do these things that's why immortalcrown has not responded

The truth is, anything you do, and you don't know why, then it amount to bondage

immortalcrown:
Some of your points are fallacious.

1.
Is joining the choir or becoming an usher against freedom?

2.
Who do you know that ever joined choir or became an usher without knowing what he or she was to do in the choir or as an usher?

Going to church regularly or once in a while is not automatically against freedom. Going to church regularly can be a manifestation of freedom and going to church irregularly can be a manifestation of captivity.

If you are asked, why do you go to church, join chior or being an usher?

what will you say ?

immortalcrown:
Some of your points are fallacious. Is joining the choir or becoming an usher ungodly?

I didn't use the word ungodly

Going to church regularly or once in a while is not automatically ungodly. Going to church regularly can be godly and going to church irregularly can be ungodly.

once again! I didn't use the word ungodly.
Rather, I use the term absolute freedom.

As much as it is godly to be devoted to a church, your freedom should be your number 1 priority.

Any church that want to subject you into perpetual bondage, you have the right to say no.
Think about it

Absolute freedom is the kind of religious beliefs that allows you practice your religion in the heart rather than practicing it to please people or to get validation from people.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The concept of the spirit is simply your believe in God which is done in the heart and not in activities for men to see.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

How do you practice Christianity to please people?
1. By going to church regularly for men to see
2. By praying long and noisy prayers so that people will hear you or see you as religious : note that being religious does not translate to being a good person. Neither can it give you salvation.
3. By involving in religious activities like joining choir, being an usher, being an elder or associate pastor without prior understanding as to why you are doing those things. At the end, you are being exploited by the church founder who continues to be enriched by your activities in church, while you go home poorer and empty.

1 Samuel 8:11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.....

Humans will always be humans, they will exploit you while you smiling and suffering.

But at the other way round, if you worship your God in spirit and in truth by believing in your heart without involving anybody, and let your pastors worship their God in spirit and in truth the same manner, without you going to them. Then the issue of exploitation will be out of it, and you will practice your religion in absolute freedom.

Not accepting blood transfusion is part of their religious rituals inwhich many have died for free

damosky12:
You're quoting out of context. Read the conversation with the woman at the well. This has nothing to do with what you're saying here.

oya prove it

Christianity is in people.

fact

People meet in places.

but certainly, not for worship.
Perhaps to encourage and teach one another.

But where someone already knows what he should know, then he doesn't need the meeting anymore.
Because the meeting does not translate to worshiping in spirit.

That's why Jesus said to her .....ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
The temple at Jerusalem was where the Jews meet.
The mountain was where the Samaritan woman and all gentiles meet.

Acts 2 happened in the temple. Where else would accomodate 3000 people. Acts 3 too.

This is not worship!
Anyone of them can decide not to attend especially when the person is self sufficient and knows what is expected of him or her as a Christian and practice the lifestyle .

WORSHIPPING IN SPIRIT IS EMBEDDED IN THE BELIEVER, IT IS NOT HIM GOING TO PLACES

Acts 19 happened in a building called the "school of one tyranus."

it does not translate to worshiping in spirit

If you care about the scriptures truly and not just bad belle for the man, let's reason it out of scriptures. ✌️

The man has not achieved anything to be bad Belle of

Just like any other human who is huzzling their money

Odidigboigbo:
What hour was jesus referring to?

the hour of his crucifixion and resurrection that happened more than 2000 years ago

How did you know the hour had come?

because he has died and resurrected

Yes