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Obviously, going into marriage without financial security is also cheating

She cheated first by depending on the man for everything she need

And a bible student who thinks very fast will simply ask, are Romans8:8-10 and 2 Corinthians 5-17 serves as conditions for a Christian who wishes to change church from one denomination to another?

When does the bible become a tool to encourage division in the body of Christ?
Why are these pastors so desperate to make money by all means from church members?

This is the extent to which most pastors in Nigeria are desperate.
They can go to any length to turn scriptures upside down in order to lamba you, and if you are not careful, you will fall for their trick

Holy2Glory:
I wish I can help you my friend. You really have a very long way to go. Honestly I don't feel like typing some lengthy sermon right now. I have got much to do. Sorry I can't help you right now.

remember, I didn't call for you. You were the one that quoted me first. That means, you are the one who needs help here.
Don't even try to Twist it

You are terribly confused

However just know this one ultimate truth and know peace. The fact that people are in church does not mean they are saved

Lies!
And i put it you that you do not possess any spiritual power to determine who and who is saved in church.
How can you possibly tell?

. If they eventually leave the church to join another church on a new ground as stipulated in Romans 8:8-10, and 2Corinthians 5:17, then they can answer an altar call.

Non of these scriptures you mentioned said anything about a Christian leave one church denomination for another.

You see the level of your confusion?

You develope a doctrine out of the blues

If also they choose to remain in the old church and the condition of Romans 10:8-10 and 2Corinthians 5:17 are satisfied they can still answer an altar call there.

Romans 10:8 and 2Corinthians 5:17 isn't conditions required for a Christian to leave one church for another.

What troubleth thee in all these things?

if you don't have anything reasonable to say, please don't quote me again

Mama!
Take am easy na, which one be idol again for inside computer?

Blue86:
Some have the erroneous notion that once you are saved, you are eternally secured no matter what you do.
And that those who left the faith were those who were not really saved.

How is this erroneous?
Those who were once in the Faith were saved at the time they were in the Faith. But the moment they left the Faith they lost their salvation.
Is this difficult to understand?

But that is not what the Apostles taught, and it can never be what the Lord Himself taught.

just say you didn't understand what the apostles thought

Let’s go to 2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

Let’s analyse that statement in the mirror of your good a conscience and not in the view of a supposed elevated and known MOG.

FOR IF AFTER THEY HAVE ESCAPED THE POLLUTIONS OF THE WORLD THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST
It is written in Isaiah 53:11, Through his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
So the saved are those who have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of that righteous servant - Christ Jesus, given for iniquities.


THEY ARE AGAIN ENTANGLED THEREIN, AND OVERCOME
They ( the saved, the justified, the forgiven, the purged from sins ) are again gone back to the filth that the Lord cleansed them from; the filth the Lord forgave them of.
They are there living the life of the world with such bravado and gusto, the life they once thanked God for saving them from.
Don’t misunderstand me, If you sin, and you acknowledge your wrong to repent, you will be forgiven and cleansed. But if you continue to sin and live that life of filth, thinking all you needed to do to be saved is just to believe in Jesus, and go about and live the way you lived before you met Him; you are in condemnation.

THE LATTER END IS WORSE WITH THEM THAN THE BEGINNING
The end of those people if they do not repent, though in Christ Jesus, will be worse than those who were never saved in the first place.

your analysis are wrong and are the reasons why African Christians are backward.
The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with living the life of sin.
It says if you once accept the gospel of Christ and later reject that gospel, then you have lost your salvation and it will be difficult for you to come back to Christ.

It didn't say if you sin, then you have lost your salvation.

By the way, who does not commit sin in this life?

Apostle Peter still is reiterating what the Lord said in Matthew, that many would say they followed Him, acknowledging Him as Lord, and even did feat in His name.
But He would tell them, I never knew you, depart from me; for you were never saved.
No.
Depart from me, you workers of iniquity.

2 PETER 2:21

so you see, it has nothing to do with sin. Rather, lost of salvation is lost of Faith in Christ.

So once saved is forever saved!
Except on the condition that the person lost his faith in Christ.

John 3:16 ...whosever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

So your salvation is eternal, Forever.
No end

Holy2Glory:
What do you mean by we love deceiving people? In the first place you need to be gullible for you to be deceived. Are you then telling the world of your gullibility or something? what then will you call the ones that shouts Alla-harbar holding swords and AK47?

When you read your bible, does it not occur to you that we are saved by our religion?

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Just like Abraham had covenant with God, today Christians have covenant with God and that covenant is their religion or faith which is the same Christianity.

If this so, Where hence is altar calling in the same church of the same religion started?
Giving the impression that you are saving people, but meanwhile most of these people were one time members of other churches before they started attending your church.
That means they were already saved a long time ago

It's like someone is in class 4,and you are now inducting the person into the same class 4 again without the person knowing. Is that not deception?

people who willingly come out of their own consent to surrender their lives to Jesus,

for them to come out of their own, it shows that they are ignorant of this fact.
So it is your duty as their pastor to educate them

Holy2Glory:
You have no accurate knowledge, for you do greatly err, knowing not the power of God. It is as well written, forsake not the gathering of yourselves together as ye see the time approaching. It added that again that iron sharpeneth iron. It also continued as it says: if a man has a hundred sheep and lost one , will he say because I have 99 with me left I shall leave the one? No ofcourse he will abandon the 99 and still go looking for the one. The one soul in the south that is not saved is not less that the thousands I the north that are unsaved. Even if we were all believers in the south like you assumed, we will still be looking out for that just one sheep that was lost or may loss. We will still be sharpening one another as we see the day coming; that's the scriptures. We will still not forsake the gathering of the brethren. Know this and find peace with gospel preachers.

Sharpening one another means to encourage one another in the faith.
It is not the same thing as soul winning.

You people call altar calls in church saying that you are winning souls. Why do you like deceiving people?

The last time i attended one rccg parish was in 2017. I simply walked out of the church in 15 minutes.
It was disgusting

Omo, these guys are shaming Africa o

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ikorodureporta:
I see the gospel as a way of life. Christ taught many positive things.
Before Christ were many on this earth.
He was after the people going astray...

For me, being a Christian is not all that matters.
What matters most is having that positive attitude Christ tried projecting....

That's why I cannot see someone and start preaching on the basis of converting the person to Christianity.... doesn't make sense to me.

Your common sense is working very fine!

Live the life let them see.
If they are convinced by what they see, nobody will tell them to convert.
They will do it on their own quietly.

Thousands of Muslims and African traditionalists have been converted into Christianity on their own without the so called Christian influencers or pastors.
It's a free world

sonmvayina:
my question is why is Jesus not mentioned in academic history books.....

why??

Because academic history books are not religious books..
Jesus was a prophet and founder of a religion.

Do people go to school to study religion?
We know schools are meant to study history, not religion.

If you want to know more are Jesus, Muhammed, God, African juju, etc, please go their appropriate religious centres

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This pastor talks a lot of lies without quoting one scripture in support of his lies!
How does he know that demonic activities are after people's destinies?
What scripture does he has, in support of these lies?

Please, when people are poor because they don't know how to make money, it does not mean that demonic activities are after their destinies.
Some people may not even have the opportunities that others have.

Many moi moi pastors everywhere

gloriousinvite:
When we die, we will resurrect?

John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
So, I'm asking you the same question, do you believe that we never die?

I know that Jesus told us in John 14:1-3, "... I will come again and receive you unto Myself that wherever I am, there ye may be also.".

1. he told his disciples at that time, not us
2. His disciples at that time he was talking to them, where never in God's kingdom, but we are in God's kingdom today. So we can't possibly be the same as the disciples who listened to Jesus at that time
3. We are far greater than them. They are in John the Baptist era. The least believer in our era is far greater than John the Baptist and every disciple at the time Jesus was yet to be crucified.
4. The crucifixion and resurrection marked a transition from the old covenant to the new covenant. All the prophets prior to this time, did not see God's kingdom. But we are in the kingdom.
5. In this kingdom, there is no death. Just as Christ resurrected, that is how we resurrect anytime we die.
6. Death is not death in the real sense, death has been defeated.

I stand on the clear promise of Jesus Christ to all who believe in Him.

Do you believe that this promise has been fulfilled 2000 years ago. If you know this truth you are free

Humanity has waiting for 2000yrs already for the promise to be realized.

no,this is a lie from the devil!
A scripture said for the ernest expectation of the creature awaited the manifestation of the sons of God.
You are the sons of God that was created at the resurrection of Christ 2000 years ago.
You know that power that was given to Adam when God created man, you have that power now.

You are the most invincible thing that can ever happen to this world and the whole creation.

. hold on a little longer, your redemption draws near.

If there is anything like redemption, you are the redemption.
You don't need any jupiter to come redeem you.
Redeem you from what?

gloriousinvite:
John in Revelation 21:2 was in a vision. Read verse 4 which says "and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

The last time I checked there's still pain in our world today.

check the emboldened above, the scripture is talking about pain and tears caused by the death of a loved one, not pains in the world today.
If I have a loved one who has died and i believed that he has resurrected and he is alive today, why then should i be in pain and tears?

We are very fortunate, we don't have t wait too long, Jesus Christ second coming is very soon, I mean very very soon.

there is nothing like second coming.
We have been saying this since 2000 years ago
How soon is 2000 years?

Please let's be realistic,
The bible says when we die, we will resurrect. This is the second coming

Yo

Yea

RealityKings1:
This is 100% true.

God for all man, all man for hinself

This truth go shock my Christians in Nigeria..

Many of them will not like me

RealityKings1:
God may not not come down from his realm of existence to help you, he will send a man, a bird, a plant or even the wind. Or even water.

he does this to everyone including thieves, fornicators and even unbelievers too.

So what's the essence of being a Christian and go to church?

Isaiah 41:13, "For I, the Lord your God, will hold your right hand, saying to you, 'Fear not, I will help you

Isaiah did not mention our names here.
This promise was for the Israelites of that time, it doesn't apply today

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Christians o!
Especially those of you who are regular in church, ask yourself this simple question with sincerity.
Was there any time you met God one on one and he promised to solve your personal problem if you are committed to church, or is it that, the idea that God will help you, came from your pastor?

If God had helped Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the Isrealites to cross the red sea..
If God had helped Isaiah, Daniel Meshack and Abednego.
If God had helped David,Jonah, Job, and had healed the sick and provided food for 5000 people with five bread and two fishes ..
It does not mean that God will help you.

You aren't those people God helped in those era stated in bible days, are you?
Or was your name ever mentioned in the bible such that, pastors will now quote bible to deceive you that because God helped Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, therefore he will help you?

Is there any such thing?

So, stop giving yourself unnecessary hope that God will help you one day. God did not promise you help.
He owe you nothing

You have the responsibility to take charge of your situation yourself alone, and leave pastors alone.
They are all impostors.

How do i know?
Because i have read the bible and know the truth for myself.
You can do the same and be free

masonry:
II. Freemasonry is not a religion:

really?

Benefits:
1. High spiritual knowledge

but i thought you said it is not a religion?
What is spiritual knowledge doing there?

gloriousinvite:
Christ’s Appearance at His Second Coming

We look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. -Philippians 3:20, 21.

Christ had ascended to heaven in the form of humanity. The disciples had beheld the cloud receive Him. The same Jesus who had walked and talked and prayed with them; who had broken bread with them; who had been with them in their boats on the lake; and who had that very day toiled with them up the ascent of Olivet— the same Jesus had now gone to share His Father’s throne. And the angels had assured them that the very One whom they had seen go up into heaven, would come again even as He had ascended.

The glory of Christ’s humanity did not appear when He was upon the earth.... That same humanity now appears as He descends from heaven, robed in glory, triumphant, exalted.

Christ will come in His own glory, in the glory of His Father, and in the glory of the holy angels. Ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands of angels, the beautiful, triumphant sons of God, possessing surpassing loveliness and glory, will escort Him on His way. In the place of a crown of thorns, He will wear a crown of glory—a crown within a crown. In the place of that old purple robe, He will be clothed in a garment of whitest white, “so as no fuller on earth can white” (Mark 9:3) it. And on His vesture and on His thigh a name will be written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19:16

All heaven will be emptied of the angels, while the waiting saints will be looking for Him and gazing into heaven, as were the men of Galilee when He ascended from the Mount of Olivet. Then only those who are holy, those who have followed fully the meek Pattern, will with rapturous joy exclaim as they behold Him, “Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us.” And they will be changed “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump”—that trump which wakes the sleeping saints, and calls them forth from their dusty beds, clothed with glorious immortality, and shouting, “Victory! Victory over death and the grave!”

it is deception to sound as though these things are going to happen, but meanwhile they have been happening on this earth ever since Christ resurrected approximately 2000 years ago.

The Glory of God is here with us and his kingdom on this earth is forever, no end to it.

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

So the kingdom of God is not in heaven.
It has been brought down to earth and it is among men.

Prayer:...
Help us Lord to be among the saved...

what kind of deceptive prayer is this?

You are already among the saved, you don't know

Keep the experience to yourself sir!
It will never improve the economy and the life of the average young man who is looking for better things like a good job wealth and happiness.

wetin i won use ghost do for dis life, for Godsake?

This one na confirm yahoo pastor

Don't listen to lies that says blood money exist. Hustle for your money legitimately

HacheNoire:
What about those of Apostle Johnson Suleman

Someone entered toilet in Germany and appeared in France 🤣😂🤣

And the other baba said he drank tea with God.

Gullible me don open eye. So I won put fuel for laptop since i nor get charger

This JSPNSC or wetin una call una selves, una nor well.

Midnight strike from Friday night come resume work on Monday morning, is that one strike or is it Nigerians you people are deceiving